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Title: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: PhilWakely on August 25, 2022, 20:26:18
There is currently a severe speed restriction between Gillingham (Dorset) and Tisbury which is expected to remain in force at least until the end of the month. Speaking to a TM on an Up service earlier today, apparently the reason for the speed restriction is that the soil beneath the track at one location is so dry it is crumbling and becoming unstable. Only a prolongued spell of rain will improve the situation.

He also suggested - and this is only hearsay - that SWR is likely to re-introduce the emergency timetable comprising a two-hourly service, with all services terminating at Salisbury.

Not good!


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on August 25, 2022, 20:58:36
Just one thing after another on this line. Network Rail Wessex and SWR need to get their acts together.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: IndustryInsider on August 25, 2022, 21:49:23
A lot of routes are suffering with this as a result of the prolonged drought.  Most are just giving a lively ride but lots of TSR’s are now in place and keeping to time is becoming more and more difficult.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on August 25, 2022, 22:08:43
I don't doubt there are lots of similar issues network wide.

It's the time taken to fix them, particulary on secondary routes (although this line is primary for me!) that I take issue with. Desiccation of earthwork assets is hardly a new phenomenon for Network Rail to deal with.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: bradshaw on August 27, 2022, 16:56:30
Email from SWR to SERUG and circulated to members advising of changes to the Waterloo to Exeter service for the next few weeks

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   To SERUG

We are writing to advise you that unfortunately South Western Railway
(SWR) will need to introduce a revised temporary timetable on the West
of England line from the start of September (currently expected to be
5th September), due to a speed restriction on the line in the Tisbury
area in addition to the existing one in the Crewkerne area.

The key points to note are:

   *

Services between Salisbury and Yeovil Junction will continue to run on
an hourly basis to / from London Waterloo but with some journey times
extended and timings at intermediate stations altered
   *

There will continue to be through services between Exeter and London
Waterloo but these will only run every two hours instead of the normal
hourly service (in effect one train every two hours will extend from
Yeovil Junction to / from Exeter)
   *

Journey times between Salisbury and Exeter will also unfortunately be
extended by around an hour

   *

A detailed timetable will be published as soon as possible but requires
review and approval from Network Rail. We will let you know more details
as soon as we can.
   *

The length of the temporary timetable is still to be confirmed but is
expected to continue into October subject to future weather conditions
and Network Rail (NR) being able to carry out mitigation measures.

You may have already seen a stakeholder message from Network Rail
earlier today explaining the problem behind the speed restriction in the
Tisbury area. One of the embankments upon which the track runs is built
on clay and has experienced significant movement and shrinkage due to
the exceptional weather conditions. This in turn has caused problems
with the track.

The speed restriction on this lengthy single line section causes
significant issues for the timetable which you may have experienced in
recent weeks. Unfortunately, this has led to quite lengthy delays on
many services with some station calls needing to be modified as a
result. SWR and NR have decided to introduce the temporary timetable to
provide greater certainty to stakeholders and customers and improve the
reliability of the service.

We will provide more details during the week beginning 29th August
including a more detailed explanation behind the new timetable, a
communications plan (which we will need the support of stakeholders to
help maximise awareness) and information on how we plan to manage
capacity on the available services, particularly recognising the start
of the new school and college terms. There will also be further
information on how the new timetable will be integrated with the
existing planned engineering blockade between Axminster and Pinhoe later
in September

Please accept our apologies for the disruption this will cause. We will
work closely with NR to answer any queries you have in the meantime but
otherwise will provide further information to you as soon as possible.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: PhilWakely on August 27, 2022, 17:23:02
Yet more to add to the argument for adding a dynamic loop in the Whimple area.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: TaplowGreen on August 27, 2022, 17:34:12
I don't doubt there are lots of similar issues network wide.

It's the time taken to fix them, particulary on secondary routes (although this line is primary for me!) that I take issue with. Desiccation of earthwork assets is hardly a new phenomenon for Network Rail to deal with.

As the late Roy Castle was wont to say, Dessication's what you need.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: PhilWakely on August 28, 2022, 12:39:16
Email from SWR to SERUG and circulated to members advising of changes to the Waterloo to Exeter service for the next few weeks

Quote
   To SERUG

We are writing to advise you that unfortunately South Western Railway
(SWR) will need to introduce a revised temporary timetable on the West
of England line from the start of September (currently expected to be
5th September), due to a speed restriction on the line in the Tisbury
area in addition to the existing one in the Crewkerne area.

The key points to note are:

   * Services between Salisbury and Yeovil Junction will continue to run on
an hourly basis to / from London Waterloo but with some journey times
extended and timings at intermediate stations altered

   * There will continue to be through services between Exeter and London
Waterloo but these will only run every two hours instead of the normal
hourly service (in effect one train every two hours will extend from
Yeovil Junction to / from Exeter)

   * Journey times between Salisbury and Exeter will also unfortunately be
extended by around an hour

<snip>

Now that SWR has a depot and stabling point at Yeovil Junction and also has the use of the refuelling point at Exeter St Davids, surely they have enough spare, serviceable units to run a shuttle service between Exeter and Axminster in the paths vacated by those services terminating at Yeovil Junction?


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: ChrisB on August 28, 2022, 13:48:13
Do they gave a crew signing on point at EXD


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: bradshaw on August 28, 2022, 14:01:40
Most services cross another at Tisbury loop, with the down service booked to stop there for the up to pass. With the latter being delayed by the speed restriction the down will always be delayed leaving and the encur further delay as it passes over that section.

