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Title: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: grahame on August 29, 2024, 08:43:34
From  Politico (https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-rail-minister-peter-hendy-fired-gareth-dennis-engineer-safety-concerns-trains-london-euston-station/)

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LONDON — The U.K. government’s new transport minister got an award-winning railway engineer sacked for speaking to the media about safety concerns at one of Britain’s busiest stations, POLITICO can reveal.

In his previous role running government-owned infrastructure manager Network Rail, Peter Hendy threatened to withhold public contracts from the man’s employer while urging disciplinary action — and asked officials to “deal with him.”

Hendy was angered after the engineer, Gareth Dennis, told a journalist that overcrowding at London’s Euston station was “unsafe” because it could result in a crush — despite concern also having been voiced by the official rail regulator.

Article continues (below an advert  ;D )


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Mark A on August 29, 2024, 09:17:04
Reading this as a sometimes traveller on the rail system leaves an immediate unpleasant taste in my mouth.

Mark


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: ChrisB on August 29, 2024, 11:40:31
I'm not sure that an FOI request on staff matters like this would produce the copy emails, surely?


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Mark A on August 29, 2024, 13:48:12
Now in the Guardian.

Mark

https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/aug/29/peter-hendy-ex-network-rail-chair-threatened-firm-engineer-euston-criticism (https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/aug/29/peter-hendy-ex-network-rail-chair-threatened-firm-engineer-euston-criticism)


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: bobm on August 29, 2024, 13:55:06
It seems the sacked worker has now posted additions to Lord Hendy's Wikipedia entry.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: TaplowGreen on August 29, 2024, 15:16:43
Now in the Guardian.

Mark

https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/aug/29/peter-hendy-ex-network-rail-chair-threatened-firm-engineer-euston-criticism (https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/aug/29/peter-hendy-ex-network-rail-chair-threatened-firm-engineer-euston-criticism)

.......that's the first I knew about Hendy paying off a prostitute with £40 of Oyster cards and a badge......a cad and a bounder!  :o


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Red Squirrel on August 29, 2024, 16:01:22
Now in the Guardian.

Mark

https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/aug/29/peter-hendy-ex-network-rail-chair-threatened-firm-engineer-euston-criticism (https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/aug/29/peter-hendy-ex-network-rail-chair-threatened-firm-engineer-euston-criticism)

.......that's the first I knew about Hendy paying off a prostitute with £40 of Oyster cards and a badge......a cad and a bounder!  :o

A quick check on the talk page of Hendy’s Wikipedia page is edifying. The Guardian, bless it, is simply quoting the ever-reliable Daily Mail. Meanwhile Dennis’ comments, with his agreement, have been removed while a more neutral editor looks for a more reliable source.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: bobm on August 29, 2024, 16:18:19
It still appears on Gareth Dennis' own Wikipedia page.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: grahame on August 29, 2024, 16:50:19
The original article now has a footnote:

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Update: This story has been updated to clarify a reference to Hendy’s appointment as rail minister.



I am adding an admin note to this thread to remind members that they are responsible for their own posts and any consequences thereof.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: TaplowGreen on August 29, 2024, 17:44:12
I'm not sure that an FOI request on staff matters like this would produce the copy emails, surely?

I can't imagine why not, it sails through the Public Interest test.

That a man in Hendy's position appears to have misused his position,  hectored, threatened and bullied a supplier in this way and sought to silence a whistleblower's well founded and well informed safety considerations - indeed to intercede with his employer to have him disciplined -  is breathtaking.

I occasionally find Gareth Dennis petulant and opinionated but on this occasion anyone who has experienced Euston can sympathise and will empathise.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 29, 2024, 18:01:55
I've renamed this topic, as it's clearly no longer linked particularly to Euston.

I'd also like to support my fellow admins and moderators here for their previous posts in this topic - we all need to be careful what we post on a forum which is publicly readable.

CfN.  :-X


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: TaplowGreen on August 29, 2024, 18:04:12
I've renamed this topic, as it's clearly no longer linked particularly to Euston.

