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Title: A little issue
Post by: swlines on April 11, 2008, 17:42:15
Whilst I agree with the idea of the pledge for the Melksham route - I don't particularly agree with the huge banner here on the coffee shop.

We all know that Melksham deserves a better service, but doing it through a huge banner at the top of the page which is aimed at FGW on the whole IMHO is only going to really turn users away as it appears that the sites concentration is on Melksham, which is surely what savethetrain is for...

Tom


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: John R on April 11, 2008, 18:04:23
And more to the point, it takes up so much space that it makes navigation etc more difficult.


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: grahame on April 11, 2008, 18:24:48
It's shrunk, gentlemen ... a bit big and brash on my part (and you can blame me alone for that!) - sorry.


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: swlines on April 11, 2008, 18:28:00
That's a fair bit better - although Graham you may wish to resize the actual text banner as I've got a huge amount of whitespace either side of it... serves me right for using 1680x1050 though! ;)


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: Mookiemoo on April 11, 2008, 18:40:14
That's a fair bit better - although Graham you may wish to resize the actual text banner as I've got a huge amount of whitespace either side of it... serves me right for using 1680x1050 though! ;)

I'm 1920x1200 and its fine for me


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: Tinminer on April 11, 2008, 18:52:02
Perhaps we could focus on one re-opening scheme each week or month at the top of the website, thereby giving other deserved causes publicity as well as Melksham (which I DO thoroughly support).

For example: Tavistock, Okehampton, Newquay re-route, Cotswold line re-doubling, etc, etc.

....just a thought!


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: Conner on April 11, 2008, 19:00:11
I'm 1920x1200 and its fine for me
serves me right for using 1680x1050 though! ;)

You are both insain.  :D


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: Mookiemoo on April 11, 2008, 19:14:32
I'm 1920x1200 and its fine for me
serves me right for using 1680x1050 though! ;)

You are both insain.  :D

NOT!

I WANT MORE PIXELS!



Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: swlines on April 11, 2008, 19:17:59
You're already at over 1080p!!!

1680x1050 is the default resolution on my iMac. :)


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: Conner on April 11, 2008, 19:19:37
I'm 1920x1200 and its fine for me
serves me right for using 1680x1050 though! ;)

You are both insain.  :D


NOT!

I WANT MORE PIXELS!


I'm on 1280x800 but am not that sure about that.


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: grahame on April 11, 2008, 19:58:38
Perhaps we could focus on one re-opening scheme each week or month at the top of the website, thereby giving other deserved causes publicity as well as Melksham (which I DO thoroughly support).

For example: Tavistock, Okehampton, Newquay re-route, Cotswold line re-doubling, etc, etc.

....just a thought!

Yes, indeed.   Very happy to keep the site moving and to highlight causes rather than have it go plain and turgid.  And if particular issues are liekly to be "hot" in the coming month, then they're probably good ones to mention.  The TransWilts (Melksham is only a quarter of the traffic - it just happens to have been worst hit by the cuts!) is at a crucial stage for the next few weeks ...


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: smokey on April 12, 2008, 10:58:20
Perhaps we could focus on one re-opening scheme each week or month at the top of the website, thereby giving other deserved causes publicity as well as Melksham (which I DO thoroughly support).

For example: Tavistock, Okehampton, Newquay re-route, Cotswold line re-doubling, etc, etc.

....just a thought!

It's well known that the Road Lobby and Air Lobby run rings round the DfT, unlike the Rail lobby.
I came out of RDS (Rail Future) or what ever they call them selves now, RDS will never make much headway,
why?
Because it's split into small regional groups.

What makes the DfT sit up  a small feather pointing at it or a MASSIVE kick up the BACK SIDE?

The Road lobby has a simple strategy, sit down work out the top Road schemes, put together the reasons to improve said road, then kick the DfT hard about it.
When the DfT find funding, the road lobby move on to the 2nd scheme on their wish list!!!!

Rail lobbists infight about different schemes and get NOWHERE.


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: Lee on April 12, 2008, 11:21:58
Rail lobbists infight about different schemes and get NOWHERE.

One of the reasons CANBER was set up was to give various campaigning groups and individuals a means of networking with eachother. Not everybody agrees on everything (an impossible aim, I would suggest) but overall I think it works well.

As a Coffee Shop Global Moderator, one of the things that pleases me is that several forum members are also leading figures in rail-related organisations, and this also gives us an opportunity to discuss issues that otherwise may not have been available to us.


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: eightf48544 on April 12, 2008, 14:20:21
CANBER?

I agree with smokey that rail lobbisists fight about different schemes. Also the very clever split between Networkrail and the TOCs means that the being transitory beasts TOCs have no vested interest in large scale investments other than those they were foolish enough to sign up to with their franchise.

Networkrail, therefore, has no reason to push any schemes other than those in the watered down strategy.

Therefore, at the risk of bing shot down here is my list of possible schemes for te eFGW franchise area.

More stock an essential first step to alleviate overcrowding and provide more trains, This solves the Melksham problem.

I would suggest extra carriage for 165/166 so 3 become 4 and 2 become 3  plus say 10 extra  compatible two cars for branches and train stengthening.

SW trains 159 fleet to get similar extras cars and more units.

West of England fleet more 20+? 2 car units to make 14Xs redundant and  use of 153s as trains redundant. 153s to be train stengtheners.

Reopenings

Bere Alston - Tavistock Stage 1

Tavistock Okehampton Stage 2 (to provide alternative route to Plymouth for when Dawlish seawall disappears).

