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Title: Quarantine Challenge
Post by: Lee on August 24, 2020, 17:32:39
From Fullfact: (https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-quarantine-guidance/)

Quote from: Fullfact
You’re allowed to leave England if you’re self-isolating for 14 days following a trip abroad

A number of readers have asked us about the rules around quarantine when you return from a foreign country. At the moment you have to quarantine yourself on arrival in England for 14 days if you return from any country outside the UK and Ireland not on the exempt list. We’ve written about the rules around this before and if you want to know more specifically about how to quarantine, where to find help and what to do if you develop symptoms then start here.

Lately our readers have been asking us one very specific question. If you return to England from a country and have to self-quarantine for 14 days after, can you travel again to a second country during that quarantine period?

You can.

We spoke to the Department for Health and Social Care and it told us that it was possible to travel to another country during your 14 days of self-isolation, provided that you travel there  “directly”.  

It also told us that the rules on how long you had to quarantine for when you returned vary depending on your second destination. This is based on whether the country is on the list of places exempt from quarantine restrictions.

It told us: “If while self-isolating you were to go to another country that is exempt then when you return to England you do not need to re-start your self-isolation and only need to self-isolate for the period remaining since you were last in a non-exempt country.”

“If you go to another country during your period of self-isolation that is not exempt, however, then when you return to England you will have to self-isolate for 14 days, i.e. re-start your period of self-isolation, in accordance with the regulations.”

So, for example, if you’ve been to Spain (a country that, at the time of writing, is not on the exempt countries list) you have to quarantine for 14 days upon your return to England. But you could still travel to another country during those 14 days, as long as you went there directly. 

If you went to (say) Germany for two days after spending five days in quarantine, you would only need to spend another seven days in quarantine on your return from Germany because at the moment Germany is on the exempt list. However, if you went to the Netherlands for the same time, you would need to start a new 14 days of quarantine on your return, as the Netherlands is not currently exempt. (These examples are correct at the time of writing on August 19, but may well change in the future as countries are added to and removed from the exempt list.)

And it doesn’t matter if you take a test at some point in that 14 days and it comes out negative. You must continue to self-isolate for the full 14 days.

I have a friend who is relying on the above advice to drive himself and his father from his home in Brittany to the Channel Tunnel, go through it to the UK side, drop his father off there, and then come back through the tunnel, returning to his home in Brittany without needing to quarantine on the UK side.

The question is - Is he right to rely on that interpretation?


Title: Re: Quarantine Challenge
Post by: PhilWakely on August 24, 2020, 18:45:14
If that is the rule, then I see absolutely no reason why not.

But, then again, our rules seem to be made up on the fly, so who knows how they will be interpreted! Being pedantic, though, the rules state that you should self-isolate 'in your own home' and as his is in Brittany - enough said!

Seriously though, this makes an absolute mockery of the idea of quarantine. How is it possible to travel to another country, carry out any required business and then return without having any contact with another person? 


Title: Re: Quarantine Challenge
Post by: eXPassenger on August 24, 2020, 19:00:43
The question may become academic.  The Guardian is reporting that France will introduce quarantine for arrivals from the UK.


Title: Re: Quarantine Challenge
Post by: Timmer on August 24, 2020, 19:07:20
I have a friend who is relying on the above advice to drive himself and his father from his home in Brittany to the Channel Tunnel, go through it to the UK side, drop his father off there, and then come back through the tunnel, returning to his home in Brittany without needing to quarantine on the UK side.

The question is - Is he right to rely on that interpretation?
That is correct, you can leave the UK at anytime during the 14 day Quarantine period.



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