Title: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 12, 2023, 09:53:56 Today we have problems with flooding at Ledbury.
04:49 Hereford - Paddington got through OK. 05:23 Hereford - Paddington got through OK. Two West Midlands Trains services from Shrub Hill to Hereford got through OK. But 06:40 Hereford - Paddington gave up at Ledbury. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on January 12, 2023, 10:28:18 Quote 09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:24 09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:12/01/2023 07:04 Not a good day Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 12, 2023, 10:50:32 Empty stock of 06:40 Hereford - Paddington now on its way to Bristol Temple Meads via Worcester.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 12, 2023, 10:54:54 Quote 09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:24 09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:12/01/2023 07:04 Not a good day Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on January 24, 2023, 11:06:54 Quote 09:50 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:44 has been cancelled. This is due to trespassers on the railway. Last Updated:24/01/2023 10:08 Quote 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:24 will be cancelled. This is due to trespassers on the railway earlier today. Last Updated:24/01/2023 10:09 Great - 140+ miles of railway appears to to be trespassed upon for a period of almost three hours. Seems to me that any old excuse will do to cancel a service on the OWW these days It'd be interesting to work out what percentage of the times this Hereford service doesn't reach Hereford - I think it would be quite high. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on January 24, 2023, 11:09:01 Quote 08:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 11:14 08:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 11:14 will be terminated at Worcester Foregate Street. It will no longer call at Malvern Link and Great Malvern. It has been delayed previously and is now 38 minutes late from Kingham. This is due to trespassers on the railway. Last Updated:24/01/2023 10:52 Yet another short working Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on January 24, 2023, 11:13:04 Short workings happen all over the network, generally on long-distance services that have single-line sections. Restricts (very) late running/cancellation to just one or two services usually rather than lasting all day - and where stock from one line-of-route is then used on a different line-of-route, prevents delays/canx spreading across the network.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 24, 2023, 12:25:24 Realtime Trains has different explanations about what happened this morning, with no mention of trespassers:
05:23 Hereford - Paddington. Positioning journey from Bristol Parkway started 40 late and arrived 34 late. Started 17 late from Hereford, missed its path at Charlbury. 45 late from Charlbury (at 07:56), 62 late at Hanborough, 83 late at Oxford. Cancelled after that "due to a problem with the traction equipment". Due into Paddington at 08:24. 06:43 Shrub Hill - Paddington. Held at Evesham, left there 20 late. Arrived Charlbury 30 late, left 58 late (at 08:31). +60 at Oxford, progressively later after Reading. Into Paddington +90 (due 08:42). 07:01 Shrub Hill - Didcot halts train. Held at Evesham. Left there 18 late. Arrived Charlbury +37, left +52. Arrived Oxford +54. Cancelled after that. 06:40 Hereford - Paddington. Cancelled between Hereford and Oxford "due to the signalbox not being open". On time from Oxford, but progessively later after Reading. Into Paddington +29. 08:13 Shrub Hill - Paddington. On time from Shrub Hill. Into Charlbury on time (at 09:08) but left 17 late. Lost more time approaching Paddington - arrived 28 late. 08:56 Great Malvern - Paddington. Cancelled between Great Malvern and Shrub Hill "due to the signalbox not being open". Lost time approaching Paddington - arrived 18 late. 09:54 Great Malvern - Paddington. Cancelled between Great Malvern and Shrub Hill "due to late arrival of inbound service". 05:50 Paddington - Great Malvern. Cancelled between Shrub Hill and Great Malvern "due to the signalbox not being open". Forms 08:56 above. 06:50 Paddington - Great Malvern. Cancelled between Shrub Hill and Great Malvern "due to late arrival of inbound service". Forms 09:54 above. 07:50 Paddington - Great Malvern. On time at Oxford. +15 at Wolvercote Junction, +27 at Charlbury, +30 into Shrub Hill. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on January 24, 2023, 16:07:14 And a couple more cancellations:
Quote 16:58 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:24 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. 19:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:24 will be cancelled. Last Updated:24/01/2023 15:50 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: grahame on January 24, 2023, 16:32:34 Short workings happen all over the network, generally on long-distance services that have single-line sections. Restricts (very) late running/cancellation to just one or two services usually rather than lasting all day - and where stock from one line-of-route is then used on a different line-of-route, prevents delays/canx spreading across the network. Yes, but they are just helping to mitigate the symptoms when something has gone wrong and not addressing the root cause. If the root causes can be fixed most of the time, there would be little need to treat symptoms. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on January 24, 2023, 17:09:45 Indeed, I agree.
I was referring to why the services were cut short of their destinations Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on January 25, 2023, 10:12:48 I think the "service" on the OWW these days completely lives up to the worse and worse handle. It's not much short of a total p*** take.
Yesterday's 1658 Paddington to Great Malvern was cancelled throughout, on a day of several other cancellations Quote This service is cancelled. [/i]This service was cancelled due to the planned train being replaced with a slower train (MS) (Realtime Trains) Tell me this isn't just taking the mick Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on January 25, 2023, 20:44:27 Quote 18:58 London Paddington to Hereford due 22:04 18:58 London Paddington to Hereford due 22:04 was terminated at Didcot Parkway. It will no longer call at Oxford, Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link, Great Malvern, Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford. This is due to a safety inspection of the track. Last Updated:25/01/2023 20:10 Quote 19:50 London Paddington to Hereford due 22:58 19:50 London Paddington to Hereford due 22:58 will be diverted between Reading and Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Oxford, Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore and Worcestershire Parkway Hl but will call additionally at Didcot Parkway. It is being delayed between Reading and Worcester Shrub Hill and is now expected to be 25 minutes late. This is due to a safety inspection of the track. Last Updated:25/01/2023 20:31 Quote Cancellations to services between Oxford and Didcot Parkway Due to a safety inspection of the track between Oxford and Didcot Parkway all lines are blocked. Train services running through these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until the end of the day. Customer Advice Chiltern Railways are conveying passengers via any reasonable route until further notice. London Underground are conveying passengers via any reasonable route until further notice. CrossCountry are conveying passengers via any reasonable route until further notice. Last Updated:25/01/2023 20:38 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on January 25, 2023, 20:53:04 Major track faultbetween Oxford & Didcot - all lines closed
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on January 25, 2023, 21:18:58 Major track faultbetween Oxford & Didcot - all lines closed Nuneham Bridge near Culham has been slowly sinking into the banks of the Thames for years. A 50mph speed limit became 20mph a few weeks ago, but a driver reported a rough ride even at that speed so it’ll need an inspection before reopening and it’s in the middle of nowhere! Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Mark A on January 25, 2023, 21:26:38 Is it ok if I be slightly alarmed by this...
Mark Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Timmer on January 25, 2023, 21:35:25 Is it ok if I be slightly alarmed by this... From what Industry Insider has just reported it doesn’t sound good at all.Mark Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on January 25, 2023, 21:54:25 Is it ok if I be slightly alarmed by this... From what Industry Insider has just reported it doesn’t sound good at all.Mark Alarm in the sense there will be a lot of disruption tonight and potentially into the future - YES Alarm in the sense a bridge slowly sinking is likely to be a serious passenger safety issue - NO Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ray951 on January 25, 2023, 22:01:06 I came across the bridge about 1 hour before this incident and it didn't seem any worse than usual, although I had had a beer :)
More importantly this bridge has obviously been getting worse over the last few weeks, so is anyone aware of any plans to fix it or at least stabilise the situation. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Mark A on January 25, 2023, 22:04:37 The good: the Thames has settled down a bit now.
The less good: if it's not the bridge superstructure, the ground's clay and mudstone overlain by stuff from the quaternary (so, thrown down after the last ice age, and there it's listed as sand silt and gravel so not a forgiving ground from the point of view of foundations). This sort of ground can fail gently before picking up its heels a bit and generally becoming a nuisance. Mark Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: stuving on January 25, 2023, 23:12:08 Surprisingly, that bridge is less than 100 years old. After a short-lived timber bridge, the second had iron spans and timber lattice piers. The current one dates from 1929, and is much more solid. Though maybe too heavy for its foundations?
(https://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/04/53/20/4532096_1c7b293e_original.jpg) Copyright Mat Fascione and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons Licence (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/). Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: grahame on January 26, 2023, 05:35:12 Quote Delays to services between Oxford and Didcot Parkway Due to a safety inspection of the track between Oxford and Didcot Parkway trains have to run at reduced speed on all lines. Train services running through these stations may be delayed. Disruption is expected until 07:00 26/01. Customer Advice Track conditions in the Radley & Culham area have necessitated an emergency speed restriction for trains. However, a train travelling through the affected area at 20mph earlier today had reported the conditions have worsened. This, tied with low temperatures (-9C), means we cannot perform the required repairs. - This line has since been inspected by structural engineers & Network Rail staff, and reopened as 20mph, when staff are not on the track. This means we can run trains again, but some may still be delayed. Has it REALLY been -9C overnight?? All around elsewhere reports are of it being much warmer last night than the previous night. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: CyclingSid on January 26, 2023, 06:55:18 The -9C will not doubt refer to RAF Benson which is a well known cold spot in south Oxfordshire. Alright for those residing in the tropical climes of Melksham.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: TaplowGreen on January 26, 2023, 07:42:18 Quote Delays to services between Oxford and Didcot Parkway Due to a safety inspection of the track between Oxford and Didcot Parkway trains have to run at reduced speed on all lines. Train services running through these stations may be delayed. Disruption is expected until 07:00 26/01. Customer Advice Track conditions in the Radley & Culham area have necessitated an emergency speed restriction for trains. However, a train travelling through the affected area at 20mph earlier today had reported the conditions have worsened. This, tied with low temperatures (-9C), means we cannot perform the required repairs. - This line has since been inspected by structural engineers & Network Rail staff, and reopened as 20mph, when staff are not on the track. This means we can run trains again, but some may still be delayed. Has it REALLY been -9C overnight?? All around elsewhere reports are of it being much warmer last night than the previous night. Those who waited for hours in those temperatures for replacement buses late last night (and were then charged to use them when they arrived!) would probably be best placed to confirm. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on January 26, 2023, 09:12:08 Has it REALLY been -9C overnight?? All around elsewhere reports are of it being much warmer last night than the previous night. According to the Met Office website, Benson got as cold as 0C last night! Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on January 26, 2023, 09:59:42 Has it REALLY been -9C overnight?? All around elsewhere reports are of it being much warmer last night than the previous night. According to the Met Office website, Benson got as cold as 0C last night! Perhaps it meant that with temperatures dipping as low as -9 over the previous few nights, including last weekend, temporary repairs to remove the 20mph restriction (and therefore prevent any further marked deterioration resulting in the report of a rough ride last night) weren’t able to be done. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Mark A on January 26, 2023, 11:48:13 Surprisingly, that bridge is less than 100 years old. After a short-lived timber bridge, the second had iron spans and timber lattice piers. The current one dates from 1929, and is much more solid. Though maybe too heavy for its foundations? Photo of the pre-1929 bridge here: https://heritagesearch.oxfordshire.gov.uk/images/POX0118414 (https://heritagesearch.oxfordshire.gov.uk/images/POX0118414) Does anyone know when, in the past, there's been talk of quadruple tracking Oxford to Didcot? It must have been a humungous bottleneck down the ages, is that still the case now? In 1929 the economy was shaky (when is it not...) but you wonder if four tracking was a consideration for the replacement bridge at that date. The width of the bridge deck is generous but not enough for two pairs of tracks, which is curious. The single central pier is wider still, perhaps that component actually was intended to be suitable to carry two pairs of tracks. (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nuneham_Viaduct_crosses_the_Thames_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1345749.jpg) While it's something that would be difficult to do now: a 'least disruption option' might be quadruple tracking the existing line as far as Culham and then a 5 kilometre cut off to join the GWML at a new junction just east of Didcot. Mark Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on January 26, 2023, 12:31:33 There's been rumblings of quadrupling over the last thirty or so years, most recently south from Oxford as far as Radley, but nothing has gone beyond the aspiration stage. Anything beyond that, including cut-offs, would be very expensive and therefore probably unjustifiable. Four tracks south from Oxford to Radley, and grade separation at Didcot and possibly a reversible loop line between Didcot and Appleford Junction would be much more suitable IMHO.
I doubt the money will be forthcoming in the near term for anything though. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on January 27, 2023, 08:10:02 Quote Alterations to services between Oxford and Didcot Parkway Due to a safety inspection of the track between Oxford and Didcot Parkway all lines are blocked. Train services running through these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 08:45 27/01. Last Updated:27/01/2023 07:53 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on January 27, 2023, 18:22:42 There were other delays and cancellations today. RealTimeTrains has some of them being "due to a rail defect".
1P02 05:23 Hereford - Paddington. On time to Wolvercote Junction, but 25 late arriving at Oxford. Cancelled after Oxford. 1P16 06:43 Shrub Hill - Paddington. Also on time to Wolvercote. 17 late into Oxford, 19 late into Paddington. 2E80 07:01 Shrub Hill - Didcot. On time to Oxford, but cancelled after that. 1P03 06:40 Hereford - Paddington. Empty journey started 18 late from Stoke Gifford and arrived 26 late. Left Hereford 26 late. Held at Norton Junction. Ran 41 late from there to Reading. Cancelled after that. 1P20 08:13 Shrub Hill - Paddington. Also held at Norton Junction. 14 late through to Paddington. 1P22 08:56 Great Malvern - Paddington. 13 late more-or-less throughout. 1P24 09:54 Great Malvern - Paddington. Cancelled between Great Malvern and Foregate Street. Delayed at Kingham (8 late) but further delayed after Reading. 32 late at Paddington. 1W13 Paddington - Great Malvern. On time to Didcot. 25 late after that, 36 late from Oxford and into Shrub Hill. Cancelled after Foregate Street. 1W15 Paddington - Great Malvern. On time to Radley, but lost time after that. 27 late into Great Malvern. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on January 28, 2023, 12:04:46 A bit more information on plans to sort out the bridge from a Network Rail Asset Engineer:
Quote The proposed intervention is to use a geopolymer in the bank and the area behind the abutment to stabilise the transition between the two assets. There are some elements that I need to detail through with the proposed geopolymer, organic content of the embankment and EA approvals etc, but I am working to complete the works in late March into April. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on January 28, 2023, 18:54:13 So a 20mph TSR until then, probably with regular inspections?
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on January 28, 2023, 19:10:38 They’ve got some monitoring equipment there, so I’m guessing they can keep a good eye on it remotely. Could go back up to a 50mph restriction if a bit of tamping is done perhaps? But certainly not back up to line speed until the work detailed is undertaken.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 06, 2023, 11:33:52 Quote 08:56 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 11:24 will no longer call at Slough. It has been delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill and is now 17 minutes late. This is due to congestion. Further Information [...] Last Updated:06/02/2023 11:08 Departed Great Malvern at 09:14, 18 late. Departed Shrub Hill at 09:52, 36 late. At 11:08, when JourneyCheck was "last updated", it was awaiting the single line at Charlbury. Departed at 11:09, some 58 late. Why is JourneyCheck so patchy? Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on February 06, 2023, 11:41:02 What do you mean by 'patchy'?
My guess is that was posted just following the decision not to call at Slough. So a sensible update. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on February 07, 2023, 12:53:46 Quote Delays to services between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill Due to a speed restriction over defective track disruption is expected until the end of the day. Train services between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill may be delayed by up to 25 minutes. Additional Information An emergency speed restriction is in place in the Worcester area until further notice. This mostly affects trains between Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcestershire Parkway, but may lead to congestion in the greater Worcester area. Most morning peak services appear to have suffered some minor delays but services seem to be running smoothly at the moment (12:55) Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Richard Fairhurst on February 09, 2023, 08:55:22 16-seater minibus turned up for the RRB from Oxford to Worcester last night (2250ish from Oxford). Bit of a downgrade from an IET as I’m sure even Broadgage would agree. I felt sorry for the passenger who was travelling on it as far as Evesham…
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on February 10, 2023, 20:16:13 Quote Due to a train hitting on obstruction on the line between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill all lines are blocked. As a result, trains may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until the end of the day. Quote 17:34 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:26 is being delayed at Oxford. This is due to this train hitting an obstruction on the line. Realtime trains suggests it got beyond Wolvercote Junction where its last timing was 18:33 (now 20:15). Realtime trains also suggseting the 17:26 WOF:PAD has been held at Charlbury since 18:38. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on February 10, 2023, 20:48:14 Ooof, lucky me! Got off the line just before this happened!
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on February 10, 2023, 21:00:35 Seems quite serious…tweet from someone on the train
Quote I am on this train, amazing work by those working on board. Huge impact on the train, luckily reports from train manage is that there are no injuries. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: bobm on February 10, 2023, 21:06:34 Thought to be masonry from an overbridge.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on February 10, 2023, 21:08:01 Oxford Mail is reporting a road incident nearby:
Quote Yarnton Road both ways blocked due to bridge struck by vehicle near the railway bridge. Speculation is never helpful and could just be coincidence. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Mark A on February 10, 2023, 21:19:01 Google maps reporting mahoosive stationary traffic at the bridge's location. Bridge is this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.8014957,-1.3228304,3a,75y,99.85h,63.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stskNENjwhPmP2l1T-X6SWw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m2!1e4!1e1 Mark Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: 1st fan on February 10, 2023, 21:28:00 I have just returned from Paddington where I was hoping to board the 19:50 to Hereford.
They announced at Paddington that there was a bridge collapse in the Hanborough area and there would be no through trains until the end of the day. I’m going to try again tomorrow and may have to be picked up at Oxford instead. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: 1st fan on February 10, 2023, 22:56:28 Rail Replacement Bus Service now running to and from Oxford heading north for the rest of the day.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on February 11, 2023, 08:14:47 Ongoing all day today too
Quote Service update - 11 Feb⚠️ Due to a train hitting an obstruction on the line between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill, all lines are blocked. Train services running through these stations will be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until the end of the day. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on February 11, 2023, 08:30:00 From journeycheck
Quote Cancellations to services between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill MDue to a landslip between Oxford and Hanborough all lines are blocked. Disruption is expected until the end of the day. Train services between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill may be cancelled or revised. Kingham, Shipton, Ascott-Under-Wychwood, Charlbury and Hanborough will not be served. Customer Advice We have requested mutliple coaches to shuttle between Worcester & Oxford, but we are still waiting for confirmation from suppliers. As soon as we have more information we will publish it. - You can use your GWR ticket on CrossCountry trains between Reading, Oxford, and Birmingham. - You can use your GWR ticket on Chiltern Railways trains between Oxford and London Marylebone. - You can use your GWR ticket on Avanti West Coast trains between Birmingham New Street and London Euston. - You can use your GWR ticket on West Midlands Railway trains between Hereford, Great Malvern, Worcester, and Birmingham. - Additional Information A retaining brick wall has collapsed following a landslip near Hanborough. Following this, a train hit the rubble and has been damaged. Further Information An update will follow within the next 2 hours. If you hold a valid single, return, or weekly ticket, you will be able to claim compensation for delays of 15 minutes or more. Please keep your ticket and visit GWR.com/DelayRepay Last Updated:11/02/2023 07:50 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on February 11, 2023, 08:32:45 Train identified by a CLPG membee
Quote Today's 1734 Paddington to Hereford hit a probable landslide near Hanborough damaging train and road bridge, possibly derailed. Passengers being evacuated as we speak onto rescue train. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: a-driver on February 11, 2023, 09:13:53 Another well maintained Network Rail structure that requires no maintenance and fewer inspections….. perhaps!
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on February 11, 2023, 09:31:01 oh come on, landslips are happening owing to climate change. Not much NR can have done....
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Mark A on February 11, 2023, 13:04:26 There's a cab video of the route from 2019, taken in the 'Down' direction. The approach to the bridge can be found from 55 minutes in to the video. At 55' 22", as the train passes beneath the bridge, there's a glimpse of a 'Not quite benign looking' wing wall, that looks to have had issues with water seeping through. Then, this winter, the area's seen some very low night time temperatures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMADOeBumAU Mark Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on February 11, 2023, 14:20:57 The RAIB are in attendance collecting evidence
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on February 11, 2023, 14:54:15 There's a cab video of the route from 2019, taken in the 'Down' direction. Good cab video that. I wonder who could have produced it? ;D P.S. It was 2020. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Mark A on February 11, 2023, 15:19:40 Oops, yes, 2020: sparse passenger numbers, people masked up.
So many cab videos seem to chance on weather that's not the best, but not this one. West of the Severn particularly, it's a lovely record of the line, the season, and the country. Always love to see that sight-line through Ledbury's station's footbridge. Mark Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Timmer on February 11, 2023, 15:33:49 Good cab video that. I wonder who could have produced it? ;D P.S. It was 2020. That was my first thought when I saw it, was it an II production.Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: eightonedee on February 11, 2023, 17:06:02 Interesting - the AA travel site attributed this to a vehicle striking the bridge. Which is correct (or which caused the other if both?)
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Mark A on February 11, 2023, 18:00:34 BBC site now has a couple of photos from the track.
Mark https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-64609319 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ellendune on February 11, 2023, 19:10:11 Another well maintained Network Rail structure that requires no maintenance and fewer inspections….. perhaps! Yes but economists and Minsters in the Treasury know far more about these things than Network Rail engineers so if they say it is safe to reduce inspections it must be. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Richard Fairhurst on February 12, 2023, 09:00:41 GWR website saying that services are expected to resume this evening.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: CyclingSid on February 12, 2023, 15:48:38 Another well maintained Network Rail structure that requires no maintenance and fewer inspections….. perhaps! Yes but economists and Minsters in the Treasury know far more about these things than Network Rail engineers so if they say it is safe to reduce inspections it must be. Do I hear a faint echo of "we don't need experts"? Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on February 12, 2023, 16:13:56 Services back running. Realtime trains saying the 14:46 Paddington to Great Malvern is just getting to Wolvercote Junction 24 minutes late.
[update] Quote Delays to services between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill Due to an earlier landslip between Oxford and Hanborough trains have to run at reduced speed on all lines. Disruption is expected until the end of the day. Train services between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill are returning to normal but some services will still be delayed by up to 10 minutes. Customer Advice Following a landslip near Hanborough, and a brick wall in a cutting collapsing, engineers have successfully built a temporary retaining wall. Trains can now run as normal, but will experience some delays through the Hanborough area due to a 5mph speed restriction. Last Updated:12/02/2023 17:00 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Richard Fairhurst on February 13, 2023, 07:51:29 But now cancelled again:
Quote Following a landslip near Hanborough, and a brick wall in a cutting collapsing, engineers have successfully built a temporary retaining wall. Trains were running past the affected area with a 5mph speed restriction. However, we've received reports that there has been further land movement and thus trains for safety reasons trains are unable to travel between Oxford and Moreton in Marsh. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Mark A on February 13, 2023, 13:20:30 Wondering if users of the adjacent industrial site got the memo that the road has a 7.5 tonne weight limit on it. (Signed from one direction at least). Also, what services cross the bridge whose wing wall has failed.
