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Title: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: woody on April 30, 2008, 09:31:41
I was told the other day that there will be no crosscountry catering west of Plymouth from the start of the new timetable in May,can anyone confirm this.


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: Conner on April 30, 2008, 15:52:38
Seems unlikely as they have the staff for the three runs a day.
Certainly makes sense for the up runs maybe not the down runs so much.


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: devon_metro on April 30, 2008, 16:13:21
I was told the other day that there will be no crosscountry catering west of Plymouth from the start of the new timetable in May,can anyone confirm this.

By who?


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: woody on May 01, 2008, 09:23:21
I was told the other day that there will be no crosscountry catering west of Plymouth from the start of the new timetable in May,can anyone confirm this.

By who?
  Does not matter who, just whether its correct or not thats why I am asking.


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: vacman on May 01, 2008, 11:26:21
Seems unlikely as they have the staff for the three runs a day.
Certainly makes sense for the up runs maybe not the down runs so much.
It makes more sense to cover the up workings than the down!


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: Conner on May 01, 2008, 16:05:29
Seems unlikely as they have the staff for the three runs a day.
Certainly makes sense for the up runs maybe not the down runs so much.
It makes more sense to cover the up workings than the down!
That is what I meant.


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: devon_metro on May 01, 2008, 16:34:03
I was told the other day that there will be no crosscountry catering west of Plymouth from the start of the new timetable in May,can anyone confirm this.

By who?

Because then we have a slight chance of working out how accurate this is!


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: Btline on May 01, 2008, 20:12:17
I was told the other day that there will be no crosscountry catering west of Plymouth from the start of the new timetable in May,can anyone confirm this.

By who?

Because then we have a slight chance of working out how accurate this is!
::)


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: Chris2 on May 22, 2008, 09:42:03
I was told this morning by a member of station staff at St. Austell, that since the timetable changed on the 18th May, there will be no catering west of Plymouth, for an unspecified period, while trains are refurbished for a catering trolley.


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: devon_metro on May 22, 2008, 09:48:53
Wonder if the Monday and Friday 0830 Penzance - Dundee will have it, considering it is worked by an Arriva Cross Country HST which uses a trolley instead of buffet car.


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: jester on May 22, 2008, 10:15:52
I was told on Monday by crosssountry staff, the very same. Not enough money is being taken to keep the buffet service viable past Plymouth. Dont know how this is going to go down when the passengers who have made their travel arrangements already find out.??
The staff themselves dont seem too pleased, after all crosscountry have hardly had any data to measure this by!!


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: devon_metro on May 22, 2008, 10:17:52
Seems fairly suicidal in summer! Trains are packed into Cornwall, how would the shop/buffet make no money??

Same applies for Paignton - I have often boarded a Paignton train at Exeter to find the 'shop' shut! Just when I needed something to eat/drink.


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: Chris2 on May 22, 2008, 10:33:14
http://www.crosscountrytrains.co.uk/YourJourney/OnBoardServices/ShopAndCatering.aspx (http://www.crosscountrytrains.co.uk/YourJourney/OnBoardServices/ShopAndCatering.aspx)

Cross country state that if going to Newquay the shop will stay open but all other services to Penzance will have no catering.


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: Chris2 on May 22, 2008, 10:34:57
There is an article in the St. Austell Voice about the cross country catering situation, but I can not find an online version of the article to post a link.


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: Lee on May 22, 2008, 14:56:08
The RMT are balloting on this and the removal of catering facilities from FGW high-speed trains. (links below.)
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2008/05/rmt_to_ballot_train_staff_at_a.html#more

http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2008/05/rmt_to_ballot_700_fgw_train_st.html#more


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: Btline on May 22, 2008, 17:07:38
Are XC axing buffet cars as well?

I think they are keeping shops on Vomiters though.


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: devon_metro on May 22, 2008, 17:49:28
No Buffet cars and got a feeling the shop is being removed for bike spaces and bike space area will become a trolley store.


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: Btline on May 22, 2008, 17:57:24
No Buffet cars and got a feeling the shop is being removed for bike spaces and bike space area will become a trolley store.

I heard that the leasing company said that they would have to put the shop back at the end of the lease.

So they said that the shop was staying!

I think it is foolish of them to remove the shop. Cross country trains are always overcrowded it seems. People lying in the vestibules, standing in the ailes on all services.

How will a trolly get through?

Mad...


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: devon_metro on May 22, 2008, 18:00:47
The shop is wasteful in terms of the space it takes up though, thus more space for humans and luggage.


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: vacman on May 22, 2008, 22:26:50
No Buffet cars and got a feeling the shop is being removed for bike spaces and bike space area will become a trolley store.

I heard that the leasing company said that they would have to put the shop back at the end of the lease.

So they said that the shop was staying!

I think it is foolish of them to remove the shop. Cross country trains are always overcrowded it seems. People lying in the vestibules, standing in the ailes on all services.

How will a trolly get through?

Mad...
Thats what happens when you replace 7 coach HST's with 4 car DMU's!!!


Title: Re: No crosscountry catering west of Plymouth
Post by: Lee on May 23, 2008, 01:43:48
The RMT are balloting on this and the removal of catering facilities from FGW high-speed trains. (links below.)
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2008/05/rmt_to_ballot_train_staff_at_a.html#more

http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2008/05/rmt_to_ballot_700_fgw_train_st.html#more

Oxford Mail article link.
http://www.oxfordmail.net/news/headlines/display.var.2289621.0.ballot_for_rail_staff.php



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