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Sideshoots - associated subjects => News, Help and Assistance => Topic started by: grahame on January 25, 2021, 09:42:24



Title: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: grahame on January 25, 2021, 09:42:24
The forum may be offline for a while tonight (early hours of 26th January 2021). I will be playing about with character sets. Worst case I have to restore from a backup I'll take as I start the procedure and you will see a service gap of several hours. Best case - pound signs and other special characters will be sorted out and you won't even notice the forum was down for a few minutes.


Title: Re: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: Bmblbzzz on January 25, 2021, 10:26:29
you won't even notice the forum was down for a few minutes.
Oh yes we #~@&$%! will!


Title: Re: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: grahame on January 26, 2021, 05:17:25
The forum may be offline for a while tonight (early hours of 26th January 2021). I will be playing about with character sets. ...

OK - there is more risk of damage here than I had anticipated, and a possibly I need files that are hard to find and/or do manual conversions in some areas.  So NO CHANGE overnight - learning on a cloned copy of the software during the day to further evaluate risks and practise a (hopefully) solution.  Disappointing in the short term but erring on the side of safety.


Title: Re: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: TonyK on January 26, 2021, 08:23:57
I was going to bet ?5 that grahame doesn't change the major things. Let's see!


Title: Re: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: TonyK on January 26, 2021, 08:24:28
I was going to bet ?5 that grahame doesn't change the major things. Let's see!

Well...


Title: Re: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: grahame on January 26, 2021, 17:37:17
Testing done.   Good job I didn't press the very big green button that was so tempting, though labelled with lots of fine print about the damage it could do ... I cloned "The Coffee Shop" into "The Tea Room", pressed the green button in the the tea room and ended up with the problem I was looking to fix replaced by other problems (of the Northern "Changes to services on the line" which means "no trains at all" standard).

I HAVE worked out why it failed ... and having found out why, found out how to fix it, and tested my fix on the clone. And on that basis, I am going to break the Coffee Shop sometime in the middle of tonight, then use my experience to fix what I have just broken before too many of you good folks wake up.  Should be back on line before the honourable member for Minehead and the honourable member for Reading are ready for their first drink at dawn.


Title: Re: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: TonyK on January 26, 2021, 18:29:19
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I HAVE worked out why it failed ... and having found out why, found out how to fix it, and tested my fix on the clone. And on that basis, I am going to break the Coffee Shop sometime in the middle of tonight, then use my experience to fix what I have just broken before too many of you good folks wake up.  Should be back on line before the honourable member for Minehead and the honourable member for Reading are ready for their first drink at dawn.

Send in the clones.


Title: Re: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: grahame on January 27, 2021, 01:10:26
Testing

From Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-britain-juries/labour-calls-for-wartime-juries-of-7-to-cut-covid-19-trial-backlog-idUSKBN29V2O3)

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Criminal justice watchdogs have been warning of dire consequences from lengthy delays to trials, with victims losing faith in the system, witnesses’ memories fading and defendants’ lives on hold.

“The justice system is facing its gravest crisis since World War Two,” said David Lammy, Labour’s justice policy chief.

From The i (https://inews.co.uk/news/world/spain-high-speed-train-line-low-cost-tickets-uk-hs2-project-416-845495)

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Spain launched its low-cost bullet train rail service on Monday with tickets going for as little as €5 (£4.43) for journeys of over 600km.

By midday, customers had snapped up 33,390 tickets for the new AVLO service between Madrid and Barcelona.

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Title: Re: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: CyclingSid on January 27, 2021, 07:23:52
Looks good! Thanks for your ongoing tinkering in the engine room (or is that taken as insulting, which is not intended)


Title: Re: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: grahame on January 27, 2021, 09:01:11
Looks good! Thanks for your ongoing tinkering in the engine room (or is that taken as insulting, which is not intended)

My pleasure, and a good synonym. Replaced a component that didn't work properly when alongside other components which were updated last September. Then filtered all the fuel in the tank (and we have a lot of that) to clean all of that which had been damaged from prior to the September update.  Not perfect, but mostly right now and going forward.  Good to know I can still manage to do such things.


Title: Re: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: GBM on January 27, 2021, 10:34:09
 ....   Good to know I can still manage to do such things.

There's life in the old dog yet!  ;D
(Apologies, no offence intended)


Title: Re: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: Bmblbzzz on January 27, 2021, 11:26:29
Well tinkered, Grahame.  :)


Title: Re: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: bobm on January 27, 2021, 11:39:05
Good to know I can still manage to do such things.

For which we should all be grateful.  Some of us have never possessed the ability to work a database marvel in the first place!  (and I have tried)


Title: Re: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: Red Squirrel on January 27, 2021, 12:15:06
Excellently excellent!


Title: Re: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: paul7575 on January 27, 2021, 13:08:57
I’ve been having a lot of apostrophes and “speech marks” mangled recently, so I thought I’d have a quick test...

Yeah... ;D

Paul


Title: Re: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: TonyK on January 27, 2021, 13:13:05
I hope you will not object if I also offer Graham my most enthusiastic contrafibularities.


Title: Re: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: rogerw on January 27, 2021, 14:20:38
Time to catch up on your sleep now, Graham


Title: Re: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: Oxonhutch on January 27, 2021, 14:49:06
Good to know I can still manage to do such things.

And in the middle of the night too!

Well done, and thanks for your hard work.


Title: Re: Sorting out unsavoury characters
Post by: TonyK on January 28, 2021, 08:51:36
!"£$%^&*()_+@~<>?

I am impressed!

Edit: It works with weird characters such as à, although I haven't tried them all yet.



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