The proposed 1hr increase in the time to Exeter will also soak up additional units and crew so there may not be much to spare.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: grahame on August 28, 2022, 15:41:10
Here are what looks like a typical down and up service running from Friday.   Down train left Salisbury pretty much on time, but got held at Tisbury Loop waiting for an up train, and left Tisbury 14 minutes late.  Still 14 late when it got to Honiton, but it had to wait here for half an hour for the train coming the other way, and dragged into Exeter three quarters of an hour late. Up train left Exeter just 3 minutes late, but was 21 late by the time it got to Salisbury - it looks as if the priority is given in the up direction as apart from 5 minutes in the platform at Tisbury it looks like odd minutes dropped all along.

Every cloud has a sliver lining - good to see a 10 minute connection off the Cardiff - Portsmouth train onto the Exeter - Waterloo train at Salisbury.  Is there a lesson for the timetablers there?   Could it be done in the other direction too??

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/drymuledown.jpg)

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/drymuleup.jpg)


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: PhilWakely on August 28, 2022, 19:03:57
Do they gave a crew signing on point at EXD

Yes.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on August 29, 2022, 14:43:03
The emergency timetable will be published on 5th September.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: grahame on August 29, 2022, 17:21:16
A report from a regular traveller from West Wilts to Clapham Junction - good journey up from Trowbridge - change at Salisbury, fairly fast connection into a delayed train up from Exeter.   Every cloud, silver lining  ;D


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: bradshaw on August 29, 2022, 17:40:50
Apparently, Paul Clifton recorded a piece on Friday which will be transmitted tomorrow
https://twitter.com/paulcliftonbbc/status/1564250262751117312?s=21&t=dSS_J8e4IzvqTOmetIv-lQ


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: Alan Pettitt on August 31, 2022, 15:53:02
Over the last few days the delays here (at Axminster) don't seem to be that bad, 20-25 minutes maximum on the Exeter bound services, much better than they were last Friday. Does this really warrant the implementation of a two hourly service next week for a month. Many services yesterday were only delayed by about ten or 12 minutes, not much more than we are used to anyway. My regular travel is from Topsham to Axminster, I can see that from next week my journey will be extended by at least an hour, maybe more, depending on connections at Exeter Central.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: PhilWakely on August 31, 2022, 18:07:07
Over the last few days the delays here (at Axminster) don't seem to be that bad, 20-25 minutes maximum on the Exeter bound services, much better than they were last Friday. Does this really warrant the implementation of a two hourly service next week for a month. Many services yesterday were only delayed by about ten or 12 minutes, not much more than we are used to anyway. My regular travel is from Topsham to Axminster, I can see that from next week my journey will be extended by at least an hour, maybe more, depending on connections at Exeter Central.

The serious delays are west of Honiton. If a westbound service arrives at Honiton 20+ minutes late, then it will be held at Honiton for the eastbound service. Thus it will arrive at Exeter 40+ minutes late. The worst affected services appear to be between 11:30 and 15:30.

Edit to sidestep autoglossary bug - mention of EXC and TOC- grahame

Recent time trains analysis of westbound services at Pinhoe (https://www.recenttraintimes.co.uk/Home/Search?Op=Srch&Fr=Pinhoe+%28PIN%29&To=Exeter+Central+%28EXC%29&TimTyp=A&TimDay=6a3&Days=Al&TimPer=100d&dtFr=&dtTo=&ShwTim=AvAr&MxArCl=20&ShwAdv=ShwAdv&TOC=All&ArrSta=5&MetAvg=Mea&MetSpr=RT&MxScDu=&MxSvAg=35&MnScCt=2)



Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on August 31, 2022, 18:49:17
Press release (https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/long-hot-summer-means-major-changes-to-trains-on-the-west-of-england-line-in-dorset-and-wiltshire-as-dried-out-soil-takes-its-toll-on-tracks) from Network Rail Wessex, 30th August 2022.

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Long, hot summer means major changes to trains on the West of England line in Dorset and Wiltshire as dried-out soil takes its toll on tracks

Region & Route: Southern | Southern: Wessex

Major changes to train services on the West of England main line west of Salisbury have had to be made after a 4-mile long speed restriction was put in place between Gillingham and Tisbury, in Dorset and Wiltshire.

The South of England has endured its driest July since 1936, as well as the hottest temperatures ever recorded, and the impact has now been felt on the railway.

Sections of railway built on clay-based soil, including those around Gillingham, have dried out so badly that they have shrunk, leaving the track on top uneven and dangerous to run trains at full speed.

It is likely that the speed restriction will remain in place until October, as engineers must wait for the soil to regain some of its moisture before a repair can be carried out.

Network Rail’s Head of Track Engineering for Southern Region, Colum Cavanagh, said: “We call this problem Soil Moisture Deficit and although we encounter issues with it most summers, this year has been absolutely unprecedented.

“We came into the hot season with our track in the best condition it’s ever been in, and yet now – late August – the soils around Gillingham have dried so badly the track is only able to take trains running at 40mph, down from 80mph. 

“Normally we would take a piece of kit called a tamper in and sort the track out, a bit like shaking a duvet and getting it flat again. This year the problem is so bad that the soil is still shrinking and it’s going to be some weeks until it has stabilised enough for us to do the work to bring line speeds back up to normal.

“We’re very grateful for everyone’s patience as we know the changes to trains must be frustrating, but the changes are there to keep everyone safe.”

Train services have had to be amended as the line is single – so no trains can pass each other – and trains are taking double the normal length of time to run between Gillingham and Tisbury.

The full revised timetable is currently being finalised and will be published later this week.

Claire Mann, SWR’s Managing Director said: “After two weeks of delays and short-notice changes to our services, this decision to introduce a revised timetable will allow us to run a resilient service and at least provide certainty to our customers in the West of England. I am sorry to all those whose journeys will be affected as we wait for weather conditions to improve so Network Rail can safely remove the speed restriction.”

Mr Cavanagh added: “Based upon a recent reconstruction of a clay embankment at Edenbridge in Kent, if we were to rebuild all 6,000 of our clay embankments with modern materials, it could cost anywhere between £15bn to £20bn and take decades to complete.