I'd also like to support my fellow admins and moderators here for their previous posts in this topic - we all need to be careful what we post on a forum which is publicly readable.

CfN.  :-X

Nothing to my knowledge is being posted (at least not by me) that isn't already widely available in the media and elsewhere in the public domain.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 29, 2024, 18:14:58
That's fine - and let's keep it that way - thanks!

CfN  :)


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Western Pathfinder on August 29, 2024, 18:48:05
Title of this thread is a little misleading I feel
Could we perhaps remove the references to imber as it has absolutely nothing to do with the matter at hand other than Peter drives his bus to raise funds for what is undoubtedly a good cause,thanks.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 29, 2024, 19:08:46
Hmm.  :-X

I didn't have enough room to post his full formal title in the heading, but it is actually:

Peter Gerard Hendy, Baron Hendy of Richmond Hill of Imber in the County of Wiltshire, CBE

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hendy  ;)

CfN  :-X


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Western Pathfinder on August 29, 2024, 19:30:31
Chris my request still stands  Of Richmond Hill is fine and is what is used in general
Yours Reuben.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 29, 2024, 20:17:30
With my thanks to colleague Western Pathfinder here on the moderator team for his comments - I have now simplified the heading of this clearly ongoing topic. ;)



Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Western Pathfinder on August 29, 2024, 20:37:14
For which many thanks Chris .


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: ChrisB on August 29, 2024, 21:07:41
Nothing to my knowledge is being posted (at least not by me) that isn't already widely available in the media and elsewhere in the public domain.

Still need to be careful, TG - repeating a libel is a further libel, however public the first libel might be.....


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: TaplowGreen on August 29, 2024, 21:11:37
Nothing to my knowledge is being posted (at least not by me) that isn't already widely available in the media and elsewhere in the public domain.

Still need to be careful, TG - repeating a libel is a further libel, however public the first libel might be.....

What libel has been repeated?


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: ChrisB on August 29, 2024, 21:13:10
I'm just sayin'.....nothing, *yet*


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Mark A on August 29, 2024, 21:20:39
Now, New Civil Engineer.

Mark


https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/lord-hendy-forced-systra-to-sack-engineer-for-raising-concerns-about-crowd-crush-at-euston-station-29-08-2024/ (https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/lord-hendy-forced-systra-to-sack-engineer-for-raising-concerns-about-crowd-crush-at-euston-station-29-08-2024/)


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: grahame on August 29, 2024, 21:27:15
Nothing to my knowledge is being posted (at least not by me) that isn't already widely available in the media and elsewhere in the public domain.

Still need to be careful, TG - repeating a libel is a further libel, however public the first libel might be.....

What libel has been repeated?

None, we are assured - moving on.  But, yes, if something libellous appears in the mainstream press, it does not absolve poster here, and the team (with me personally at the head) being - err - responsible if asked to act and don't.   

There have only been three incidents I can recall in the 18 years which,  although sorted, I would rather not repeat.  It's not always possible - and in one case it certainly wasn't - to know where the line is and, yes, the same thing appeared in the main line press.  You may consider me a coward, but please forgive me erring on the side of caution on a story.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: TaplowGreen on August 30, 2024, 07:43:28
Independent confirming that the matter is now reaching the PM - could be a very short ministerial career?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/starmer-rail-minister-lord-hendy-whistleblower-b2604093.html


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Mark A on August 30, 2024, 10:00:34
Rail Magazine. (They've used a photo of the concourse showing the previous rather more visually quiet train indicators, which were stood down circa November '22, replaced by the pair of two sided super bright installations on the concourse itself - with the old train indicators replaced by the wall-sized advertising screen)

The second link is to a press release from Network Rail from November 2022, covering the repositioned departure screens (though, doesn't mention the imminent arrival of the big screen).

Mark

https://www.railmagazine.com/news/2024/08/29/lord-hendy-accused-of-threatening-company-over-euston-criticism (https://www.railmagazine.com/news/2024/08/29/lord-hendy-accused-of-threatening-company-over-euston-criticism)

https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/high-definition-departure-boards-for-euston-station-passengers


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: bradshaw on August 30, 2024, 20:54:31
The correspondence is being released bit by bit on Twitter


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: JayMac on August 30, 2024, 23:32:00
Has someone reinstalled the revolving door entrance at DfT Great Minster House? It was to be hoped that the new government might hold on to rail ministers a little longer than the former administration.

