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Title: Flying Scotsman Post by: Clan Line on December 19, 2021, 08:25:00 (https://i.postimg.cc/RFbP0ZH0/Screenshot-2021-12-19-081943.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Fd3bWmGt) Today's Telegraph Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: PrestburyRoad on December 19, 2021, 08:33:33 That's a splendid example of a Kármán vortex street https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n_vortex_street (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n_vortex_street). Rare to see because it needs still air to avoid the steam being blown away.
Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: JayMac on December 19, 2021, 08:58:44 Definite article. Arrrggghhh.
Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: JayMac on April 29, 2023, 09:00:53 Flying Scotsman will be in the West Country this Sunday 30th April 2023. Hauling The Royal Duchy railtour from Bristol Temple Meads to Par. The trip is one of those Flying Scotsman is undertaking as part of its centenary celebrations.
From The Railway Touring Company (https://www.railwaytouring.net/royal-duchy-flying-scotsman): Quote Our train leaves Bristol Temple Meads steam hauled by locomotive No.60103 Flying Scotsman in the morning and stops to pick up further passengers at Yatton and Taunton. Almost immediately on departure from Taunton, our steam locomotive will be working hard as it tackles the climb to Whiteball Summit. We stop at Exeter St. David’s station for our locomotive to take on water and for more passengers to join the train. We leave Exeter and follow the Exe Estuary to the seaside. We then travel along the famous sea wall between Dawlish and Teignmouth, an experience not to be missed. After Newton Abbot, our steam locomotive will demonstrate her real strength as she powers up some of the steepest main line gradients in the country. First there is the difficult climb to the summit at Dainton Tunnel, followed by a dramatic drop down to Totnes, then an equally difficult climb up Rattery Bank before descending to Plymouth. Passengers have the option to alight at Plymouth or remain on the train to Par. There will be over five hours free time to explore the historic maritime city of Plymouth which includes the Hoe, the ancient Barbican and seafront areas, and the National Marine Aquarium. We leave Plymouth, diesel hauled, and cross the river Tamar on Brunel’s masterpiece, the Royal Albert Bridge, to enter Cornwall. Our train continues through the magnificent Cornish countryside to Par, where there will be a break of more than three hours. Buses will take passengers from Par, at no extra charge, to visit either the picturesque seaside town of Fowey or the harbour village of Charlestown. The latter is a working port and home to the Shipwreck, Rescue & Heritage Centre. We leave Par late in the afternoon and stop at Plymouth to pick up those passengers who chose to alight there. Our train then returns to Bristol, stopping to set down passengers at Exeter, Taunton and Yatton enroute. A little surprisingly, timings were uploaded to RTT a day ahead of the railtour. https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U66311/2023-04-30/detailed It is also worth sharing this safety message from The Railway Touring Company: Quote The Railway Touring Company appreciate there is considerable interest in Flying Scotsman, but stress that anyone wishing to see Flying Scotsman on route should do so from a safe and permitted place - trespassing along rail lines or into prohibited areas of train stations is dangerous. It is vital that spectators do not venture onto the railway when Flying Scotsman is on the main line as a full timetable of regular services will also be running. For safety, keep away from the railway line. ... and no definite article. So many media outlets continue to refer to this locomotive as The Flying Scotsman. Really grinds my gears does that. >:( Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: PhilWakely on April 29, 2023, 09:26:39 Flying Scotsman will be in the West Country this Sunday 30th April 2023. Hauling The Royal Duchy railtour from Bristol Temple Meads to Par. The trip is one of those Flying Scotsman is undertaking as part of its centenary celebrations. From The Railway Touring Company (https://www.railwaytouring.net/royal-duchy-flying-scotsman): Quote <snip> We stop at Exeter St. David’s station for our locomotive to take on water and for more passengers to join the train. <snip> We leave Plymouth, diesel hauled, and cross the river Tamar on Brunel’s masterpiece, the Royal Albert Bridge, to enter Cornwall. <snip> A little surprisingly, timings were uploaded to RTT a day ahead of the railtour. https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U66311/2023-04-30/detailed Two changes that appear to have been made to the itinerary ... 1) FS will be taking on water at Tiverton Loop rather than Exeter St Davids; and 2) FS will potentially haul the train right through to Par as the St Blazey turntable has now been passed fit to be used. Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: Clan Line on April 29, 2023, 12:13:49 ... and no definite article. So many media outlets continue to refer to this locomotive as The Flying Scotsman. Really grinds my gears does that. >:( ...............as do references to "the" HMS ***** or "the" Salisbury Plain (TV weather forecasters are particularly bad on this one). Another more recently arrived annoyance is the addition of an "s" to aircraft - what next, "sheeps" and "mouses" ?? Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: bobm on April 29, 2023, 12:28:06 Providing they stick to aircraft and not airplane I might just forgive them.
Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: Red Squirrel on April 29, 2023, 14:14:02 ... and no definite article. So many media outlets continue to refer to this locomotive as The Flying Scotsman. Really grinds my gears does that. >:( ...............as do references to "the" HMS ***** or "the" Salisbury Plain (TV weather forecasters are particularly bad on this one). Another more recently arrived annoyance is the addition of an "s" to aircraft - what next, "sheeps" and "mouses" ?? We all have our bugbears. I wish I'd not been told that Gower has no definite article, as I find myself having to stifle the urge to ask it that's the 'the Gower' in 'the Wales'. As to the inexplicably famous locomotive which, as I understand it, once achieved 98mph: shouldn't its name be in inverted commas? As to sheeps and mouses: I'm sure they're coming. YouTube keeps suggesting, as a category it thinks I may be interested in, 'Aircrafts'... Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: grahame on April 29, 2023, 14:18:51 Providing they stick to aircraft and not airplane I might just forgive them. Question to me today - "do you know the times for Flying Scotsman" . "No". "What's the point of running a train if no-one can see it?" So that people can travel? The difference between a rail enthusiast and an enthusiast for rail? Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: JayMac on April 30, 2023, 09:42:08 RTT getting the message out too.
(https://images2.imgbox.com/43/18/YDrYwkW4_o.jpg) Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: JayMac on April 30, 2023, 11:40:20 Flying Scotsman crew have reported people inside Gas House Lane level crossing near Yatton.
Idiotic muppets >:( Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: JayMac on April 30, 2023, 12:25:10 Screengrab from my video filmed at Totnes. Perfectly timed with a departing GWR.
(https://images2.imgbox.com/91/c1/6WseT9JM_o.jpeg) Edit... and the unedited video. https://youtu.be/fcCJJbwLlpE Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: JayMac on April 30, 2023, 14:37:04 A still from my video of Scotsman heading into Cornwall across the Royal Albert Bridge.
(https://images2.imgbox.com/e9/84/COUI4QX3_o.jpg) Edit... and the unedited video: https://youtu.be/Yt-MXOpYnqM Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: JayMac on April 30, 2023, 15:15:58 And the obligatory pup shot.
(https://images2.imgbox.com/bf/3c/PeiICw7g_o.jpg) Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: old original on April 30, 2023, 19:14:48 Just another kettle working out of it's area... meh...
Well one of us has to be a grump.. Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: MVR S&T on April 30, 2023, 20:34:51 Just watched it through Devon on 5 live camersa, technology huh!
Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: grahame on April 30, 2023, 21:23:48 Just another kettle working out of it's area... meh... Well one of us has to be a grump.. Oh ... have you taken that role? Is there room for a second person who is less than excited ... but yet many people love it and, putting aside the t**ts who make it dangerous, let them. Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: JayMac on April 30, 2023, 22:19:55 All good clean fun. It was great to see today so many children enthused by a piece of 100 year old technology. They're the next generation of rail enthusiasts who will hopefully keep the hobby alive - recording and photographing heritage rolling stock, using trains and advocating for them, volunteering...
Here's to another 100 years of (not The) Flying Scotsman! ...and all the other preserved rolling stock of course. Wherever it may be running. I don't subscribe to this 'out of area' malarkey. I've seen a Bulleid West Country Class climbing Shap. A Deltic trundling through Shropshire. A GWR Large Prairie in Essex. A Stanier Coronation Class in Dorset... All equally at home doing heritage duty. Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: JayMac on April 30, 2023, 22:41:28 Final post about Flying Scotsman today. I promise!
