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Title: Northern line to Battersea Power Station - testing phase
Post by: grahame on January 04, 2021, 08:05:35 am
A new-build that has been mentioned from time to time, as in the following, but never had its own thread.

From The Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4215586/New-no-frills-trains-open-little-used-lines.html)

Who knows what might be possible in the post-Brexit, post-truth world? With all the cash we save by ceasing to be a partner in the largest market in the world, we could probably afford to reopen all these lines and more. Or we could just say we'd done it, and who'd know we were lying?

Yes, in Post-Briexit world we are opening and building huge railway lines - including the following

Slough to Heathrow Airport
Cambridge to Bedford via Sandy and Reading via Oxford
Crossrail
Crossrail 2 North London to South West London and Surry/Berkshire via Clapham Junction
Bakerloo Line to Hayes, Kent from Elephant and Castle
Thameslink 2000 now called Thameslink Project London St Pancras to Cambridge via a new tunnel which was live in 2015
and has not been opened until now and Finsbury Park
DLR Extension to Plumstead and Thamesmead
Barking to Barking Riverside
Electrification between Gospel Oak and Barking in London
London Northern Line Extension to Battersea Power Station
The rerouting of the Metropolitan Line to Watford Junction in Watford
HS2
HS3 Crossrail across the North of England

New old line that could open again is

Creigiau to Cardiff Central via Pentyrch, Llantrisant, Talbot Green and Cardiff Queen Street

From City a.m. (https://www.cityam.com/on-track-first-passenger-trains-run-on-northern-line-tube-extension/)

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The extension to the Northern line came a step closer to completion over the Christmas period as the first passenger trains completed journeys through the new tunnels.

Test trains entered the 3.2km of new track at Kennington, passing through Nine Elms station before arriving at the extension?s second new station at Battersea Power Station.


Title: Re: Northern line to Battersea Power Station - testing phase
Post by: IndustryInsider on January 04, 2021, 09:30:25 am
If anyone has seen the colossal amount of dwellings built in and around the Battersea Power Station site, then it will become very clear why the extension is being built!


Title: Re: Northern line to Battersea Power Station - testing phase
Post by: grahame on March 10, 2021, 09:28:04 am
From New Civil Engineer (https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/london-underground-upgrades-to-northern-line-and-bank-station-gather-pace-10-03-2021/)

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London Underground upgrades to Northern line and Bank station gather pace 

Upgrades on the London Underground continue to gather pace, with work progressing on the capacity upgrade at Bank station and the Northern Line Extension programme.

A status update on both projects has reported good progress, revealed as part of agenda papers released ahead of next week’s Transport for London (TfL) board meeting.

TfL commissioner Andy Byford reports that getting the Northern Line Extension open this year is one of the main priorities identified by TfL for the year ahead.

Northern Line Extension
The Northern Line Extension project includes a twin-tunnelled extension from Kennington station to a new terminus at Battersea Power Station, via a new station at Nine Elms.

The project is scheduled for completion this autumn. At Battersea, the architecture and finishes to the eastern entrance to the station continue, as do tiling and the installation of mechanical equipment.


Title: Re: Northern line to Battersea Power Station - testing phase
Post by: broadgage on March 10, 2021, 05:54:38 pm
If anyone has seen the colossal amount of dwellings built in and around the Battersea Power Station site, then it will become very clear why the extension is being built!

I agree, but it would in my view have been preferable to build the underground line BEFORE the new housing, despite the fact that it would have been little used initially.
The drawback of housing first and THEN adding public transport, is that many occupants of the new housing will have purchased cars and got into the habit of driving.
Had the underground been there first, then some might have decided not to buy a car. Once people have purchased a car and paid the fixed costs of owning and running it, then the marginal cost of driving may be attractive if compared to LUL or other public transport fares.

Better late than never though.


Title: Re: Northern line to Battersea Power Station - testing phase
Post by: IndustryInsider on March 10, 2021, 06:19:06 pm
I agree, but it would in my view have been preferable to build the underground line BEFORE the new housing, despite the fact that it would have been little used initially.
The drawback of housing first and THEN adding public transport, is that many occupants of the new housing will have purchased cars and got into the habit of driving.
Had the underground been there first, then some might have decided not to buy a car. Once people have purchased a car and paid the fixed costs of owning and running it, then the marginal cost of driving may be attractive if compared to LUL or other public transport fares.

I wonder what percentage of the apartments come with any form of parking space?


Title: Re: Northern line to Battersea Power Station - testing phase
Post by: Surrey 455 on March 10, 2021, 07:45:14 pm
That area between Clapham Junction and Vauxhall (Nine Elms?) is a big construction site with many high rise flats completed but many more still being built.
The US embassy is also there and I believe that other embassies are considering relocating too. Parking spaces? Very limited, if any, additional spaces I would imagine.


Title: Re: Northern line to Battersea Power Station - testing phase
Post by: eightonedee on March 10, 2021, 08:47:47 pm
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I wonder what percentage of the apartments come with any form of parking space?

Before I retired from full time work at my previous firm last spring I might have been able to give a figure. All I can say is "I think it's not very many - that's not the market they have been aiming for".



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