I think Peter Hendy might not be long for the job.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 31, 2024, 01:38:35
From the BBC (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy76j4nyxlko):

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Minister faces claims he threatened firm in old job

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The appointment of Lord Hendy as a transport minister is being questioned over claims about his conduct in a previous role as chairman of Network Rail.

Lord Hendy is accused of threatening to withhold public contracts from an engineering firm, Systra, after one of their senior engineers spoke to the press about safety concerns at Euston Station.

Shadow transport secretary Helen Whately said the situation raised "serious" questions for both Lord Hendy and the Labour Party.

Gareth Dennis, who was sacked by Systra following Lord Hendy’s complaint, had told the Independent in April that levels of overcrowding in Euston Station were sometimes "unsafe".

Mr Dennis said his remarks were evidenced by a safety improvement notice that had been served by the rail regulator in October 2023. Network Rail says it resolved the issues raised by December 2023.

In May, Lord Hendy wrote a letter to the chief executive of Systra, Nick Salt, asking for evidence to substantiate the allegation, or alternatively, details of any action being taken against Mr Dennis for his remarks.

In the letter, first reported by the Politico news website, external and seen by the BBC, he reminded Mr Salt that "finding a potential supplier criticising a possible client reflects adversely on your likelihood of doing business with us or our supply chain".

Mr Salt responded with an apology about any "alarm" caused by the press comments, while also stressing that Mr Dennis’ publicly expressed views do not reflect those of the company.

Lord Hendy, dissatisfied with the response, suggested that further action was needed, while offering to escalate his concerns to the firm’s shareholders and head office.

Mr Dennis was suspended by his employer several days later, which cited Lord Hendy’s complaint as the reason behind this.

He told the BBC that he was offered an employment reference and a lump sum in return for leaving the company voluntarily and signing a confidentiality agreement, which he declined.

Following a disciplinary process he was dismissed in July with four weeks’ notice for allegedly bringing both his employer and Network Rail into disrepute.

Mr Dennis, who won the Young Rail Professional Distinguished Service Award 2024, said he had been left with depression and anxiety as a result. "It’s been an awful three months… an industry I care deeply about has chewed me up and spat me out," he added.

Mr Dennis also argued that Lord Hendy should resign from the government because "someone who responds so vindictively… to safety concerns should not be in charge of shaping the rail industry".

Writing on X, formerly Twitter, shadow transport secretary Helen Whately said: "The way to handle whistleblowers is to investigate their concerns. Threatening their employer and getting them sacked is the last thing a government minister should do."

Ms Whately has written to the Cabinet Office Minister Pat McFadden to ask further questions about the vetting process for the minister and his suitability for public office, in light of the claims.

The Department for Transport did not provide a statement but advised that the minister would not be available for interview.

The Labour Party has been approached for comment.

A Network Rail spokesperson said: "The rail regulator’s concerns raised in September 2023 about passenger congestion at Euston station were addressed and put to bed in December 2023, months before the Independent piece was published. Decisions on how employee conduct is handled is a matter for employers – in this case, Systra."

A spokesperson for Systra Ltd said: "We are unable to comment on individual staff matters other than to confirm that a thorough investigation was carried out."



Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: grahame on August 31, 2024, 04:59:36
One of the things that I am reminded of by this story is the very fine line between industry partners in telling the real situation and stepping in to protect and support one another.

It is my personal view that a lot of the daily operation problems, with shortages of staff and trains reducing timetables at short notice in a way that disturbs passengers, emanates from the Department for Transport's policy on stock allocation and pay levels / budgets which they impose on the Train operating companies who, however, they request and require to carry the can.    This "you take the blame for the consequences of our decisions" is enforced by "you took on the contract / franchise which requires you to take the blame" and "if you tell, what change do you think you have of renewal of more contracts?"

