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Title: another plan for Bristol trams PLEASE ALL READ
Post by: infoman on July 01, 2021, 08:00:56
Just because I have heard it so many times before.
Jim Harkin speaking on radio Bristol(thursday 1st July approx 07:20am)
Cost approx ten million pounds per kilometre,never stated if thats one straight line or a double tracked line
NOT INCLUDING relocating all the utilities,approx £200,000
Interviewer pressed Jim Harkin on the total cost, JH said the 9kms of Gloucester Road would cost 90 million pounds.
Length of Gloucester road from Stokes croft to to the junction of the link road(A4174) is 6kms
I presume that would be a double tracked line?
JH then stated the underground survey would have to be done first,
as this is what caused the Edinburgh sceme to cost much.
As the an underground survey was not done before construction work started.
JH also stated that trams would be more reliable, and compared the trams to the rail that have been around for 175 years.
Poor argument as we have had track renewals and new rolling stock over those 175 years
As a Bristolian,what I would like to see in my non perfect world would an underground system from the central area up whiteladies road to where the water tower is located.
Then cut across towards Horfield common and back to the central area via Gloucester road.
Both road/routes have some of the highest density of population in Bristol
I think I have covered everthing,so can I have your thoughts.
If you think I have got any thing wrong or I mis heard anything I apologise in advance 


Title: Re: another plan for Bristol trams PLEASE ALL READ
Post by: johnneyw on July 01, 2021, 09:36:27
Bristol Live has this:
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-can-first-new-generation-5595201

The local Beeb are reporting on it too:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-57652412


Title: Re: another plan for Bristol trams PLEASE ALL READ
Post by: eightonedee on July 01, 2021, 13:53:41
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NOT INCLUDING relocating all the utilities,approx £200,000

Hmm...

I am not a quantity surveyor, but I have seen much larger figures for utility relocation on relatively modest residential development schemes.

As an outsider, and only occasional visitor to Bristol, it strikes me that it has a structural problem. It has grown in all directions except to the west of the Avon Gorge, so any public transport scheme just following a few arterial routes into the city centre will not help many in the conurbation. The network shown in the Bristol Post article shows nothing serving the considerable area east of the city. Perhaps by the time this might come to fruition there might be other low carbon person transport solutions to the problem of moving people around the city?


Title: Re: another plan for Bristol trams PLEASE ALL READ
Post by: eXPassenger on July 01, 2021, 17:57:50
I have read the BBC report of the proposal and it logically makes sense.  I am sure the finances will end up costing significantly more than £90M.

Something certainly needs doing in Bristol.  In terms of route it is a reasonable starter as you cannot do the whole city in the first steps.  It will be reasonably complimentary to the megabus network which does go out to the East.

I give it no more than a 40% chance of continuing and hope to be proved wrong.


Title: Re: another plan for Bristol trams PLEASE ALL READ
Post by: infoman on July 01, 2021, 19:11:51
BBC points west local news at 18:30pm on Thursday,

had an interview with Emilia Meville who is the Coordinator of Moving Bristol Forward.

Local BBC news  is available on the replay  i-player thingy for TWENTY FOURS ONLY.



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