Bourne End - High Wycombe


Capacity enhancements

Cotswold redoubling
Salisbury Exeter

Electrification 25KV long term

GWML in stages.

London to Banbury/ Bedwyn including Greenford loop all curves, Old Oak to West Ruslip, Marylebone Banbury and Aylesbury Via Wycombe.


Electrification third rail.

Reading to Basingstoke to enable Reading to  Brighton to be electric. The only problem with doing Reading Basingstoke third rail is that you would have to have third rail through Reading station. If 25KV Reading New Junction becomes boundary, but would require dual voltage units for Brightons.

Guildford to Reigate North Downs

Basingstoke to Exeter

Southampton Salisbury via Redbridge and Chandlers Ford

Salisbury Westbury (either system does it make more sense for Salisbury or Westbury to be boundary?

Tram Trains:

Bristol including Portishead Avonmouth (both ways) Severn Beach possibly Yate/Thornbury (via Mangotsfield?).

By splitting it up into several projects under different headings you can an argue that each type of project is different (meets a different aim) and, therefore, work should be done on one project under each heading.


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: Lee on April 12, 2008, 15:26:56
CANBER?

You can find out about us in the website link below.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/actionnetwork/G1517

As good a time as any to let you all know that we will be moving to http://canber.co.uk/ at some point before Action Network closes (my thanks to swlines for the webspace.)

I stand by what I said earlier about CANBER being a good way of giving various campaigning groups and individuals a means of networking with eachother. In the overwhelming majority of cases, those I have come into contact with have been very supportive of what we are trying to do.

Believe it or not, I am one of life's optimists, and I hope that we can play a small but significant part in bringing rail campaigners together and helping them to further their aims.


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: Conner on May 13, 2008, 17:14:17
Perhaps we could focus on one re-opening scheme each week or month at the top of the website, thereby giving other deserved causes publicity as well as Melksham (which I DO thoroughly support).

For example: Tavistock, Okehampton, Newquay re-route, Cotswold line re-doubling, etc, etc.

....just a thought!

Yes, indeed.   Very happy to keep the site moving and to highlight causes rather than have it go plain and turgid.  And if particular issues are liekly to be "hot" in the coming month, then they're probably good ones to mention.  The TransWilts (Melksham is only a quarter of the traffic - it just happens to have been worst hit by the cuts!) is at a crucial stage for the next few weeks ...

What is the 'theme' going to be this month then?


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: grahame on May 13, 2008, 17:28:06
Suggestions please?

First subject to get two posts and I'll put up something about it to the best of my resources (subject to it being relevant to rail and this wedge of the UK!)


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: IanL on May 13, 2008, 17:34:59
Well, it is a little under a month until ORR get to decide on NR's plan for redoubling parts of the Cotswold line.


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: Conner on May 13, 2008, 18:01:06
Yeh, I'm with IanL, the Cotswold redoubling is relevant at the moment so it should be put up.


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: Btline on May 13, 2008, 18:30:24
Yes. It is critical that the ORR see sense.

Once the redoubling is started, is will be easier to extend it (with scheduled re-signalling etc.).


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: grahame on May 14, 2008, 07:35:22
Cotswold line it will be.

PLEASE can someone email me some .jpg files (or point me to some .jpgs I can use) for the purpose - this ain't my area.  Note my email address is graham@wellho.net and it is vital that I have copyright clearnance on the pictures - so they must be yours, and you need to confirm in the email that I may use them here!

Thanks!


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: IanL on May 14, 2008, 11:54:31
Graham,

3 pictures sent to email address.

Ian


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: grahame on May 14, 2008, 12:42:44
Graham,

3 pictures sent to email address.

Ian

I have them, thanks Ian;   I will resize and use them tonight - that way they will oad quickly for everyone!


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: Phil on June 30, 2008, 14:43:43
It's a new month starting tomorrow - can I cast my vote for an improved service for Melksham to be the next subject of the website banner theme, please?

My family lives in Melksham. #1 son is working in Salisbury now and the train service from Melksham is so infrequent and unreliable that he's having to drive to either Trowbridge or Westbury every day and catch a train from there (or occasionally he'll just drive all the way - although affordable older cars invariably = frequent repair bills, so the less driving involved the better it is both for my pocket as well as for the environment!)


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: John R on June 30, 2008, 15:22:52
Wasn't that the last subject?

I'd vote for Portishead, but I haven't got any pictures.


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: Phil on June 30, 2008, 15:26:54
Yes it was the last subject - but as far as I can make out, the rules are simply that the first relevant subject to get two posts voting for it becomes the title of the month. I'm therefore casting my vote for whatever is nearest to my heart (and pocket!)


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: Lee on June 30, 2008, 16:58:10
As much as I have always supported the TransWilts cause, I'm voting Portishead.

Very much in the news recently, and a worthy banner theme (link below.)
http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=3033.msg23280#msg23280


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: swlines on June 30, 2008, 18:20:33
<JOKE> Weymouth 3 trains per hour!!! </JOKE>

Portishead for me too.


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: Btline on June 30, 2008, 18:42:54
Makes sense to remove the Cotswold Line one now. Thanks for having it up there.


Title: Re: A little issue
Post by: grahame on June 30, 2008, 18:59:46
Makes sense to remove the Cotswold Line one now. Thanks for having it up there.

My Pleasure .... and in spite of the "TransWilts / Melksham" suggestion being in my own back yard (and campaigning aim) I'm inclinded to go with Portishead. 



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