There is a need in public transport contracts run by private / commercial firms for them to consider their owners income which on occasions is at odds with the good of the passenger base, but we have seen sucha xatternbin such issues that - I suggest - we should look to the common element which is the DfT and its Treasury and Downing Street masters.

So this is not really a new situation ... just that, perhaps, it's the first time that such a bullying of contractor - by NR or by the DfT - has made the headlines in this way.   I sort of tacitly accepted that previous SoS's had a hold over the TOCs who sometimes knew better but could not say.   

I wondered if we are in for an "end of system" year where the remaining contracts are not expected to be renewed and so "what have the companies that own the TOCs got to lose?".  But actually they have a lot to lose; they are also bus operators under contracts, they are looking for crumbs (that may turn out to be much more than crumbs) in open access operation, and I would not put it past the DfT to pay an experienced management team to manage and run some train services.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: TaplowGreen on August 31, 2024, 08:00:58
One of the things that I am reminded of by this story is the very fine line between industry partners in telling the real situation and stepping in to protect and support one another.

It is my personal view that a lot of the daily operation problems, with shortages of staff and trains reducing timetables at short notice in a way that disturbs passengers, emanates from the Department for Transport's policy on stock allocation and pay levels / budgets which they impose on the Train operating companies who, however, they request and require to carry the can.    This "you take the blame for the consequences of our decisions" is enforced by "you took on the contract / franchise which requires you to take the blame" and "if you tell, what change do you think you have of renewal of more contracts?"

There is a need in public transport contracts run by private / commercial firms for them to consider their owners income which on occasions is at odds with the good of the passenger base, but we have seen sucha xatternbin such issues that - I suggest - we should look to the common element which is the DfT and its Treasury and Downing Street masters.

So this is not really a new situation ... just that, perhaps, it's the first time that such a bullying of contractor - by NR or by the DfT - has made the headlines in this way.   I sort of tacitly accepted that previous SoS's had a hold over the TOCs who sometimes knew better but could not say.   

I wondered if we are in for an "end of system" year where the remaining contracts are not expected to be renewed and so "what have the companies that own the TOCs got to lose?".  But actually they have a lot to lose; they are also bus operators under contracts, they are looking for crumbs (that may turn out to be much more than crumbs) in open access operation, and I would not put it past the DfT to pay an experienced management team to manage and run some train services.

No. This is a completely different and clearly defined scenario.

This is straightforwardly about a powerful individual at the head of a public company abusing his power in a flagrant attempt to bully, silence and shut down an individual who is highlighting legitimate, but inconvenient concerns about safety, and the craven nature of that individual's manager being sufficiently intimidated to go along with it.

We are often told by the experts on this forum that absolutely nothing trumps safety on the railway, so shutting down expert whistleblowers is a perilous way to proceed.

Your final paragraph however, yes. TOCs have little to lose now that "nationalisation" is approaching. They will keep the lights on, little more as has been suggested elsewhere.

As to your final suggestion, if all we have to look forward to is the current management teams in a GBR rather than a GWR tie then God help us.



Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: ellendune on August 31, 2024, 09:21:34
As to your final suggestion, if all we have to look forward to is the current management teams in a GBR rather than a GWR tie then God help us.

If that were case then I would agree.  But other proposed changes are much more far reaching such as an end to the Treasury micro managing costs without a thought to the revenue to one where managers get to manage the services as a business where they can manage both income and expenditure creatively to achieve an agreed bottom line is a major change.  And no I don't mean just putting up fares, but genuinely growing the business. 


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: eightonedee on August 31, 2024, 10:32:58
Two observations-

1 - Even before the pandemic, there was clearly a growing reluctance in the private sector to take on new franchises, with former major players like Stagecoach and National Express leaving the market, and the difficulty that HMG was having obtaining bids in the light of the requirement to take on historic pension liabilities.

