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Title: Access to Ashley Down Rail Station Engagement Survey
Post by: Lee on September 22, 2020, 09:05:37 am
WECA have launched a survey on access to the proposed station at Ashley Down https://travelwest.info/projects/ashley-down-station#survey

This survey closes on Sunday 1st November 2020.


Title: Re: Access to Ashley Down Rail Station Engagement Survey
Post by: Red Squirrel on September 22, 2020, 02:23:25 pm
There's quite a lot of interesting stuff on the TravelWest site (https://travelwest.info/projects/ashley-down-station) now, including a rather good aerial view of the new station and a YouTube vid of the access arrangements (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=fFuC4w1hk8E&feature=emb_logo).


Title: Re: Access to Ashley Down Rail Station Engagement Survey
Post by: Bmblbzzz on September 22, 2020, 02:57:06 pm
A couple of comments, one frivolous, others less so. To get the frivolous one out of the way: Will there really be IETs calling at this station as the video suggests?!

And the others:
Opening in 2023 seems optimistic compared to the experience of other local stations.
They mention services to Henbury but nothing to Parkway. If this is correct, this will substantially reduce the usefulness of the station.
The design includes lifts for the footbridge rather than ramps. I take the point that this is less visually intrusive and also takes less platform space, but it will presumably incur increased maintenance costs. And I'm mildly surprised it's acceptable to have lifts on an unstaffed station.


Title: Re: Access to Ashley Down Rail Station Engagement Survey
Post by: IndustryInsider on September 22, 2020, 03:20:07 pm
And I'm mildly surprised it's acceptable to have lifts on an unstaffed station.

Until fairly recently it was a no-no, but now becoming more and more common at unstaffed/partially unstaffed stations.  I presume there are minimum requirements in terms of remote monitoring and response times in the event of someone becoming trapped?


Title: Re: Access to Ashley Down Rail Station Engagement Survey
Post by: johnneyw on September 22, 2020, 03:36:05 pm
I'm still a little surprised that a bridge/lift is needed and that an access ramp from Station Lane on the Muller Road side is not possible.  I'll probably have a gander down there tomorrow to try to see why it's a non-runner.


Title: Re: Access to Ashley Down Rail Station Engagement Survey
Post by: Red Squirrel on September 22, 2020, 03:45:48 pm
A couple of comments, one frivolous, others less so. To get the frivolous one out of the way: Will there really be IETs calling at this station as the video suggests?!

And the others:
Opening in 2023 seems optimistic compared to the experience of other local stations.
They mention services to Henbury but nothing to Parkway. If this is correct, this will substantially reduce the usefulness of the station.
The design includes lifts for the footbridge rather than ramps. I take the point that this is less visually intrusive and also takes less platform space, but it will presumably incur increased maintenance costs. And I'm mildly surprised it's acceptable to have lifts on an unstaffed station.

I wondered about the IET too. There is, I suppose, at least the potential for Test Match Specials to call one day... Gloucestershire Cricket Club is less than 500m from the new station.

You are right that trains from here will all go to Henbury, not to Parkway, as plans currently stand. There will (presumably) be an option to change at Filton Abbey Wood for services to the north; for points east people may find it easier to head to Temple Meads rather than towards Parkway. It also opens up an opportunity to connect to the Severn Beach line, via Stapleton Road. The devil, as always, is in the timetabling!

Pre-COVID, YTL were in discussions about running trains across the Filton Diamond from Brabazon to Parkway. It is hard to imagine trains just shuttling back and forth between these points. So the future may hold a much more interesting service pattern. For now, the Henbury Spur on its own is still a Good Thing.


Title: Re: Access to Ashley Down Rail Station Engagement Survey
Post by: Bmblbzzz on September 22, 2020, 04:27:15 pm
YTL? !!! Presumably this means they were trying to persuade GWR to run this service? Or are everyone's favourite Malaysian conglomerate now in the train business as well as water and arenals?


Title: Re: Access to Ashley Down Rail Station Engagement Survey
Post by: Red Squirrel on September 22, 2020, 05:03:24 pm
They were talking to Network Rail.


Title: Re: Access to Ashley Down Rail Station Engagement Survey
Post by: Red Squirrel on September 22, 2020, 05:12:42 pm
I'm still a little surprised that a bridge/lift is needed and that an access ramp from Station Lane on the Muller Road side is not possible.  I'll probably have a gander down there tomorrow to try to see why it's a non-runner.

Ah, I think I can see the trap you've fallen into. It would probably be quite feasible to build a ramp from Station Lane up to the level of the station, but unfortunately at that point you'd still have to get across the main lines to reach the platform...  Blame TonyK!


Title: Re: Access to Ashley Down Rail Station Engagement Survey
Post by: johnneyw on September 22, 2020, 06:15:09 pm
I'm still a little surprised that a bridge/lift is needed and that an access ramp from Station Lane on the Muller Road side is not possible.  I'll probably have a gander down there tomorrow to try to see why it's a non-runner.

Ah, I think I can see the trap you've fallen into. It would probably be quite feasible to build a ramp from Station Lane up to the level of the station, but unfortunately at that point you'd still have to get across the main lines to reach the platform...  Blame TonyK!

You're right and I will!


Title: Re: Access to Ashley Down Rail Station Engagement Survey
Post by: Red Squirrel on September 30, 2020, 11:01:55 am
Tours are available for anyone interested in the new landscaping:

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/ashley-down-station-walkabout-tour-of-proposed-landscape-design-tickets-123193540195?aff=Stakeholder

(https://fosbr.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/BD13149-Ashley-Down-social-media-slide2_1200x630.jpg)


Title: Re: Access to Ashley Down Rail Station Engagement Survey
Post by: Red Squirrel on October 13, 2020, 05:21:42 pm
I went on the tour of the new access arrangements for Ashley Down station today.

(https://fosbr.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/ashley_down_gazebo.jpg)

Rather than duplicate it all here, I'll link you to my post on the FoSBR website:

https://fosbr.org.uk/ashley-down-station-tour/



Title: Re: Access to Ashley Down Rail Station Engagement Survey
Post by: Red Squirrel on November 29, 2020, 12:10:12 pm
According to the West of England 10 Year Rail Delivery Plan for Investment: 2020 - 2030 (see http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=24296.msg297475#msg297475):

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Ashley Down station
To facilitate the earlier delivery of Ashley Down station during the national COVID19 emergency, funding from the 'New Stations Fund' has been requested to accelerate the detailed design and construction including the preparation of the full business case. Ashley Down station's location on the Filton Bank lines means it should be possible for it to be served by existing services. This means it could be separated from the Henbury Line MetroWest Phase 2 works. The construction of the station would provide access to the rail network to a large number of people due to the residential area in which it will be located, noting there are significant challenges to be overcome with the location and gradient.



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