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Journey by Journey => London to Swindon and Bristol => Topic started by: grahame on October 26, 2021, 17:41:26



Title: Waterloo is not Paddington!
Post by: grahame on October 26, 2021, 17:41:26
This is an easy-share on Facebook - http://www.passenger.chat/25606pnwxxx - it should come up with a nice map as the graphic!

Visiting London from Bristol or Bath, Exeter or Reading, Frome or Westbury?

Take the train into PADDINGTON for Madam Tussauds, Regents Park, Hyde Park, Marble Arch, Kensington Gardens, Lords, London Zoo, Oxford Street, Albert Hall and Natural History and Science Museums

Take the train into WATERLOO for Houses of Parliament, Shakespeare's Globe, Whitehall, Festival Hall, Westmister Abbey, Trafalgar Square, St Pauls Cathedral, Tate Modern, The Strand, The City, Holborn, Tower of London, The London Eye and River Thames

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/pnwxxx.jpg)

If you value YOUR services to both destinations, please sign my petition at https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/598397 - Bristol and Bath services to Waterloo are scheduled for culling in December.  Direct Exeter and Reading services to both are safe - at least this year (but please help us by signing and helping prevent a precedent - there has been no public consultation and the culling decision looks ill-informed and perverse).  See http://waterloo.savethetrain.org.uk for more details.

Paddington is not Waterloo. Waterloo is not Paddington. They are different places, different destinations. They are 4.5 km apart.

The map accompanying this post shows a 2km radius circle around Paddington, Waterloo and also Clapham Junction (served by the Waterloo trains). That's a 25 to 35 minute walk (typical walking speed of 1.4 m/sec allowing for waiting to cross the road and the indirect nature of the walk)

* A comparison with other places which have multiple railway stations - in each case within walking distance of each other, and with strongly overlapping catchments):
1.5 km between Manchester (Picadilly) and Manchester (Victoria)
0.5 km between Glasgow (Central) and Glasgow (Queen Street)
10 yards between St Budeaux (Ferry Road) and St Budeaux (Victoria Road).


Title: Re: Waterloo is not Paddington!
Post by: Bmblbzzz on October 26, 2021, 18:42:48
I've never taken the train to Waterloo. But I have used the Waterloo service to reach Clapham Junction, where I've changed for Wimbledon (and I wasn't even going to the tennis!).


Title: Re: Waterloo is not Paddington!
Post by: PhilWakely on October 26, 2021, 18:50:13
Living in Pinhoe, I would almost exclusively use the Waterloo service, unless timings meant I missed the last train home - when I would revert to the Paddington service.


Title: Re: Waterloo is not Paddington!
Post by: johnneyw on October 26, 2021, 20:38:42
I tried to include the fact that Paddington and Waterloo are two different destinations ​in the letter that I wrote to my MP.

Incidentally, the Bristol to Waterloo route was the best for me when I went by rail to Northfleet so it's a route that's not just preferable for some London locations.


Title: Re: Waterloo is not Paddington!
Post by: grahame on October 26, 2021, 21:32:17
I tried to include the fact that Paddington and Waterloo are two different destinations ​in the letter that I wrote to my MP.

Incidentally, the Bristol to Waterloo route was the best for me when I went by rail to Northfleet so it's a route that's not just preferable for some London locations.

The map with the circles really brings it home, doesn't it?

Lots of family journeys to Kent and Surrey - it's far from all "London" traffic.


Title: Re: Waterloo is not Paddington!
Post by: PhilWakely on October 27, 2021, 06:06:59
Lots of family journeys to Kent and Surrey - it's far from all "London" traffic.

When I finished University in the late 1970s, my first job was in the fledgling IT (or DP as it was then!) industry with Lucas CAV in the Medway towns. This was during the time when Pinhoe station was closed (1966-1983) and the Exeter to Waterloo service not at all good. Even with those two challenges, I still used the Waterloo service because of the convenient change from Waterloo main station to Waterloo East for Gillingham (Kent).



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