Mark Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on February 13, 2023, 13:24:46 Quote Dear Chris We wanted to update you following a landslip next to the railway between Oxford and Hanborough in Oxfordshire that occurred on Friday evening, meaning that section of line is currently closed and is likely to be closed until the weekend. A landslip near Yarnton in Oxfordshire happened on the line, as well as parts of Cassington Road bridge collapsing meaning the line has been blocked. Network Rail engineers are onsite investigating the causes and working on a solution to safely reopen the railway and the road bridge as soon as possible, however due to the complexities it is likely to closed until the weekend. The line between Oxford and Moreton-in-Marsh remains closed today. We have rail replacement buses in place between Moreton-in-Marsh and Oxford, and a shuttle rail service between Moreton-in-Marsh and Worcester. GWR Worcester-London services will run on a diversionary route via Swindon and we also have ticket acceptance in place with Chiltern, CrossCountry, Avanti West Coast and West Midlands Trains. Journeys can be checked at https://www.journeycheck.com/greatwesternrailway/ where customers can also sign up for specific alerts. We will be in touch again once we know when the line will reopen. If there’s anything we can do to help, please don’t hesitate to get in touch. Best wishes Tom & Toby Thomas Lydon | Public Affairs Manager | Great Western Railway Toby Elliott, Head of Communications, Network Rail Western Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 13, 2023, 15:21:04 Which weekend?
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on February 13, 2023, 15:22:14 My thinking is this weekend, until notified of further delays
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on February 13, 2023, 16:45:18 From Network Rail, on Twitter (https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1625155755283214338)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fo21ULVXwAI7Riy?format=jpg&name=4096x4096) Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Richard Fairhurst on February 13, 2023, 21:46:38 RealTimeTrains seems to be suggesting that services might extend to Charlbury from tomorrow rather than Moreton, but who knows:
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:MIM/2023-02-14/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 14, 2023, 08:45:05 Tuesday February 14 - the problem continues, with some diversions, some cancellations and other services only operating between Worcester and Charlbury. At 08:07, JourneyCheck was reporting:
Diversions via Stroud only apply in the up direction: 04:49 Hereford - Paddington (due 07:38) 05:23 Hereford - Paddington (08:24) 17:26 Foregate Street - Paddington (19:54) 22:00 Hereford - Paddington (01:17) Cancellations: 15:20 Paddington - Foregate Street 17:34 Paddington - Hereford 22:50 Paddington - Worcestershire Parkway Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on February 14, 2023, 08:52:55 With the opening of Worcester drivers depot a few years ago, and all of them signing the route via Swindon, it makes diverting trains so much easier than it was when Oxford and Paddington crewed virtually all the North Cotswold services.
One of those little things than can sometimes make a big difference! Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 14, 2023, 14:12:58 Journeycheck now reporting this as continuing to the end of service tomorrow (Wed Feb 15).
Plus two more cancellations: 10:50 Paddington - Shrub Hill and 13:16 return. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 14, 2023, 15:51:55 15:20 Paddington - Foregate Street now restored, but diverted via Stroud
17:34 Paddington - Hereford likewise Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: bobm on February 14, 2023, 21:19:40 Just to add to the challenge there’s a gas main on the roadway which is slowly being uncovered as soil falls away at the bridge.
Not causing issues at the moment but is being watched. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 15, 2023, 04:33:58 National Rail website now reporting that the line will be closed until the end of Tuesday February 21.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: grahame on February 15, 2023, 06:44:34 National Rail website now reporting that the line will be closed until the end of Tuesday February 21. JouneyCheck mirroring that. On local bus connections: Quote Customer Advice Following a landslip near Hanborough, and a brick wall in a cutting collapsing on the evening of Friday 10th February, a 5mph speed restriction was imposed by Network Rail. - Unfortunately, there has been further landslip and thus, for safety reasons, trains are currently unable to operate between Oxford and Charlbury until further notice. - We are operating a train service between Worcester Shrub Hill and Charlbury, with road transport operating from Kingham calling at Charlbury Village, Hanborough and Oxford and return. Bus journey times are considerably longer than usual advertised train times owing to the additional time taken by road between stations, and the time required for loading and unloading at each stop. So that's buses between Kingham and Oxford, although the train from Worcester goes as far as Charlbury. I am not familiar with the geography of the area - would it be fair to guess that Charlbury station and village are well separated, and running the bus operation from Charlbury Station would be impractical? -- - here's the answer: Quote The Rail Replacement Coach Service does not serve Charlbury station as there is a load restriction on a local bridge. The Rail Replacement Coach service calls at Nine Acres Lane, Charlbury Village, which is a 10/15 minute walk from the station. Only a very small proportion of users - but what about the halts? -- - here's the answer: Quote If you are travelling from Shipton, Ascott under Wychwood, Finstock and Combe, please use the Customer Help Point or contact National Rail Enquiries on 03457 484 950 detailing the total number of passengers in your party and your intended destination. This will enable us to get suitable replacement transport to you as quickly as possible. - If you are travelling to Shipton, Ascott under Wychwood, Finstock and Combe please travel to either Kingham or Oxford and speak to the station team who will arrange for onwards roads transport. What about passengers from east of Didcot to west of Worcestershire Parkway? Travel via Swindon? Quote Passengers from Worcester stations, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne or Moreton-in-Marsh travelling to Oxford, Reading or London Paddington are advised to travel to Kingham and then alight there and await the onward Rail Replacement Coach Service to Oxford. Passengers from London Paddington, Reading and Oxford for Moreton-in Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Worcester stations and beyond are advised to travel to Oxford, change there for the Rail Replacement Coach Service to Kingham and then await the onwards GWR train services to Worcester stations. It would appear that advice is to use coaches. For those with cycles, dogs, heavy luggage, or who find coach travel far less comfortable: Quote Ticket acceptance with other train operators will remain in place today. You can use your GWR ticket on : Chiltern Railways between Birmingham Moor St/Banbury/Oxford, and London Marylebone. Avanti West Coast railway between Birmingham New St and London Euston. West Midlands Railway between Hereford, Great Malvern, Worcester, and Birmingham New St/Birmingham Moor St. CrossCountry Trains between Reading and Birmingham New St via Oxford. Transport for Wales trains between Newport (South Wales) and Hereford. I note that only says TODAY - though I suspect it applies up to the line re-opening Nothing about "via Moreton in Marsh" tickets being accepted on GWR trains via Swindon which is (I recall) a more expensive route. Again, I suspect that no-one would be surcharged, though I wonder what tickets will be offered for sale Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Richard Fairhurst on February 15, 2023, 10:02:15 So that's buses between Kingham and Oxford, although the train from Worcester goes as far as Charlbury. I am not familiar with the geography of the area - would it be fair to guess that Charlbury station and village are well separated, and running the bus operation from Charlbury Station would be impractical? -- - here's the answer: Quote The Rail Replacement Coach Service does not serve Charlbury station as there is a load restriction on a local bridge. The Rail Replacement Coach service calls at Nine Acres Lane, Charlbury Village, which is a 10/15 minute walk from the station. Charlbury station is just in the Evenlode valley below the town - it's a five-minute walk from the town centre, two minutes from the nearest houses. The bridge with the weight restriction is the one over the River Evenlode, directly between the town and the station. It first started showing signs of wear about 10 years ago, and there's been a deliberate decision to keep the weight limit on it to prevent heavy traffic going through Charlbury (and, in particular, the tight turn at the top of the hill). In practice Oxfordshire County Council are forgiving of rail replacement buses using it, but I can see that GWR wouldn't want to plan to use it regularly. The split Charlbury/Kingham solution is quite a clever move. Others will know more than me but I also suspect trains can turn around at Charlbury but not at Kingham. GWR's designation of the stop on Nine Acres Lane as "Charlbury Village" (it's not the first time it's been used) has caused some muttered comments locally - Charlbury is very proud of being a town! Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on February 15, 2023, 10:40:14 You can go back from Kingham with a pilot but it involves running on the wrong line all the way to Moreton, so more complex (max 50 mph for example).
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 15, 2023, 16:43:31 Journeycheck is reporting
Quote 15:20 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:41 15:20 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:41 has been cancelled. This is due to a landslip. [...] Last Updated:15/02/2023 15:59 RealTimeTrains is showing the 15:20 from Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street as being diverted via Stroud, and just leaving Swindon. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on February 15, 2023, 16:44:31 It is going via Swindon & South Cotswolds
Quote Disruption has been reported between London Paddington and Oxford. The following services will be cancelled: The 17:57 and 18:58 due to a landslip. The 17:34 will not call at your destination due to a landslip. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Mark A on February 15, 2023, 18:59:42 Video update from Network Rail on site with the miscreant bridge:
https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1625909007679467521 Mark Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: grahame on February 16, 2023, 08:46:33 Now closed only from Oxford to Hanborough - trains Hanborough to Worcester.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: bleeder4 on February 16, 2023, 15:29:29 Bit of a novelty at the moment, as it's currently possible to travel non-stop between Worcester and Reading. The 0537 and 0610 departures from Worcester Shrub Hill this morning both ran non-stop through Cheltenham, along the Golden Valley Line, through Swindon and Didcot, until their next booked stop at Reading.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Richard Fairhurst on February 16, 2023, 21:54:16 So, if the North Cotswolds Line Task Force’s assumptions are correct, this new express Worcester service will result in thousands of Worcester passengers flocking to the train and increased economic prosperity for the city, right?
…right? Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: grahame on February 16, 2023, 22:09:42 So, if the North Cotswolds Line Task Force’s assumptions are correct, this new express Worcester service will result in thousands of Worcester passengers flocking to the train and increased economic prosperity for the city, right? …right? It needs to be a service that people can rely on over a considerable period, so more substantial damage will be required to keep the line closed for perhaps a period of years. But income will be helped as an anytime return via Stroud costs £196.80 whereas via Evesham is £95.00 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 17, 2023, 17:48:39 From JourneyCheck:
Quote Train Cancellations 15:20 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:41 will be cancelled. This is due to a landslip. [...] Last Updated:17/02/2023 14:07 17:34 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:26 will be cancelled. This is due to a landslip. [...] Last Updated:17/02/2023 14:11 Other Train Service Updates 15:20 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:41 Additional 15:20 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:41 will be diverted between Reading and Worcester Shrub Hill. It will call additionally at Didcot Parkway, Swindon and Cheltenham Spa. It has been previously delayed, is being further delayed between Reading and Worcester Shrub Hill and is now expected to be 26 minutes late. This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires. Last Updated:17/02/2023 16:38 17:34 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:26 Additional 17:34 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:26 will be diverted between Reading and Worcester Shrub Hill. It will call additionally at Didcot Parkway, Swindon and Cheltenham Spa. It will be delayed due to the diversion and is expected to be 34 minutes late. This is due to a landslip. Last Updated:17/02/2023 14:14 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on February 17, 2023, 19:02:51 Yep, every weekday until the line re-opens. Two up services in the morning go that way too.
NOTE however, that tomorrow, and possibly Sunday, services are restricted again and bustitution starts at Moreton-in-Marsh to Oxford. Guessing they need more of the line to bring in equipment. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on February 17, 2023, 21:33:27 Or a Pilot can’t be sourced.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on February 18, 2023, 12:03:13 You may well be right....wording may be suggesting that.
From Journeycheck - Quote we're unfortunately unable to run services between Oxford and Moreton-in-Marsh today (18/02/2023). We're operating a train service between Worcester Shrub Hill and Moreton-in-Marsh with road transport operating from Moreton-in-Marsh calling at Kingham, Charlbury Village, Hanborough and Oxford and return. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Richard Fairhurst on February 18, 2023, 20:49:15 Or a Pilot can’t be sourced. Yes, that’s the issue. The RRBs today were not in a great way. I will probably post more some time later but right now I need a drink… Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: GBM on February 19, 2023, 08:11:52 .... but right now I need a drink… yeghes da (Cornish for 'cheers') Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 20, 2023, 04:40:23 Yep, every weekday until the line re-opens. Two up services in the morning go that way too. Indeed so. But Journeycheck only lists the up services once, under 'Other Train Service Updates', whereas it lists the afternoon down services in the afternoon twice, once as 'Cancellations' and a second time under 'Other Train Service Updates' as being diverted. The double listing of the down services is not as clear as it should be. Either don't bother with the 'Cancellations' entry (and they haven't worried about this for the up trains) or have a new heading for 'Diverted Services'. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on February 21, 2023, 21:34:50 Looking good to reopen tomorrow with a 20mph check.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: stuving on February 21, 2023, 22:28:26 Looking good to reopen tomorrow with a 20mph check. Here's Network Rail's description of what they've done: (https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/railway-line-between-oxford-and-worcester-to-reopen-following-repairs-to-wall-collapse-and-landslip-at-yarnton) Quote Railway line between Oxford and Worcester to reopen following repairs to wall collapse and landslip at Yarnton (https://cdn.prgloo.com/media/a11e19a01e034affb6a8a2c19d76886f.png) Tomorrow morning (Wednesday 22 February) services between Oxford and Worcester will resume following the reopening of the line between Oxford and Kingham, after Network Rail successfully repaired a wall collapse and landslip that occurred on Friday 10 February at Yarnton near Oxford. On the evening of Friday 10 February, a side wing wall of the road over rail bridge at Yarnton, Oxfordshire, collapsed onto the rail line serving Oxford to Worcester. Network Rail was on site immediately to repair the damage and put in place protective barriers to protect the rail line, however further landslips continued to occur in the embankment adjacent to the bridge, and as a result the railway between Oxford and Kingham was closed. The ground was extremely unstable and posed a significant risk to the stability of the road and utilities in the road. The landslide had also exposed a gas main which presented an added complexity to overcome during the repairs. At the start of last week, Network Rail’s engineers were on site conducting detailed investigations to identify the most suitable options to stabilise the embankment so that the road bridge and railway underneath it could be safely reopened to traffic. Network Rail worked with specialist civil engineering contractors Balfour Beatty to design metal sheet piling to act as a retaining wall to support the embankment and road. The team of engineers began installing the metal sheet piles, as well as 22 soil nails, on Friday evening and worked tirelessly over the weekend and into this start of this week to complete the work. As a result, this stretch of railway will reopen as planned first thing tomorrow morning (Wednesday 22 February) ready for the first train service of the day – the 05.10 Oxford to Moreton-In-Marsh – to pass through. A 20mph temporary speed restriction will remain in place and a watchman will be positioned on site until Network Rail has completed the second phase of longer-term repairs to reinforce the structure and ground. Construction for this phase of work is due to begin at the end of next week and is expected to take a couple of weeks to complete which will be carried out overnight when no services are running to avoid disrupting passengers. The highway of the road over rail bridge at Yarnton will remain closed until at least the middle of next week with plans to reopen to a single lane controlled by traffic lights. PS: The Guildford line bridge in Wokingham had a similar tantrum last Friday. Part of the parapet fell onto the road, and it wasn't because it got hit - too high above the road, for one thing. So a day with the road closed and a brickie up a scaffold tower, and now we have a stretch of new brickwork. No trains to disrupt, of course. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Richard Fairhurst on February 22, 2023, 09:02:32 And everything reopened this morning as expected.
Curious engineering train scheduled for this evening: Honeybourne to Finstock. I bet that combination hasn't appeared very often! https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U03583/2023-02-22/detailed Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on February 24, 2023, 18:02:32 Just the thing for a Friday afternoon...
Quote 15:20 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:41 will no longer call at Slough, Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Honeybourne, Evesham and Pershore. It has been previously delayed, has been further delayed at Reading and is now 30 minutes late. This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires earlier today. Those decanted at Oxford having to take the next service... Quote 15:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 18:30 was terminated at Oxford. It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Leaving a two car turbo to pick up all those for stations to Moreton-in-Marsh! Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 24, 2023, 19:01:27 The 15:20 from Paddington, missing out lots of stops, got to Foregate Street 41 late at 18:22.
Curiously, the return journey, the 17:58 from Foregate Street has been started from Shrub Hill, but is running 30 minutes late. RealTimeTrains is reporting that the 19:05 from Great Malvern is being started from Oxford (due to an issue with the train crew) - but this is not being reported on JourneyCheck. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: stuving on February 27, 2023, 12:33:51 And everything reopened this morning as expected. RAIB have announced (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/train-striking-debris-at-yarnton)an investigation into this. The first thing to look at was where, of several candidates, it was - Yarnton is the decision: Quote Train striking debris at Yarnton Investigation into a train striking debris from a failed bridge wingwall at Yarnton, near Hanborough, Oxfordshire, 10 February 2023. (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/image_data/file/176568/s300_Yarnton.jpg) Yarnton Road (also known as Cassington Road) bridge, following partial failure of a wingwall. At around 18:40 hrs on Friday 10 February 2023, the driver of the 17:34 hrs Great Western Railway service from London Paddington to Hereford struck some brick rubble on the single line at Yarnton, between Oxford and Charlbury. This had fallen onto the track from a failed wingwall that was adjacent to the line, and which formed part of a bridge carrying a local road over the railway. The train was travelling at around 55 mph (89 km/h) when the collision occurred. The train sustained damage but did not derail. There were no injuries reported to the traincrew or passengers on the service. Although Network Rail initially reopened the line on Sunday 12 February, it was closed again after a few hours. It remained closed for a further nine days while an adjacent embankment was stabilised. Our investigation will seek to identify the sequence of events which led to this accident. It will also consider:
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Mark A on February 27, 2023, 13:36:04 It's good to see this described as a wingwall collapse rather than a landslip.
Everything looks a bit... damp, and people working with this will now be very familiar with the services the bridge carries. If a water main's involved along with other services, sometimes the fix for a water leak can be delayed while the various services have a conversation and everyone sort of loses focus on the potential risk particularly if the services cross a structure. Anecdotes follow ... tl;dr - we sometimes don't take into account the vulnerabilities of bridges and the 'Stitch in time' principle. Anedote 1: Out on a walk, passing beneath a bridge over the canal, everything was wet. The bridge's retaining wall had a healthy spout of potable water issuing cheerfully from it that looked to have been running for so long that it was surprising that it wasn't marked on OS maps as a spring, and the leak looked to have redirected itself from its previous path of least resistance through the bridge arch, which was and remains a bit distressed. The road surface above indicated services below, so, phone call to the water authority. It emerged that their leak reporting line was unable to locate a leak without a postcode - awkward as, despite a house alongside it, canal bridges do not have postcodes. They finally located the leak from identifying the intersection of the (b) road and the canal - and then responded that the leak had indeed been reported some time ago and were thankfully indiscrete enough to say the fix was complicated as it was beneath a wooden pole mounted through the bridge approach and carrying a lowish voltage electricity pole, which had delayed things. This is some way from home and I didn't revisit until the end of August last year when the whole area was dry (and the leak had not prompted an actual collapse before it was fixed). (https://i.postimg.cc/HxxgbJCQ/b3101-bridge-1000.jpg) (https://i.postimg.cc/52VjLmKL/b3101-bridge-spout-1000.jpg) Anecdote 2: one Friday, we received a report that Bath's Two Tunnels path was abruptly wet at Claude Avenue bridge - that's one of the two overbridges in Oldfield Park. Dropping by on the way home from work, water was seeping from a very wide area of the bridge's masonry including the flat & vulnerable retaining wall on the uphill side. There followed a phone call to Wessex Water making clear the position of the leak and the potential for structural damage. To their credit, they were out that evening, and over the weekend they dug things up, fixed it and the bridge quickly dried and we didn't need to contact them again about it. Mark Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on February 27, 2023, 14:08:33 And everything reopened this morning as expected. RAIB have announced (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/train-striking-debris-at-yarnton)an investigation into this. The first thing to look at was where, of several candidates, it was - Yarnton is the decision: Quote Train striking debris at Yarnton Interestingly, Rail Advent (https://www.railadvent.co.uk/2023/02/investigation-into-train-striking-debris-at-yarnton-oxfordshire.html) carries an extra snippet - Quote It will scrutinise a report made before the incident of cracks in the road approaching the bridge on the embankment next to it. Wonder where they got that from. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 27, 2023, 15:02:53 The photograph in the RAIB announcement makes it look as if the wall is made up of two skins of brickwork, with little bonding between the two. You can see this more clearly in the RailAdvent piece.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Ollie on February 27, 2023, 22:39:54 And everything reopened this morning as expected. RAIB have announced (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/train-striking-debris-at-yarnton)an investigation into this. The first thing to look at was where, of several candidates, it was - Yarnton is the decision: Quote Train striking debris at Yarnton Interestingly, Rail Advent (https://www.railadvent.co.uk/2023/02/investigation-into-train-striking-debris-at-yarnton-oxfordshire.html) carries an extra snippet - Quote It will scrutinise a report made before the incident of cracks in the road approaching the bridge on the embankment next to it. Wonder where they got that from. That bit is in the RAIB release quoted by stuving. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on February 28, 2023, 09:16:09 So it is, Ollie. Thanks.
If every crack in the road adjacent to a railway bridge has to be investigated for soil movement, god help the railway. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ray951 on March 09, 2023, 16:46:03 A bit more information on plans to sort out the bridge from a Network Rail Asset Engineer: Quote The proposed intervention is to use a geopolymer in the bank and the area behind the abutment to stabilise the transition between the two assets. There are some elements that I need to detail through with the proposed geopolymer, organic content of the embankment and EA approvals etc, but I am working to complete the works in late March into April. Looks like work on the bridge will start soon as they have been busy building an access road down to the Culham end of the bridge. This access road is between the railway and the adjacent 'dirt-bike' track. I wonder if they will lower the track bed to meet the current bridge height or try to raise the bridge to match the track bed, this is assuming that it is the bridge that has sunk. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ray951 on March 22, 2023, 11:19:56 No trains between Didcot and oxford on Sunday 26th March and Sunday 2nd April to repair the bridge over the Thames between Culham and Radley.
Rail replacement buses between Didcot and Oxford and Cotswold line services will start/end at Oxford. From GWR: On the 26th two direct trains will run from London Paddington at 1920 to Hereford and 2050 to Worcester Shrub Hill, diverted via an alternative route between Didcot Parkway and Worcester Shrub Hill. On the 1st a very limited direct service will run from London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill, diverted via an alternative route between Didcot Parkway and Worcester Shrub Hill. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Richard Fairhurst on May 02, 2023, 10:25:36 Not quite sure what was going on this morning. According to RTT, the Oxfordshire Halts stopper left Shrub Hill 38 minutes late; lost more time en route; and was terminated at Charlbury at 08.53. I cycled past at about 09.00 and there was a Turbo sitting in platform 2, presumably this service.