“We need to manage with what we’ve got and should summers like this one become the norm, we will need to change the way we work to reflect that. Unfortunately, the people who built the railway to Gillingham in 1859 didn’t realise the impact they would have on us 160 years later building their railways on clay soil."

Some deflecting and irrelevance in that press release. No one is suggesting that all sections of railway on clay based soil need to be replaced. As far as I'm aware, Gillingham - Tisbury is the only place on the network that is so bad as to require a timetable change. There has been weeks of disruption and only now are Network Rail and SWR informing passengers about the cause of that disruptions and what they are doing to affect a fix.

Oh, and "timetable available later this week" is a bit different to "timetable will be published on 5th September" that @SWR_Help told me a few days ago.

Passengers last to be keep in the loop. I'm grateful that NR Wessex have released the above statement, finally giving a full explanation of the problem. But less grateful that the problems have been going on for weeks, with just "speed restriction" given by way of explanation from SWR.



Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: grahame on August 31, 2022, 19:08:07
Some deflecting and irrelevance in that press release. No one is suggesting that all sections of railway on clay based soil need to be replaced. As far as I'm aware, Gillingham - Tisbury is the only place on the network that is so bad as to require a timetable change. There has been weeks of disruption and only now are Network Rail and SWR informing passengers about the cause of that disruptions and what they are doing to affect a fix.

Aren't the serious problems also down to the reduction of the line to a single track for mile after mile and then trying to stuff more trains than it can cope with through?  How much would the delay be if there were only short sections of single line?


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: PhilWakely on August 31, 2022, 19:11:25
Aren't the serious problems also down to the reduction of the line to a single track for mile after mile and then trying to stuff more trains than it can cope with through?  How much would the delay be if there were only short sections of single line?

A point made regularly to SWT and latterly SWR and MPs, but brushed under the carpet!


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: bradshaw on August 31, 2022, 20:54:52

Network Rail Wessex have released this excellent thread on Twitter

https://twitter.com/networkrailwssx/status/1564975272260243456?s=21&t=FV3-1CDM_DE3A11i01ki2g


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: bradshaw on September 01, 2022, 18:29:51
Now something similar seems to have happened between Templecombe and Gillingham, currently all lines blocked
https://twitter.com/networkrailwssx/status/1565390662467461120?s=21&t=RCS8caHXgtG5bWXHUVD92w


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: Timmer on September 01, 2022, 18:47:46
Now something similar seems to have happened between Templecombe and Gillingham, currently all lines blocked
https://twitter.com/networkrailwssx/status/1565390662467461120?s=21&t=RCS8caHXgtG5bWXHUVD92w

From SWR Journeycheck:

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Cancellations to services between Gillingham Dorset and Templecombe

Due to a safety inspection of the track between Gillingham Dorset and Templecombe all lines are blocked.

What's Going On:
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

What We're Doing About It:
A safety inspection of the track is taking place between Gillingham and Templecombe. All lines are now blocked again whilst this is taking place.

Tickets will be accepted at no extra cost on the following services:
- Great Western Railway services between Salisbury and Bristol Temple Meads
- Great Western Railway services between Bath Spa and London Paddington
- Great Western Railway services between London Paddington and Exeter St Davids
- Great Western Railway services between Reading and Basingstoke
- London Underground services between London Waterloo and London Paddington

Replacement buses have also been requested and an update will be provided once they are in place.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on September 01, 2022, 19:05:01
Now something similar seems to have happened between Templecombe and Gillingham, currently all lines blocked
https://twitter.com/networkrailwssx/status/1565390662467461120?s=21&t=RCS8caHXgtG5bWXHUVD92w

I suppose I should be grateful that I got away from Templecombe this afternoon before this latest infrastructure failure.

I am a glutton for punishment from SWR though. Intended train was the 1543 from Templecombe. Destination Milton Keynes for a some mystery shopping gigs. The 1543 was an hour late. When I arrived at the station it was still calling all booked stops. That soon changed to skipping Andover, Woking and Clapham Junction. The latter being my intended first change. About 10 minutes before it showed up the calling pattern was changed again. With the train now terminating at Basingstoke.

Looking at my options, based on the CLPHM NOT LDN fare I held, informed me that I would arrive Milton Keynes over two hours late, past 10pm. Good for a full Delay Repay refund. Bad for evening eats for Finn and I.

I sought out the guard before Basingstoke who, with no fuss or query, issued me with the Authority to Travel via London that I requested. Effectively giving me a free Change of Route Excess from CLPHM NOT LDN to +ANY PERMITTED. Although the bit of paper issued won't work the barriers on the Underground. I'll probably just take the hit for the tube fare on my Oyster. I shall be getting a full refund for the original fare so I think I can stretch to £1.65 for the Zone 1 single.

Top marks to both guards on the heavily delayed 1543 from Templecombe. Excellent PA announcements. All the interactions I saw between them and paasengers were faultless. A++

D- though to the dispatcher and information desk staffer at Basingstoke. They gave the impression they'd rather have been anywhere else than on their shifts today. Yes, they were having to deal with many frustrated passengers, and constantly changing train information (problems up from Weymouth and Portsmouth too) but that doesn't excuse snapping at folk or making sarcastic manual PA announcements.

Approaching Waterloo as I finish this missive. Hopefully the piece of paper I have in addition to my ticket sees me waived through at Waterloo and Euston. Avanti staff at Euston do have a 'jobsworth' reputatuon so, wish me luck...


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on September 01, 2022, 22:20:03
Dunno what I was worried about. Barely a second glance at my Authority to Travel at any gateline. Even Underground. Didn't use Oyster after all. I'd left it at home!


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on September 02, 2022, 11:50:31
Another day, another round of disruption. No trains between Salisbury and Yeovil for most of the morning.

