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Title: Looking forward on rail fares
Post by: grahame on June 18, 2020, 05:38:13
Behind a paywall in The Independent (https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/long-reads/rail-fairs-uk-train-travel-cars-cost-commuting-season-ticket-a9556781.html)

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We need to talk about rail fares ... and this is a good time to bury bad news

They say you should never waste a crisis, so let’s not waste this one. As Simon Calder anticipates a hike in ticket prices, he says there has never been a better time to restructure the system and encourage more people onto trains

If a train is carrying only 70% of the passengers it used to, income will be the same if each pays an average of 43% more than they used to ...


Title: Re: Looking forward on rail fares
Post by: TaplowGreen on June 18, 2020, 08:38:24
Behind a paywall in The Independent (https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/long-reads/rail-fairs-uk-train-travel-cars-cost-commuting-season-ticket-a9556781.html)

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We need to talk about rail fares ... and this is a good time to bury bad news

They say you should never waste a crisis, so let’s not waste this one. As Simon Calder anticipates a hike in ticket prices, he says there has never been a better time to restructure the system and encourage more people onto trains

If a train is carrying only 70% of the passengers it used to, income will be the same if each pays an average of 43% more than they used to ...

Roads are going to get a lot busier................


Title: Re: Looking forward on rail fares
Post by: eightf48544 on June 18, 2020, 09:05:14

Roads are going to get a lot busier................

Which is why many people turned to public transport before the crisis, will it happen again?

If not why are we building HS2?


Title: Re: Looking forward on rail fares
Post by: TaplowGreen on June 18, 2020, 10:20:52

Roads are going to get a lot busier................

Which is why many people turned to public transport before the crisis, will it happen again?

If not why are we building HS2?

Will it happen again? Who knows - but the demand for the "bread and butter" commuter rail travel, particularly in London and the South East, is very unlikely to return to its original level as people & employers embrace the different ways of working long term which have been enforced in the short term. A price hike will make it even more unlikely.

As for HS2, that's always been a very good question, and one which I am sure is being asked again in the corridors of power in this context, especially given the likely reduced demand/income from HS2, completely out of control cost of the project and the financial and other consequences to the nation of the pandemic.



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