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All across the Great Western territory => Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them => Topic started by: CyclingSid on November 25, 2020, 10:03:27



Title: Government seeks views on boosting rural transport connectivity with e-bikes ...
Post by: CyclingSid on November 25, 2020, 10:03:27
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The distance between a person?s home and their nearest mass transport hub is often around five miles in rural areas.

There must be some bright ideas from those of us who don't live in large urban areas!

https://www.bikebiz.com/government-seeks-views-on-boosting-rural-transport-connectivity-with-e-bikes-and-digital-mapping/ (https://www.bikebiz.com/government-seeks-views-on-boosting-rural-transport-connectivity-with-e-bikes-and-digital-mapping/)


Title: Re: Government seeks views on boosting rural transport connectivity with e-bikes ...
Post by: Red Squirrel on November 25, 2020, 10:17:11
...and it might be worth reiterating here that the kind of cycling infrastructure envisioned by Gear Change will also accommodate people with disabilities (using 3-wheelers, for example), as well as cargo bikes and e-scooters.


Title: Re: Government seeks views on boosting rural transport connectivity with e-bikes ...
Post by: broadgage on December 23, 2020, 15:13:53
Agree, I am a supporter of cycling, including electrically assisted cycles for the less fit, or for distances too great for unassisted cycling.
Three wheelers, e-scooters, cargo bikes, and similar lightweight vehicles powered by human effort, electricity, or both, should all be encouraged.


Title: Re: Government seeks views on boosting rural transport connectivity with e-bikes ...
Post by: TonyK on December 23, 2020, 17:35:41
There must be some bright ideas from those of us who don't live in large urban areas!

The roads around where I live, about midway between Tiverton and its eponymous Parkway, are very popular with the more Lycra-clad end of the cycling spectrum. At weekends, hardly a moment seems to pass without a peloton whizzing past, and our local farm shop cafe has simple but effective parking for many bicycles of the "lift with one finger" variety.

God only knows why it's so popular, because it scares the living daylights out of me. The main road towards Tiverton is largely OK, with the traditional dotted line forming a bike path with all the drains in it, but the lanes to be negotiated are narrow with high hedges, sufficiently so as to hide from view the tractor towing a tank of slurry on the way to the antisocial digester, about to appear from around the bend. The surface of the lanes mirrors that of the moon to a large degree, having borne the double whammy of heavy use by agricultural vehicles and the woes of a cash-strapped council. The main road in the direction of the station is very narrow with no pavement or refuge for large parts, and pretty hilly at times for the less athletic. (Actually, it is just as hilly for the athletic, but they don't get off and push). It is pretty busy, with the occasional bus, more farm vehicles, delivery vans and the sort of idiot who thinks a 60 mph limit is something that must be exceeded whether it's safe or not, sometimes driving one of the farm vehicles or vans. Nothing I can think of would transform this into a safe and inviting cycle route for the non-Tour-de-France rider, other than a parallel road for cycles only.

There is, close by, the Grand Western Canal. That makes for a pleasant, gentler, ride. It's a circuitous route to the station, but flat and in reasonable order, and a joy to trundle along on the colder, wetter days when pedestrians, fishermen and picnickers are at home. I haven't been there for a few months, because it is impossible to stay 2 metres apart on a 1-metre towpath without getting very wet. In normal times, fishermen complain about cyclists and canoeists, pedestrians complain about fishermen and cyclists, and cyclists complain about pedestrians, fishermen, and the pinch points at bridges. I always slow done or stop (most pedestrians are faster than me anyway) because it takes less time than an argument, and doesn't leave the same sour taste. The owners of the horse-drawn barge complain about all of the above, but only if they misbehave or act intolerantly. Most folk respect them and especially the horses, and even the lunatic fringe of the angling fraternity realise that the boat doesn't have brakes.

So I applaud the move to make all this better, but consider that without solving the problems that face the ordinary cyclists, e-bikes would only make things slightly faster, not easier or safer. I would love to be proven wrong, though, and shall let you know how I get on when my e-bike arrives.


Title: Re: Government seeks views on boosting rural transport connectivity with e-bikes ...
Post by: Bmblbzzz on December 23, 2020, 19:04:44
...and it might be worth reiterating here that the kind of cycling infrastructure envisioned by Gear Change will also accommodate people with disabilities (using 3-wheelers, for example), as well as cargo bikes and e-scooters.
In other words, they should be nothing like this (new this year, I think) bridge over the canal in Selly Oak. I'm not sure what standards it was, or was meant to be, constructed to, but it presents quite a challenge to the woman in the e-trike (who can't ride a 2-wheeler, can't walk too far, but can apparently swim well... though probably not in the canal).
https://youtu.be/f48-J1Vl4Lo


Title: Re: Government seeks views on boosting rural transport connectivity with e-bikes ...
Post by: CyclingSid on December 24, 2020, 06:55:58
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...fishermen complain about cyclists and canoeists, pedestrians complain about fishermen and cyclists, and cyclists complain about pedestrians, fishermen, and the pinch points at bridges.

I think the only group you have missed is the dog walkers without a lead (for the dog?)


Title: Re: Government seeks views on boosting rural transport connectivity with e-bikes ...
Post by: TonyK on December 24, 2020, 09:04:14
I think the only group you have missed is the dog walkers without a lead (for the dog?)

Sorry, CyclingSid, I stand corrected. I thought of myself as a six-legged pedestrian when we had a dog, but you are right. A whole new sub-group, who are also complained about by the swans. It's generally a peaceful place, though, and part of the way towards the basin, one is able to transfer to the old railway that used to run from Tiverton Junction to Tivvy itself, for a straighter route into town.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50754043006_63dc7e7338_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50753323133_80db30349f_c.jpg)


Title: Re: Government seeks views on boosting rural transport connectivity with e-bikes ...
Post by: grahame on December 24, 2020, 09:28:06
I am reminded of "Cycle facility of the month" jump in at http://wcc.crankfoot.xyz/facility-of-the-month/August2012.htm as a random example.

If you're a highways engineer, you could learn a lot from the (amazing, negative) works of others.   In places, you could learn a lot from talking to the cyclists too.

Getting through Telford - picture taken on my way to the ACoRP (as it was called then) annual awards yesterday, where some particularly effective  writing from certain parties here (thank you) propelled me to silver medal in the "Outstanding Volunteer" category.  All about teamwork ...

Oh - Telford.   Straight though for road traffic.  Straight through for trains.  Bends gentle enough for walkers at their pace. Cyclists please slow down in the middle of your journey to take the corners ...

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/telwiggle.jpg)


Title: Re: Government seeks views on boosting rural transport connectivity with e-bikes ...
Post by: TonyK on December 24, 2020, 15:10:41
Oh - Telford.   Straight though for road traffic.  Straight through for trains.  Bends gentle enough for walkers at their pace. Cyclists please slow down in the middle of your journey to take the corners ...


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