But then it looks like the 08.44 from Oxford to Worcester was also cancelled between Oxford and Charlbury, to be replaced with an ECS working. Perhaps the guard from the Halts train was required on the 08.44, and swapped trains at Charlbury, meaning that the Oxford<–>Charlbury journeys couldn't carry passengers without a guard? https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/detailed/gb-nr:CBY/2023-05-02/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on May 07, 2023, 15:40:47 An unusual entry on JourneyCheck today:
14:27 Hereford to Oxford due 16:28 14:27 Hereford to Oxford due 16:28 will no longer call at Ledbury, Colwall, Great Malvern and Malvern Link. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on May 07, 2023, 16:08:41 10cars maybe with only one train manager until GMV?
All/any pax at HFD into one 5car unit with TM, then non-stop to GMV to pick up second member of staff? Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on May 07, 2023, 17:05:18 RealTimeTrains is reporting it as a five-car unit.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on May 16, 2023, 10:19:34 Quote 21:00 Worcester Foregate Street to Oxford due 22:30 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough and Oxford. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Surely this is a cancellation of the service, in all but name? Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on May 18, 2023, 09:50:59 Quote 21:00 Worcester Foregate Street to Oxford due 22:30 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough and Oxford. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Surely this is a cancellation of the service, in all but name? Well, it wasn't terminated at Shrub Hill or cancelled. The service ran as timetabled, and the same unit returned from Oxford to Worcester later as the last down service of the day Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on May 19, 2023, 04:08:10 Lots of cancellations posted on JourneyCheck for today due to shortage of train crew:
05:10 Oxford to Worcester Shrub Hill due 06:15 ("due to the emergency services dealing with an incident near the railway yesterday") 11:45 Oxford to Worcester Shrub Hill due 13:01 13:16 Worcester Shrub Hill to Oxford due 14:29 17:30 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:26 19:45 Great Malvern to Oxford due 21:30 21:43 Oxford to Great Malvern due 23:11 22:00 Hereford to Oxford due 00:07 00:15 Oxford to Worcestershire Parkway Hl due 01:19 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on May 21, 2023, 08:59:58 And more today:
Due to shortage of train crew: 10:50 Great Malvern to Oxford due 12:22 15:46 Oxford to Great Malvern due 17:14 17:30 Hereford to Oxford due 19:27 Due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time: 19:46 Oxford to Hereford due 21:55 19:58 Great Malvern to Oxford due 21:28 20:46 Oxford to Great Malvern due 22:17 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: didcotdean on May 21, 2023, 14:53:16 GWR is apparently trying to rustle up some road transport to provide some kind of substitution, but how successful this is remains to be seen.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on May 21, 2023, 17:09:21 Getting worse. JourneyCheck is now reporting as cancelled:
15:30 Hereford to Oxford due 17:28 17:30 Hereford to Oxford due 19:27 18:58 Great Malvern to Oxford due 20:25 19:58 Great Malvern to Oxford due 21:28 17:46 Oxford to Great Malvern due 19:14 19:46 Oxford to Hereford due 21:55 20:46 Oxford to Great Malvern due 22:17 21:46 Oxford to Worcester Shrub Hill due 22:59 This leaves a four-hour gap in the timetable in each direction. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on May 21, 2023, 18:16:58 Getting worse. JourneyCheck is now reporting as cancelled: 15:30 Hereford to Oxford due 17:28 17:30 Hereford to Oxford due 19:27 18:58 Great Malvern to Oxford due 20:25 19:58 Great Malvern to Oxford due 21:28 17:46 Oxford to Great Malvern due 19:14 19:46 Oxford to Hereford due 21:55 20:46 Oxford to Great Malvern due 22:17 21:46 Oxford to Worcester Shrub Hill due 22:59 This leaves a four-hour gap in the timetable in each direction. And now there's a line cancellation note : "Replacement road transport has been requested to operate in both directions between Hereford and Oxford". Plus... 16:46 Oxford to Great Malvern due 18:17 - terminate at Shrub Hill 16:58 Great Malvern to Oxford due 18:25 - start from Shrub Hill 18:46 Oxford to Great Malvern due 20:14 will be reinstated and will now run as scheduled. Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5. First class not available. 20:40 Great Malvern to Oxford due 22:22 will be reinstated and will now run as scheduled. Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5. First class not available. 22:46 Oxford to Worcester Shrub Hill due 23:59 will be reinstated and will now run as scheduled. Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5. First class not available. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on May 22, 2023, 02:24:46 And the problems continue into Monday morning, with JourneyCheck reporting as cancelled due to repairs
05:10 Oxford to Worcester Shrub Hill due 06:15 05:23 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:24 [via Stroud] 06:35 Evesham to Oxford due 07:29 07:25 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 10:00 [via Stroud] 07:48 Oxford to Worcester Shrub Hill due 09:05 That leaves, out of Shrub Hill 05:14 to Oxford 06:43 to Oxford 07:01 to Oxford ("halts train") 07:31 from Great Malvern to Oxford RTT is showing both the 05:23 Hereford - Paddington and the 07:25 Shrub Hill - Paddington as operating, but as empty coaching stock. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on May 22, 2023, 10:22:08 It's as if we've time-warped back to pre-2011 redoubling style reliability levels
And the amount of concern this is to anyone in authority will be close to zero, I bet. Stuff the passengers. They're only fare payers, after all Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on May 22, 2023, 13:57:21 From JourneyCheck:
14:45 Oxford to Great Malvern due 16:15 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to a shortage of train crew. 16:32 Great Malvern to Oxford due 18:26 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on May 22, 2023, 22:35:25 20:56 Worcester Foregate Street to Oxford due 22:21 was terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train crew. But RTT reports that it did operate as empty coaching stock Shrub Hill - Oxford. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on May 28, 2023, 09:30:19 It's Sunday again. Journey Check is reporting the following as being cancelled due to a shortage of train crew:
13:11 Worcester Foregate Street to Oxford due 14:28 14:46 Oxford to Hereford due 17:00 17:30 Hereford to Oxford due 19:27 19:46 Oxford to Hereford due 21:55 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on May 28, 2023, 20:35:15 One driver's turn.....
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on May 29, 2023, 09:51:31 One driver's turn..... That little lot would be on more than one drivers turn….they do get a break! More likely to be a TM shortage anyway, as there is difficulty covering the Reading and London crews work on the North Cotswold services due to them needing to get through to Oxford by bus/taxi. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on June 21, 2023, 16:35:24 Quote 15:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:21/06/2023 11:42 1W02 1152 Paddington to Hereford also cancelled throughout "due to an unknown cause ZW" Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on June 24, 2023, 05:39:50 From JourneyCheck:
Quote 05:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 08:22 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. RTT suggests that the stock will run empty to Paddington via Stroud at 08:45, arriving 11:40. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on June 26, 2023, 16:18:56 From JourneyCheck:
Quote Facilities on the 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22. RTT reports this as being a 5-car IET.Service full and standing from Oxford. Quote 16:32 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:29 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading and London Paddington. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:26/06/2023 11:59 20:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 23:12 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:26/06/2023 12:34 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on June 26, 2023, 16:54:10 From JourneyCheck: Quote Facilities on the 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22. RTT reports this as being a 5-car IET.Service full and standing from Oxford. Yes, booked for a 5-car. Leisure travel has gone bonkers! Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on June 26, 2023, 16:58:42 Summer tourists in Oxford....?
That's where they need to add another 5car IET at Oxford.... Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on June 27, 2023, 12:25:24 07:50 Paddington - Great Malvern failed at Hanborough (problems with the doors) and was cancelled thereafter.
08:15 Worcester Shrub Hill - Paddington was held at Charlbury and ran 43 late. A freight (a rarity on this end of our line) followed the 08:15 on the single line. 08:52 Paddington - Great Malvern was held at Oxford and left 33 late. Return workings affected - JourneyCheck reports: Quote 10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:24 has been reinstated. It will be started from Oxford. This is due to a broken down train. Last Updated:27/06/2023 11:34 11:57 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 14:22 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to a broken down train earlier today. Last Updated:27/06/2023 10:53 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on June 27, 2023, 13:24:34 Yes, booked for a 5-car. Leisure travel has gone bonkers! Running long-formed as a 9-car today (starting at Great Malvern). Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on June 27, 2023, 14:59:49 Quote 13:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 16:15 is being delayed between London Paddington and Reading. This is due to failure of the electricity supply./i] Left Padd on time and was 12 late by OOC Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on June 28, 2023, 11:11:00 From JourneyCheck:
Quote Facilities on the 08:51 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 11:14. Service full and standing from London Paddington. There are no reservations on this service. Last Updated:28/06/2023 09:20 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 16 minutes late. This is due to a late departure while the train was cleaned specially. Last Updated:28/06/2023 10:12 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on June 28, 2023, 12:06:06 From JourneyCheck: Quote 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 16 minutes late. This is due to a late departure while the train was cleaned specially. Looks like it'll be terminated at Ledbury, and the return working 1P04 started from there I wonder what proportion of the trains intended to reach Hereford from Paddington ever actually arrive there? Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on June 28, 2023, 13:54:17 The late departure of the 09:52 to Hereford from Paddington (+16) meant that it had to wait at Wolvercote Junction for the single line to Charlbury (+39).
In turn that meant it had to wait at Malvern Wells for the single line to Ledbury (+52). The late departure from Paddington seems to be the result of a set swap. The 09:52 is normally a set that has come from North Pole but today it was a set that had come in from Oxford (at 09:52!). Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 02, 2023, 16:18:50 From JourneyCheck:
Quote 14:30 Hereford to London Paddington due 17:22 will no longer call at Radley and Didcot Parkway. Full and standing from Worcestershire Parkway is a new one.This is due to overcrowding. Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9. Service full and standing from Worcestershire Parkway Hl. Last Updated:02/07/2023 16:05 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 03, 2023, 05:28:08 From JourneyCheck:
Quote 05:23 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:03/07/2023 01:23 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 03, 2023, 05:37:55 From JourneyCheck: Quote 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 16 minutes late. This is due to a late departure while the train was cleaned specially. Looks like it'll be terminated at Ledbury, and the return working 1P04 started from there I wonder what proportion of the trains intended to reach Hereford from Paddington ever actually arrive there? During the week commencing Monday June 2, there should have been 33 GW arrivals and 33 GW departures at Hereford. Four of each failed to make it, so the answer to the question is 12%. Mon 5 scheduled arrivals + 5 departures - all OK Tue 5+5 but lost 1+1 Wed same Thu same Fri 5+5 all OK Sat 5 departures + 4 arrivals but lost 1+1 Sun 3 departures + 4 arrivals - all OK Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 04, 2023, 15:54:51 From JourneyCheck:
Quote 14:53 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:04 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:04/07/2023 14:40 17:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:54 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:04/07/2023 15:11 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 05, 2023, 07:43:30 From JourneyCheck:
Quote 05:23 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:05/07/2023 04:21 05:53 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 08:38 has been cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:05/07/2023 06:14 08:56 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 11:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:05/07/2023 06:14 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on July 05, 2023, 09:00:55 From JourneyCheck: Quote 05:23 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:05/07/2023 04:21 05:53 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 08:38 has been cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:05/07/2023 06:14 08:56 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 11:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:05/07/2023 06:14 And Realtime trains is showing that the 05:14 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington service was also cancelled meaning the short-formed and late running 06:43 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington was the first up service of the day. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 06, 2023, 06:12:14 The first train from Hereford is not having a good week:
Quote 05:23 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:24 will be reinstated. It will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading and London Paddington. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:06/07/2023 00:46 Note that cancellations due to the overtime ban are reported as "This is due to industrial action". Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: GBM on July 06, 2023, 06:18:08 The first train from Hereford is not having a good week: Many cancellations today on Cornish branches due to shortage of train crew (rather than industrial action).Quote 05:23 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:24 will be reinstated. It will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading and London Paddington. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:06/07/2023 00:46 Note that cancellations due to the overtime ban are reported as "This is due to industrial action". Interesting. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on July 06, 2023, 08:12:09 The first train from Hereford is not having a good week: Quote 05:23 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:24 will be reinstated. It will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading and London Paddington. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:06/07/2023 00:46 As yesterday, the following 06.43 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington only five coaches and running over half an hour late. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 06, 2023, 09:35:50 Not a good day. According to RTT:
1P11 05:14 Shrub Hill - Paddington ran to time 1P02 05:23 Hereford - Paddington cancelled after Shrub Hill 1P16 06:43 Shrub Hill - Paddington (5 cars) left Shrub Hill 29 late, arrived Paddington 36 late. (Late departure from Worcester sidings.) 2E80 07:01 Shrub Hill - Didcot (2 cars) left Shrub Hill 15 late, was held at Norton, arrived Oxford 24 late, cancelled after that 1P18 07:13 Great Malvern - Paddington (9 cars) left Malvern 15 late, held at Henwick and Charlbury, arrived Oxford 40 late 1W11 05:53 Paddington - Great Malvern (5 cars) ran on time to Evesham, where it has a scheduled wait of 12 minutes. Despite this, it left Evesham 14 late and arrived Malvern 7 late. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 07, 2023, 13:48:15 From JourneyCheck:
Quote 15:23 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:47 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:07/07/2023 11:02 18:02 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 20:30 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:07/07/2023 11:02 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on July 07, 2023, 15:20:06 07/07/2023
1P30 1316 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington arrived on time at 1334 at Evesham, departed 15 minutes late, no real picking-up of time to Oxford, where it was terminated. 5 car 800018 "Problem with the train (M8)" 1W02 1152 Paddington to Hereford. 5 mins late Didcot, 15 late off Oxford, 23 late off Foregate St, got to Hereford 32 minutes late (1513). Due to form the 1518 back to Paddington, 1P05 9 car 802106 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 08, 2023, 09:55:31 Saturday July 8
1W11 05:52 Paddington - Foregate Street was cancelled between Worcester Foregate Street and Great Malvern due to a points failure (IB). On time at Langley but 25 late after Slough. Quote 08:50 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 11:22 will be started from Worcester Foregate Street. This is due to a points failure. Last Updated:08/07/2023 07:46 08:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 11:24 will be terminated at Reading. It will no longer call at Oxford, Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:08/07/2023 09:41 11:55 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 14:22 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:08/07/2023 09:41 RTT is reporting 1W17 08:52 Paddington - Great Malvern as Quote This service was cancelled between Reading and Great Malvern due to adverse weather conditions (MW). Wrong code perhaps? Quote 13:05 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 15:22 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:08/07/2023 11:11 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 08, 2023, 19:06:24 Quote 17:00 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:24 Service full and standing from Oxford. Last Updated:08/07/2023 18:41 RTT reports this as being a 5-car. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 09, 2023, 08:02:05 Sunday July 9 : JourneyCheck reports
Quote 13:11 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 15:25 will be started from Oxford. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:09/07/2023 02:13 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 10, 2023, 06:22:43 Sunday July 9 had time-keeping issues. The worst cases:
1W15 07:36 Paddington - Great Malvern : held at Didcot due to overunning engineering work. Left 53 late. Arrived Foregate Street 59 late, cancelled thereafter. 1W35 08:53 Paddington - Great Malvern : held at Reading and at Wolvercote. 22 : late at Hanborough, arrived Malvern 20 late. 1W01 09:47 Paddington - Hereford : 13 late at Shrub Hill, but it has a scheduled 13 wait at Malvern, so on time at Hereford. 1W03 13:44 Paddington - Hereford : problems before Reading. Left Oxford 26 late, arrived Hereford 32 late. 1W47 14:44 Paddington - Great Malvern : delayed at Didcot. Left Oxford 17 late, arrived Malvern 24 late. 1W51 16:44 Paddington - Great Malvern : left Paddington 23 late. 30 late at Norton Junction, but arrived Shrub Hill 56 late, cancelled thereafter. 1W59 17:44 Paddington - Great Malvern : on time until after Evesham. 18 late at Norton Junction and 27 late at Malvern. 1W08 18:51 Paddington - Hereford : lost time after Charlbury. 18 late at Shrub Hill, arrived Hereford 19 late. 1P30 08:15 Foregate St - Paddington : held at Charlbury. Left there 48 late. Arrived Paddington 48 late. 1P37 08:58 Great Malvern - Paddington : held at Charlbury. Left there 21 late. Arrived Paddington 22 late. 1P45 11:05 Great Malvern - Paddington : started from Foregate St. On time into Paddington. 1P49 11:55 Great Malvern - Paddington : started 8 late. Arrived Paddington 14 late. 1P55 13:12 Foregate St - Paddington : cancelled throughout. RTT does not record it as starting from Oxford as per JourneyCheck. 1P59 13:58 Great Malvern - Paddington : lost time. Held at Charlbury and left 23 late. Arrived Paddington 30 late. 1P63 14:30 Hereford - Paddington : 6 late at Shrub Hill, 19 late at Charlbury. Arrived Paddington 31 late. 1P69 15:31 Hereford - Paddington : 12 late at Charlbury. Arrived Paddington 13 late. 1P73 16:58 Great Malvern - Paddington : held at Charlbury and left 16 late. Arrived Paddington 16 late. 1P77 17:30 Hereford - Paddington : left 25 late. Arrived Paddington 30 late. 1P81 18:58 Great Malvern - Paddington : held at Foregate St and Shrub Hill. Left Shrub Hill 48 late. Arrived Paddington 57 late. 1P85 20:16 Great Malvern - Paddington : started from Foregate St, 19 late. Arrived Paddington 35 late. 1P88 20:40 Great Malvern - Paddington : left 21 late. Scheduled wait of 7 at Evesham. Arrived Paddington only 4 late. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 10, 2023, 06:31:54 Monday July 10.
Ominously, train 1D10, 05:05 Paddington - Oxford (due 06:07), seems to have stopped at Appleford, with the stock for the 06:48 Oxford - Paddington trapped behind it. CrossCountry's train 1M18, 05:15 Southampton - Manchester (due Oxford 06:37) is running wrong line from Didcot. Train 1W11 05:53 Paddington - Great Malvern is reported by JourneyCheck as being delayed by this. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Timmer on July 10, 2023, 06:52:09 Monday July 10. Ominously, train 1D10, 05:05 Paddington - Oxford (due 06:07), seems to have stopped at Appleford, with the stock for the 06:48 Oxford - Paddington trapped behind it. CrossCountry's train 1M18, 05:15 Southampton - Manchester (due Oxford 06:37) is running wrong line from Didcot. Train 1W11 05:53 Paddington - Great Malvern is reported by JourneyCheck as being delayed by this. This will explain what’s happening: Quote Cancellations to services between Didcot Parkway and Oxford Due to a broken down train between Didcot Parkway and Oxford the line towards Oxford is blocked. Train services running through these stations may be cancelled or delayed by up to 15 minutes. Disruption is expected until 07:30 10/07. Customer Advice Apologies to customers travelling between Didcot Parkway and Oxford this morning. One of our trains is currently broken-down at Appleford on the line towards Oxford. This means all traffic is having to share one line through Appleford causing morning peak congestion. Consequently trains through this area will be subject to delays and cancellations in order to relieve traffic in the area. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 10, 2023, 07:43:49 Looking at OpenTrainTimes, somebody did some nifty work to extricate the trapped stock back into Didcot and put it into service towards Paddington from there (and on time).
Train 1D10 is now on the move again and is arriving at Oxford some 92 late. Knock-on effects on other trains. 1W11 05:53 Paddington - Great Malvern left Oxford 35 late and will be terminated at Foregate St. 1W13 06:50 Paddington - Great Malvern was held at Reading and has left 21 late. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on July 10, 2023, 08:46:56 Bi-Di signalling installed five years ago proving very useful again as at least three trains went round the failed train that would previously have been stuck.
Next month, as the first part of the latest Oxford corridor works comes to fruition, the line speeds will increase in the ‘wrong’ direction from 60 to 75mph which will be even better. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 11, 2023, 06:10:46 Tuesday July 11. JourneyCheck reports:
Quote 06:43 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 08:43 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:11/07/2023 05:51 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on July 13, 2023, 10:27:49 Quote 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. There seem to have been quite a few niggly cancellations and delays over the past few weeks. Nothing like as bad as it was in the good old days but it's becoming noticeable. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on July 13, 2023, 10:53:28 Quote 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. There seem to have been quite a few niggly cancellations and delays over the past few weeks. Nothing like as bad as it was in the good old days but it's becoming noticeable. I've been following the record of this Paddington to Hereford train lately. Seems to run late (and get progressively later) very often, resulting in terminating short of destination sometimes, or a late return working. Also a high-up-the-list candidate for cancellation It's almost as if either the powers-that-be or the fates have decided that travellers need to be deterred from using a train if they want to get to Hereford from London with ease. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 14, 2023, 14:02:43 Quote 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. There seem to have been quite a few niggly cancellations and delays over the past few weeks. Nothing like as bad as it was in the good old days but it's becoming noticeable. I've been following the record of this Paddington to Hereford train lately. Seems to run late (and get progressively later) very often, resulting in terminating short of destination sometimes, or a late return working. Also a high-up-the-list candidate for cancellation It's almost as if either the powers-that-be or the fates have decided that travellers need to be deterred from using a train if they want to get to Hereford from London with ease. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on July 14, 2023, 14:23:55 Quote 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. There seem to have been quite a few niggly cancellations and delays over the past few weeks. Nothing like as bad as it was in the good old days but it's becoming noticeable. I've been following the record of this Paddington to Hereford train lately. Seems to run late (and get progressively later) very often, resulting in terminating short of destination sometimes, or a late return working. Also a high-up-the-list candidate for cancellation It's almost as if either the powers-that-be or the fates have decided that travellers need to be deterred from using a train if they want to get to Hereford from London with ease. Yes, and only 4 minutes late The following 1152 Paddington 1W02 is, as I type, also heading for Hereford, 9 minutes late at Malvern Wells Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: 1st fan on July 14, 2023, 21:13:31 Owing to a signal failure in the west trains are heavily disrupted. The 19:53 to Hereford started from Reading and was 21 minutes late last time I checked.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on July 17, 2023, 09:36:09 Quote 07:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:12 has been cancelled. This is due to a road vehicle colliding with a bridge. 1P26 1059 Gt Malvern return working also showing on RTT, but not on the GW Journey Check Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 23, 2023, 05:35:42 This feels ominous - posted early on JourneyCheck:
Quote 07:36 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:14 will be delayed at Oxford. This is due to engineering works not being finished on time. Last Updated:23/07/2023 04:43 08:15 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:26 will be delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to engineering works not being finished on time. Last Updated:23/07/2023 04:44 And a bit later: Quote 08:58 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 11:24 will be delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to engineering works not being finished on time. Last Updated:23/07/2023 05:41 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: TaplowGreen on July 23, 2023, 08:28:47 Ominous indeed............