2 - I think it is naive to think that the Treasury will not continue to be the real controllers behind the scenes. This will translate into DfT being required to keep a strict eye on what GBR spends, which in turn will mean a great risk of the kind of nonsense micro-management that I have largely found out about from membership of this forum. The main benefit should be that there will be more flexibility in not having the operational elements of the system broken down into units that are independent operating companies - the problems from the collapse of the Crewkerne tunnel with running trains west of it should  be easier to resolve, and hopefully there will be no more procurement of new trains to replace recent ones on some lines while others struggle on with 35 year old stock. BUT - he who pays the piper calls the tune. There will have to be some kind of sectorial or regional operating structure, and some kind of financial control that reflects this, and if old habits die hard it's sadly not difficult to see a world in which we still see pointless micro-management in GBR.

Let's keep our fingers crossed. But what we do not want is a bullying culture from a would-be "strong man" at the helm. Remember Fred Goodwin at Royal Bank of Scotland? He famously flew into a rage because someone did not arrange the two different colours of chairs around a table in the correct order. Look where that ended.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: ellendune on August 31, 2024, 11:16:35
2 - I think it is naive to think that the Treasury will not continue to be the real controllers behind the scenes.

I am sure they will control capital - but they need to get back to 5 year control periods for improvements. 

However if they can control profit/loss rather than expenditure that would be the revolution.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: ChrisB on August 31, 2024, 16:16:46
From the BBC (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy76j4nyxlko):

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Writing on X, formerly Twitter, shadow transport secretary Helen Whately said: "The way to handle whistleblowers is to investigate their concerns. Threatening their employer and getting them sacked is the last thing a government minister should do."

Helen Whately can't really comment as the events being discussed all took part under her party's watch - pre the election!!!
Also, Gareth himself has agreed that he wasn't whistleblowing - as the info was in the public domain. So the laws on that don't apply re job security.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: TaplowGreen on August 31, 2024, 17:25:21
Two observations-

1 - Even before the pandemic, there was clearly a growing reluctance in the private sector to take on new franchises, with former major players like Stagecoach and National Express leaving the market, and the difficulty that HMG was having obtaining bids in the light of the requirement to take on historic pension liabilities.

2 - I think it is naive to think that the Treasury will not continue to be the real controllers behind the scenes. This will translate into DfT being required to keep a strict eye on what GBR spends, which in turn will mean a great risk of the kind of nonsense micro-management that I have largely found out about from membership of this forum. The main benefit should be that there will be more flexibility in not having the operational elements of the system broken down into units that are independent operating companies - the problems from the collapse of the Crewkerne tunnel with running trains west of it should  be easier to resolve, and hopefully there will be no more procurement of new trains to replace recent ones on some lines while others struggle on with 35 year old stock. BUT - he who pays the piper calls the tune. There will have to be some kind of sectorial or regional operating structure, and some kind of financial control that reflects this, and if old habits die hard it's sadly not difficult to see a world in which we still see pointless micro-management in GBR.

Let's keep our fingers crossed. But what we do not want is a bullying culture from a would-be "strong man" at the helm. Remember Fred Goodwin at Royal Bank of Scotland? He famously flew into a rage because someone did not arrange the two different colours of chairs around a table in the correct order. Look where that ended.

(Applause) Two very astute observations in my opinion.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: anthony215 on September 01, 2024, 09:31:33
Has someone reinstalled the revolving door entrance at DfT Great Minster House? It was to be hoped that the new government might hold on to rail ministers a little longer than the former administration.

I think Peter Hendy might not be long for the job.

My money is him being gone by Friday. Think our PM had better get on the phone to Lord Adonis


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: bradshaw on September 01, 2024, 11:26:08
William Barter posts about it on Twitter are worth reading
He has a great deal if experience as his cv shows

http://www.williambarter.co.uk/expertise-and-credentials.html


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: ChrisB on September 01, 2024, 14:42:09
Agreed - he's talked a lot of sense about this.

Interesting that Nigel Harris has stayed completely out of making any comment.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Mark A on September 01, 2024, 17:10:32
For a perspective that presumably has some input from 'Nigel Harris' as well as one other, it's worth looking out the @greensignallers account though.

