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Title: Night Riviera
Post by: Jamsdad on June 26, 2020, 12:17:35 pm
I see from the FGW website that the Night Rivera is starting to run again, albeit initially only with seated accommodation. I believe the plan is to gradually reintroduce  the sleeper accommodation once staff training is complete.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: Sleepy on March 30, 2021, 04:19:18 pm
Is the number of sleeping cars returning to normal in April or are GWR going to wait until May 17th ?


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: TaplowGreen on April 22, 2021, 06:46:04 am
Absolutely shocking performance;

23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 08:00

21/04/21 23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 08:00 has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 1 minute late.
This is due to congestion.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: rower40 on April 22, 2021, 03:24:22 pm
Absolutely shocking performance;

23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 08:00

21/04/21 23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 08:00 has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 1 minute late.
This is due to congestion.
Computers, don'ch'a just luv'em?
The train was 1 min late at Royal Oak Junction (pass 2347hrs), and 1 min late at Lostwithiel (dep 0641); therefore these facts must have the same cause.  Let's ignore the fact that the train was 11 mins early into Plymouth...


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: Sleepy on April 25, 2021, 01:14:47 pm
So the Sleeper will have full formation again from 17th May. Of course the booking system hasn't been updated so it thinks trains are full on busy nights ! Try booking any accommodation May half term - virtually nothing left. Thought the railway needs every penny it can get ?


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: Sleepy on May 01, 2021, 11:01:55 am
 :) Update : Sleeper coach G  has now been opened for reservations so if any fully booked nights you need get in there quick !


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: Sleepy on May 19, 2021, 12:09:12 am
Sleeper lounges facilities at Penzance, Truro and Paddington are available to use again.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: Jamsdad on May 19, 2021, 04:50:44 pm
I travelled PAD- PNZ last week, and was most impressed with the  staff service, cleanliness and all precautions.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: Timmer on May 19, 2021, 10:32:51 pm
Sleeper lounges facilities at Penzance, Truro and Paddington are available to use again.
Is the First Class lounge at Paddington open again?


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: Sleepy on May 25, 2021, 11:45:45 am
Sleeper lounges facilities at Penzance, Truro and Paddington are available to use again.
Is the First Class lounge at Paddington open again?

It is open


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: grahame on June 01, 2021, 12:35:46 am
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21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:03
21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:03 will be terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at London Paddington.
This is due to a shortage of trains because of extra safety inspections.

? Class 57 issue / extra checks ?


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: broadgage on June 01, 2021, 03:47:57 am
Closure by stealth ?
A connecting service via Reading is a good DISincentive to use.
Presumably passengers are expected to disembark promptly on arrival at Reading ? rather than remain in bed until a sensible hour at Paddington.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: broadgage on June 01, 2021, 03:53:47 am
Now terminating at Swindon, even better than Reading.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: grahame on June 01, 2021, 06:16:25 am
Now terminating at Swindon, even better than Reading.


Arrived in Swindon at 03:18 versus a schedule of 02:58.  Left at 05:38 for Reading, currently passing Goring and Streatley. Passengers will have gone forward on the 05:28 to Paddington which is passing Hayes and Harlington as I write.
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This service was cancelled between Swindon and London Paddington due to a problem with the traction equipment (MC).


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: eightonedee on June 01, 2021, 01:53:38 pm
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Now terminating at Swindon, even better than Reading.

As anyone who has been totally stranded by a train failure would agree, surely having the ability to provided a back up from either Reading or Swindon, and having an operator sufficiently awake at that time, is a good thing providing it does not happen too often?


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: broadgage on June 01, 2021, 02:50:28 pm
A connecting service is better than nothing, but being turfed out of bed at about 03-00 at Swindon, Reading, or anywhere else is a VERY poor substitute for sleeping on the sleeper until Paddington.

It cant be that hard to obtain a handful of locomotives able to make the leisurely journey between Paddington and Penzance reliably.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: IndustryInsider on June 01, 2021, 05:55:43 pm
It cant be that hard to obtain a handful of locomotives able to make the leisurely journey between Paddington and Penzance reliably.

When was the last time there was an issue with the sleeper?  Has reliability been poor recently?


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: TaplowGreen on June 21, 2021, 06:46:53 am
Nice lie-in this morning.............

21:15 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:03
21:15 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:03 has been delayed at Penzance and is now 135 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: grahame on June 21, 2021, 07:42:18 am
Nice lie-in this morning.............

21:15 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:03
21:15 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:03 has been delayed at Penzance and is now 135 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.


Service arrived 15 minutes EARLY into Paddington - at 04:48, from a 23:30 start.     Biggest issue for passenger would be the late pick up - for example a planned 23:20 departure from Plymouth turned into having to wait around until quarter pass one in the morning.   Looking at the timing, did it really run loco and coaches from Plymouth to Paddington via Bristol and Chippenham in three and a half hours?  I think I get the whiff of IET.

Edit to add

30 minutes start to stop, Bristol Temple Meads to Swindon, 41 miles. Average speed 82 miles per hour.  For a train "Pathed as Diesel locomotive, trailing load 350 tonnes. Planned for 75mph max". 91 mph average start to stop, Exeter St David's to Bristol Temple Meads too.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: phile on June 21, 2021, 10:14:52 am
Nice lie-in this morning.............

21:15 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:03
21:15 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:03 has been delayed at Penzance and is now 135 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train.