Cancellations to services between Great Malvern and Oxford Due to engineering works not being finished on time between Great Malvern and Oxford all lines are closed. Train services running through these stations may be cancelled or diverted. Some stations between Worcester Foregate Street and Reading will not be served. Disruption is expected until 10:00 23/07. Customer Advice Due to over running engineering works, the line between Worcester Shrub Hill and Oxford is still closed. Stations on the North Cotswolds line are currently not being served. Trains are being diverted from Worcester to run straight to Reading. Road transport is operating in place of the train on the North Cotswolds line until further notice. If using an unstaffed station, please use the Help Point. Replacement road transport services are conveying passengers between Worcester Foregate Street and Oxford in both directions until further notice. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 23, 2023, 09:04:09 And later:
Quote Due to over running engineering works and the failure of a stone-blowing train on the North Cotswold route, all lines between Worcester Shrub Hill and Oxford are closed. Stations on the North Cotswolds line are currently not being served by rail. Some trains are being diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading. 07:36 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:14 will be terminated at Oxford. It has been delayed between London Paddington and Slough and is now 25 minutes late. This is due to a fault with the signalling system. Last Updated:23/07/2023 08:26 08:15 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 10:26 will be diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Didcot Parkway. It will be delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to engineering works not being finished on time. Last Updated:23/07/2023 05:56 10:50 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:26 will be started from Oxford. This is due to engineering works not being finished on time. Last Updated:23/07/2023 06:14 No mention of the 08:58 Great Malvern - Paddington, which is still listed on RTT. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 23, 2023, 11:14:18 The line between Oxford and Worcester looks to have reopened - it has disappeared from JourneyCheck's 'Line Updates' section.
But... Quote 08:58 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 11:24 will be diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Oxford. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough. This is due to engineering works not being finished on time. Last Updated:23/07/2023 09:05 09:47 London Paddington to Hereford due 13:01 will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore and Worcestershire Parkway Hl. It will be delayed at Oxford and is expected to be 40 minutes late. This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption. Last Updated:23/07/2023 10:37 09:58 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:22 is being delayed at Evesham. This is due to engineering works not being finished on time. Last Updated:23/07/2023 10:36 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on July 23, 2023, 11:44:36 National Rail says disruption till 1300
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 23, 2023, 11:57:58 We're back on the 'Line Updates' section, with the news
Quote The latest update from Network Rail is that we may be able to get the 'UP' line towards London back relatively shortly. The 'DOWN' line towards Worcester may have to remain blocked for a little while longer. We're currently awaiting a rescue locomotive to get to the train stranded on the DOWN line. Until it gets there, the failed train won't be going anywhere. Last Updated:23/07/2023 11:49 Meanwhile, train 1P41, the 09:58 Great Malvern - Paddington, has been held at Evesham and has now left 63 late. And in Oxford, train 1W01, the 09:47 Paddington - Hereford, has been held for so long that 1W37, the 10:44 Paddington - Great Malvern has now arrived behind it. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 23, 2023, 12:25:30 And 1W01 has set off, 73 late.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 23, 2023, 14:11:35 1W01 had a further delay between Hanborough and Charlbury but has now arrived at Shrub Hill, 118 late.
And 1P41, having been held at Charlbury for 40 minutes, has reached Reading, 104 late (and, understandably, given up there). The latest JourneyCheck bulletin: Quote Cancellations to services between Great Malvern and Oxford Following engineering works not being finished on time between Great Malvern and Oxford all lines towards Oxford are now open. Train services running through these stations may be cancelled or delayed by up to 120 minutes. Disruption is expected until 16:00 23/07. **Latest update (13:31)** - All lines have since reopened however service is badly damaged due to the duration of this incident. Service recovery is going to take some time. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 24, 2023, 02:32:52 Service recovery did indeed "take some time". Here's the list of delays:
1P30 08:15 Foregate Street - Paddington : ran via Stroud, arrived 24 late 1P37 08:58 Great Malvern - Paddington : ran via Stroud, arrived 9 late 1P41 09:58 Great Malvern - Paddington : held at Evesham (for 65) and at CBY (40), arrived RDG 109 late. Cancelled after RDG. 1P45 10:50 Great Malvern - Paddington : started at Oxford, arrived 23 late 1P49 11:55 Great Malvern - Paddington : started at Oxford 1P55 13:12 Foregate St - Paddington : 12 late 1P59 13:58 Great Malvern - Paddington : started from Shrub Hill 1P63 14:30 Hereford - Paddington : started from Great Malvern 1P69 15:30 Hereford - Paddington : started from Great Malvern 1W15 07:36 Paddington - Great Malvern : arrived Oxford 19 late, cancelled after Oxford 1W35 08:53 Paddington - Great Malvern : arrived Oxford 20 late, cancelled after Oxford 1W01 09:47 Paddington - Hereford : held at Oxford (for 75), further delayed between Hanborough and Charlbury. Arrived Great Malvern 133 late, cancelled thereafter. 1W37 10:44 Paddington - Great Malvern : held at Oxford (for 74). Arrived Shrub Hill 81 late, cancelled thereafter 1W02 11:44 Paddington - Hereford : held at Oxford, Wolvercote and Evesham. Arrived Great Malvern late, cancelled thereafter 1W39 12:44 Paddington - Great Malvern : started from Reading 46 late. Arrived Great Malvern 64 late. 1W03 13:44 Paddington - Hereford : started 16 late but is scheduled for six-minute stand at Didcot and 13 at Great Malvern. 1W59 17:44 Paddington - Great Malvern : started 12 late, arrived 17 late 1W08 18:51 Paddington - Hereford : on time at Parkway on time but 65 late at Shrub Hill, cancelled thereafter ("due to an issue with the train crew") Quite what happened here isn't obvious from RTT. 1W73 19:44 Paddington - Great Malvern : held at Evesham (for 29), arrived 35 late Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 25, 2023, 06:14:25 Today, the 'halts' train, the 07:01 Shrub Hill - Didcot Parkway has problems:
Quote 07:01 Worcester Shrub Hill to Didcot Parkway due 08:45 will be started from Oxford. This is due to a fault with the signalling system. Last Updated:25/07/2023 04:40 The 07:13 Great Malvern - Paddington will have to do the stops instead: Quote 07:13 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 09:40 will call additionally at Shipton, Ascott-Under-Wychwood, Finstock and Combe. This is due to the train making extra stops because of service disruption. Last Updated:25/07/2023 04:59 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 25, 2023, 12:42:29 Quote 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. There seem to have been quite a few niggly cancellations and delays over the past few weeks. Nothing like as bad as it was in the good old days but it's becoming noticeable. I've been following the record of this Paddington to Hereford train lately. Seems to run late (and get progressively later) very often, resulting in terminating short of destination sometimes, or a late return working. Also a high-up-the-list candidate for cancellation It's almost as if either the powers-that-be or the fates have decided that travellers need to be deterred from using a train if they want to get to Hereford from London with ease. And it's failed to get there today: Quote 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. 09:52 delayed further at Wolvercote Junction and at Evesham.It has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 33 minutes late. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:25/07/2023 11:47 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:25/07/2023 11:48 And the omens are not good for the 11:52 Paddington - Hereford, which left Paddington 44 late. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 25, 2023, 17:24:55 1W02 11:52 Paddington - Hereford arrived Shrub Hill 56 late. Cancelled thereafter.
1P04 13:18 Hereford - Paddington cancelled throughout "due to a problem with the train". 1P05 15:18 Hereford - Paddington started from Shrub Hill. Quote 16:58 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:25/07/2023 16:46 19:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:25/07/2023 16:47 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on July 25, 2023, 18:19:14 Quote 16:58 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:25/07/2023 16:46 So it's the 17:34 Paddington to Hereford service... for some at least: Quote 17:34 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:26 will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Evesham and Worcestershire Parkway Hl. It has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 37 minutes late. This is due to this train being late from the depot. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 25, 2023, 19:04:53 But the 17:57 from Paddington to Foregate Street is now in front of the 17:34 to Hereford.
And it has been given the path over the single line from Wolvercote Junction. Meanwhile the 18:02 from Foregate Street to Paddington is drumming its fingers at Charlbury. At 19:38: The 17:57 arrived at Charlbury 17 late. The 18:02 from Foregate Street has set off from Charlbury (16 late) and passed Wolvercote 11 late. The 17:34 to Hereford was held at Wolvercote but has now set off, 60 late. But is supposed to be running non-stop to Shrub Hill. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 26, 2023, 03:09:20 Later:
Signal problems meant delays between Paddington and Reading. 1W03 17:34 Paddington - Hereford : left 36 late, held at Wolvercote, arrived 65 late. 1W34 17:57 Paddington - Foregate Street : 14 late at Reading, arrived 25 late. 1W36 18:57 Paddington - Great Malvern : delayed between Paddington and Reading, arrived 15 late. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on July 26, 2023, 10:28:42 But the 17:57 from Paddington to Foregate Street is now in front of the 17:34 to Hereford. And it has been given the path over the single line from Wolvercote Junction. Meanwhile the 18:02 from Foregate Street to Paddington is drumming its fingers at Charlbury. At 19:38: The 17:57 arrived at Charlbury 17 late. The 18:02 from Foregate Street has set off from Charlbury (16 late) and passed Wolvercote 11 late. The 17:34 to Hereford was held at Wolvercote but has now set off, 60 late. But is supposed to be running non-stop to Shrub Hill. It's like a timewarp back to the bad old days before the 2011 re-doubling of several miles of the OWW Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 26, 2023, 13:45:43 The signalling problems between Paddington and Reading are affecting services, though this is not always being reported on JourneyCheck.
1P11 05:14 Shrub Hill - Paddington : arrived 25 late. 1P02 05:23 Hereford - Paddington : arrived 22 late. 1P16 06:43 Shrub Hill - Paddington : arrived 22 late. 1P18 07:13 Great Malvern - Paddington : cancelled between Great Malvern and Foregate St due to a signal failure (RTT). Arrived 24 late. 1P20 08:15 Shrub Hill - Paddington : arrived 22 late. 1P22 08:56 Great Malvern - Paddington : arrived 3 late. What was different here? 1P24 09:54 Great Malvern - Paddington : arrived 18 late. 1P28 12:17 Great Malvern - Paddington : cancelled between Great Malvern and Foregate St. Quote 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22 will be started from Great Malvern. This is due to a fault with the signalling system. Last Updated:26/07/2023 11:37 1W15 07:50 Paddington - Great Malvern : 17 late by Reading, arrived 17 late. 1W17 08:51 Paddington - Great Malvern : 21 late at Reading, 22 late at Shrub Hill and cancelled thereafter. 1W01 09:52 Paddington - Hereford : left Paddington 28 late, 49 late at Reading. Cancelled after arriving 60 late at Great Malvern. 1W21 10:53 Paddington - Shrub Hill : left Paddington 11 late, 18 late at Reading. Arrived 14 late. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on July 27, 2023, 10:26:27 Quote 08:56 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 11:24 has been delayed at Evesham and is now 15 minutes late. This is due to passengers causing a disturbance on this train. Oh dear Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 27, 2023, 14:43:29 The 09:52 got to Hereford and back today, but the second one is having problems:
Quote 11:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 14:41 will be terminated at Great Malvern. It has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 42 minutes late. This is due to a fault on a train in front of this one. Last Updated:27/07/2023 12:59 15:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be started from Great Malvern. This is due to a broken down train. Last Updated:27/07/2023 13:00 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on July 28, 2023, 13:50:59 Quote 11:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 14:41 has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 31 minutes late. This is due to a fault on this train. Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9 42 late Charlbury according to RTT 1W01 0952 Paddington to Hereford got to it's destination today, a mere 7 minutes late Four trains a day each way between Paddington and Hereford - but not to be relied on. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 28, 2023, 16:32:18 The 11:52 to Hereford has not had a good week:
Friday July 28 1W02 11:52 Paddington - Hereford : late arrival from depot, departed 31 late. Held at Wolvercote. Lost more time at Shrub Hill and Malvern Wells. Arrived Ledbury 67 late and cancelled after that. 1P05 15:18 Hereford - Paddington : started from Ledbury. Thursday July 27 1W02 11:52 Paddington - Hereford : late arrival from depot, departed 42 late. Lost more time at Shrub Hill. Arrived Great Malvern 60 late and cancelled after that. Wednesday July 26 1W02 11:52 Paddington - Hereford : late arrival from depot (+15), departed 8 late. Lost more time at Shrub Hill. Arrived 15 late. Tuesday July 25 1W02 11:52 Paddington - Hereford : late arrival from depot (+49), departed 44 late. Lost more time to Reading (+56). Arrived Shrub Hill 59 late and cancelled after that. Monday July 24 1W02 11:52 Paddington - Hereford : everything worked OK. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on July 28, 2023, 20:21:14 With nearly three days down to signal failure outside Paddington, no surprise & others will have faired similarly this week
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: grahame on July 28, 2023, 20:44:35 With nearly three days down to signal failure outside Paddington, no surprise & others will have faired similarly this week About half of tomorrow's services to and from Paddington cancelled compared to a normal Saturday - counting lines on real time trains for GWR gives me 184 movements tomorrow and 367 for 5th August. Moreton-in-Marsh shows a single train tomorrow at 00:36 to Worcesteshire Parkway. It shows 36 departures for 5th August, half to Hanborough and most of the rest to Worcester or Great Malvern, with one each to Hereford and Worcestershire Parkway. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on July 28, 2023, 20:55:51 Block at Oxford for the next 9 days. Nothing between Didcot & Hanborough until August 7
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on July 31, 2023, 15:42:17 The 11:52 to Hereford has not had a good week: Friday July 28 1W02 11:52 Paddington - Hereford : late arrival from depot, departed 31 late. Held at Wolvercote. Lost more time at Shrub Hill and Malvern Wells. Arrived Ledbury 67 late and cancelled after that. 1P05 15:18 Hereford - Paddington : started from Ledbury. Thursday July 27 1W02 11:52 Paddington - Hereford : late arrival from depot, departed 42 late. Lost more time at Shrub Hill. Arrived Great Malvern 60 late and cancelled after that. Wednesday July 26 1W02 11:52 Paddington - Hereford : late arrival from depot (+15), departed 8 late. Lost more time at Shrub Hill. Arrived 15 late. Tuesday July 25 1W02 11:52 Paddington - Hereford : late arrival from depot (+49), departed 44 late. Lost more time to Reading (+56). Arrived Shrub Hill 59 late and cancelled after that. Monday July 24 1W02 11:52 Paddington - Hereford : everything worked OK. I wonder if the performance of 1W02 is irredeemable? Got to Hereford today 9 minutes late after starting (only from Hanborough on time), and then losing minutes here and there all the way onwards from Kingham to it's destination. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on July 31, 2023, 21:04:54 Presumably losing time slowly but surely is down to the low power issue being discussed in the IET topic.
Meanwhile, it's noticeable that the problems with 1W02 were not experienced last week with the two later trains to Hereford. 1W03, the 17:34 Paddington - Hereford, arrived 9 / 65 / -1 / 95 / -1 minutes late on the five days, while 1W05, the 19:53 from Paddington arrived 0 / 5 / -1 / 5 / 0 minutes late. I'd suspect that the problem with 1W02 is down to the fact that its previous journey was empty from North Pole. That's a conflicting movement out of the depot, which has the potential to cause delays. Now some trains that have spent the previous night at the likes of Worcester or Hereford will have to go to North Pole during the day for fuel and for the toilets to be emptied. If the signalling problem had gone on longer, then the diagrams would have been reorganised so that nothing went to and from North Pole during the middle of the day. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 02, 2023, 16:18:24 Wednesday August 2:
Quote 15:17 Worcester Foregate Street to Hanborough due 16:22 will be cancelled. This is due to a broken windscreen on the train. Last Updated:02/08/2023 14:44 16:54 Hanborough to Great Malvern due 18:26 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to a broken windscreen on the train. Last Updated:02/08/2023 14:45 19:33 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 22:08 will be terminated at Swindon. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:02/08/2023 11:05 20:55 Hanborough to Hereford due 22:58 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:02/08/2023 11:02 Hanborough is not a good place to wait for an extra hour. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 02, 2023, 18:14:06 Getting worse:
Quote 19:33 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 22:08 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:02/08/2023 17:05 But somebody is being sensible: Quote 17:34 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa due 19:37 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:02/08/2023 10:22 17:31 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:26 will call additionally at Kemble, Stroud, Stonehouse and Cheltenham Spa. This is due to the train making extra stops because a train was cancelled. Last Updated:02/08/2023 16:22 ... unless you're wanting to go to Gloucester. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 03, 2023, 07:23:56 Thursday August 3:
Quote 05:23 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:20 was started from Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:03/08/2023 06:56 Now, here's a curious thing. I looked to see what the alternatives would have been from Great Malvern, and I get the attached. Which wants me to get off my direct train at Swindon and change to a Swansea that doesn't stop at Reading and so saves four minutes. OK, the direct train appears as well, but you do have to ask why bother? Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: stuving on August 03, 2023, 10:43:43 Thursday August 3: Now, here's a curious thing. I looked to see what the alternatives would have been from Great Malvern, and I get the attached. Which wants me to get off my direct train at Swindon and change to a Swansea that doesn't stop at Reading and so saves four minutes. OK, the direct train appears as well, but you do have to ask why bother? You don't have to - but the OJP has to select on the basis of what it's been told to do, and (in most cases) that is earliest arrival for any departure time. Adding other filter rules, like offering direct trains as well (probably with the same selection metric among them) should be OK in some cases. Of course every complication adds scope for mistakes and, given the complexity an inconsistency of the fares and timetable data it's fed on, weird results. But if you expect the thing to know how big a time difference you think would make switching trains worthwhile, bearing in mind that someone else might have different views on that, is problematical. If you think about it, even deciding how much choice to offer, as opposed to providing the one and only answer, involves pre-judging the user's level of understanding of the system. Adding lowest cost as an additional selection comes up frequently in users' comments, but has proved tricky. Of course sellers may not be motivated to try very hard; NRE has a cheap fare finder, but they hardly promote it. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 03, 2023, 11:36:45 Thursday August 3: Now, here's a curious thing. I looked to see what the alternatives would have been from Great Malvern, and I get the attached. Which wants me to get off my direct train at Swindon and change to a Swansea that doesn't stop at Reading and so saves four minutes. OK, the direct train appears as well, but you do have to ask why bother? You don't have to - but the OJP has to select on the basis of what it's been told to do, and (in most cases) that is earliest arrival for any departure time. Adding other filter rules, like offering direct trains as well (probably with the same selection metric among them) should be OK in some cases. Of course every complication adds scope for mistakes and, given the complexity an inconsistency of the fares and timetable data it's fed on, weird results. But if you expect the thing to know how big a time difference you think would make switching trains worthwhile, bearing in mind that someone else might have different views on that, is problematical. If you think about it, even deciding how much choice to offer, as opposed to providing the one and only answer, involves pre-judging the user's level of understanding of the system. Adding lowest cost as an additional selection comes up frequently in users' comments, but has proved tricky. Of course sellers may not be motivated to try very hard; NRE has a cheap fare finder, but they hardly promote it. You are of course quite right. Adding the fares, as attached, is even better - it's cheaper to change at Swindon. Though should you be offering cheap Advance tickets on a train that arrives at Paddington at 08:16? Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Mark A on August 03, 2023, 13:20:53 Though should you be offering cheap Advance tickets on a train that arrives at Paddington at 08:16? Especially if it will fill a seat left otherwise unsold and bring in revenue. Not a great fan of advance tickets at slightly reduced prices (or which are actually more expensive than walk-up tickets, though) As a passenger booking advance tickets, I'm now in the habit of finding the cost, for a particular journey, of an "Annual season ticket divided by 365". Like the annual season ticket holder, in the past having been committed to using rail for many journeys, it's a useful figure to have in mind as a floor for the price of a ticket. Whether it then has any basis in reality to consider that "Anything below that floor feels like a distress sell for the railway, while anything above it is a distress purchase for me" is another matter... Mark Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 07, 2023, 09:48:48 Monday August 7:
Quote 07:13 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 09:40 will be cancelled. Train 1W13, 06:50 Paddington - Great Malvern, which forms the 09:54, was cancelled after Shrub Hill this morning. Stock is returning to North Pole empty.This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:06/08/2023 22:26 09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:22 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:07/08/2023 09:07 18:57 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 21:21 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:07/08/2023 07:04 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on August 07, 2023, 11:47:02 Monday August 7: Train 1W13, 06:50 Paddington - Great Malvern, which forms the 09:54, was cancelled after Shrub Hill this morning. Stock is returning to North Pole empty.[/quote] You have to wonder why it's returned ECS to London. The only thing I can think of is that it would get the driver back to depot sooner, and therefore may have been before the "overtime" length of the shift had been reached? Who's thinking of the passengers and growing the railway in all this? Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on August 07, 2023, 11:58:24 1W01 0952 Paddington to Hereford today
On time to Oxford, 8 late off there, now 9 late off Evesham Will it get to Hereford today? Why is train travel in these parts such a lottery? So far, 1W02, the 1152 to Hereford is on time Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 07, 2023, 14:12:52 1W01 0952 Paddington to Hereford today On time to Oxford, 8 late off there, now 9 late off Evesham Will it get to Hereford today? No. It got to Foregate Street (due 12:07) 7 late, but then sat there in platform 1 for 29 minutes. Eventually arrived Great Malvern 44 late and cancelled after that. Its return working is reported as Quote 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22 will be started from Great Malvern. This is due to a fault on a train in front of this one. Last Updated:07/08/2023 12:58 If you're not familiar with the oddities of our line, Foregate Street has two platforms but each of them is a bi-directional single track line. So platform 1 connects round to Shrub Hill while platform 2 is used by trains to and from Birmingham. So, with platform 1 blocked, train 1P28, the 11:57 Great Malvern - Paddington, had to wait over the other side of the river. Eventually left Foregate Street 33 late and had to be held at Charlbury. Now 50 late, though that's not mentioned on JourneyCheck. Backed up behind that, the 11:40 Hereford - Birmingham New Street had to wait at Newland East and left there 24 late. And waiting patiently at Shrub Hill for the two Londons to sort themselves out, the 10:38 Bristol Temple Meads - Foregate Street arrived 29 late at 12:50. Which saved it having to do the short journey across the river to the turnback siding at Henwick. So it went back towards Bristol on time at 12:53. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on August 07, 2023, 14:45:16 1W02 1152 from Paddington to Hereford arrived at Oxford around 1 minutes late, departed 4 minutes late and has just lost more and more time as it heads west. Currently it's 33 minutes down at Malvern Link
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 07, 2023, 17:32:25 1P28 11:57 Great Malvern - Paddington ended up being cancelled after arriving 53 late at Reading.
1W29 14:53 Paddington - Foregate Street started from Reading. Quote 15:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 18:26 has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 30 minutes late. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:07/08/2023 16:28 18:57 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 21:21 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:07/08/2023 13:00 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on August 09, 2023, 08:13:10 05:14 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington "cancelled due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI)".