Infrastructure falling apart.

From Network Rail Wessex internal:
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WICC: Alert Message UPGRADED RED: Tisbury- Yeovil Junction- Multiple Suspected Track Defects


Initial Advice
UPGRADED RED: Tisbury- Yeovil Junction- Multiple Suspected Track Defects
Report of a suspected track defect via the driver of 1L09 (0738 Salisbury - Exeter St Davids 0944) in the Gillingham area, on the single line. As a result the line is blocked, 1L26 (0640 Exeter St Davids - Basingstoke 0928) is currently at a stand in Gillingham (Dorset) station. This service will be sent back to Yeovil Junction where it will terminate. A time out has been arranged for 0845 to discuss the train service. Salisbury MOM has been advised with an ETA of 1 hour.

Current Reports:
1L09 reports track defect at Gillingham (Dorset)- Tisbury- vicinity of SE4673 signal (103m 73ch)
1L24 reports track defect in the vicinity of Gillingham (Dorset)- Tisbury at 102m 60ch.
1L09 reports a track defect at Yeovil Junction- 123m 60ch- down direction.
2Z26 reports a kink A kink at Hunts Path no 1 Crossing (103m 45ch).
Two kinks at 102m 40ch.


Update 1122-
No buses have been supplied for Exeter at this time.
TME has arrived on site 102M 50CH - they will walk up now and begin taking their line blockages.
Pway SM is waiting at Yeovil Junction, to ride empties once the driver completes his PNB at 1230.

Update 1028-
Tactical/ Time out required at 1000
Attendees- SNDM, NDM, DCM,ICEM, SDC, GWRTRSC, SC

Situation-
We currently have had four reports of track defects/ kinks as follows:
1L09 reports track defect at Gillingham (Dorset)- Tisbury- vicinity of SE4673 signal (103m 73ch)
1L24 reports track defect in the vicinity of Gillingham (Dorset)- Tisbury at 102m 60ch.
1L09 reports a track defect at Yeovil Junction- 123m 60ch- down direction.
2Z26 reports a kink A kink at Hunts Path no 1 Crossing (103m 45ch).
Two kinks at 102m 40ch.

As such we are BLOCKED from Salisbury- Gillingham.
PWAY Level 2 will be on site at 1045.
PWAY Section manager is aboard 1L36 (0925 Exeter St Davids- London Waterloo 1249) where he will leave the service and await 5L32 to examine the line.

Train Service Plan:
Currently SWR are running a full service diverting via Westbury in both directions.

It is now priority to look at running a service every two hours in both directions to mitigate the possibility of meeting capacity via Westbury.
As well as preventing a possible crewing issue, with the diversion adding time/ altering their schedule.

Crews/ Stations-
Not serving Salisbury- Yeovil, buses requested.

Customer Message-
5 Buses ordered to cover Salisbury- Yeovil.
3 at Salisbury.
Look to recruit further but later in the day but on an as need basis.

Message planned for disruption till end of day.
Due to a speed restriction over defective track between Salisbury and Yeovil Junction trains have to run at reduced speed on all lines.

What's Going On:
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 09/09/22.

What We're Doing About It:
There is currently a speed restriction over defective track between Salisbury and Yeovil Junction. This means that trains have to run at reduced speed in both directions through these stations.

As a result of these restrictions, there will be a revised timetable operating on the West of England line from Monday 5th September.

The timetable will be available from later this week but if you are intending to travel on this route after Monday 5th September, you should check your journey before you travel as journey times will be extended and some services will not operate.

For further information or onward travel advice, please speak to a member of staff or use a station help point.

Please accept our apologies for the disruption to your journey.

Further call at 1200.

I'm informed that there's one tiny sliver of light. The buses are keeping to time!


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on September 02, 2022, 12:55:05
Boots on the ground inspections have been completed. Route proving is underway, as of 1230 with an ECS service from Yeovil Junction to Tisbury and return.

It's likely that the Emergency Speed Restriction between Gillingham and Tisbury will be reduced from 40mph to 20mph. Hopefully that won't effect the emergency timetable due to published shortly


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on September 02, 2022, 14:09:47
The emergency timetable has now been uploaded to online journey planners. As expected, from tomorrow, its a two hourly service between Exeter to Waterloo. Alternate hours between Yeovil Junction and Waterloo.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: bradshaw on September 02, 2022, 14:53:22
Saturday revised tt on RTT sees alt hours EXD to WAT via Westbury with the other hour being EXD to GIL, presumably bus to Salisbury for connection.

Similar on Sunday with buses from Yeovil to Salisbury

From Monday there is the hourly Yeovil service with alt hours to Exeter


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: Fourbee on September 02, 2022, 17:01:58
Dunno what I was worried about. Barely a second glance at my Authority to Travel at any gateline. Even Underground. Didn't use Oyster after all. I'd left it at home!

I've never seen an Authority to Travel before; what form/layout does it take?


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: grahame on September 02, 2022, 18:05:52
It's likely that the Emergency Speed Restriction between Gillingham and Tisbury will be reduced from 40mph to 20mph. Hopefully that won't effect the emergency timetable due to published shortly

It's about 9 miles ... so that puts up the run time from around 10 minutes to 30 minutes if the restriction is the whole way between the two. .


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: bradshaw on September 02, 2022, 18:23:44
Engineering allowances in timetable
Tisbury to Gillingham 7 min
Gillinham to Templecombe 8 min
Yeovil Jct to Crewkerne 6 minutes


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: grahame on September 02, 2022, 19:52:16
And in contrast:

From Manchester Evening New (https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/trains-cancelled-lines-closed-after-24916905)

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Trains cancelled and lines closed after thousands of gallons of water submerges tracks


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on September 02, 2022, 20:12:55
I've never seen an Authority to Travel before; what form/layout does it take?