Quite the crowd at St Blazey to see 60103 being turned on the newly restored turntable. https://youtu.be/_wARt-kzgqE Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: PhilWakely on May 01, 2023, 11:43:20 Here's to another 100 years of (not The) Flying Scotsman! ...and all the other preserved rolling stock of course. Wherever it may be running. I don't subscribe to this 'out of area' malarkey. I've seen a Bulleid West Country Class climbing Shap. A Deltic trundling through Shropshire. A GWR Large Prairie in Essex. A Stanier Coronation Class in Dorset... All equally at home doing heritage duty. Good job you don't subscribe to this 'out of area' malarkey then. The 'Atlantic Coast Express' running between Waterloo and Exeter via Templecombe on Saturday, 20th May will no longer feature Bulleid Merchant Navy, 35028 'Clan Line', but will be in the charge of ex-LMS Jubilee class, 45596 'Bahamas' Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: JayMac on May 01, 2023, 16:16:33 Someone else will have to phot 'Bahamas'. I'll be in the middle of the Irish Sea on 20th May.
Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: Bmblbzzz on May 01, 2023, 18:00:37 Someone else will have to phot 'Bahamas'. I'll be in the middle of the Irish Sea on 20th May. In a parallel universe, a man and his dog are in the middle of the Caribbean, hoping that someone else gets a photo of the steam loco 'Isle of Man'... Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: TaplowGreen on May 01, 2023, 18:22:15 Someone else will have to phot 'Bahamas'. I'll be in the middle of the Irish Sea on 20th May. In a parallel universe, a man and his dog are in the middle of the Caribbean, hoping that someone else gets a photo of the steam loco 'Isle of Man'... shouldn't that be "The Isle of Man"? ;) Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: TaplowGreen on May 27, 2023, 14:40:12 Looks like modernisation may bring The Flying Scotsman to a halt.....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/26/flying-scotsman-future-doubt-trains-modern-doors/ Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: Western Pathfinder on May 27, 2023, 15:10:24 Absolutely pathetic piece of poor journalism,from Telegraph Reporters ,that means more than one who won't put a name to the article.
Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: Red Squirrel on May 27, 2023, 15:42:22 On this important issue of whether or not to use a definite article: it occurs to me that no-one bats an eyebrow when the first steam loco to reach 100mph is referred to as ‘the’ City of Truro, or an ocean liner is referred to as ‘the’ QE2. So I inquired of the Google to see what it said, and found this:
https://www.englishcurrent.com/grammar/definite-article-place-names-geography/ It seems that names with ‘of’ get a definite article, so that explains the City of Truro (maybe!) but not the QE2… The article also says street names never get one, which plainly isn’t true as I do most of my shopping on the Gloucester Road. Although today we got the train over to Clifton Down and pottered up and down Whiteladies Road, which never gets a ‘the’. I guess the most important thing is that we communicate in ways that other people can understand, and try not to get too cross with people whose understanding of the rules differs from ours. Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: TaplowGreen on May 27, 2023, 15:52:26 The article also says street names never get one, which plainly isn’t true as I do most of my shopping on the Gloucester Road. Although today we got the train over to Clifton Down and pottered up and down Whiteladies Road, which never gets a ‘the’. I guess the most important thing is that we communicate in ways that other people can understand, and try not to get too cross with people whose understanding of the rules differs from ours. Absolutely - as I will remind myself next time I walk along The Cut from Waterloo! One of the delights of the English language are its vagaries, and there are too many grammar Nazis around these days - I think social media has encouraged it. Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: JayMac on May 27, 2023, 15:58:34 I was on holiday so missed seeing The Braunton going though the Templecombe station.
Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: ChrisB on May 27, 2023, 19:38:06 Absolutely - as I will remind myself next time I walk along The Cut from Waterloo! Ahhhh, but that IS the name of the road. It isn't called just 'Cut' is it? Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: Red Squirrel on May 27, 2023, 22:52:56 One of the delights of the English language are its vagaries… It very much are. Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: Hal on May 28, 2023, 15:59:31 Absolutely - as I will remind myself next time I walk along The Cut from Waterloo! Ahhhh, but that IS the name of the road. It isn't called just 'Cut' is it? The road that links Trafalgar Square to Aldwych in London is called "Strand" but is universally known as The Strand. Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: ellendune on May 28, 2023, 16:12:12 The A580 from Salford to Liverpool is called East Lancashire Road, but is universally known as The East Lancs Road
Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: PrestburyRoad on May 28, 2023, 20:28:53 The elegant road in the centre of Cheltenham is called Promenade but people always refer to it at The Promenade. In this case there is a credible reason, to avoid spoken confusion between "Promenade" (the road) and "promenade" (take a walk). In older times the posh people promenaded on The Promenade, indeed into the early twentieth century a policeman would keep the hoi polloi away from promenading on The Promenade, though they were free to promenade on the nearby High Street.
Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: Red Squirrel on May 29, 2023, 00:14:39 With apologies for going off at a tangent from this tangent (is that possible?): I’m reminded of the tale of a policeman who, on finding a dead body on Philadelphia St in Bristol, dragged it round the corner onto Penn St. Why? Because it was easier to spell.
Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: Bmblbzzz on May 29, 2023, 11:05:47 Google is technically correct, though wrong in this instance. Compare: I'm going to Ireland. He was born in the Republic of Ireland. They eat this in Indonesia. This is from the Philippines.
These rules apply to place names, not necessarily names of things. Street names are a bit different. Gloucester Road is the name of a road, whereas the Gloucester road is the road that goes to Gloucester. It just happens that in the case of the road you (and I) shop on, this happens to be the same thing! Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: Red Squirrel on May 29, 2023, 11:36:44 Street names are a bit different. Gloucester Road is the name of a road, whereas the Gloucester road is the road that goes to Gloucester. It just happens that in the case of the road you (and I) shop on, this happens to be the same thing! I'd agree, except that Cheltenham Road - of which Gloucester Road is a continuation - never gets the definite article. Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: JayMac on June 07, 2023, 07:13:48 For anyone out and about on the Great Western and South Wales Main Lines today...
Flying Scotsman is heading a railtour from London Paddington to Cardiff Central and return today, 7th June 2023. Out: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U66024/2023-06-07/detailed Return: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U66028/2023-06-07/detailed Looks like it's stopping at Pilning for a drink on the outward journey. Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: bobm on June 07, 2023, 21:01:59 A trio of photos as the said loco passed through Bourton east of Swindon on its return trip.
(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/fs1.jpg) (http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/fs2.jpg) (http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/fs3.jpg) Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: TaplowGreen on June 21, 2023, 06:42:32 Another chance to see it.....(Jaymac please sit down before reading & try to stay calm!) :)
https://www.getreading.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/flying-scotsman-visiting-berkshire-next-27140202?fbclid=IwAR2aTvLFrteUESdX4il4iykYe8fvK7nNQxWBNiCeI17f1YPCVNDUemxEYRo Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: GBM on June 21, 2023, 08:51:18 Another chance to see it.....(Jaymac please sit down before reading & try to stay calm!) :) https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U66141/2023-06-21/detailedhttps://www.getreading.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/flying-scotsman-visiting-berkshire-next-27140202?fbclid=IwAR2aTvLFrteUESdX4il4iykYe8fvK7nNQxWBNiCeI17f1YPCVNDUemxEYRo Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: GBM on June 21, 2023, 10:21:04 On time so far, but delaying the already delayed 9N14 Abbey Wood to Maidenhead.
Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: JayMac on June 21, 2023, 11:40:29 Another chance to see it.....(Jaymac please sit down before reading & try to stay calm!) :) https://www.getreading.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/flying-scotsman-visiting-berkshire-next-27140202?fbclid=IwAR2aTvLFrteUESdX4il4iykYe8fvK7nNQxWBNiCeI17f1YPCVNDUemxEYRo Had this item pop up on one of my social media feeds. https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/britain-s-most-famous-train-stops-in-newbury-tomorrow-9317884/#_=_ Grrr. Sitting down now with a nice cuppa and not gonna let the spurious definite articles ruin my day. :P Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: Clan Line on June 21, 2023, 14:28:45 Grrr. Sitting down now with a nice cuppa and not gonna let the spurious definite articles ruin my day. :P THE locomotive in question between Heytesbury and Upton Lovell today. :D (https://i.postimg.cc/GpwKYy4n/JWN03355-ARW-Dx-O-PRIME.jpg) (https://postimages.org/) Title: Re: Flying Scotsman Post by: PhilWakely on June 21, 2023, 22:39:08 .... and passing Bridge 99 on the Kennet and Avon canal between Bedwyn and Crofton
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