Service arrived 15 minutes EARLY into Paddington - at 04:48, from a 23:30 start.     Biggest issue for passenger would be the late pick up - for example a planned 23:20 departure from Plymouth turned into having to wait around until quarter pass one in the morning.   Looking at the timing, did it really run loco and coaches from Plymouth to Paddington via Bristol and Chippenham in three and a half hours?  I think I get the whiff of IET.

Edit to add

30 minutes start to stop, Bristol Temple Meads to Swindon, 41 miles. Average speed 82 miles per hour.  For a train "Pathed as Diesel locomotive, trailing load 350 tonnes. Planned for 75mph max". 91 mph average start to stop, Exeter St David's to Bristol Temple Meads too.

It was an IET


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: bobm on June 21, 2021, 03:14:07 pm
I saw both sets of sleeper coaches in Long Rock when I arrived in Penzance earlier.

One set due to move to London this afternoon.

 https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:36786/2021-06-21/detailed (https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:36786/2021-06-21/detailed)


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: Jamsdad on June 24, 2021, 01:29:16 pm
Just had my second trip on the sleeper this year PAD-PNZ and can report things are getting back towards normal. The Lounge is open at Paddington ( and at Truro and Penzance I believe), and passenger numbers are certainly up on my earlier trip in May when take up seemed low. Best of all the bacon rolls are back ! Given that the Scillonian appears to be getting good trade, I expect the sleeper will be feeding that as well.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: bobm on June 24, 2021, 05:55:13 pm
Can vouch for the Scillonian - was on it yesterday for a day trip and it was certainly well patronised. 


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: Sleepy on June 25, 2021, 09:24:44 am
I was on the Sunday night service from Paddington, every berth was booked. Pleased to find Solo cabins have top bunk folded away unlike Caledonian have started to do ! Yes bacon rolls back, breakfast delivered in all disposable containers. Penzance sleeper lounge open but no idea if showers available.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: Jamsdad on June 25, 2021, 04:04:56 pm
Yes the Penzance showers are available, bookings done by the on-board crew at Paddington.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: Sleepy on June 25, 2021, 04:21:23 pm
Yes the Penzance showers are available, bookings done by the on-board crew at Paddington.

We were not asked on check in and given Covid restricting  numbers allowed in lounge  didn't enquire.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: TaplowGreen on June 29, 2021, 10:09:47 pm
21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:07

21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:07 will be terminated at Reading.

It will no longer call at London Paddington.
This is due to a fault on this train.

.....a rude awakening in store....


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: broadgage on June 30, 2021, 04:30:56 am
Down sleeper a connecting service via Reading last night/this morning.
Better than nothing, but changing at Reading is a significant disincentive if compared to taking refreshment in the lounge at Paddington, and then going to bed before departure.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: grahame on June 30, 2021, 05:26:58 am
Down sleeper a connecting service via Reading last night/this morning.
Better than nothing, but changing at Reading is a significant disincentive if compared to taking refreshment in the lounge at Paddington, and then going to bed before departure.


Looks like it ran out at Didcot. Due 03:38, actually arrived 04:17, still at platform as I write this according to Open Train Times.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: TaplowGreen on June 30, 2021, 07:18:30 am
Down sleeper a connecting service via Reading last night/this morning.
Better than nothing, but changing at Reading is a significant disincentive if compared to taking refreshment in the lounge at Paddington, and then going to bed before departure.

Not necessarily.

Get an earlier train to Reading, nip into the Greyfriar (couple of minutes from the station), enjoy the far superior refreshment, then stroll/stagger back to the station to pick up the train! No problem sleeping then!  :)


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: bobm on June 30, 2021, 07:41:41 am
Issue was the third loco which is used to haul the empty stock to London. It then normally returns to Reading on the down service before being detached. It is then coupled to the up service when it arrives before hauling that train back to Reading depot from Paddington.

Terminating the up service at Didcot meant it could run into the depot from the west with no reversal.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: TaplowGreen on June 30, 2021, 10:40:29 pm
Down/Up sleeper starting/terminating at Reading again tonight.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: Sleepy on June 30, 2021, 11:23:37 pm
Why Didcot last night but Reading on the Up service tonight ??


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: phile on July 01, 2021, 10:48:24 am
Why Didcot last night but Reading on the Up service tonight ??
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ROGs 57310 has been sent to help out but probably only able to run on and off Reading Depot.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: TaplowGreen on September 14, 2021, 07:00:49 am
A very late (and short) arrival this morning;

21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:07

13/09/21 21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:07 will be diverted between Taunton and Reading and terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at London Paddington.

It has been previously delayed, has been further delayed at Taunton and is now 188 minutes late.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: Jamsdad on September 14, 2021, 10:50:58 am
I suspect most sleeper passengers will be glad of the longer lie-in! I certainly would.


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: PhilWakely on September 14, 2021, 11:36:17 am
I suspect most sleeper passengers will be glad of the longer lie-in! I certainly would.

A longer lie-in, maybe, but chucked out at Reading at 06:39!


Title: Re: Night Riviera
Post by: TaplowGreen on September 14, 2021, 11:41:45 am
I suspect most sleeper passengers will be glad of the longer lie-in! I certainly would.

A longer lie-in, maybe, but chucked out at Reading at 06:39!

Indeed. Not the ideal preparation for a day's work in London, which is probably why most passengers would have been on the sleeper.



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