Catch all phrase for anything in writing from a member of railway staff allowing travel other than that permitted by tickets already held.

In my case a 'Back on Track Voucher' from SWR:

(https://i.ibb.co/r7StdQQ/aviary-image-1662147639858.jpg)


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 03, 2022, 03:31:51
This may be a stupid question but ... if this is a geological problem why does it not affect other lines where this clay outcrops? Which should be all the way round the western edge of the chalk.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: bradshaw on September 03, 2022, 08:19:19
Now a track fault at Yeovil PM has blocked the line to Westbury so SWR only running to Junction, while Weymouth line running to Pen Mill, and Castle cary to Westbury.
Buses inbetween

Tracksy shows a T3 possession at Tisbury, presumably the reason behind the plan to go via Westbury.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: Timmer on September 03, 2022, 08:45:41
Now a track fault at Yeovil PM has blocked the line to Westbury so SWR only running to Junction, while Weymouth line running to Pen Mill, and Castle cary to Westbury.
Buses inbetween

Tracksy shows a T3 possession at Tisbury, presumably the reason behind the plan to go via Westbury.

It never rains but it pours…
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Alterations to services between Salisbury and Yeovil Junction

Due to a safety inspection of the track between Salisbury and Yeovil Junction the line via Westbury is blocked.

What's Going On:
Train services running through these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 12:00 03/09.

What We're Doing About It:
We have been informed of a track defect at Yeovil Pen Mill, this means that trains are unable to run between Yeovil Junction and Salisbury via Yeovil Pen Mill. We have replacement bus services due to planned engineering work running between Yeovil Junction and Salisbury via Tisbury.
We have requested additional replacement buses to run non-stop between Yeovil Junction and Salisbury.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: grahame on September 03, 2022, 09:00:45
Now a track fault at Yeovil PM has blocked the line to Westbury so SWR only running to Junction, while Weymouth line running to Pen Mill, and Castle cary to Westbury.
Buses inbetween

The two trains that were due to pass at Yeovil Pen Mill at around 07:30 turned around into each other's paths - from Weymouth up to Yeovil Pen Mill went back to Weymouth and at Castle Cary from Westbury back via Westbury.  Operationally sensible; I wonder about how it was from a passenger viewpoint - whether through passengers were bussed quickly enough to make it.  Noting the Yeovil to Weymouth service set off 17 minutes late ...


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on September 03, 2022, 09:47:33
Network Rail saying, as of 0846, that normal running between Pen Mill and Castle Cary has resumed.

I'm just about to head home to Templecombe from Milton Keynes. Wish me luck!


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: grahame on September 03, 2022, 13:56:44
I'm just about to head home to Templecombe from Milton Keynes. Wish me luck!

Hmm ... if I was going there, I wouldn't be starting from here  ;D

Direct route - X5 bus to Oxford, S6 bus to Swindon, then train changing at Westbury and Yeovil (one or both stations).


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on September 03, 2022, 17:14:43
I'm just about to head home to Templecombe from Milton Keynes. Wish me luck!

Hmm ... if I was going there, I wouldn't be starting from here  ;D

Direct route - X5 bus to Oxford, S6 bus to Swindon, then train changing at Westbury and Yeovil (one or both stations).

Despite what RealTime Trains and some online journey planners were saying, the diverted SWR services weren't making passnger calls at Westbury. Doors kept closed. Taking your suggestion would actually have meant:

X5 to Oxford
S6 to Swindon
GWR to Westbury
GWR to Yeovil Pen Mill
Local bus to Yeovil Junction
Rail Replacement Bus to Templecombe. Or SWR Exeter - Gillingham shuttle train if timings worked out.

And all at additional cost bearing in mind I'd already purchased a TMC-MKC Off Peak Return.

Journey tale of woe to follow...


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on September 03, 2022, 17:48:24
My return from Milton Keynes to Templecombe went smoothly.

... until I got into SWR land of course.

Two choices today once I got to Clapham Junction. Train to Salisbury, then Rail Replacement to Gillingham, then train to Templecombe. Or, train to Yeovil Junction (via Westbury) then Rail Replacement to Templecombe.

After conferring with the guard on the 1157 from CLJ, I settled on the second option as it was one less change. Guard called ahead to YVJ to check if Finn would be allowed on the Rail Replacement service. Answer came back affirmative.

Arrived at YVJ and headed to waiting coach. A nice Mercedes Benz executive jobby. "Sorry, I can't take dogs" says driver. "Please" says I. Driver calls his boss. Answer remains no. Incidentally coach came from Slough to do the RRB duties today.

Back to speak to ticket office clerk on the station. It wasn't him who took the call from the guard on the train from CLJ. Previous shift clerk. Who presumably talked to a different RRB driver, who may very well have been from a different bus/coach company. Good customer service would have had clerk clocking off do a handover to colleague explaining the call they'd taken. In my years in hospitality I would never end a shift without handing over unresolved customer service issues.

So now I'm looking at a near two hour wait for the next Exeter-Gillingham SWR shuttle train service, or hoping clerk can arrange a taxi. He calls control to see about taxi They say at least two hours to get one to Yeovil Junction. Seems they don't hire locally.

I'm well aware of the difficulties SWR are facing at the moment due to Network Rail's failure to maintain the line between Salisbury and Exeter, but SWR need to seriously up their customer service game during this disruption. There was no additional staff member at Yeovil Junction to assist the clerk with the RRBs. That's unacceptable. Managers should be getting off their asses and helping out the frontline staff.

I was close to losing my temper. That's not a good thing and I recognised that taking out my frustrations on the poor put upon clerk or the RRB driver would have got me nowhere. I took a walk down the approach road and shouted a stream of expletives into the air to relieve some tension.

