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Title: Lanes between Clevedon, Yatton, Nailsea, Claverham and Backwell opening
Post by: Red Squirrel on April 01, 2021, 14:24:34
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NOTICE OF INTENT
NORTH SOMERSET COUNCIL
(VARIOUS ROADS, NORTH SOMERSET)
(PROHIBITION OF MOTOR VEHICLES) ORDER 2021
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN
that North Somerset District Council proposes to make
an order under sections 1(1), 2(1) to (3) and 4(1) of and Part IV of Schedule 9 to the
Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 as amended.
The effect of the Order is to implement a prohibition of motor vehicles (with
exemptions) restriction on the network of lanes between Clevedon, Yatton,
Nailsea, Claverham and Backwell (including Backwell Common and Backwell
Bow). Please see the list of affected roads below.
Full details of the proposal are contained in the draft order, a plan of the affected
area, and a Statement of the Council’s Reasons for proposing to make the Order.

Full details or order (https://www.n-somerset.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2021-03/Notice%20of%20intent%20-%20combined%20doc%20with%20map.pdf)
Source: North Somerset Council

Here's the map, courtesy of North Somerset Council:
(https://fosbr.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/n-som-lanes.png)

Edit: Add map


Title: Re: Lanes between Clevedon, Yatton, Nailsea, Claverham and Backwell opening
Post by: Bmblbzzz on April 01, 2021, 14:36:07
This is an interesting move because it covers a wide area rather than one or two isolated lanes.


Title: Re: Lanes between Clevedon, Yatton, Nailsea, Claverham and Backwell opening
Post by: eXPassenger on April 01, 2021, 18:03:59
I have read the full order and it is very interesting.  The roads will be closed to through traffic but not bicycles or vehicles needing to visit properties (including pubs) on these lanes. 


Title: Re: Lanes between Clevedon, Yatton, Nailsea, Claverham and Backwell opening
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 01, 2021, 23:21:26
I drive my van on most of those narrow lanes, to make deliveries of essential groceries to vulnerable local residents, almost daily.  It will become so much easier without 'through traffic' vehicles also using them as a rat-run.  :-X



Title: Re: Lanes between Clevedon, Yatton, Nailsea, Claverham and Backwell opening
Post by: DaveHarries on April 07, 2021, 11:46:13
I have read the full order and it is very interesting.  The roads will be closed to through traffic but not bicycles or vehicles needing to visit properties (including pubs) on these lanes. 
What stops someone who decides to use those lanes to go between, say, Backwell and Clevedon but calling at the pub en-route for a fast half-pint?

Dave


Title: Re: Lanes between Clevedon, Yatton, Nailsea, Claverham and Backwell opening
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 07, 2021, 17:19:38
Coronovirus lockdown rules.  ;D



Title: Re: Lanes between Clevedon, Yatton, Nailsea, Claverham and Backwell opening
Post by: eXPassenger on April 07, 2021, 18:00:45
I have read the full order and it is very interesting.  The roads will be closed to through traffic but not bicycles or vehicles needing to visit properties (including pubs) on these lanes. 
What stops someone who decides to use those lanes to go between, say, Backwell and Clevedon but calling at the pub en-route for a fast half-pint?

Dave

Nothing.

I am however worried if the COVID restrictions are going to be permanent as CfN thinks.


Title: Re: Lanes between Clevedon, Yatton, Nailsea, Claverham and Backwell opening
Post by: Red Squirrel on April 07, 2021, 19:54:32
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Council allows more time to develop quiet rural lanes proposals
4:11pm - 07 April 2021

North Somerset Council is withdrawing plans to introduce a new Traffic Regulation Order on parts of the local rural lanes network to provide residents and road users with more opportunities to help shape the ‘quiet rural lanes’ proposals.

The proposals intend to make country lanes safer and more attractive for all who enjoy them, encouraging users to consider one another and take extra care to share the roads whether they’re on foot, in the saddle or behind the wheel.

These proposals would maintain normal access for local residents and support the economic recovery of local business by improving access for tourists and customers. It is hoped that the reduction in traffic would also help to protect the character, environment and biodiversity in sites of special scientific interest (SSSI) surrounding the rural lanes.

Cllr James Tonkin, North Somerset Council’s executive member for planning, highways and transport, said: “Last week, the council invited residents to respond to plans to reduce volumes of traffic on rural roads using a Traffic Regulation Order. In this instance, we have not provided our communities with enough information about the objectives of the ‘quiet rural lanes’ proposals, and so the Traffic Regulation Order has caused understandable concern.

“This is not how we usually engage with our communities and we are sorry that, on this occasion, we’ve not provided the necessary information or context in advance of notices going up.

“So far, we have received a broad range of both positive and negative responses to the proposals. This has demonstrated and reiterated the importance of local views in taking them forward. As such, we are withdrawing the Traffic Regulation Order so we can offer a more inclusive and comprehensive package of engagement. 

“We want to get it right on the ‘quiet rural lanes’ project and to do that we need to have the community with us and not against us. In putting residents at the forefront of our approach, that is exactly what we strive to do.”

The council will now develop new plans to engage with residents on the implementation of the Government funded ‘rural quiet lanes’ proposals. These plans will include a range of forums where local people can respond, for example webinar and Q&A sessions like those currently scheduled for the other schemes promoting Active Travel in North Somerset. The council will share details of the opportunities for community involvement in the coming days.

Source: North Somerset Council (https://www.n-somerset.gov.uk/news/council-allows-more-time-develop-quiet-rural-lanes-proposals?fbclid=IwAR0pzJEzQ17Jja1S-t3SugD4W_1KCOYsr1IYps5_u4eOM1rPQEiVURBTHo4)


Title: Re: Lanes between Clevedon, Yatton, Nailsea, Claverham and Backwell opening
Post by: CyclingSid on April 08, 2021, 07:03:16
I get the impression that this is probably related to:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2006/2082/made (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2006/2082/made)
so wouldn't be Covid only. My concern would be that, like 20 mph speed limits, the police don't object but won't enforce them.


Title: Re: Lanes between Clevedon, Yatton, Nailsea, Claverham and Backwell opening
Post by: ellendune on April 08, 2021, 07:50:05
I get the impression that this is probably related to:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2006/2082/made (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2006/2082/made)

You mean they had not carried out the consultation required by the legislation?


Title: Re: Lanes between Clevedon, Yatton, Nailsea, Claverham and Backwell opening
Post by: chuffed on April 08, 2021, 07:55:00
I think that James Tonkin, executive member for transport, received a right 'Tonking' from the electorate about this, hence the rapid withdrawal !



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