Mark


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: ChrisB on September 01, 2024, 17:12:32
Yep, nothing there yet. Waiting for their next podcast....


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Western Pathfinder on September 02, 2024, 02:03:15
Both Nigel and Richard know better than most of us,let's see what comes of Thursdays next edition
Nigel especially knows Gareth of old having had him as a regular contributor when he was at the helm of Rail.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Mark A on September 02, 2024, 09:09:00
... but then there's the aphorism bequeathed to the railway by the second of that pair, which I won't repeat here as it's a bit sweary**.

When this broke it gave me an immediate bad taste in my mouth. Something that has not gone away.

Mark

** a lot sweary.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Western Pathfinder on September 05, 2024, 14:35:01
The latest edition of the podcast goes into more detail and is worth a listen /watch on YouTube.
More of this is becoming clearer,however I'm not yet sufficiently well informed to pass a comment.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Mark A on September 05, 2024, 16:12:43
Also, additional recources for that podcast in the form of links to the various documents.

Thanks, Western Pathfinder, for the link to the relevant Greensignals podcast, indeed a helpful listen, though it's left the uncomfortable impression that the chain of events set in motion by this is currently in an most undesirable stalled state.

Mark

https://www.greensignals.org/green-signals-episode-49-additional-resources/ (https://www.greensignals.org/green-signals-episode-49-additional-resources/)


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: TaplowGreen on September 05, 2024, 17:09:38
Here's an interview with Gareth Dennis giving his account of events re: Hendy.

https://www.railtech.com/all/2024/09/03/appalling-engineer-fired-on-uk-rail-ministers-orders-speaks-out-about-farcical-dismissal/


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Electric train on September 05, 2024, 19:10:10
Both Nigel and Richard know better than most of us,let's see what comes of Thursdays next edition
Nigel especially knows Gareth of old having had him as a regular contributor when he was at the helm of Rail.

One of there key messages in their podcast was "if you want / need to whistle blow, then do it through the correct channels, as this will prevent you getting the sack"


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: TaplowGreen on September 05, 2024, 20:02:34
Both Nigel and Richard know better than most of us,let's see what comes of Thursdays next edition
Nigel especially knows Gareth of old having had him as a regular contributor when he was at the helm of Rail.

One of there key messages in their podcast was "if you want / need to whistle blow, then do it through the correct channels, as this will prevent you getting the sack"

Nobody should ever be disciplined, let alone sacked for highlighting safety issues irrespective of what channel they use, and safety issues certainly still exist at Euston.

Hendy/Network Rail could have addressed his comments calmly and openly, God knows they have enough PR people to get a message across.

I think most people can recognise a bully when they see one.

If you prefer a compliant partisan to a critical friend in any environment, sooner or later it may well come back to haunt you.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: JayMac on September 05, 2024, 20:10:15

One of there key messages in their podcast was "if you want / need to whistle blow, then do it through the correct channels, as this will prevent you upsetting someone who can misuse their power and influence to threaten your employer by not awarding them future contracts unless they dismiss you."

Fixed that for you. :P

If the guy concerned breached company policies then that's a matter entirely between employer and employee. Peter Hendy shouldn't have stuck his oar in.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Electric train on September 06, 2024, 06:56:29

One of there key messages in their podcast was "if you want / need to whistle blow, then do it through the correct channels, as this will prevent you upsetting someone who can misuse their power and influence to threaten your employer by not awarding them future contracts unless they dismiss you."

Fixed that for you. :P

If the guy concerned breached company policies then that's a matter entirely between employer and employee. Peter Hendy shouldn't have stuck his oar in.

Peter Hendy from what was commented in the podcast not ask for the individual to be sacked, Hendy did, according to the podcast, say they (Network Rail) in a letter to Systra could cease using Systra as a supplier.

There are a number of confidential reporting lines regarding safety concerns in the rail industry, all of which are widely known within the industry.

 


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Mark A on September 06, 2024, 08:14:05
Walking past Peter Hendy's old gaff the other day, I was thinking: did he sign up to the Coffeeshop?

