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Journey by Journey => Plymouth and Cornwall => Topic started by: Timmer on January 22, 2023, 07:34:40



Title: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: Timmer on January 22, 2023, 07:34:40
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Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives

Due to a road vehicle blocking the railway between St Erth and St Ives all lines are closed.

Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

Customer Advice
Apologies to customers hoping to travel between St Erth and St Ives today. Unfortunately, due to a car being driven onto the track and abandoned in a place that's causing great difficulties for recovery, all lines between St Erth and St Ives are closed for the entire day. We anticipate the vehicle will be able to be recovered and the lines reopened ready for start of service on Monday 23rd January.

In terms of alternative transport for customers, we have at present requested the following: a mini bus to run in both directions as a half hourly service departing St Erth at xx:20 & xx:50, and departing St Ives at xx:35 & xx:05. This has been requested to start with a 09:18 off St Erth and an 09:35 off St Ives then running as previously described until approximately 8pm this evening.

We've also requested local bus ticket acceptance on First Kernow Route 17 that operates an hourly Sunday service. Bus 17 departs at the following locations: St Erth (to St Ives) SW-Interchange at xx:16 past the hour, calling Lelant bus stop opposite the Village Hall, Carbis Bay from Longstone Cross (NW bound) and then St Ives bus station. The return buses depart St Ives at xx:57 from the same locations but the opposite side of the road. Once we have confirmation these contingencies are in place we will advise accordingly.


Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: Timmer on January 22, 2023, 07:39:14
Article on said car blocking the line at Carbis Bay
https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/driver-crashes-car-down-embankment-8059826

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An abandoned car was found on the wrong transport terrain earlier this morning (January 22), as it was blocking the train tracks at Carbis Bay. The vehicle appeared to have left the road before crashing down the embankment and obstructing the tracks, with the driver nowhere to be found.

The police are currently undergoing enquiries to find the driver of the abandoned vehicle.


Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: bobm on January 22, 2023, 07:44:27
It is close to a 30 foot drop and is going to need a rail-mounted crane to rescue it.


Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: Bob_Blakey on January 22, 2023, 08:42:57
One can only hope that the driver or owner of the vehicle can be identified and then presented with an invoice covering the entire cost of recovery and the NR / GWR financial loss.


Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: a-driver on January 22, 2023, 12:20:35
It is close to a 30 foot drop and is going to need a rail-mounted crane to rescue it.

Surely a lot quicker to just cut it up on site and return to owner. Should teach them a lesson! 


Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: ellendune on January 22, 2023, 12:24:52
It is close to a 30 foot drop and is going to need a rail-mounted crane to rescue it.

Surely a lot quicker to just cut it up on site and return to owner. Should teach them a lesson! 

You presume that it was the owner who put it there! The car might have been stolen.


Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: a-driver on January 22, 2023, 12:47:04
It is close to a 30 foot drop and is going to need a rail-mounted crane to rescue it.

Surely a lot quicker to just cut it up on site and return to owner. Should teach them a lesson! 

You presume that it was the owner who put it there! The car might have been stolen.

Cut it up but don’t charge them a fee for doing so!

Leave them a roll of gaffer tape to put it back together.


Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: eXPassenger on January 22, 2023, 17:06:38
Article on said car blocking the line at Carbis Bay
https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/driver-crashes-car-down-embankment-8059826

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An abandoned car was found on the wrong transport terrain earlier this morning (January 22), as it was blocking the train tracks at Carbis Bay. The vehicle appeared to have left the road before crashing down the embankment and obstructing the tracks, with the driver nowhere to be found.

The police are currently undergoing enquiries to find the driver of the abandoned vehicle.

The local press strikes again.  surely it should be 'undertaking'?


Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: grahame on January 22, 2023, 17:35:11
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The police are currently undergoing enquiries to find the driver of the abandoned vehicle.
The local press strikes again.  surely it should be 'undertaking'?

It is correct if the car in question has police markings on it and is one of "theirs" ...


Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: AMLAG on January 22, 2023, 18:00:02

I wonder if consideration was given to the Long Rock cl 08 Pilot loco being sent (with a chain) to site to pull the car clear of the line so trains could have run today?



Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: bobm on January 22, 2023, 19:15:15
I think they wouldn’t risk the potential damage it might do to the infrastructure. 

(assuming of course the 08 is cleared for the branch)


Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: a-driver on January 22, 2023, 20:33:52
As I said before. Just cut it up. It’s a serious suggestion.

The cost of recovery and the loss of a days revenue will far exceed the value of the car. It shouldn’t take too long to ascertain wether the car is stolen or not.


Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 22, 2023, 21:53:32
One can only hope that the driver or owner of the vehicle can be identified and then presented with an invoice covering the entire cost of recovery and the NR / GWR financial loss.

I seem to recall that GWR don't do consequential loss claims....or is that just for its customers?  ;)


Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: Mark A on January 23, 2023, 10:35:33
Went through from the downhill side. Weird.

Mark

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/gallery/car-crashed-onto-railway-line-8060916


Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: Mark A on January 23, 2023, 10:41:25
VED and MOT to December '23, and MOT history clean. Slightly wittily-spaced number plate for those that find that stuff funny.

Mark


Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: Mark A on January 23, 2023, 10:48:28
I'm concerned that the vehicle may have damaged the bullhead rail post that once supported the bridge's weight limit sign as it's a good 'railway furniture survival'.

Mark

(https://i.postimg.cc/9QXPB753/carbis-bay-post-and-rail-line.jpg)


Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: stuving on January 23, 2023, 11:03:43
I'm concerned that the vehicle may have damaged the bullhead rail post that once supported the bridge's weight limit sign as it's a good 'railway furniture survival'.

Mark

No - it seems, not; it went through the fence further along the track (see last picture in that report, on second page).


Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: ChrisB on January 23, 2023, 11:51:02
Went through from the downhill side. Weird.

Mark

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/gallery/car-crashed-onto-railway-line-8060916

That article has a quote and a photo showing it went down the slope....

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A Devon and Cornwall Police spokesperson wrote on social media: "The driver of this vehicle ended up obstructing rail tracks at Carbis Bay having left the road and down an embankment.

(https://i2-prod.devonlive.com/incoming/article8060906.ece/ALTERNATES/s1227b/1_A-car-was-driven-onto-the-railway-line-at-Carbis-Bay-and-abandoned-on-the-tracks.jpg)


Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: Mark A on January 23, 2023, 13:42:02
Went through from the downhill side. Weird.

Mark

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/gallery/car-crashed-onto-railway-line-8060916

That article has a quote and a photo showing it went down the slope....

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A Devon and Cornwall Police spokesperson wrote on social media: "The driver of this vehicle ended up obstructing rail tracks at Carbis Bay having left the road and down an embankment.

Yup, I'd initially thought the driver would have come from something called Boskerris Road above the line, overshot the junction and through the fence there but... they appear to have come *up* the road from the bay, ignored the bend at the bridge, straight on, through the fence there and down the embankment.

The photo also shows little to no marks on the road so no slamming on of the brakes - and also possibly airborne as the fence was far more of a casualty than the edge of the cutting which has only minor damage. Oh and for good measure what may have been a fence post has impacted the bonnet and restyled the Mercedes front end as a BMW.

Another unexpected detail, the airbags do not appear to have been triggered. Or perhaps that vehicle has a mode that deploys them as parachutes or cushions for landing.

Mark


Title: Re: Cancellations to services between St Erth and St Ives 22/1
Post by: CyclingSid on January 23, 2023, 17:27:01
Imagine the response if it had happened during an event at Carbis Bay last year.



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