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Title: petition to remove barriers from under Bristol Parkway bridge
Post by: infoman on May 26, 2021, 04:29:40 pm
Any one know how to start a petition to keep it as it now is.

For those who don't really know the area,have a look at google maps

For drivers entering Hatchett road,if they could all head north towards Bradley stoke and use
Winterbourne road(B4057)
great stoke way and Stoke gifford by-pass to gain access to the M32 and central Bristol


 https://council.southglos.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDisplay.aspx?ID=41&RPID=4768585&HPID=4768585


Title: Re: petition to remove barriers from under Bristol Parkway bridge
Post by: ChrisB on May 26, 2021, 04:59:00 pm
Errr.....https://council.southglos.gov.uk/ielogon.aspx?lp=1&RPID=4806507&HPID=4806507&Forms=1


Title: Re: petition to remove barriers from under Bristol Parkway bridge
Post by: IndustryInsider on May 26, 2021, 07:44:50 pm
Err....for me Infoman's link works, whereas yours doesn't, Chris?


Title: Re: petition to remove barriers from under Bristol Parkway bridge
Post by: Bmblbzzz on May 27, 2021, 08:38:19 am
The petition seems to misunderstand the purpose of the barriers.
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WIth social distancing restrictions due to be relaxed in the near future there is no longer a need for these extra controls.
While they do resemble the barriers used for "pavement widening" in many places, the purpose of these barriers is to prevent bridge strikes on the arch bridge. Perhaps NR and SG both need to publicise their reasons/


Title: Re: petition to remove barriers from under Bristol Parkway bridge
Post by: stuving on May 27, 2021, 10:08:54 am
The petition seems to misunderstand the purpose of the barriers.
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WIth social distancing restrictions due to be relaxed in the near future there is no longer a need for these extra controls.
While they do resemble the barriers used for "pavement widening" in many places, the purpose of these barriers is to prevent bridge strikes on the arch bridge. Perhaps NR and SG both need to publicise their reasons/

Not so - but since there was a consultation exercise (https://consultations.southglos.gov.uk/ParkwayBridge/consultationHome) last September about making the changes permanent, a new, small, petition isn't likely to persuade the council to reconsider it. The consultation was introduced by:
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How do you feel about the changes to the traffic arrangements at Parkway railway bridge?

During the Covid 19 Virus pandemic we introduced changes to the road layout under Bristol Parkway  ailway bridge on Hatchet Road in Stoke Gifford. This was to help protect cyclists and pedestrians  gainst coronavirus as they returned to school and work and as shops started to reopen.

Historically this is a pinch point for people walking or cycling as the road narrows under the bridge, and our intention was to make improvements to allow people to socially distance and use the underpass with confidence. The extra space created either side of the running lane has been designated for people walking or cycling under the bridge and enables them to keep a safe distance from each other. Signs and road markings are in place to notify road users of the new road layout and direct cyclists and pedestrians to use it safely and appropriately.

Three education campuses- Abbeywood Community School, South Gloucestershire & Stroud College and Bristol Technology & Engineering Academy are located near to the railway bridge meaning that a high proportion of pedestrians and cyclists are children and young people and their numbers will continue to grow.

A permanent solution would require collaboration between the Council and Network Rail. An engineering scheme of this complexity would require a number of years to complete, therefore we are seeking your feedback on the suitability of the current measures in the short and medium term.

We would like to get your feedback on the scheme. Please complete and return this short survey by October 1st.

That page does say: "This consultation has now closed and we are analysing the results, which will be published here in due course." I can't see any signs of that result, so I guess the current state is still temporary pending the ongoing pondering.


Title: Re: petition to remove barriers from under Bristol Parkway bridge
Post by: Bmblbzzz on May 27, 2021, 11:19:08 am
Oh! Well in that case it seems to me these particular barriers have failed in their purpose. In fact they seem very badly placed to achieve their purpose. I've never seen anyone using the space between kerb and barriers for either walking or cycling. I doubt if there's actually room for cycling and even walking would be a bit of a pinch. Either widen the pavement properly (probably on the western side which has the cycle path) or return the road to its former layout.



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