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Journey by Journey => To Oxford, Didcot and Reading from West => Topic started by: Lee on February 03, 2007, 10:55:28



Title: Train Fire In The Didcot Area (03/02/2007)
Post by: Lee on February 03, 2007, 10:55:28
From the FGW website :

Train services between Swindon and Reading are being disrupted due to a fire in a power car in the Didcot area. Short notice alterations, cancellations and delays can be expected.

There is no risk to customers.



Title: Re: Train Fire In The Didcot Area (03/02/2007)
Post by: Lee on February 03, 2007, 11:29:03
FGW have revised their message to state that the fire is in the Didcot station area. It does look as if trains are being diverted.


Title: Re: Train Fire In The Didcot Area (03/02/2007)
Post by: Lee on February 04, 2007, 14:53:36
Here is an article on this (link below.)
http://www.oxfordmail.net/display.var.1168323.0.express_train_catches_fire.php

More passenger reaction can be found in the link below.
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1307.msg3695#msg3695


Title: Re: Train Fire In The Didcot Area (03/02/2007)
Post by: Jim on March 08, 2007, 17:09:45
All the 1's that have caught light recentally have been the new MTU power cars


Title: Re: Train Fire In The Didcot Area (03/02/2007)
Post by: Jim on March 15, 2007, 17:06:33
All the 1's that have caught light recentally have been the new MTU power cars

Now that must be a cause for concern!

It must be for Alison


Title: Re: Train Fire In The Didcot Area (03/02/2007)
Post by: Richard on April 15, 2007, 19:20:05
I was personally very disappointed when First Great Western chose to Re-Engine their HST power car fleet (loaned from Angel Trains) with the MTU Diesel Engine.

For nearly 30 years the Paxman Valenta V12 Diesel Engines have given stirling service, and the updated modern version, the VP185 is one of the most popular Diesel Engine families of its type in the world. Over 70% of production at Paxman (MAN B&W) Colchester is exported. These VP185 engines are used the world over in Ferries, Power Generators, and Ships, including our own Royal Navy.

Yes, the MTU is cleaner and more fuel efficient than the original Paxman Valenta Engines, but so is the up-to-date Paxman Valenta VP185 series. The maintenance schedule for the MTU Engines is heavy, requiring Oil Changes and Tappet Adjustments at 2000 hours running. Internal Engine inspections using endoscopes are regularly required, adding to the maintenance schedule.

Strangely enough, when the first London Bendy-Buses (Mercedes-Benz) were introduced, there was a series of worrying engine fires with them. It seems history is repeating itself.

 


Title: Re: Train Fire In The Didcot Area (03/02/2007)
Post by: grahame on April 16, 2007, 04:41:57
Welcome, Richard, and thanks for that insite. 


Title: Re: Train Fire In The Didcot Area (03/02/2007)
Post by: Jim on April 16, 2007, 17:25:35
IIRC, the Vp185 project was abandonned because they become less realiable then the Valentas?


Title: Re: Train Fire In The Didcot Area (03/02/2007)
Post by: Richard on April 19, 2007, 19:04:18
With the greatest respect, the VP185 quickly earned the reputation as one of the best Diesel Engines of its type in the world. Paxman's owners "MAN B&W" transferred VP185 production from Colchester to Stockport in February 2003. This move was done too quickly and Stockport made a loss on every engine they built, so all the production equipment was sold off.

However the world demand for VP185s was so strong that production of them was restarted at Colchester in July 2005. They are used successfully all over the world in ships, (many naval ships) trains and power plants. They are amongst the very best in their class for power , fuel usage, emissions and reliability. All the new British Royal Navy future vessels are planned with VP185 power plants.

As I understand, First Great Western ruled the VP185 out on cost ground, which allowed them to "Go German" and purchase the MTU Diesel Engine, (and the necessary Voith cooling system required for the MTUs), which I believe was always their intention. In my opinion, some folk seem to believe that if something is German, then it is the best. Well the German HST railway disaster where a steel tyre came of a wheel and caused that horrific accident disproved that. Also if anyone thinks BMWs are good cars, then look at all their vehicle recalls in the UK and USA.

No, I believe what we are seeing is pure unpatriotic behaviour, when our BREL Railway production plant was sold off, half ended up in Alstom's hands, and they closed the manufacturing business last year. Perhaps Bombardier, who own the remaining half will do the same in the future, and that will be the very end of over 150 years of UK Railway Train production.

We built most of the world's railways in the past, and now we don't even build our own any more. It's not just Railways, our Police drive BMWs while our Jaguar factory is on short time working, they use Mitsubishi 4x4s instead of the best in the world, Land Rover. I think this country is gripped by some kind of unpatriotic fever, where it is the done thing to buy anything, so long as it's not British made. And that affects us all in the UK, all that money going abroad damaged the UK balance of payments, and so we all end up paying more income tax to balance the books.




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