Following two trains 05:23 Hereford to Paddington and 06:43 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington both short-formed though only former reported on JourneyCheck. The 06:43 was full and standing before it got to Oxford. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 09, 2023, 22:08:14 Quote 21:53 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:02 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:09/08/2023 19:37 This does not bode well for the 05:14 from Shrub Hill to Paddington on Thursday morning. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 10, 2023, 08:54:11 Quote 21:53 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:02 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:09/08/2023 19:37 This does not bode well for the 05:14 from Shrub Hill to Paddington on Thursday morning. Meanwhile Quote 08:51 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 11:14 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:10/08/2023 04:18 11:57 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 14:22 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:10/08/2023 04:19 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 11, 2023, 07:59:38 Quote 05:23 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:24 will be cancelled. This is due to the train driver being taken ill. Last Updated:11/08/2023 05:14 07:13 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 09:40 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:11/08/2023 02:47 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 will be cancelled. This is due to the train driver being taken ill. Last Updated:11/08/2023 05:43 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on August 11, 2023, 09:39:53 Quote 15:17 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:24 will be terminated at Reading. It will no longer call at London Paddington. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 9. 1W25 1253 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street is also showing as being formed of a 2-car DMU on RTT, but I can't see a mention of it on JourneyCheck RTT is also showing that 1W01 0952 Paddington to Hereford is cancelled throughout, but the corresponding return, 1P04 1318 ex Hereford, is still running. Perhaps. Maybe. Who knows? Edit to amend information: RTT is now showing the 1253 from Paddington and the 1517 return from Worcester Foregate Street ans being covered by a 3-car DMU (1015, 11/08/2023) Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 11, 2023, 13:52:17 07:50 Paddington - Great Malvern departed 22 late. Arrived Shrub Hill 22 late and cancelled thereafter.
Return jorney, 10:59 Great Malvern - Paddington, started from Shrub Hill. Today the 07:50 was formed from the back half of the 04:59 Swansea - Paddington, due into Paddington at 07:44 but actually arriving 17 late. The three-car 15:17 from Foregate Street will be very cos once it has collected the day-out traffic at Oxford at 16:30. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 11, 2023, 15:41:58 RTT is also showing that 1W01 0952 Paddington to Hereford is cancelled throughout, but the corresponding return, 1P04 1318 ex Hereford, is still running. Perhaps. Maybe. Who knows? 1W01 was indeed cancelled throughout. 1P04, the 13:18 from Hereford, was formed of the stock that should have been the 05:23 Hereford - Paddington. It departed 38 late, recovered a bit of time but was then held at Norton and is now 41 late, unreported on JourneyCheck. Fortunately it won't get held at Charlbury, as 1W29, the 14:53 Paddington - Foregate Street, departed 22 late and is now 20 late, again unreported on JourneyCheck. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 11, 2023, 16:10:30 Quote 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22 will be terminated at Reading. It will no longer call at London Paddington. This is due to the train driver being taken ill. Last Updated:11/08/2023 15:51 16:58 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be started from Reading. It will no longer call at London Paddington. This is due to the train driver being taken ill. Last Updated:11/08/2023 15:51 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on August 11, 2023, 17:08:12 THe 1517 3-car DMU from Foregate Street did pretty well - kept time to Oxford, which may show that the bigger express units are not really working very hard on the OWW route. It arrived at Reading 9 minutes late, after a six minute late departure from Oxford
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on August 11, 2023, 17:37:25 THe 1517 3-car DMU from Foregate Street did pretty well - kept time to Oxford, which may show that the bigger express units are not really working very hard on the OWW route. Not much difference. A maximum linespeed of 100mph with lots of 75/90mph sections too. The IETs on diesel accelerate a little better than a turbo, but nothing to write home about. Perhaps a minute of so quicker up Campden Bank as they’ll get to 70-75mph whereas a turbo only reaches 55 or thereabouts. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on August 14, 2023, 14:46:49 In the Across the West sub-forum, the number of short-formations is being commented upon: "problems with IETs▸ continue, with short formations being routine."
So, having a quick look at the first three London bound services since 7 August, we have: 0514 WOS:PAD - cancelled 9 & 10 August, short-formed 7 August 0523 HFD:PAD - cancelled 11 August, short-formed 9 & 10 August 0643 WOS:PAD - short-formed 9,10 & 14 August (not to mention the loss of a whole train from the timetable in May). And, as also mentioned "The present situation is a powerful deterrent to use of GWR services. Reserving a seat does not much help as reservations are voided on half length trains." From experience, the 0643 is pretty much full by Oxford when short-formed. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on August 14, 2023, 17:24:11 Rejoice!
Both 1W01 (0952) and 1W02 (1152) Paddington to Hereford trains managed to reach their destination today. And both were less than 15 minutes late when they got there. I have a feeling this may be some kind of record Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on August 16, 2023, 08:35:15 Two cancellations from yesterday (15 August)
1704 Didcot Parkway to Moreton-in-Marsh and the returning 1851 Evesham to Oxford. And some more morning short-formations: 15 Aug - 0514 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington Today - 0523 Hereford to Paddington and 0643 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 16, 2023, 12:54:29 And some more morning short-formations: 15 Aug - 0514 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington Today - 0523 Hereford to Paddington and 0643 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington And a "long-formation" (if that makes sense). Today train 1W11, the 05:53 Paddington - Great Malvern (arrive 08:38), and the return working 1P22, the 08:56 Great Malvern - Paddington, were operated by a 9-car unit. It was only a 5-car on Monday and Tuesday. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on August 16, 2023, 13:46:49 As a result of the issues in the Didcot area:
Quote 12:53 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 15:00 has been cancelled. This is due to a fault with the signalling system. whilst the previous service, 11:52 Paddington to Hereford, is currently going through Didcot North 69 minutes late, and will terminate at Great Malvern. updated to add details of 11:52 truncation Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 16, 2023, 20:00:58 As a result of the issues in the Didcot area: It lost even more time - 77 late at Oxford, 97 late at Shrub Hill - and 110 late at Great Malvern.whilst the previous service, 11:52 Paddington to Hereford, is currently going through Didcot North 69 minutes late, and will terminate at Great Malvern. The return journey, normally the 15:18 from Hereford, left Great Malvern 27 late and was held at Charlbury. It arrived at Paddington 31 late. And there's another cancellation this evening: Quote 18:57 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 21:21 will be cancelled. Note the time-stamp. I had assumed that it would be reinstated at some stage, but no.This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:16/08/2023 02:22 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 17, 2023, 09:48:52 Quote Facilities on the 12:53 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 15:00. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 9. Last Updated:17/08/2023 08:52 15:17 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:24 will be terminated at Reading. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 9. Last Updated:17/08/2023 08:53 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on August 17, 2023, 09:53:43 For the record, both the 0523 Hereford to Paddington and 0643 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington were short-formed again this morning.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 17, 2023, 14:12:30 Quote 11:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 14:41 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It has been previously delayed and is now 23 minutes late from Moreton-In-Marsh. This is due to this train being late from the depot. Last Updated:17/08/2023 13:52 The empty journey from the depot ran 29 late. It left Paddington 24 late, recovered a bit of time but then lost it again. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 17, 2023, 17:13:48 Quote 16:58 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:17/08/2023 15:19 19:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:27 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:17/08/2023 15:19 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on August 18, 2023, 18:00:42 Quote 18:57 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 21:21 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. And two more peak London bound short-formations this morning - 5.14 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington and, for the third day running, 5:23 Hereford to Paddington. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 18, 2023, 21:25:40 RTT reports that
1W31 15:52 Paddington to Great Malvern (5 cars) was cancelled after Shrub Hill due to a signalling systems failure. 1W33 16:58 Paddington to Great Malvern (5 cars) was cancelled after Shrub Hill due to a signalling systems failure. 1W03 17:34 Paddington to Hereford (5 cars) was held for 12 minutes at Worcestershire Parkway. It arrived at Hereford 26 late. 1W34 17:57 Paddington to Foregate Street (5 cars) was held at Evesham and arrived 16 late. 1P40 18:02 Foregate Street to Paddington was cancelled throughout. JourneyCheck reports that Quote 18:57 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 21:21 will be cancelled. It was held at Norton Junction and is now 23 late.This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:18/08/2023 13:52 19:05 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:24 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to a fault with the signalling system. Last Updated:18/08/2023 18:59 Quote 19:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:24 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to a fault with the signalling system. Last Updated:18/08/2023 19:22 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on August 18, 2023, 21:32:14 The CLPG have been informed that "20 or so 800s are with Hitachi awaiting parts (the contract provides for only 13 undergoing overhauls at any one time)) and are told they are having to use several trains running with one diesel engine out of use. Mark Hopwood has been very vocal with Hitachi and the DfT on the issue and accusing breach of contract by Hitachi. The latter blame shortage of parts.
But MTU apparently blaming Hitachi design faults with inadequate cooling systems which they apparently raised when it decided to uprate the 800s to 940 bhp ." Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 18, 2023, 22:24:40 JourneyCheck is reporting
Quote 20:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 23:12 has been delayed at Reading and is now 21 minutes late. This is due to a road vehicle colliding with a bridge. Last Updated:18/08/2023 22:00 ...whilst RTT has Quote This service was cancelled between Oxford and Great Malvern due to animals on the line (I8). Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: AMLAG on August 18, 2023, 22:56:53 1203 Padd to Penzance today was terminated, very unusually, at Redruth arrg at 1716 39 late “Due problems with the traction equipment” It had already had its Totnes stop cut out and was specially given a clear run there; shades of the times when HSTs on one power car did not stop at Totnes or had a loco attached over the steep South Devon banks. With the steadily increasing number of GW based IETs running with engines isolated, might we see a Thunderbird loco. based at Exeter ?! Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on August 19, 2023, 09:00:19 This is the Board for the North Cotswold Line, mods please move that stray animal above.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on August 19, 2023, 15:24:02 Quote 12:52 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 15:11 will be terminated at Oxford. This is due to a fault on this train. 13:05 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 15:22 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. 14:50 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 17:23 has been cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. 18:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 21:13 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. 19:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 22:23 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. 21:52 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:08 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. 22:42 Great Malvern to Evesham due 23:22 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 19, 2023, 19:38:13 Getting worse:
Quote 19:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 22:23 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:19/08/2023 17:52 21:52 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:08 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:19/08/2023 19:08 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 21, 2023, 04:47:22 On Sunday August 20, Shrub Hill was closed and trains from London were turning round at Worcestershire Parkway.
There was only one cancellation, the 19:44 Paddington - Worcestershire Parkway, which was cancelled after Oxford. According to RTT, "This service was cancelled between Oxford and Worcestershire Parkway due to the planned train being replaced with a slower train (MS)". The "slower train" being a five-car Turbo. Cancelling it at Oxford did at least save the long empty journey it should have made back to Stoke Gifford by way of Oxford and Bath. Meanwhile, on Monday August 21: Quote 05:14 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 07:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:21/08/2023 01:09 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on August 21, 2023, 09:37:22 1P11 0514 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington was cancelled today, "at operators request" according to RTT
The OWW well and truly lives up to it's nickname, these days Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on August 21, 2023, 17:23:48 Meanwhile, on Monday August 21: Quote 05:14 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 07:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:21/08/2023 01:09 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 21, 2023, 22:35:21 Some late running this evening, none of which made it onto JourneyCheck:
1W36 18:57 London Paddington to Great Malvern - on time to Reading, but sat there for 48 minutes. Arrived Shrub Hill 77 late and cancelled thereafter. 1W05 19:53 London Paddington to Hereford - on time to Oxford. Held at Wolvercote (for 1P42 and 1P44), left there 47 late. Arrived 53 late. 1W41 20:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern. Left Paddington 36 late. Arrived 39 late 1P42 19:05 Great Malvern to London Paddington - departed 23 late, held at Norton Junction and at Charlbury (for 1W36 above). Arrived 54 late. 1P44 19:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington - departed 12 late. Arrived 12 late. Occupation of the single line between Wolvercote and Charlbury: Train Schedule Actual 1W36 19:51-20:03 20:57-21:06 1P42 20:14-20:26 21:06-21:18 1W05 20:49-21:01 21:36-21:50 1P44 21:10-21:25 21:24-21:36 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 24, 2023, 10:32:58 Quote 07:13 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 09:40 is being delayed at Great Malvern. The empty train left the depot 13 early, but waited for some time at Shrub Hill and got to Great Malvern 16 late.This is due to this train being late from the depot. Last Updated:24/08/2023 07:13 The 07:13 departed 13 late, but was held at Henwick and Charlbury (33 late), was 26 late at Slough but lost more time on the approach to Paddington. Arrived 49 late. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on August 24, 2023, 12:34:47 Quote 07:13 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 09:40 is being delayed at Great Malvern. The empty train left the depot 13 early, but waited for some time at Shrub Hill and got to Great Malvern 16 late.This is due to this train being late from the depot. Last Updated:24/08/2023 07:13 The 07:13 departed 13 late, but was held at Henwick and Charlbury (33 late), was 26 late at Slough but lost more time on the approach to Paddington. Arrived 49 late. What a way to run a railroad Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 24, 2023, 13:00:32 Quote 10:53 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 13:01 will be terminated at Oxford. It is being delayed between London Paddington and Reading and is now expected to be 34 minutes late. This is due to a fault with the signalling system. Last Updated:24/08/2023 11:40 13:16 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 15:22 will be started from Oxford. This is due to a fault with the signalling system. Last Updated:24/08/2023 11:44 Meanwhile, train 1P26, 10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington spent 41 minutes sat in Foregate Street's platform 1 due to a more local signalling failure. Still yet to be reported on JourneyCheck. This forced trains 2E55 09:38 Bristol Temple Meads to Worcester Foregate Street and 2V36 10:03 Dorridge to Worcester Foregate Street and their return workings to be terminated at Shrub Hill. The problem with the Bristol train is reported on JourneyCheck. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 24, 2023, 15:22:12 Unreported on JourneyCheck, train 1W02, the 1152 London Paddington to Hereford, left Paddington on time, was 15 late at Oxford, lost time thereafter and was terminated at Shrub Hill having arrived there 27 late. Reported on RTT as being "due to an issue with the train crew (TH)".
Quote 12:53 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 15:00 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. This train departed Paddington 27 late and ran that late throughout.This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption. Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9. Last Updated:24/08/2023 14:13 Quote 15:17 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:24 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption. Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9. Last Updated:24/08/2023 14:13 21:53 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:10 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:24/08/2023 15:07 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 24, 2023, 16:39:04 1W27 1350 London Paddington to Great Malvern departed 21 late. Arrived Shrub Hill 27 late and cancelled thereafter.
In consequence Quote 16:32 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:29 will be started from Worcester Foregate Street. This is due to congestion. Last Updated:24/08/2023 16:16 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 24, 2023, 18:18:46 Train 1P34 15:17 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington.
RTT reports: started from Shrub Hill, 12 late. Held for 14 minutes at Charlbury. Arrived 24 late. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 25, 2023, 08:35:13 In the interests of completeness, we should record problems with yesterday's (Thu Aug 24) train 1P06 22:00 Hereford to London Paddington.
This left Hereford on time, was held at Norton (for 1W41 20:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern, which lost time between Oxford and Worcester, arriving at Malvern 15 late) and at Charlbury and arrived at Paddington 24 late. But ... does this lateness matter? Does anybody travel on this train? You have to ask what it is for - would it not be more sensible to leave it parked in the sidings at Shrub Hill and use it on an early journey to Paddington? Meanwhile, in early journeys to Paddington today (Fri Aug 25): 1P11 0514 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington was cancelled throughout, "due to an issue with the train crew (TG)" according to RTT. Quote 25/08/23 06:43 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 08:43 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:24/08/2023 22:56 07:13 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 09:40 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:25/08/2023 06:51 25/08/23 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:24/08/2023 22:59 So, at Evesham, the trains towards Paddington were 05:35 cancelled 06:35 from Hereford - OK 07:00 cancelled 07:21 halts train (to Oxford and Didcot Parkway), just 2 cars 07:51 cancelled 08:35 from Shrub Hill - OK Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on August 25, 2023, 10:20:39 The halts train is usually 2 cars as the halts station platforms are two cars long.
They could use SDO stock, but a 2car turbo is cheaper. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: grahame on August 25, 2023, 11:28:27 The halts train is usually 2 cars as the halts station platforms are two cars long. They could use SDO stock, but a 2car turbo is cheaper. Indeed it is cheaper. It is probably inadequate too if the previous train was cancelled! Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on August 25, 2023, 11:51:30 But ... does this lateness matter? Does anybody travel on this train? You have to ask what it is for - would it not be more sensible to leave it parked in the sidings at Shrub Hill and use it on an early journey to Paddington? It’s ironic that it’s by far the most reliable of the Hereford to London trains, but hardly anyone uses it for that journey. There will usually be up to a dozen on board from Hereford getting off at either Ledbury or Worcester, a few more join there (on a Friday night a couple of dozen), a few more on at Parkway, but mostly they will leave at Pershore/Evesham. Then you’ll usually be in single figures to Oxford where up to another couple of dozen will join (twice that on a Friday), mostly heading to Didcot. From there you might have a couple of dozen boarding and alighting through to Paddington (again, quite a lot more on a Friday). So, a one car Class 153 would be ideal, apart from a Friday when you might need a two or three car Turbo. A 9-car IET is a little bit of an over provision to put it mildly. It’s not alone in that regard for a late evening service heading to Paddington though. And if it didn’t run at all beyond Worcester I’m sure the locals wouldn’t be happy about having a last train to Evesham, Oxford and London as early as 9pm. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on August 25, 2023, 12:14:55 In the interests of completeness, we should record problems with yesterday's (Thu Aug 24) train 1P06 22:00 Hereford to London Paddington. This left Hereford on time, was held at Norton (for 1W41 20:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern, which lost time between Oxford and Worcester, arriving at Malvern 15 late) and at Charlbury and arrived at Paddington 24 late. But ... does this lateness matter? Does anybody travel on this train? You have to ask what it is for - would it not be more sensible to leave it parked in the sidings at Shrub Hill and use it on an early journey to Paddington? Meanwhile, in early journeys to Paddington today (Fri Aug 25): 1P11 0514 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington was cancelled throughout, "due to an issue with the train crew (TG)" according to RTT. Quote 25/08/23 06:43 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 08:43 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:24/08/2023 22:56 07:13 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 09:40 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:25/08/2023 06:51 25/08/23 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:24/08/2023 22:59 So, at Evesham, the trains towards Paddington were 05:35 cancelled 06:35 from Hereford - OK 07:00 cancelled 07:21 halts train (to Oxford and Didcot Parkway), just 2 cars 07:51 cancelled 08:35 from Shrub Hill - OK Complete shambles Reliability of any of the OWW services these days is somewhere close to zero. The only thing that can be relied on is that there will be cancellations and delays every day Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on August 25, 2023, 12:17:41 But ... does this lateness matter? Does anybody travel on this train? You have to ask what it is for - would it not be more sensible to leave it parked in the sidings at Shrub Hill and use it on an early journey to Paddington? It’s ironic that it’s by far the most reliable of the Hereford to London trains, but hardly anyone uses it for that journey. There will usually be up to a dozen on board from Hereford getting off at either Ledbury or Worcester, a few more join there (on a Friday night a couple of dozen), a few more on at Parkway, but mostly they will leave at Pershore/Evesham. Then you’ll usually be in single figures to Oxford where up to another couple of dozen will join (twice that on a Friday), mostly heading to Didcot. From there you might have a couple of dozen boarding and alighting through to Paddington (again, quite a lot more on a Friday). So, a one car Class 153 would be ideal, apart from a Friday when you might need a two or three car Turbo. A 9-car IET is a little bit of an over provision to put it mildly. It’s not alone in that regard for a late evening service heading to Paddington though. And if it didn’t run at all beyond Worcester I’m sure the locals wouldn’t be happy about having a last train to Evesham, Oxford and London as early as 9pm. Isn't this just a working to balance the rolling stock? Could be ECS but, as it's running, why not take a few quid in fares Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on August 25, 2023, 14:44:11 1W27 1350 Paddington to Great Malvern cancelled throughout today because of a problem with the doors on the unit
and the return working, 1P38 1632 Great Malvern to Paddington, is also scrubbed According to RTT this should have been operated by 802009 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on August 25, 2023, 15:59:53 Nightmare of a day continues
1P25 1253 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street, 30 late starting out from Padd, 49 late arriving at Shrub Hill where it was terminated and started back to London as 1P34, 30+ late Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 25, 2023, 19:33:29 RTT reports:
1W27 13:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern This service was cancelled due to a problem with the doors (M7). JourneyCheck: Quote 16:32 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:29 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:25/08/2023 14:11 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on August 28, 2023, 10:32:57 And today, it being Bank Holiday Monday, the 'halts' train does not operate.
But RTT records this with a curious choice of words: Quote This service was cancelled due to the planned cancellation (was not planned to operate) (PD). And we have plenty of notice for a cancellation this evening: Quote 18:57 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 21:21 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:28/08/2023 02:00 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on August 31, 2023, 14:15:24 Quote 12:53 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 15:00 will be terminated at Reading. This is due to a problem with line-side equipment. Quote 15:17 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:24 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street. This is due to a problem with line-side equipment. I have questions! Particularly as RTT shows: Quote This service was cancelled between Reading and Worcester Foregate Street due to disorder (VA). Edit: to include additional information Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on August 31, 2023, 14:17:40 ECS to WOS?
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on August 31, 2023, 14:21:36 ECS to WOS? Yes. RTT says 802009 for outward and return services. But why? Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on August 31, 2023, 14:26:24 Disorder? Maybe the BTP wanted evidence?
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on August 31, 2023, 14:48:33 The ECS 5W25 is shown as a very short term provision in the timetable, 1318 Reading to Wocester Shrub Hill via Honeybourne. No details on RTT until the train reached Didcot North Jcn, 51 minutes late.