I go back to the clerk, who is now talking to the coach driver. Both make calls. Outcome is Finn is allowed to board. Yay!

Coach driver leaves on time. Stops in Sherborne for 20 minutes to get something to eat and drink. Requires directions from me to Templecombe station. His snack break ruins any chance of any passengers on board wanting to make the scheduled connection at Salisbury for Andover, Basingstoke, Woking, Clapham or Waterloo. Idiot.

But, at least I got home. Feeling sorry for those continuing eastward though. A few more passengers that SWR have pissed off today.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: grahame on September 03, 2022, 18:40:56
And all at additional cost bearing in mind I'd already purchased a TMC-MKC Off Peak Return.

Indeed - but is shouldn't be additional cost.  Public transport tickets valid via any reasonable route, and that means any reasonable route on the day.   Hopefully sorting out that sort of thing will be one of the first actions of a united GBR - bringing all trains and local bus services (those on with ENCTS cards are valid) under the same fare and connection guarantee / compensation scheme.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on September 03, 2022, 19:05:42
Indeed - but is shouldn't be additional cost.  Public transport tickets valid via any reasonable route, and that means any reasonable route on the day.   Hopefully sorting out that sort of thing will be one of the first actions of a united GBR - bringing all trains and local bus services (those on with ENCTS cards are valid) under the same fare and connection guarantee / compensation scheme.

That's not GBR. That's Utopia. Or a chemically induced fever dream. ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: Fourbee on September 04, 2022, 17:42:08
And all at additional cost bearing in mind I'd already purchased a TMC-MKC Off Peak Return.

Indeed - but is shouldn't be additional cost.  Public transport tickets valid via any reasonable route, and that means any reasonable route on the day.   Hopefully sorting out that sort of thing will be one of the first actions of a united GBR - bringing all trains and local bus services (those on with ENCTS cards are valid) under the same fare and connection guarantee / compensation scheme.

Totally agree Graham. That was what prompted me to ask JayMac about the Authority to Travel on the outbound leg. My understanding is Back on Track vouchers generally are not used to authorise travel on other TOCs, including London Underground - but I'm pleased they were passed without muster at the relevant points.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: Alan Pettitt on September 05, 2022, 11:17:42
I was aiming to catch the 0559 this morning (Monday 5th) from Axminster to Exeter having changed my plans somewhat due to the new "Reliable Timetable". Not quite reliable enough though, first westbound train of the new timetable, cancelled.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on September 06, 2022, 15:04:47
From a quick scan of RTT it looks like things ran relatively well yesterday (05/09/2022) under the emergency timetable.

Likewise today. The additional engineering allowances have certainly helped. There's now a TSR between Templecombe and Gillingham Tunnel too. Noticed that as I boarded the 1427 this afternoon (06/09)


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: bradshaw on September 06, 2022, 15:21:25
Looking at yesterday, it seems that the engineering allowance between Crewkerne and Yeovil meant that trains still took only 9 minutes between the stations rather than the 15 allowed.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on September 06, 2022, 19:05:48
When you're running an emergency timetable the last thing you need is a cocking idiot HGV driver who doesn't know the height of his load.

Bridge strike Templecombe. Whilst the line was reopened fairly promptly (within 1 hour) the knock on effects to train running will last well into the evening.

It's often just 3 or 6 points and a small fine for these sorts of driving offences. It should be a ban as a minimum.

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Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: bobm on September 06, 2022, 20:37:02
Ha. You should worry. Round here motorists can’t get back to their driveways tonight due to unannounced broadband works.  They can leave but to get back they need to drive the wrong way down a one way street!


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on September 06, 2022, 22:40:08
Arrived back in Templecombe 8 minutes early tonight! Wowzers! 2149 versus 2157.

Yes, that's against the emergency timetable, and after a 14 minute wait at Gillingham, but I was pleased. I was able to pop into the Co-op to grab a few essentials before it shut at 10pm. You know the sort of thing - alcohol, tobacco, caffeine. :P

There was a bit of a slalom course between the station approach and the High St though. Recovery of the bridge bashing HGV was still ongoing. Whilst the railway quickly reopened (praise be that the MOM was already in the area this afternoon) the main road through Templecombe (A357) is still closed as of 10pm. As I left the Co-op, the damaged trailer and its HIAB lifter crane were just being driven away. However, the bash had severed the HIAB's hydraulic lines, spilling its hydraulic oil all over the road. This was still being cleaned up. I spoke with the site supervisor who said they hoped to be done by midnight.

Due to the proximity of a watercourse they've also had Environmental Health on site. They're returning tomorrow to check the culvert that runs under the road and railway. If there's any pollution that will no doubt add to the driver and his employer's woes.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: grahame on September 06, 2022, 22:45:59
Arrived back in Templecombe 8 minutes early tonight! Wowzers! 2149 versus 2157.

Yes, that's against the emergency timetable, and after a 14 minute wait at Gillingham, but I was pleased. I was able to pop into the Co-op to grab a few essentials before it shut at 10pm. You know the sort of thing - alcohol, tobacco, caffeine. :P

So let's get this right - you're drinking tonight because your train was early?


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on September 06, 2022, 22:49:30
So let's get this right - you're drinking tonight because your train was early?

Isn't that reason enough for a drink or two? Damn rare occurrence in these parts of late! Cheers! :P

To be fair, there was Finn food, bread, milk and bacon too. Breakfast sorted for the pup and I without having to pop round to the corner shop first thing.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: grahame on September 07, 2022, 08:14:35
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:Y66678/2022-09-06/detailed#allox_id=0

I took a look at some examples on Real Time Trains ... the above being yesterday's 10:20 Waterloo to Exeter, due there at 14:42  and it arrived on time.   And yet it was 43 minutes late off Salisbury.  Is this a record amount of time for a scheduled passenger train to recover en route?


