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Journey by Journey => Cross Country services => Topic started by: dog box on April 11, 2008, 13:04:23



Title: cross country hsts
Post by: dog box on April 11, 2008, 13:04:23
Presumably Cross Country will need to use an SDO System on the HSTs which they plan to introduce shortly.


Title: Re: cross country hsts
Post by: Conner on April 11, 2008, 15:53:18
Presumably Cross Country will need to use an SDO System on the HSTs which they plan to introduce shortly.
No as all stations will have Grandfather Rights, as HSTs have been used before.


Title: Re: cross country hsts
Post by: dog box on April 11, 2008, 19:58:18
I Know the MML Set FGW had which has passed to Cross Country was fitted with SDO Panels, seems odd that FGW HST sets now no longer have Grandfather rights Whilst CC ones will retain them , presumably they will revert to using old type door panels


Title: Re: cross country hsts
Post by: swlines on April 11, 2008, 20:02:57
FGW sets don't have grandfather rights simply as SDO is now fitted in them. If they still retain original door locking then they will retain grandfather rights.

I believe LA79 will keep the SDO as I'm sure it can't be uninstalled once fitted.


Title: Re: cross country hsts
Post by: Conner on April 11, 2008, 20:07:55
I believe LA79 will keep the SDO as I'm sure it can't be uninstalled once fitted.
And it has lost Grandfather Rights, Coss Country may fit it to all of them as one has it.


Title: Re: cross country hsts
Post by: dog box on April 11, 2008, 20:11:15
Surely if they fit SDO to all of there sets they will probably be forced to use it at Short platforms


Title: Re: cross country hsts
Post by: Conner on April 11, 2008, 20:17:14
Surely if they fit SDO to all of there sets they will probably be forced to use it at Shotr platforms
Yeh, but they will learn from FGW's mistakes I bet.


Title: Re: cross country hsts
Post by: swlines on April 11, 2008, 20:19:09
I believe LA79 will keep the SDO as I'm sure it can't be uninstalled once fitted.
And it has lost Grandfather Rights, Coss Country may fit it to all of them as one has it.
I suspect it is more likely for a derogation to be issued to that set until it is sent for refurbishment by XC, which may result in SDO being removed.


Title: Re: cross country hsts
Post by: Conner on April 11, 2008, 20:24:01
I believe LA79 will keep the SDO as I'm sure it can't be uninstalled once fitted.
And it has lost Grandfather Rights, Coss Country may fit it to all of them as one has it.
I suspect it is more likely for a derogation to be issued to that set until it is sent for refurbishment by XC, which may result in SDO being removed.
I don't know if H&S would allow that though, a less safer train after it could have been safer.


Title: Re: cross country hsts
Post by: swlines on April 11, 2008, 20:50:17
How is it safer apart from the problem of a prat (sorry, but it's true) falling out of the coach onto the ballast when it is announced which coaches will be platformed (which was required even before SDO came in)....

It doesn't help people if there is a crash does it?


Title: Re: cross country hsts
Post by: Conner on April 11, 2008, 21:26:24
How is it safer apart from the problem of a prat (sorry, but it's true) falling out of the coach onto the ballast when it is announced which coaches will be platformed (which was required even before SDO came in)....
Which appears to be the reason behind it. IMO it doesn't make it safer at all.


Title: Re: cross country hsts
Post by: Btline on April 11, 2008, 21:27:27
How is it safer apart from the problem of a prat (sorry, but it's true) falling out of the coach onto the ballast when it is announced which coaches will be platformed (which was required even before SDO came in)....

It doesn't help people if there is a crash does it?

Correct.

It is an insult to the Great British people (excluding the prats).



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