It's not going to be at Shrub Hill in time for a 1521 departure back towards Paddington, which is what the GW JourneyCheck is still showing Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on August 31, 2023, 15:13:13 Disorder? Maybe the BTP wanted evidence? Guard verbally abused and accused of being racist by a passenger. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 03, 2023, 15:48:01 From JourneyCheck:
Quote 19:44 London Paddington to Worcestershire Parkway Hl due 21:55 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:03/09/2023 14:18 According to RTT, on arrival at Worcestershire Parkway, this journey was scheduled to depart at 22:06 and run empty to Stoke Gifford, arriving 00:41. After this one, the last two trains are the 20:44 from Paddington, scheduled to run back empty to Oxford, and the 21:49, scheduled to run back empty to Evesham (arrive 01:17) and wait for the engineering work at Shrub Hill to be finished. Scheduled to depart 02:25, arriving into Shrub Hill at 02:45. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 03, 2023, 18:37:20 and later:
Quote 19:44 London Paddington to Worcestershire Parkway Hl due 21:55 will be reinstated and will now run as scheduled. Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5 from Oxford. First class not available. Catering is not available. Last Updated:03/09/2023 16:08 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 03, 2023, 21:01:20 and later: RTT is reporting that this train was formed of two 2-car Turbo units from Paddington to Oxford, and one 2-car unit from Oxford onwards.Quote 19:44 London Paddington to Worcestershire Parkway Hl due 21:55 will be reinstated and will now run as scheduled. Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 5 from Oxford. First class not available. Catering is not available. Last Updated:03/09/2023 16:08 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on September 06, 2023, 10:29:17 Some delays yesterday because a van struck a barrier at the Bruern level crossing (between Ascott-under-Wychwood and Kingham). I was on the 1053 Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill which was held-up for six minutes whilst the driver was being instructed to pass AW200 (the Bruern home signal) at danger. According to the train manager on our train, this process was taking up to 15 minutes earlier in the morning
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on September 07, 2023, 12:00:37 There were various issues with the early morning services yesterday (6 September) due to a track defect.
Realtime Trains suggests that both the 05:14 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington and 05:23 Hereford to Paddington services were sent via Swindon (the latter certainly didn't run along the North Cotswolds line) meaning the 06:43 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington was the first train of the day. Fortunately, it wasn't a short formation! Adding to the confusion, the GWR and National Rail apps weren't showing the progress of the services. The 06:43 WOS:PAD's first sign of life on Realtime Trains was after it departed Charlbury 8 minutes late. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on September 08, 2023, 12:35:58 Seems to me the will on the part of GWR to run trains to and from Hereford is hanging by a thread. The timetable says one thing, but reality day-to-day is often very different
Quote 11:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 14:41 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link, Great Malvern, Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Quote 15:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury, Colwall, Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Richard Fairhurst on September 11, 2023, 08:06:01 5-coach IET on the Oxfordshire Halts stopper this morning. Admittedly I haven’t caught this train for ages but I wasn’t expecting that!
Looks like the Hereford and Malvern starters both started short at Shrub Hill though… Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on September 13, 2023, 09:49:31 Looks like 2E77 0510 Oxford to Worcester Shrub Hill has been replaced the last two mornings by 5E80 0543 Oxford Up Carriage Siding to Worcester Shrub Hill. GThe latter was on-time leaving the sidings this morning, and substantially late thereafter. I can't image too many potential passengers will have been inconvenienced
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 13, 2023, 13:23:48 Looks like 2E77 0510 Oxford to Worcester Shrub Hill has been replaced the last two mornings by 5E80 0543 Oxford Up Carriage Siding to Worcester Shrub Hill. GThe latter was on-time leaving the sidings this morning, and substantially late thereafter. I can't image too many potential passengers will have been inconvenienced It is described on RTT asQuote This service was cancelled due to the planned cancellation (was not planned to operate) (PD). Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on September 13, 2023, 16:02:10 A very sad event has led to ...
1W31 and corresponding 1P42 return being caped Quote 15:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 18:26 will be cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train earlier. Last Updated:13/09/2023 15:28 Quote 19:05 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a person hit by a train earlier. Last Updated:13/09/2023 15:28 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 14, 2023, 10:01:11 From JourneyCheck:
Quote 08:51 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 11:14 has been cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:14/09/2023 09:01 11:57 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 14:22 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:14/09/2023 09:01 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 18, 2023, 14:24:23 From JourneyCheck:
Quote 13:16 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 15:22 has been cancelled. This is due to a safety inspection of the track. Last Updated:18/09/2023 13:18 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22 will be diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough and Oxford but will call additionally at Cheltenham Spa and Didcot Parkway. It will be delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to a safety inspection of the track. Last Updated:18/09/2023 14:12 Other delays being flagged up. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 18, 2023, 19:20:05 Quote 15:17 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:24 was started from Worcester Shrub Hill and will be terminated at Reading. It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street and London Paddington. It has been delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill and is now 55 minutes late. This is due to a safety inspection of the track earlier today. Last Updated:18/09/2023 16:26 17:57 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 20:07 will be started from Reading. It will no longer call at London Paddington. This is due to a safety inspection of the track earlier today. Last Updated:18/09/2023 16:26 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 19, 2023, 08:09:03 Quote Cancellations to services between Worcester Shrub Hill and Oxford Due to a safety inspection of the track between Honeybourne and Moreton-In-Marsh the line towards Oxford is blocked. Disruption is expected until 19:45 18/09. Train services between Worcester Shrub Hill and Oxford may be cancelled. Customer Advice We're sorry for the delay to your journey. There is a fault affecting the Oxford bound track between Honeybourne and Moreton-in-Marsh. Network Rail have staff on site who are working to repair it. Until this is done, we cannot run trains between Worcester Shrub Hill and Oxford. A limited service may be able to operate between Moreton-in-Marsh and Oxford. Last Updated:18/09/2023 19:32 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 16:32 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:29 will be diverted between Evesham and Reading and terminated at Reading. It has been delayed at Evesham and is now 105 minutes late. This is due to a safety inspection of the track. Last Updated:18/09/2023 19:43 17:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:54 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Shipton, Charlbury, Oxford, Didcot Parkway, Reading and London Paddington. This is due to a safety inspection of the track. Last Updated:18/09/2023 17:45 18:02 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 20:30 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill and diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading. It is being delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to a safety inspection of the track. Last Updated:18/09/2023 18:10 19:05 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:24 will be started from Worcester Foregate Street and diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading. It will be delayed at Worcester Foregate Street. This is due to a safety inspection of the track. Last Updated:18/09/2023 19:18 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 19, 2023, 13:54:28 Yesterday's problems with the track between Honeybourne and Moreton-in-Marsh affected Oxford-bound trains:
1P30 13:16 Shrub Hill - Paddington : cancelled throughout 1P04 13:18 Hereford - Paddington : diverted via Stroud 1P34 15:17 Foregate Street - Paddington : started from Shrub Hill 53 late. Cancelled after arriving at Reading 63 late. 1P05 15:18 Hereford - Paddington : 21 late by Moreton, arrived Paddington 11 late. 1P38 16:32 Great Malvern - Paddington : started 25 late, arrived Evesham 21 late and then reversed so as to divert via Stroud. Cancelled after arriving Reading 152 late. 1P39 17:26 Foregate Street - Paddington : cancelled after arriving at Worcestershire Parkway 18 late. 1P40 18:02 Foregate Street - Paddington : started from Shrub Hill 24 late. Diverted via Stroud. 1P42 19:05 Great Malvern - Paddington : started from Foregate Street and diverted via Stroud. 1P44 19:45 Great Malvern - Paddington : started from Shrub Hill 26 late. Diverted via Stroud. 1P46 20:56 Foregate Street - Paddington : cancelled after Shrub Hill and ran empty to Paddington via Stroud. 1P06 22:00 Hereford - Paddington : ran normally. JourneyCheck did not mention rail replacement buses. No trains ran from Evesham towards Oxford from 16:47 to 23:12. A couple of down trains were turned round at Moreton so as to maintain London-bound services at 18:49 and 19:08. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 20, 2023, 10:36:05 Quote Alterations to services between Worcester Shrub Hill and Great Malvern Due to urgent repairs to the railway at Worcester Foregate Street fewer trains are able to run. Disruption is expected until 10:45 20/09. Train services between Worcester Shrub Hill and Great Malvern will be revised. Worcester Foregate Street will not be served. Additional Information We've been advised that due to safety concerns over the structure of a stairwell, platform 1 at Worcester Foregate Street station has had to be closed. Trains to/from Great Malvern or Hereford are still able to run however, but not calling at Worcester Foregate Street. We apologise for the disruption to your journey today. Last Updated:20/09/2023 10:21 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on September 26, 2023, 00:37:15 Quote 05:23 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:26/09/2023 00:29 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on September 27, 2023, 15:38:33 Quote 15:23 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:47 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:27/09/2023 14:56 Quote 18:02 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 20:30 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:27/09/2023 14:56 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 07, 2023, 15:23:08 From JourneyCheck:
Quote Due to a safety inspection of the track between Moreton-In-Marsh and Evesham the line is closed. Train services running through these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 15:15 07/10. A section of track in the Moreton-in-Marsh area requires a safety inspection. Until that has been completed and the all clear has been given we are unable to operate train services over that route in either direction. We are looking to establish a shuttle service of road vehicles between Worcester Shrub Hill and Moreton-in-Marsh with a train shuttle service operating between Moreton-in-Marsh and Oxford. This will however take some time to resource and appropriate updates will be provided as and when possible. Last Updated:07/10/2023 14:48 12:52 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 15:14 will be terminated at Oxford. This is due to a safety inspection of the track. Last Updated:07/10/2023 13:29 13:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 16:27 will be terminated at Moreton-In-Marsh. This is due to a safety inspection of the track. Last Updated:07/10/2023 14:01 14:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:14 will be starting late from London Paddington. This is due to a safety inspection of the track. Last Updated:07/10/2023 14:45 13:05 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 15:22 will be cancelled. This is due to a safety inspection of the track. Last Updated:07/10/2023 12:43 13:20 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22 will be diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading. It will be delayed due to the diversion and is expected to be 1 minute late. This is due to a safety inspection of the track. Last Updated:07/10/2023 13:51 14:53 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 17:23 will be diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading. This is due to a safety inspection of the track. Last Updated:07/10/2023 14:37 An additional train service has been planned to operate as shown 15:54 Moreton-In-Marsh to London Paddington due 17:23. Last Updated:07/10/2023 14:03 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 19, 2023, 08:19:31 A lot of cancellations today. JourneyCheck is reporting
Quote 05:23 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:19/10/2023 02:36 05:53 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 08:38 was terminated at Moreton-In-Marsh. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:19/10/2023 07:35 07:13 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 09:40 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:19/10/2023 05:17 08:56 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 11:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:19/10/2023 07:35 15:23 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:47 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:19/10/2023 07:50 18:02 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 20:30 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:19/10/2023 07:50 20:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 23:12 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:19/10/2023 07:50 There were a number of cancellations yesterday (Wed Oct 18) as well, but for some reason they didn't get listed on JourneyCheck. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 19, 2023, 08:38:05 And there's more:
Quote 08:51 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 11:14 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:19/10/2023 08:17 11:57 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 14:22 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:19/10/2023 08:17 14:53 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:04 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:19/10/2023 08:17 17:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:54 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:19/10/2023 08:17 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on October 19, 2023, 08:39:36 Those are using the same train as the 0523 ex-HFD
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 20, 2023, 07:02:26 And to that gloomy list we have to add the 19:53 Paddington to Hereford, cancelled throughout due to what RTT reported as "late arrival of an inbound service (YI)".
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on October 20, 2023, 10:11:50 Not showing on JourneyCheck but the 08:51 Paddington to Great Malvern appears to have been cancelled. The following 09:52 Paddington to Hereford has just departed Paddington 17 minutes late.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 20, 2023, 16:52:00 Well, here i am on the Hereford - Paddington. I have to report that the ticket office space at Foregate Street is covered in water. Not very deep, but enough for it to be taped off with a sign "buy your tickets at your destination". And West Midlands Trains have stopped running from Birmingham to Hereford.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: bobm on October 22, 2023, 14:47:07 Quote 13:44 London Paddington to Hereford due 17:00 is being delayed between Radley and Oxford. This is due to this train not stopping at a station it was supposed to. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on October 22, 2023, 19:46:07 oops, Radley! Wonder if anyone wanted to board or alight? :o
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on October 22, 2023, 20:00:28 oops, Radley! Wonder if anyone wanted to board or alight? :o Probably. It’s at least the third time it’s happened since Radley calls were added to long distance services on Sundays only. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 23, 2023, 08:17:34 oops, Radley! Wonder if anyone wanted to board or alight? :o Probably. It’s at least the third time it’s happened since Radley calls were added to long distance services on Sundays only. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on October 23, 2023, 15:47:31 Quote Between London Paddington/Oxford/Charlbury and Moreton-In-Marsh/Evesham/Worcester Shrub Hill via Kingham Planned engineering work will take place between London Paddington/Oxford/Charlbury and Moreton-In-Marsh/Evesham/Worcester Shrub Hill via Kingham from 00:01, Monday 23 October 2023 to 05:15, Friday 27 October 2023. Some lines will be blocked. Additional Information All day Monday 23 to Thursday 26 October (inclusive) the line will be closed between Charlbury and Moreton-in-Marsh. Trains will run between London Paddington / Oxford and Charlbury. Trains will run between Moreton-in-Marsh and Worcester / Great Malvern / Hereford. Replacement buses will run between Charlbury, Kingham and Moreton-in-Marsh, with a few buses calling at Shipton. Posted for the record. I haven't been particularly looking, but I did not see any advance information about this Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on October 23, 2023, 15:50:33 That IS the advance notice (assuming you got it off the GWR website?)
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on October 24, 2023, 08:20:02 After filleting the service for this week's engineering works:
Quote 07:33 Charlbury to London Paddington due 08:43 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:24/10/2023 03:20 So no early morning services to Oxford/London for almost two and a half hours! Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on October 24, 2023, 09:50:44 That IS the advance notice (assuming you got it off the GWR website?) I did get it from the GW website, but to be advance information, it should be out and publicised, err, in advance - not on the day, don't you think? Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: grahame on October 24, 2023, 12:56:06 That IS the advance notice (assuming you got it off the GWR website?) I did get it from the GW website, but to be advance information, it should be out and publicised, err, in advance - not on the day, don't you think? Planned engineering works through to the end of the year, with advanced notice of what's coming up in the first three months of next year, can be found at https://www.gwr.com/travel-information/travel-updates/planned-engineering. ... however, people need to know to look. There are various industry briefings, and it gets flagged up in various ways, but such things tend to be easily missed; I can recall a none-rail project where we listed 10 different ways we reached people, and we still got complaints that "I hadn't heard". Just a couple of weeks ago, I noted on my personal Facebook page the last in a series of consultation events coming that evening, and got a slamming response "why are you only just telling us" ... but actually the 3rd or 4th telling but this last one just happened to reach wider. It would be lovely of there was a way of getting the right information to the right people at the right time ... Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on October 24, 2023, 13:04:30 I first heard about it a couple of weeks ago, but I also wasn't really looking for it.
I expect the online journey planners had alterations on them some time before that as it's half term week, so likely to have been planned for a reasonable amount of time? Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Mark A on October 24, 2023, 14:39:12 So no early morning services to Oxford/London for almost two and a half hours! Something about this... the railway's long been into the practice of charging premium and sometimes unfeasably premium prices for one-off peak time travel, as well as providing annual season ticket rates that bring the daily rate down to around the level of (in GWR's case) the cost of a super off peak return. Was it the case that they then put a lot of staff effort into ensuring that the perhaps infrequent long distance trains in the morning peak ran as reliably as possible? The refrain 'More trains than usual' is a bit 21st century, especially when used with respect to the morning peak, and especially on the Hereford to Paddington route with its relatively infrequent trains. This must have a very suppressing effect on the passenger figures for trains at these times. Mark Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on October 24, 2023, 17:32:11 I first heard about it a couple of weeks ago, but I also wasn't really looking for it. I expect the online journey planners had alterations on them some time before that as it's half term week, so likely to have been planned for a reasonable amount of time? It's been listed in the forward plan for Engineering Works that Graham mentioned for over a month - probably longer - and route season ticket holders I understand were emailed a while ago. How else could GWR identify that any particular account holder needed to know about that particular route? We at the CLPG put it out a while ago to our members. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 24, 2023, 18:47:15 I would have thought that GWR had an excellent database on who travels on which line, thanks to Delay Repay.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on October 24, 2023, 21:14:59 Unless they all sign up to these notifications, GDOPR would prevent any contact outside of Delay/Repay refunds
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on October 27, 2023, 20:41:26 A few cancellations today:
1W29 1453 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street - cancelled due to an issue with the train crew (TH). 2E14 1704 Didcot Parkway to Oxford - cancelled between Oxford and Moreton-in-Marsh due to unknown cause (ZW). 2E16 1851 Evesham to Oxford - cancelled due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI). Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on October 27, 2023, 20:45:09 2E14 1704 Didcot Parkway to Oxford - cancelled between Oxford and Moreton-in-Marsh due to unknown cause (ZW). 2E16 1851 Evesham to Oxford - cancelled due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI). The inbound was the service above 2E14....late arrival? Never got past Oxford!! :o Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 28, 2023, 07:56:57 The stock of 1W29 (a 9-car set) ran empty from Paddington to Shrub Hill (missing out the bit round to Foregate Street) in order to pick up service as train 1P39, the 17:30 from Shrub Hill back to Paddington.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on October 28, 2023, 08:01:36 I would have thought that GWR had an excellent database on who travels on which line, thanks to Delay Repay. Unless they all sign up to these notifications, GDOPR would prevent any contact outside of Delay/Repay refunds It cannot be beyond the wit of the IT department to add a cople of GDPR permission tick-boxes for when you register or claim for DelayRepay - one for "tell me about future engineering works that would affect this journey" and another for tell me about any disruptions that would affect this journey today".Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 02, 2023, 14:28:34 JourneyCheck:
Quote 11:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 14:41 will be terminated at Great Malvern. It will no longer call at Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford. This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption. Last Updated:02/11/2023 13:34 15:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be started from Great Malvern. It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury and Colwall. This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption. Last Updated:02/11/2023 13:35 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 02, 2023, 18:05:51 13:50 Paddington - Great Malvern cancelled after Shrub Hill - a change that was announced to the passengers as we came into Shrub Hill, some 19 late.
I was looking to go round to Foregate Street, as I had very heavy luggage and I can rely on there being taxis at Foregate Street. Fortunately I rang up for a taxi to come to Shrub hill and only had to wait in the cold for a few minutes. The return working is shown as Quote 16:32 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:29 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street. This is due to a problem currently under investigation. Last Updated:02/11/2023 15:57 Note that 'updated' time - why the change could not have been communicated to the train manager of the 13:50 isn't obvious (and wasn't obvious to the TM either). Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on November 03, 2023, 08:55:49 Quote 05:23 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. And the following 06:43 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington was a five car short-formation. 5 coaches instead of 18! Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 03, 2023, 13:27:41 08:51 Paddington - Great Malvern reported on RTT as "cancelled due to a problem with the train".
An odd one: Quote 10:53 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 13:01 will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Honeybourne, Pershore and Worcestershire Parkway Hl. This is due to a fault with the signalling system. Last Updated:03/11/2023 11:26 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on November 03, 2023, 21:17:51 Quote 1W05 1953 London Paddington to Hereford This service was cancelled due to a delay not investigated (OU) Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 07, 2023, 08:36:48 Quote 05:23 Hereford to London Paddington due 08:24 will be diverted between Worcester Shrub Hill and Reading. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough and Oxford. It has been delayed at Hereford and is now 54 minutes late. This is due to a broken down train. Last Updated:07/11/2023 06:27 07:01 Worcester Shrub Hill to Didcot Parkway due 08:45 has been delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill and is now 22 minutes late. This is due to this train being late from the depot. Last Updated:07/11/2023 08:14 No mention of 1P16 06:43 Shrub Hill - Paddington, held for 17 minutes at Norton Junction for westbound departmental train 3S31, running 23 late. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 08, 2023, 09:49:59 Quote 06:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:29 will be terminated at Worcester Foregate Street. It will no longer call at Malvern Link and Great Malvern. This is due to congestion. Last Updated:08/11/2023 08:30 09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:22 will be started from Worcester Foregate Street. It will no longer call at Great Malvern and Malvern Link. This is due to congestion. Last Updated:08/11/2023 08:31 1P16 0643 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington departed Shrub Hill 15 late and was 21 late by Charlbury and 26 late into Paddington. In consequence, 1W13 0650 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street was held at Wolvercote. 18 late at Charlbury and into Shrub Hill. It has a scheduled wait at Shrub Hill, so was only 7 late into Foregate Street. The halts train, 2E80 0701 Worcester Shrub Hill to Didcot Parkway, was held at Charlbury and reached Oxford 20 late. And behind that, train 1P18 0713 Great Malvern to London Paddington was also held at Charlbury and reached Oxford 16 late. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on November 08, 2023, 10:46:23 I don't imagine there's any chance of anything being done about the remaining single-line sections, at either end of the Wolvercote Junction to Norton Junction railway, but they really do need fixing. One out-of-course train can still wreak as much havoc as it would have done in the days before the 2011 re-doubling of part of the line
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Richard Fairhurst on November 08, 2023, 12:33:48 The North Cotswold Line Task Force proposals envisage shortening the single line at each end - basically redoubling Wolvercot to Hanborough, and Evesham to Pershore. (I have my doubts that it'll happen.)
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on November 08, 2023, 12:56:53 In terms of helping with regulation of trains, I'd think a short section of double line - wouldn't need to be much more that a train length - at both Wolvercot and Norton Junctions could be very useful, particularly if the junctions were doubled, too. Meaning trains waiting for a path onto the single lines wouldn't have to stand in the way of trains heading towards Banbury from Oxford or towards Abbotswood from Worcester.
I suspect there's no money for this (even though it would have such benefits), any more than there's money to add any substantial distance to to the double-track milage that already exists Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Mark A on November 08, 2023, 14:30:39 it's surprising that that's not been standard practice on single line junctions with double track from the off. Perhaps it was that at the first, it wasn't envisaged that there'd be the density of traffic and the thinking didn't evolve. Though that hardly excuses locations where lines have been singled.