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: rogerpatenall on September 07, 2022, 08:54:44
Reading the above prompts me to throw in an (almost) unrelated question. When did Buckhorn Weston Tunnel become Gillingham Tunnel? And was any reason given?


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on September 07, 2022, 15:29:53
Reading the above prompts me to throw in an (almost) unrelated question. When did Buckhorn Weston Tunnel become Gillingham Tunnel? And was any reason given?

Since at least December 2009 according to Network Rail's Wessex Sectional Appendix:
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EDIT: I've found a document from 1963 where the tunnel is also called Gillingham Tunnel. It would appear that this has always been its official name. Possibly with the (Dorset) modifier in the past.
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Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: stuving on September 07, 2022, 18:14:17
Reading the above prompts me to throw in an (almost) unrelated question. When did Buckhorn Weston Tunnel become Gillingham Tunnel? And was any reason given?

It was always called Gillingham Tuinnel in news reports, right back to 1846. That was of course several years before it was built, and those reports would have been quoting from company statements or railway bills.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: bradshaw on September 09, 2022, 08:48:28
SWR report on Twitter that the Line is blocked between Wimple and Cranbrook due to safety inspection of track.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: bradshaw on September 19, 2022, 14:31:33
Looking at RTT for this week, 19th onwards, it seems the full timetable has been restored.
No doubt this will be discussed at the SERUG agm on the 22nd. I should be there.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: infoman on September 21, 2022, 18:55:45
BBC south west local news is showing some film footage of the honiton tunnel construction site,available for 24 hours only on i-player.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: bradshaw on October 26, 2022, 16:12:33
SERUG have just emailed their member to inform then of the restoration of the normal timetable will take place from Monday 14 November. NR Southern Region have also announvpced closure dates for engineering improvements

Quote
   NETWORK RAIL SOUTHERN REGION

WEST OF ENGLAND LINE

26 October 2022

Dear Stakeholders

_Lifting speed restrictions on the West of England line _

As you will be aware, speed restrictions of 40mph were brought in this
summer at locations near Tisbury, Gillingham and Axminster, as the
clay-based track bed shrank in the record-breaking hot and dry summer,
leaving the rails uneven and too bumpy for trains to run at full speed.
This caused significant disruption to services in August and required
the introduction of a new temporary timetable between Salisbury and
Exeter from early September.

The cause of the speed restrictions on the line is known as Soil
Moisture Deficit and is caused by largely clay-based soils shrinking in
hot and dry conditions as trees and other vegetation soaks the water
from them. They shrink unevenly, meaning track laid on top loses its
level profile.

Engineers have made good progress in restoring the track levels, helped
by cooler temperatures and regular rain which has stopped the track bed
shrinking. We are now in a position to lift the majority of the speed
restrictions which were imposed, and as a result, South Western Railway
(SWR) plans to restore the regular timetable on the West of England line
from Monday 14 November.

We would like to thank all our stakeholders and passengers for their
patience throughout this period.

Looking Ahead

We wanted to take this opportunity to give you advance notice of a
series of upcoming engineering works within the next 18 months to
improve the railway on the West of England line. Firstly, a nine-day
closure between Salisbury and Yeovil Junction between 10th and 18th
December will allow us to replace track in the Gillingham area.

Making the most of the closure, our engineers will also carry out
station improvements at Gillingham and Sherborne; improve drainage in
the Sherborne, Templecombe and Gillingham areas; perform track
maintenance in the Gillingham and Sherborne areas; and remove graffiti
and clear litter from the line at Salisbury.

Further closures are planned in November/December 2023 and March 2024,
with the Axminster, Crewkerne, Templecombe and Gillingham areas all set
to see improvement works.

We will continue keep stakeholders updated on these works, along with
the associated journey information together with our colleagues at SWR.

Kind regards

Southern Region Stakeholder Team


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on October 26, 2022, 23:15:30
Thanks for posting those update details bradshaw. Travelling to and from Templecombe hasn't been much fun for the past few months.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: bradshaw on October 27, 2022, 08:24:10
Chris Loder mentioned the increased times to the, now previous, Transport Secretary at the recent Select Committee meeting. He was asking the questions that the railway press have been on about for the last few months/years.
Can be viewed here, scroll to around 10.00

https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/7747fc01-0153-41f9-8c47-244cfa23d335


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on November 14, 2022, 11:57:36
Today, 14th November 2022, the normal timetable has resumed for services between London Waterloo and Exeter St Davids. There have been some minor delays between Salisbury and Axminster this morning.

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Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: Mark A on November 14, 2022, 12:36:42
Today, 14th November 2022, the normal timetable has resumed for services between London Waterloo and Exeter St Davids.

Exeter Central at 5:25pm on Thursday 10th November. The London-bound platform looking suitably busy as a six carriage train hauled itself into the station. Exeter was home to a singular bridge engineer, Bill Harvey, and I was returning from his memorial service.

Checking the photo, the platform's not as full as impressions at the time suggested - though it's busier towards the far end, which might offer clues as to where these homeward bound people are headed. Much of the train as it arrived looked to be already 50% full, with the rear two carriages rather emptier. The station's public spaces good, tidy, busy. Booking office open, & retail in the units at the front of the station.

Exeter Central is a station that must have come nearer than most to a future in which, heading for a train, one would walk along Queen Street, past the former booking hall block, and on crossing the bridge over what was once the frankly terrible connection to St Davids  cast a quick glance at the blocks of flats on Exeter's once extensive station - 'Central' both in name and geographically.

Mark

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Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: paul7575 on November 21, 2022, 11:49:18
Reports of another landslip at Honiton with service curtailed at Axminster for rest of today, it’s on NRES but no real info about the severity of the issue.

Paul


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: Timmer on November 21, 2022, 11:57:35
Reports of another landslip at Honiton with service curtailed at Axminster for rest of today, it’s on NRES but no real info about the severity of the issue.