Mark


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: PrestburyRoad on September 06, 2024, 08:39:05
Members of the professional engineering institutions have committed to obey their institution's code of conduct.  Purely as an example here is a link to the code of conduct for the Institution of Mechanical Engineers https://www.imeche.org/news/news-article/code_of_conduct_for_members.aspx (https://www.imeche.org/news/news-article/code_of_conduct_for_members.aspx).

I haven't checked which of the various people mentioned in this thread are members of professional engineering institutions, nor have I assessed whether their behaviours have been in accordance with the codes.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: Western Pathfinder on September 06, 2024, 08:45:32
Not that I'm aware of Mark,though he has been known,to read the odd post which has been linked to him by yours truly.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: IndustryInsider on September 06, 2024, 09:48:53
There are a number of confidential reporting lines regarding safety concerns in the rail industry, all of which are widely known within the industry.

Indeed, with CIRAS probably being the most well known and trusted:

https://www.ciras.org.uk/


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: eightonedee on September 06, 2024, 10:09:06
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Peter Hendy from what was commented in the podcast not ask for the individual to be sacked, Hendy did, according to the podcast, say they (Network Rail) in a letter to Systra could cease using Systra as a supplier.
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..and this is one of the objectional aspects of his behaviour. I had not heard of Systra until this story broke, so looked them up on line. It is clear that Systra UK is a substantial consultancy, but that UK rail projects are a major (possibly the majority) of the business. It would have placed Systra's management in an invidious position - fire Gareth Dennis or lose you business. It is clearly cheaper for them to risk an unfair dismissal claim that prejudice their business.

Add to this the fact that this is a safety related matter. NR seem to make much of the fact that they got a sign off from ORR in response to an improvement notice (although if you read the letter from John Larkinson of ORR to Iain Stewart, it says there are still 6 Improvement Notices "open" - unclear if these also relate to Euston or it's the total nationally). Notwithstanding, there are still complaints being made by passengers about feeling unsafe at times at the station.

Peter Hendy is now a minister, who has safety obligations. We have seen the publication of the Grenfell report this week. All the many parties involved in the cladding work seem to have obtained necessary consents and approvals for the work they did. The authorities ignored tenants' expressions of concern. This has understandably been severely criticised. But we now have a newly-appointed minister who seems to use commercial threats to stifle comments on safety issues. Surely this is unacceptable?


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: WSW Frome on September 06, 2024, 11:07:15
There is a major article in the Daily Telegraph today detailing Lord Hendy's extensive and varied family history and career. Although written from a Telegraph perspective it does not make comfortable reading but very enlightening.
I cannot provide a link and normal access routes arrive at the paywall. I found it through the Google news feeds which provided the full article unembargoed. Recommended reading. 


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: bradshaw on September 09, 2024, 18:39:48
Retired engineer David Shirres has engaged with Dennis on the Green Signallers podcast. It makes interesting reading.
https://x.com/davidshirres/status/1832604096852832382?s=61&t=VlafMC5gF9tidw36b1Y8JQ

Meanwhile the RIA has issued a statement which has headed another thread by Dennis
https://x.com/garethdennis/status/1833186645580882099?s=61&t=VlafMC5gF9tidw36b1Y8JQ



Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: JayMac on October 03, 2024, 01:33:34
London TravelWatch are now saying that overcrowding at Euston is puttimg passengers in danger.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm2eglg020o

What threats can Peter Hendy make against LTW for highlighting this issue? Who will he demand be sacked this time?


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: ChrisB on October 03, 2024, 11:49:54
Yeah, they just had to stick their oar in. funny that the crowding has got no worse since the pandemic, but this is the first time since then that they choose to put out a press release. Funny that.


Title: Re: Peter, Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill
Post by: JayMac on October 03, 2024, 16:26:02
What is funny about the timing of the LTW press release ChrisB?

Being dismissive of safety concerns, no matter who raises them, isn't wise in my opinion. Safety should never wait for an "I told you so" moment.

Office of Rail and Road, a respected rail engineer, and now a passenger watchdog, have all raised concerns over public safety at Euston.

I hope you're not on the wrong side of history, ChrisB.



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