Mark Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: grahame on November 08, 2023, 16:39:58 it's surprising that that's not been standard practice on single line junctions with double track from the off. Perhaps it was that at the first, it wasn't envisaged that there'd be the density of traffic and the thinking didn't evolve. Though that hardly excuses locations where lines have been singled. Mark Thinking about this from the time at which lines were singled - taking Thingley Junction as an example. a) A crossover and single turnout has allowed the main line to be canted and so have its line speed raised b) The line was run with a single line token. If a trains could pass onto a short section of double track clear of the junction, there would need to be a way to get the token to the driver c) With just a handful of trains a week down the single line, go for the cheapest option to install and maintain d) A crossover then a single point to the branch provides for reversal of a train on the main line which a double junction would not Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on November 09, 2023, 09:55:31 b) The line was run with a single line token. If a trains could pass onto a short section of double track clear of the junction, there would need to be a way to get the token to the driver It would need an auxiliary token instrument to be provided in a small hut in a convenient place for the driver to withdraw a token in cooperation with the signallers at each end of the section. In fact, I think there was one at Thingley Jcn in the days of Bradford Junctions 'box working the single line with Swindon Panel Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on November 09, 2023, 10:08:14 Meaning trains waiting for a path onto the single lines wouldn't have to stand in the way of trains heading towards Banbury from Oxford The down relief is used for that purpose north of Oxford, such that trains heading north of Wolvercot use the Down Main to get past. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: grahame on November 09, 2023, 10:28:27 b) The line was run with a single line token. If a trains could pass onto a short section of double track clear of the junction, there would need to be a way to get the token to the driver It would need an auxiliary token instrument to be provided in a small hut in a convenient place for the driver to withdraw a token in cooperation with the signallers at each end of the section. In fact, I think there was one at Thingley Jcn in the days of Bradford Junctions 'box working the single line with Swindon Panel There might have been one there - though I have seen a video of a token being collected on the platform at Chippenham Station (in addition?) Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on November 09, 2023, 11:49:24 I remember visiting Bradford Junctions box and giving the release for a token to be taken at the Swindon end of the single line. What a great 'box to work! And they couldn't get rid of it when they wanted to with the Westbury resignalling in 1985 - Westbury panel couldn't work to Swindon, Swindon couldn't work to Bristol at Bradford Jcn. So until they worked out a way of knitting it all together, the box stayed. An oasis.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on November 09, 2023, 12:18:39 Quote 11:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 14:41 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:09/11/2023 11:15 and, correspondingly: Quote 15:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. GWR train was delayed or cancelled, you can claim Delay Repay compensation. Please keep your ticket and visit GWR.com/DelayRepay Last Updated:09/11/2023 11:15 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: grahame on November 09, 2023, 12:28:21 I remember visiting Bradford Junctions box and giving the release for a token to be taken at the Swindon end of the single line. What a great 'box to work! And they couldn't get rid of it when they wanted to with the Westbury resignalling in 1985 - Westbury panel couldn't work to Swindon, Swindon couldn't work to Bristol at Bradford Jcn. So until they worked out a way of knitting it all together, the box stayed. An oasis. The found a way of doing in in 1990, very sadly by closing the north side of the triangle at Bradford Junction so that it's no longer possible for a train to work from Melksham to Bath without reversing or making an extraordiarily long diversion (work it out ;D ) P.S. We may be off topic here - though we are on the very edge of The Cotswolds ... I think Lacock IS in The Cotswolds and the singleton's lin passes through there ... Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 09, 2023, 16:47:43 Quote 15:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 18:26 has been cancelled. This is due to this train being late from the depot. Last Updated:09/11/2023 15:55 19:05 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:24 will be cancelled. This is due to this train being late from the depot. Last Updated:09/11/2023 15:56 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Richard Fairhurst on November 09, 2023, 20:06:13 Quote 15:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 18:26 has been cancelled. This is due to this train being late from the depot. Last Updated:09/11/2023 15:55 Whole host of people crammed onto the 2-coach Oxfordshire Halts train (I went down to pick up Junior on his way back from school). Bit of a mess. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 10, 2023, 15:58:07 RTT reports that 11:52 Paddington - Hereford was "cancelled between Oxford and Hereford due to an issue with the train crew (TG)".
JourneyCheck reports Quote 15:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be started from Oxford. It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury, Colwall, Great Malvern, Malvern Link, Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:10/11/2023 13:03 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on November 10, 2023, 16:38:03 It's clearly nothing like the dark days of 2018 but the fact that this thread is up to page 22 (last year's only got to three) does suggest that it's not been a good year service-wise on the north Cotswold Line.
Certainly, when I wake up and check the trains I am always prepared for a cancelation, delay or short-formation. And I am using Delay Repay and the GWR Refund Portal quite regularly too. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 11, 2023, 17:36:22 Quote 18:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 21:13 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:11/11/2023 17:03 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 12, 2023, 15:41:10 Quote 13:12 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 15:30 will be started from Oxford. It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough. This is due to engineering works not being finished on time. Last Updated:12/11/2023 10:03 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 12, 2023, 18:24:51 Quote 17:30 Hereford to London Paddington due 20:30 will be started from Worcester Foregate Street. It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury, Colwall, Great Malvern and Malvern Link. This is due to a points failure. Last Updated:12/11/2023 16:25 Outbound journey, 1W03 1343 London Paddington to Hereford, reported on RTT as Quote This service was cancelled between Worcester Foregate Street and Hereford due to an issue with the train crew (TG). Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Mark A on November 12, 2023, 19:40:26 Sunday late afternoon: the last through train to London.
The next service, 20 minutes later, involves a change and an hour's wait at Newport. The one half an hour later involves a half hour wait at Foregate Street. The (cancelled) through train: 2 hours 55 minutes. The others around 3 hours 30 minutes, the Newport connections involving an hour's wait. Mark Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: grahame on November 12, 2023, 20:27:03 Sunday late afternoon: the last through train to London. The next service, 20 minutes later, involves a change and an hour's wait at Newport. The one half an hour later involves a half hour wait at Foregate Street. The (cancelled) through train: 2 hours 55 minutes. The others around 3 hours 30 minutes, the Newport connections involving an hour's wait. Mark Not clever ... but (ironically) not as much delay as the bus that went the wrong way yesterday which due in London at 23:40 but the special train didn't drag in until 01:04 . Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 13, 2023, 11:21:44 Quote 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Honeybourne and Pershore but will call additionally at Slough. RTT reporting this train as 24 late out of Oxford.It is being delayed between Oxford and Moreton-In-Marsh and is now expected to be 25 minutes late. This is due to a fault with the signalling system. Last Updated:13/11/2023 11:15 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on November 13, 2023, 12:07:57 Quote 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Honeybourne and Pershore but will call additionally at Slough. RTT reporting this train as 24 late out of Oxford.It is being delayed between Oxford and Moreton-In-Marsh and is now expected to be 25 minutes late. This is due to a fault with the signalling system. Last Updated:13/11/2023 11:15 Shown as calling at the booked stations on RTT now, 33 late off Honeybourne, and later than that earlier in the journey Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 13, 2023, 13:17:02 ...and now cancelled after Great Malvern, where it arrived 30 late.
And in consequence: Quote 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22 will be started from Great Malvern. It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury and Colwall. This is due to a fault with the signalling system earlier today. Last Updated:13/11/2023 11:46 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 14, 2023, 07:55:18 JourneyCheck is reporting
Quote 16:58 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:14/11/2023 04:55 20:56 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 23:29 will be reinstated. It will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading and London Paddington. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:14/11/2023 04:55 Nothing about the return working of the 16:58, which should form the 19:45 from Great Malvern. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 15, 2023, 02:48:13 On Tuesday November 14:
16:58 Paddington - Great Malvern WASN'T cancelled. OK, it was a 5-car, which must have beeen cosy. 20:56 Foregate Street - Paddington ran normally. Also a 5-car, so the 17:57 from Paddington must have been cosy. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on November 15, 2023, 06:19:19 16:58 Paddington - Great Malvern WASN'T cancelled. OK, it was a 5-car, which must have beeen cosy. It’s booked for a 5-car, isn’t it? Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 15, 2023, 11:49:46 Quote 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 is being delayed between Reading and Oxford and is now expected to be 25 minutes late. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:15/11/2023 11:00 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22 will be starting late from Hereford. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:15/11/2023 11:05 09:52 held at Wolvercote Junction and now 38 late at Charlbury. A scheduled turn-round time at Hereford of 32 minutes. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on November 15, 2023, 12:29:49 Quote 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 is being delayed between Reading and Oxford and is now expected to be 25 minutes late. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:15/11/2023 11:00 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22 will be starting late from Hereford. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:15/11/2023 11:05 09:52 held at Wolvercote Junction and now 38 late at Charlbury. A scheduled turn-round time at Hereford of 32 minutes. Left Worcester Shrub Hill only 23 minutes late Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 15, 2023, 15:24:05 RTT is reporting it arriving at Great Malvern 57 late, and being cancelled after that.
JourneyCheck reports Quote 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22 will be started from Great Malvern. It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury and Colwall. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:15/11/2023 11:52 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 16, 2023, 00:06:35 And during the evening of Wednesday November 15:
The 'halts' train (17:04 Didcot - Moreton) was cancelled from Oxford (RTT: "due to a problem with the traction equipment (MD)"). The 16:58 Paddington - Great Malvern lost time as a result of doing all the extra stops, arrived at Shrub Hill 33 late and was cancelled thereafter. The 17:34 London Paddington to Hereford missed its path through the single line at Evesham. It left there 30 late and reached Hereford 26 late. The 19:05 Great Malvern to London Paddington was held at Charlbury and arrived at Oxford 18 late. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 16, 2023, 10:28:35 An odd pair today:
Quote 16:58 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:16/11/2023 06:16 19:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:24 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading and London Paddington. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:16/11/2023 06:16 The second of those feels wrong - surely it should be started from Shrub Hill? Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 16, 2023, 15:59:49 An odd pair today: Quote 16:58 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:16/11/2023 06:16 19:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:24 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading and London Paddington. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:16/11/2023 06:16 The second of those feels wrong - surely it should be started from Shrub Hill? Both have now disappeared from JourneyCheck. Meanwhile... Quote 21:53 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:02 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:16/11/2023 14:26 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Mark A on November 16, 2023, 18:03:30 Meanwhile... Quote 21:53 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:02 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:16/11/2023 14:26 Awkward as that's the last train of the day. There *is* a connection that leave two minutes earllier, but that's change Newport and Hereford, with a wait of over 90 minutes at Newport and over three hours at Hereford, giving an arrival next day at Worcester at after 6am. *Blinks* Mark Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 16, 2023, 18:17:52 There is a 22:51 from Paddington, but it only goes to Worcestershire Parkway, so you'd need to have a taxi to take you to our destination.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Mark A on November 16, 2023, 20:25:37 Worcestershire Parkway... is that a rather odd final call for it?
(Edit: removed bad info.) Off topic, but I'm now moved, for reasons of history and anecdote, to look out the last arrival into Shrub Hill on a Sunday... Mark Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on November 16, 2023, 21:59:17 Worcestershire Parkway... is that a rather odd final call for it? Shrub Hill is staffed by WMR and is closed and locked up before that train would arrive, so it terminates at Parkway and runs empty (and straight into) the sidings at Worcester. So, not ideal…but there is a reason for it. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 17, 2023, 04:38:31 And today is Retro Friday:
Quote 07:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:12. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. Last Updated:17/11/2023 03:50 10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:24. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. Last Updated:17/11/2023 03:50 13:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 16:15. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. Last Updated:17/11/2023 03:50 16:32 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:29 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading and London Paddington. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. Last Updated:17/11/2023 03:51 Shown on RTT as being operated by 165 114. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Mark A on November 17, 2023, 08:23:21 Worcestershire Parkway... is that a rather odd final call for it? Shrub Hill is staffed by WMR and is closed and locked up before that train would arrive, so it terminates at Parkway and runs empty (and straight into) the sidings at Worcester. So, not ideal…but there is a reason for it. Ah. Now wondering what that service did before Parkway opened in 2020, if anyone can recall. Mark Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: TaplowGreen on November 17, 2023, 08:28:50 And today is Retro Friday: Quote 07:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:12. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. Last Updated:17/11/2023 03:50 10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:24. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. Last Updated:17/11/2023 03:50 13:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 16:15. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. Last Updated:17/11/2023 03:50 16:32 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:29 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading and London Paddington. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. Last Updated:17/11/2023 03:51 Shown on RTT as being operated by 165 114. Two and a half hours on a Turbo, great! :( Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 17, 2023, 08:48:45 Worcestershire Parkway... is that a rather odd final call for it? Shrub Hill is staffed by WMR and is closed and locked up before that train would arrive, so it terminates at Parkway and runs empty (and straight into) the sidings at Worcester. So, not ideal…but there is a reason for it. Ah. Now wondering what that service did before Parkway opened in 2020, if anyone can recall. Mark Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: grahame on November 17, 2023, 09:15:05 Two and a half hours on a Turbo, great! :( Cardiff .... Portsmouth .... Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: TaplowGreen on November 17, 2023, 09:20:48 Two and a half hours on a Turbo, great! :( Cardiff .... Portsmouth .... An equally unattractive prospect. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on November 17, 2023, 09:47:28 And today is Retro Friday: Quote 07:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:12. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. Last Updated:17/11/2023 03:50 10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:24. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. Last Updated:17/11/2023 03:50 13:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 16:15. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. Last Updated:17/11/2023 03:50 16:32 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:29 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading and London Paddington. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. Last Updated:17/11/2023 03:51 Shown on RTT as being operated by 165 114. 5 late at Reading, right time Evesham Who needs 125mph IETs anyway? The rolling stock substitution has disappeared from GW journeycheck, btw Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on November 17, 2023, 11:29:16 Quote 10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:24 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading and London Paddington. This is due to train crew being delayed. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. Toilet facilities are not available. Last Updated:17/11/2023 11:17 As reported above, the 1632 Great Malvern to Paddington isn't getting very far today - to be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. No mention on Journeycheck at present about the 1350 from Paddington which provides the stock for it Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on November 17, 2023, 12:34:37 Quote 10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:24 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading and London Paddington. This is due to train crew being delayed. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. Toilet facilities are not available. Last Updated:17/11/2023 11:17 As reported above, the 1632 Great Malvern to Paddington isn't getting very far today - to be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. No mention on Journeycheck at present about the 1350 from Paddington which provides the stock for it There is now... Quote 13:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 16:15 will be cancelled. This is due to train crew being delayed. Last Updated:17/11/2023 11:58 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on November 17, 2023, 14:08:27 Quote 15:23 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:47 Facilities on the 15:23 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:47. This is due to a late running train being in front of this one. This train will now be formed of the usual number of coaches. ??? Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on November 17, 2023, 14:59:58 There is now... Quote 13:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 16:15 will be cancelled. This is due to train crew being delayed. Last Updated:17/11/2023 11:58 The GWR app is reporting that the following 14:53 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street has no unoccupied seats! Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on November 17, 2023, 15:14:22 I suppose cancelling a few services each day and ramming passengers onto the remaining trains is one way of making the railway less costly to run
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Richard Fairhurst on November 17, 2023, 17:37:23 The GWR app is reporting that the following 14:53 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street has no unoccupied seats! I was on it from Oxford. Standing room only to Hanborough and very busy on to Charlbury. Haven't checked but it looks like maybe the Cotswold Line was down one diagram - there were cancellations either side too. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ray951 on November 17, 2023, 19:37:43 Given the recent level of reliability of the Worcester line services its good that GWR haven't decided, from the December timetable change, to halve the number of services on the Didcot to Oxford shuttle and replace them by stopping the Worcester services at Didcot parkway instead.
Oh wait...... Given that when fares go up the standard line 'about paying for investments in services' is trotted out maybe we will see a reduction in fares to match the reduction in services. ;) Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on November 17, 2023, 19:58:10 If reliability gets too bad, hopefully they'll move that Didcot stop to the other half-hour Oxford service, which frankly is where it should go anyway (yes, I have had the explanation as to why its in the Worcester service, but I don't agree with it)
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 17, 2023, 20:48:27 5 late at Reading, right time Evesham Who needs 125mph IETs anyway? The rolling stock substitution has disappeared from GW journeycheck, btw The idea of Retro Friday didn't actually work: Quote 07:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:12. - worked OK.Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. Quote 10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:24. RTT reports "This service was cancelled between Worcester Shrub Hill and London Paddington due to a planning error (TI)."Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. Last Updated:17/11/2023 03:50 Quote 13:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 16:15. RTT reports "This service was cancelled due to a decision by the train operating company (TR)."Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. Last Updated:17/11/2023 03:50 Quote 16:32 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:29 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. RTT reports "This service was cancelled due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI)."It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading and London Paddington. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 5. Last Updated:17/11/2023 03:51 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ray951 on November 18, 2023, 19:54:53 If reliability gets too bad, hopefully they'll move that Didcot stop to the other half-hour Oxford service, which frankly is where it should go anyway (yes, I have had the explanation as to why its in the Worcester service, but I don't agree with it) Or just reinstate the Didcot to Oxford shuttle service to run every half an hour. Of course if they hadn't cancelled the half-complete (maybe more) Didcot-Oxford electrification then none of this would have been happening. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on November 18, 2023, 19:56:52 No way to reinstate as the DfT has thrown the toys out & won't pay for the turbo used to run it. It's going elsewhere.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 21, 2023, 08:28:11 From JourneyCheck:
Quote 06:43 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 08:43 has been delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill and is now 24 minutes late. This train (and the 07:25 Shrub Hill - Paddington via Stroud, also delayed) start from Shrub Hill sidings, so the fault seems to have only affected these sidings.This is due to a fault with the signalling system. Last Updated:21/11/2023 07:59 The train was held at Charlbury for the single line (crossing the 06:50 Paddington - Great Malvern, on time), and is now reported as 33 late at Oxford. Meanwhile, the 'halts' train, the 07:01 Shrub Hill - Didcot, is now at Charlbury, 17 late. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 21, 2023, 11:32:29 And an odd pair of reasons for delays:
Quote 08:51 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 11:14 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. The 08:51 was on time to Shrub Hill.It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:21/11/2023 10:44 11:57 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 14:22 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:21/11/2023 10:44 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on November 21, 2023, 12:18:00 Maybe a travelling Hitachi fitter needed stationary time to fix a problem?
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on November 21, 2023, 12:50:29 It was a 9 vice 5 IET and so can’t fit within the turnback at Malvern Wells. So it would have to shunt onto the single line…but test train 1Q15 was going to be occupying that section.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on November 21, 2023, 13:20:49 Quote This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Is the base reason for substituting 9car vice 5car, not why it terminated short. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 21, 2023, 13:22:46 It was a 9 vice 5 IET and so can’t fit within the turnback at Malvern Wells. So it would have to shunt onto the single line…but test train 1Q15 was going to be occupying that section. Suddenly that makes much more sense - thank you!Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 28, 2023, 03:22:46 Last night (Monday November 27), the 20:52 Paddington - Great Malvern was cancelled after Oxford with RTT reporting this as "due to disorder (VA)". That's the last train this week - subsequent ones are buses.
For today, JourneyCheck is reporting: Quote 28/11/23 06:43 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 08:43 will be started from Oxford. This is due to the emergency services dealing with an incident near the railway yesterday. Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9. Last Updated:27/11/2023 22:43 17:04 Didcot Parkway to Moreton-In-Marsh due 18:10 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:28/11/2023 01:10 18:51 Evesham to Oxford due 19:50 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:28/11/2023 01:14 19:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:24 will be started from Oxford. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:28/11/2023 02:27 21:53 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:02 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:28/11/2023 02:31 This week, as a result of overnight engineering works, the 21:53 is diverting via Stroud (running non-stop from Didcot to Shrub Hill), whie the 22:51 to Worcestershire Parkway is terminating at Oxford. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 29, 2023, 01:50:22 'Halts' train (17:04 Didcot - Moreton and return) and 21:43 Paddington - Shrub Hill both ran normally yesterday.
Not sure when the 'cancelled' warnings were replaced by 'reinstated' messages on JourneyCheck. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on November 29, 2023, 11:41:53 Quote Alterations to services between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill Due to a fault with the signalling system between Oxford and Worcester Shrub Hill all lines are blocked. Train services running through these stations may be suspended. Disruption is expected until 14:00 29/11. Last Updated:29/11/2023 11:31 It's not immediately clear how disruptive this is going to be but JourneyCheck is flagging a number of services as "will be delayed at Oxford". Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on November 29, 2023, 11:51:24 Thanks for the heads up on this one - it was clear when I checked a tad earlier!
Meeting someone off a now cancelled train & trying to postpone. Hope tomorrow is a clear day! Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Richard Fairhurst on November 29, 2023, 19:01:05 I think today is best described as "Shall we forget that happened?".
The evening halts train left Didcot about 20 minutes late due to awaiting a train manager on an incoming service. That put it right in front of the following IET (the 16.58 from Paddington). The IET was allowed to overtake before Oxford, and went first out of Oxford at 1757 (14 late) - I was on that one. The halts train left Oxford at 1810. It then appears to have waited between Oxford and Wolvercot to allow the up IET to come through, and as I write is currently running 74 minutes late according to RTT. Running the halts train, rather than putting extra stops on the IET, strikes me as an unusual choice but there you go. To add to the fun, there appears to have been a signalling fault between Wolvercot and Charlbury in the early evening - at least one train was given permission to pass a signal on red, apparently. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on November 29, 2023, 19:57:17 That problem is/was the same problem reported up thread - a pilot was on board each service needing to pass at red causing many delays & cancellations from at least midday through to at least 1700. We knew the halts train was going to be delayed when I left Oxford Information point at 1600.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 30, 2023, 06:34:44 I think today is best described as "Shall we forget that happened?". And today is not getting off to a good start. The stock for the 'halts' train (05:10 Oxford - Shrub Hill) gave up at Moreton "due to a problem with the train (M8)" according to RTT. And Quote 07:01 Worcester Shrub Hill to Didcot Parkway due 08:45 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:30/11/2023 05:49 07:13 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 09:40 will call additionally at Shipton, Ascott-Under-Wychwood, Finstock and Combe. This is due to the train making extra stops because a train was cancelled. Last Updated:30/11/2023 06:10 17:34 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:26 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link, Great Malvern, Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:30/11/2023 03:36 20:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 23:14 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:30/11/2023 03:34 22:00 Hereford to Worcester Shrub Hill due 22:51 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:30/11/2023 03:36 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on November 30, 2023, 10:33:49 Quote 16:32 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:29 will be reinstated. It will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury, Hanborough, Oxford, Reading and London Paddington. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Some reinstatement, this Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on November 30, 2023, 10:54:18 Quote 08:51 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 11:14 will be terminated at Worcester Foregate Street. It will no longer call at Malvern Link and Great Malvern. It is being delayed between London Paddington and Reading. This is due to a points failure. Last Updated:30/11/2023 09:29 09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:22 will be started from Worcester Foregate Street. It will no longer call at Great Malvern and Malvern Link. This is due to a broken rail. Last Updated:30/11/2023 08:20 11:57 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 14:22 will be started from Worcester Foregate Street. It will no longer call at Great Malvern and Malvern Link. This is due to a points failure. Last Updated:30/11/2023 09:30 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on November 30, 2023, 12:15:21 And there's more!
Quote 10:53 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 13:01 will be terminated at Oxford. It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcestershire Parkway Hl and Worcester Shrub Hill. It has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 43 minutes late. This is due to a points failure. 13:16 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 15:22 will be started from Oxford. It will no longer call at Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough. This is due to a points failure. Last Updated:30/11/2023 12:02 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on November 30, 2023, 14:55:14 And more still....