Paul
Picture of said landslip on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/NetworkRailWssx/status/1594658009938276354?s=20&t=zVjdJMA49ai1sHp6WhZkVg


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: plymothian on November 21, 2022, 13:28:53
Extremely bad news today.  The last London bound train via GWR leaves Exeter at 16.15.  Anyone looking to escape the south west, would have a very circuitous route of changing at Westbury and again at Sailsbury.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: Mark A on November 21, 2022, 15:05:22
Reports of another landslip at Honiton with service curtailed at Axminster for rest of today, it’s on NRES but no real info about the severity of the issue.

Paul
Picture of said landslip on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/NetworkRailWssx/status/1594658009938276354?s=20&t=zVjdJMA49ai1sHp6WhZkVg

And another:

https://twitter.com/NetworkRailWssx/status/1594689852083425280


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: AMLAG on November 21, 2022, 20:39:52

What has been deposited on the Single line seems not be a bank slip but quarry material/crushed stone brought in by lorries ( from a fair distance away) to form the NR Contractors’ site compound and access tracks above and to the London end of Honiton Tunnel.

The NR PR ‘Spin’ seems to be a bit misleading.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: bradshaw on November 21, 2022, 20:58:45
NR now saying line closed to end of service Tuesday 22 Nov
https://twitter.com/sw_help/status/1594792076255830023?s=61&t=RG_ULKq0mfWDLF-FW_yAHA

They have also posted this photo showing the slipped material and it looks like material brought in rather than native rock.
https://twitter.com/networkrailwssx/status/1594762832318431232?s=61&t=RG_ULKq0mfWDLF-FW_yAHA


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: PhilWakely on November 22, 2022, 10:06:41
All credit to SWR as they ran an ECS to Honiton in order to run a commuter service from Honiton to Exeter in the path of the usual 1L03 (06:10 Salisbury to Exeter St Davids). Unfortunately, it appears to have encountered problems between Pinhoe and Feniton as the ECS arrived in Honiton some 37 minutes late - but still in time to turn around as 1Z03 (07:52 Honiton to Exeter St Davids).

Sadly, all good intentions seem to have faded as 1Z03 left Honiton some 75 minutes late and ran virtually empty to Exeter.


*** Edit --  Apparently due to a train fault. A six-car went out, but only a 3-car returned! ***


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on November 22, 2022, 15:50:34
Honiton Tunnel reopened at 1400 today, with a 20mph ESR.

Knock on delays and cancellations, particularly to up services, due to staff and rolling stock displacement. First up service from Exeter St Davids to London Waterloo is due to be the 1625.



Edit. 1L60 1525 EXD-WAT is now starting from Exeter Central. Due to depart nearly an hour late at 1629.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on November 24, 2022, 08:27:04
There will be a further line closure at Honiton this weekend, 26th/27th November, for continuing landslip repairs and planned maintenance.

Train services will run between Axminster and London Waterloo, with buses between Axminster and Exeter.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: AMLAG on November 24, 2022, 15:46:36

This Sat 26/11 there is also a TRAIN shuttle service from Exeter St D to Honiton and back,
 every two hours first 0731 and last 1737 from St D, calling all stns.

The only passenger trains planned to run SW of Bristol TM on Sat 26/11.


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: GBM on November 26, 2022, 12:32:43
I note a few/several 3sxx running around, listed as Totton Yard to Totton Yard.
Wondered if they were railhead treatment trains, or perhaps carrying spoil away from Axminster?


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: PhilWakely on November 26, 2022, 13:04:27
I note a few/several 3sxx running around, listed as Totton Yard to Totton Yard.
Wondered if they were railhead treatment trains, or perhaps carrying spoil away from Axminster?

The RHTT


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on December 13, 2022, 21:40:57
Most of the extremities of the SWR network have no service during the strikes. But, thanks to the planned engineering works between Salisbury and Yeovil (10th-18th December) there are rail replacement buses running despite the strikes.

Small mercies. Unless you are a dog owner of course. I decided against attempting a journey to Sherborne on the RRBs today. Took the scheduled bus service instead. 2.5x the 'rail' fare.

Thanks Mr Lynch. ::)


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: Alan Pettitt on January 04, 2023, 17:07:09
Just been chatting to my favourite signaller earlier this afternoon in the pub, she could only have one pint because she's working tomorrow, she couldn't understand why it is that the strike shouldn't affect us tomorrow (Thursday) but there will still not be any trains running in Axminster, seems that the ASLEF strike does not affect SWR, any ideas?


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: ChrisB on January 04, 2023, 17:10:04
Yep - their drivers didn't vote for a strike (but action short of that, I think)


Title: Re: More bad news for travellers between Salisbury and Exeter
Post by: JayMac on February 01, 2023, 22:00:13
So much for SWR avoiding strike disruption today, 1st February 2023.

They were stating that they intended to run a full service on the mainland today. Good intentions but...

I went to Gillingham late afternoon to do some shopping. When I left Templecombe at 1643 trains were running pretty much to schedule. Did my shopping with the intention of getting the 1752 back from Gillingham. Cancelled. As was the 1819 and 1852. The 1920 and 1954 from Gillingham were also shown as cancelled from London Waterloo (1723, 1753) and were only belatedly reinstated to run from Salisbury at the last minute. Both were still showing as cancelled at Gillingham by the time I was making my way home by alternative means.

After the 1752 from Gillingham was cancelled, I retired to the pub to keep an eye on when I might next get a train over a pint. Three pints later, and after a call to SWR who said get a taxi at their expense, I got a cab home at 1915. Out of my own pocket with no idea if and when SWR will reimburse me.

Lesson learnt. Don't take a TOC at their word when they say they intend to run a full service. Intent versus reality was at odds today.



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