Quote 13:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 16:15 will be terminated at Oxford. It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern. This is due to a shortage of train crew. 16:32 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:29 will be started from Oxford. It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link, Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:30/11/2023 14:05 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on December 01, 2023, 09:50:33 Quote 07:13 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 09:40 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:01/12/2023 05:49 RTT has the reason for the cancellation as "late arrival of the incoming service" Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on December 01, 2023, 14:29:13 Quote 14:53 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:04 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. 15:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 18:26 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. 17:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:54 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. 19:05 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. 19:33 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 22:08 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on December 01, 2023, 15:21:48 Quote 14:53 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:04 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. 15:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 18:26 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. 17:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:54 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. 19:05 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. 19:33 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 22:08 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Service? What service? I take it the drivers' overtime ban is the proximate cause. But isn't there a cause-behind-the-cause of not sufficient drivers being employed to cover the service with normal working hours? Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Richard Fairhurst on December 01, 2023, 16:21:41 1350 and 1523 from Paddington both running about 20 late.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on December 01, 2023, 16:24:49 Quote 14:53 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:04 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. 15:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 18:26 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Unsurprisingly, the GWR app is showing the late running 15:23 Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street as having no unoccupied seats. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on December 01, 2023, 18:27:53 Quote 17:34 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:26 will be terminated at Oxford. It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Evesham, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link, Great Malvern, Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford. This is due to a shortage of train crew. 19:53 London Paddington to Hereford due 22:58 will be terminated at Oxford. It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link, Great Malvern, Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Richard Fairhurst on December 03, 2023, 23:01:51 JourneyCheck showing that the two main commuter trains tomorrow are cancelled:
https://tinyurl.com/atdnkxnz Seriously unimpressed. Mrs F is currently working out what time she has to drive from Charlbury to get to work (in Oxford) on time. No trains between 0611 and 0805 is not a great situation. The 0805 is going to be entertaining carnage if two IETs’ worth of people are trying to fit into an (already fairly busy) 2-carriage Turbo! Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 04, 2023, 10:30:52 And now some more:
Quote 07:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:12 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:04/12/2023 07:29 10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:04/12/2023 07:29 19:33 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 22:08 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:03/12/2023 22:11 22:51 London Paddington to Worcestershire Parkway Hl due 01:06 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:03/12/2023 22:35 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 04, 2023, 22:51:53 Quote 20:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 23:12 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:03/12/2023 22:24 20:56 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 23:29 will be cancelled. This is due to a broken down train. Last Updated:04/12/2023 18:33 22:00 Hereford to London Paddington due 01:16 will be reinstated. It will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury, Colwall, Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:04/12/2023 18:30 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 04, 2023, 23:59:42 And, from RTT
Quote 1W34 1757 London Paddington to Reading This service is partially cancelled This service was cancelled between Reading and Worcester Foregate Street due to a problem with the traction equipment (MD). Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 05, 2023, 01:50:01 And, looking in more detail at RTT (at https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:P75690/2023-12-04/detailed#allox_id=0 (https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:P75690/2023-12-04/detailed#allox_id=0)) the 17:34 from Paddington to Hereford set off from Paddington with unit 802106 but at Reading this was swapped for 800305. This left Reading 34 late. It was 36 late at Charlbury but lost time after that, arriving at Shrub Hill 62 late, where it gave up.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on December 05, 2023, 09:00:55 Quote 06:43 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 08:43 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:05/12/2023 05:17 And the preceding 05:23 Hereford to Paddington being a five coach short-formation. I'm supposed to be catching the 06:43 tomorrow. Hopefully, third time lucky this week... Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 05, 2023, 12:33:07 And this evening:
Quote 20:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 23:12 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:05/12/2023 05:38 22:51 London Paddington to Worcestershire Parkway Hl due 01:06 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:05/12/2023 00:42 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Richard Fairhurst on December 06, 2023, 06:21:44 Quote 06:43 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 08:43 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:05/12/2023 05:17 And the preceding 05:23 Hereford to Paddington being a five coach short-formation. I'm supposed to be catching the 06:43 tomorrow. Hopefully, third time lucky this week... Unfortunately not. That’s three days in a row it’s been cancelled, and tomorrow is a strike day. Passengers were apparently left on the platform at Hanborough on the 0523 yesterday and there was a tannoy announcement regretting the “unsafe” conditions. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 06, 2023, 06:44:53 Sorry Richard:
Quote 06:43 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 08:43 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:06/12/2023 05:16 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:06/12/2023 03:35 11:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 14:41 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:06/12/2023 00:31 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:06/12/2023 00:30 15:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:06/12/2023 00:32 17:57 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 20:07 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:06/12/2023 00:35 19:53 London Paddington to Hereford due 22:58 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:06/12/2023 00:39 20:56 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 23:29 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:06/12/2023 00:35 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Richard Fairhurst on December 06, 2023, 06:56:27 And meanwhile the 0523 seems to have been sitting in Foregate Street platform 1 for 50 minutes and counting, if the live departure boards are to be believed.
GWR on Twitter say the signalling system is up the spout (not exact quote). Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on December 06, 2023, 07:32:20 And meanwhile the 0523 seems to have been sitting in Foregate Street platform 1 for 50 minutes and counting, if the live departure boards are to be believed. GWR on Twitter say the signalling system is up the spout (not exact quote). Realtime Trains suggesting it's just got to Worcestershire Parkway 74 minutes late. Luckily, the halts train seems to be on time so will be able to pick everyone up... Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 06, 2023, 11:49:36 Adding to the earlier list:
1P02 05:23 Hereford - Paddington : left Shrub Hill 74 late as described above, 67 late into Paddington. 1P18 07:13 Great Malvern - Paddington : RTT reports "This service was cancelled due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI)" Inbound service is 3G18 04:40 Stoke Gifford - Great Malvern : "This service was cancelled due to a delay not investigated (OU)." 1P24 09:54 Great Malvern - Paddington : "cancelled between Great Malvern and Oxford due to unknown cause (ZW)". 1W13 06:50 Paddington - Great Malvern : cancelled after Oxford "due to unknown cause (ZW)" Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on December 06, 2023, 17:00:02 Quote 14:53 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:04 will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Honeybourne and Pershore. It has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 22 minutes late. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:06/12/2023 15:45 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 08, 2023, 10:20:42 Today - Friday 8 December - RTT seems to have lost quite a bit of data.
From RTT: 1P11 0514 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington "This service was cancelled due to a decision by the train operating company (TR)." 1W13 0650 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill "This service was cancelled between Worcester Shrub Hill and Great Malvern due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI)." [42 late into Shrub Hill] 1W15 0750 London Paddington to Great Malvern left Paddington 33 late. Currently 42 late at Honeybourne. From JourneyCheck: Quote 08:56 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 11:24 will be cancelled. RTT reports the 08:51 as having left 30 late. Currently 24 late at Hanborough.This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires. Last Updated:08/12/2023 04:11 09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:22 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires. Last Updated:08/12/2023 08:11 08:51 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 11:14 is being delayed at London Paddington. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:08/12/2023 09:13 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: GBM on December 08, 2023, 11:24:03 Today - Friday 8 December - RTT seems to have lost quite a bit of data. RTT had a major hiccup earlier this morning.Seems to be returning to normal service now. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 08, 2023, 12:28:30 Quote 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 will be terminated at Ledbury. It will no longer call at Hereford. It is being delayed at London Paddington. This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires earlier today. Last Updated:08/12/2023 11:59 10:53 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 13:01 is being delayed between London Paddington and Reading and is now expected to be 21 minutes late. This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires earlier today. Last Updated:08/12/2023 11:23 10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:24 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street. This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires earlier today. Last Updated:08/12/2023 10:09 11:57 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 14:22 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street. This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires. Last Updated:08/12/2023 10:59 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:22 will be started from Ledbury. It will no longer call at Hereford. This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires earlier today. Last Updated:08/12/2023 11:59 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 08, 2023, 16:55:45 RTT:
Quote 1W02 1152 London Paddington to Reading This service was cancelled between Reading and Hereford due to unknown cause (ZW). JourneyCheck: Quote 15:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be started from Oxford. This is due to industrial action. Last Updated:08/12/2023 13:17 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on December 08, 2023, 17:04:28 1W02 turned into the following service at Reading, more or less on time, to Worcester Foregate Street.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 09, 2023, 11:53:15 The falling-down of the wires continues to cause problems. JourneyCheck has
Quote Cancellations to services between Worcester Foregate Street and Oxford Due to damage to the overhead electric wires earlier today between Worcester Foregate Street and Oxford fewer trains are able to run on all lines. Train services running through these stations may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 12:00 09/12. Customer Advice - Please be advised that following this weeks overhead line equipment disruption between Reading and London Paddington we've trains sets displaced across our network. As a consequence, we have three consecutive Worcester to London Paddington services cancelled. - Customers are advised that the 08:28 Worcester Foregate Street has now departed Worcester Shrub Hill 88 minutes late (having started at Shrub Hill) and will be the next available London-bound service. - Customers may also use their GWR rail ticket(s) on West Midlands Railway to Birmingham New Street and on Avanti West Coast from Birmingham New Street to London Euston as a viable alternative. We have also requested 2 coaches to operate a Worcester Foregate Street to Oxford service calling at all Worcester stations, Evesham, Moreton-in-Marsh, Kingham, Hanborough and Oxford. These are to be confirmed. - Customers travelling to/from stations not listed above, such as Pershore, Honeybourne, Shipton and Charlbury, you're advised to trigger one of the available help-points located on platform level if you require further assistance planning your journey. - We apologise for any inconvenience caused to your journey with us today. Last Updated:09/12/2023 10:51 Meanwhile, RTT reports: 1P66 08:28 Foregate Street - Paddington : started from Shrub Hill 89 late. JourneyCheck has "This is due to train crew being delayed by service disruption". 1P17 08:50 Great Malvern - Paddington : Problems with reversing at Malvern. Departed 57 late and ran to Shrub Hill (+84). Cancelled thereafter "due to severe flooding (X2)". 1P19 09:58 Great Malvern - Paddington : "cancelled due to severe flooding (X2)". JourneyCheck has "This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires earlier today". 1P21 10:50 Great Malvern - Paddington : "cancelled due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI)". Inbound service cancelled throughout. JourneyCheck has "This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires earlier today". 1W13 06:52 Paddington - Great Malvern : "cancelled due to an issue with the train crew (TG)". 1W15 07:52 Paddington - Great Malvern : "cancelled due to the train operator's request (TB)". And Journey Check reports: Quote 11:50 London Paddington to Hereford due 14:43 will be cancelled. This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway. Last Updated:09/12/2023 10:58 15:13 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:22 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to heavy rain flooding the railway. Last Updated:09/12/2023 10:58 15:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 18:29 will be terminated at Reading. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:09/12/2023 04:29 18:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 21:13 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. This is due to industrial action. Last Updated:09/12/2023 09:47 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 10, 2023, 12:40:35 Sunday's shambles is caused by the OHLE falling down between Reading and Paddington.
Again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eXFzqWiCSI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eXFzqWiCSI) may be relevant. RTT reports: 1P30 0815 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington : terminated at Reading (?) 1P37 0858 Great Malvern to London Paddington : terminated at Reading (?) 1P41 0958 Great Malvern to London Paddington : same JourneyCheck reports: Quote 09:58 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:28 will be delayed at Reading. This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires. Last Updated:10/12/2023 10:22 16:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:28 will be terminated at Reading. It will no longer call at London Paddington. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:10/12/2023 02:20 18:57 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:29 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:10/12/2023 00:58 09:48 London Paddington to Hereford due 13:01 has been cancelled. This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires. Last Updated:10/12/2023 10:30 10:48 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 13:14 has been cancelled. This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires. Last Updated:10/12/2023 11:13 11:48 London Paddington to Hereford due 15:04 will be starting late from London Paddington. This is due to damage to the overhead electric wires. Last Updated:10/12/2023 10:09 15:48 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 18:15 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:10/12/2023 00:58 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: JayMac on December 10, 2023, 12:42:02 Small correction. The OLE didn't fall down. It merely tripped out. Early reports of 'damage' were incorrect.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 11, 2023, 08:54:30 JourneyCheck:
Quote 05:53 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 08:38 was terminated at Moreton-In-Marsh. It will no longer call at Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern. It has been delayed at Didcot Parkway and is now 16 minutes late. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:11/12/2023 07:52 08:56 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 11:24 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:11/12/2023 08:21 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 14, 2023, 09:07:51 JourneyCheck reports:
Quote Due to a fault with barriers at a level crossing between Worcester Foregate Street and Oxford trains have to run at reduced speed on all lines. The level crossing seems to be between Evesham and Honeybourne. RTT is reporting that train 1P02, 05:23 Hereford - Paddington, left Evesham on time but was 12 late at Honeybourne. It continued to lose time thereafter - +22 at Reading and +36 at Paddington.Train services running through these stations may be delayed by up to 15 minutes. Disruption is expected until 12:00 14/12. Last Updated:14/12/2023 08:44 But ... the problem does seem to have cleared by the time of the halts train. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on December 15, 2023, 09:45:46 Quote 06:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:29 has been cancelled. This is due to a fault with the signalling system. Last Updated:15/12/2023 07:44 RTT has the cancellation being as "due to an issue with the traincrew" No mention about the return working being caped Quote 08:15 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 10:23 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:15/12/2023 02:00 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 15, 2023, 11:00:52 Quote 06:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 09:29 has been cancelled. This is due to a fault with the signalling system. Last Updated:15/12/2023 07:44 RTT has the cancellation being as "due to an issue with the traincrew" No mention about the return working being caped Quote 09:54 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 12:23 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street. This is due to a fault with the signalling system. Last Updated:15/12/2023 07:44 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 15, 2023, 17:08:56 JourneyCheck:
Quote 15:17 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:29 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:15/12/2023 14:59 18:51 Evesham to Oxford due 19:50 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:15/12/2023 17:05 22:00 Hereford to London Paddington due 01:20 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:15/12/2023 02:00 15:23 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:47 will be reinstated. It will be started from Oxford. It will no longer call at London Paddington, Reading and Didcot Parkway. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:15/12/2023 13:05 17:04 Didcot Parkway to Moreton-In-Marsh due 18:10 has been cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:15/12/2023 17:05 17:34 London Paddington to Hereford due 20:26 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:15/12/2023 02:00 18:00 - Edited to add halts train to JourneyCheck list. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: charles_uk on December 18, 2023, 09:57:47 This morning's 06:43 Worcester Shrub Hill to Paddington service was "cancelled due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI)". The following London bound service, the 07:13 Great Malvern to Paddington train was "cancelled between Great Malvern and Worcester Foregate Street due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI)" and was 34 minutes late by the time it arrived at Oxford. Effectively a delay of almost an an hour and a half for those due to travel on the earlier service.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on December 18, 2023, 16:04:05 Quote 17:04 Didcot Parkway to Moreton-In-Marsh due 18:10 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:18/12/2023 15:45 Quote 18:51 Evesham to Oxford due 19:50 will be cancelled. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:18/12/2023 15:45 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Witham Bobby on December 19, 2023, 09:50:27 Quote 07:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 10:12 has been delayed at Oxford and is now 17 minutes late. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:19/12/2023 09:02 Quote 08:15 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 10:23 will be delayed at Charlbury and is expected to be 7 minutes late. This is due to a fault on this train. Last Updated:19/12/2023 09:02 Quote 15:23 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:47 will be terminated at Oxford. It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Worcester Shrub Hill and Worcester Foregate Street. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:19/12/2023 08:56 At present, no mention of 1P40, the 1802 return to Paddington from Foregate Street Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 19, 2023, 11:58:09 JourneyCheck now reporting:
Quote 15:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 18:26 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:19/12/2023 11:29 19:05 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:24 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:19/12/2023 11:29 The halts train, 17:23 departure from Oxford, will be a bit busy tonight. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: jdw.wor on December 19, 2023, 13:38:24 I might be sticking my neck out here but I cringe every time I read xxxx WILL be cancelled. If the decision is made not run a train it IS cancelled. If there is an overwhelming desire by those who update information to us the word WILL could they not say the train WILL not run.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 19, 2023, 14:34:12 JourneyCheck is no longer reporting that the 15:23 from Paddington to Foregate Street will be terminated at Oxford.
It is not reporting that this "has been reinstated", which is the usual format. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on December 19, 2023, 16:15:08 GWR have a 'nasty' habit of reinstating trains previously notified as cancelled - presumably as they might find crew/stock/etc become available.
So "will" is quite possible. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 19, 2023, 18:07:16 JourneyCheck now reporting: Quote 15:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 18:26 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:19/12/2023 11:29 They've changed their explanation. RTT is reporting Quote 1W31 1552 London Paddington to Great Malvern This service was cancelled due to late arrival of an inbound service (YI). Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: grahame on December 19, 2023, 19:04:13 GWR have a 'nasty' habit of reinstating trains previously notified as cancelled - presumably as they might find crew/stock/etc become available. So "will" is quite possible. It is an extremely difficult call for them within the limits of being able tp say a train is running or it isn't - whatever wording they use. If GWR are 95% they can run a train, I (presume) they'll say nothing about it being cancelled. If they know that a train won't run barring a 5% miracle, they all say it is cancelled. But what should they say at a 50% chance - if they simply don't know? Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: jdw.wor on December 19, 2023, 22:23:52 Really Guys
Whether GWR cannot decide if they are to run a train or not is not the issue here. Once they have decided to go public and the decision has been made the train is cancelled. I am finding it difficult to understand an argument which supports the use of "will be cancelled" in case they might run it. If circumstances do change and a previously cancelled train can run the standard reinstatement message can be made. Please do not create another situation where railway communications are less than 100% clear Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 20, 2023, 16:21:08 JourneyCheck:
Quote 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:25 has been cancelled. This is due to a safety inspection of the track. Last Updated:20/12/2023 14:50 15:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury, Colwall, Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street. This is due to a safety inspection of the track. Last Updated:20/12/2023 13:53 16:58 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:26 will be started from Oxford. It will no longer call at London Paddington. This is due to a safety inspection of the track. Last Updated:20/12/2023 14:50 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 21, 2023, 08:19:36 JourneyCheck:
Quote 08:56 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 11:24 will be started from Oxford. It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link, Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:21/12/2023 07:10 11:57 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 14:23 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:21/12/2023 07:54 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:25 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:21/12/2023 07:30 05:53 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 08:38 was terminated at Oxford. It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:21/12/2023 07:10 08:51 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 11:14 will be cancelled. This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated:21/12/2023 07:54 12:51 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 15:00 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:21/12/2023 07:30 No mention of the 09:52 from Paddington to Hereford. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 21, 2023, 11:07:09 Add to that list:
Quote 15:17 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:29 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:21/12/2023 09:40 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 21, 2023, 13:01:01 It's not turning out to be a good day:
Quote 13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:25 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury, Colwall, Great Malvern, Malvern Link and Worcester Foregate Street. This is due to a tree blocking the railway. Last Updated:21/12/2023 12:03 09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:46 was terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill. It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link, Great Malvern, Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford. This is due to a tree blocking the railway. Last Updated:21/12/2023 12:03 12:51 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 15:00 will be reinstated. This is due to train crew being delayed. Last Updated:21/12/2023 11:47 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 21, 2023, 14:28:54 Keep up:
Quote 15:23 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:47 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:21/12/2023 13:22 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 21, 2023, 16:38:44 And more:
Quote 14:53 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street due 17:04 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:21/12/2023 14:38 17:26 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 19:52 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:21/12/2023 14:38 Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: IndustryInsider on December 21, 2023, 16:50:43 Quote from: Worcester_Passenger Keep up: Quote 15:17 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:29 will be cancelled. This is due to a shortage of train crew. Last Updated:21/12/2023 09:40 Well JourneyCheck couldn’t. It was reinstated, but still showing as cancelled for a l-o-n-g time after! Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on December 27, 2023, 12:42:26 JourneyCheck:
Quote 10:19 Reading to Hereford due 12:46 will be terminated at Great Malvern. It will no longer call at Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford. It has been delayed at Reading and is now 38 minutes late. This is due to a late running train being in front of this one. Last Updated:27/12/2023 11:48 13:18 Hereford to Reading due 15:59 will be started from Great Malvern. It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury and Colwall. This is due to a late running train being in front of this one. Last Updated:27/12/2023 11:48 10:19 from Reading was held for the single line at Evesham and is now 61 late. The "late running train in front of this one" looks to have been a late arrival at Reading by train 1P20, the 08:15 from Shrub Hill to Reading. This left Shrub Hill 28 late, was held at Norton and at Charlbury, and arrived at Reading 50 late. It left Shrub Hill late becaause the empty stock from Stoke Gifford arrived 34 late. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: grahame on January 03, 2024, 11:54:59 For 2024 - new topic at http://www.passenger.chat/28354 - please carry on there. This thread remains open for archive and historical reference back.
Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: stuving on February 01, 2024, 14:51:42 The photograph in the RAIB announcement makes it look as if the wall is made up of two skins of brickwork, with little bonding between the two. You can see this more clearly in the RailAdvent piece. The RAIB report into this incident has been published (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/report-012024-train-striking-debris-at-yarnton), and identifies the big gap between the original wing wall and this thin wall in front (added to it at some time) as important. Not only did it hide the load-bearing wall behind it, but it meant that the last repair (pins grouted into the wall in 2013) was ineffective. It also meant that, when this wall bulged, the one behind was bulging even more, and the state of the wall was misassessed. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on February 01, 2024, 15:58:44 Quote The collapse happened within three weeks of an examining engineer observing that a bulge in the brickwork had increased since a previous inspection. There is a process for an examiner to directly notify Network Rail if they identify something that requires urgent attention, but this was not thought to be the case in this instance, according to the report. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: Worcester_Passenger on February 01, 2024, 18:14:18 OK, the big issue in the report is about the wing wall.
But given that there has been much discussion of late about emergency evacuation of trains, there's little mention of what actually happened here. It's noticeable that the incident happened at 18:35, but that evacuation of the train didn't start until 22:15 and wasn't complete until 23:57. The train was "carrying 365 passengers plus 2 crew" (para 26). Evacuation was "assisted by Oxfordshire Fire and Rescue Service" (para 31), who presumably set up lighting and ladders to move the passengers to the rescue train. I'm assuming that during this time the driver would be mainly concerned with the train. The conductor must have done a sterling job in keeping everybody calm and well-informed. And on their own - "2 crew" implies no trolley and no First Class host. Perhaps there were Hanborough passengers on board who said "we're out in the middle of nowhere - let's just stay on this nice safe train". We're not told when the fire service arrived - but I'd imagine that if they appeared inside the train then that must have been helpful. And the evacuation took over an hour and a half - worth remembering that. Title: Re: 2023 Delays and Cancellations Post by: ChrisB on February 01, 2024, 19:21:29 The RAIB would have only been concerned with this if there had been a safety aspect - but as the train was probably the safest place for stranded passengers, they found nothing to investigate.
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