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Title: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 06, 2008, 22:30:09
"A deaf and blind family pet was saved from certain death after it was abducted from home and left to die on railway tracks, near Hayle.  Flossy, an 18-year-old poodle bitch with cataracts in both eyes, was found tied to rails in the path of oncoming trains at St Erth station.  A station guard discovered the helpless animal bound by the neck with bailing twine just after starting his shift at 6.30am, on October 24."

For full details, see http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/homepagenews/Pet-dog-tied-train-tracks/article-451104-detail/article.html

And 'Well done!' to that member of staff for their actions.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on November 06, 2008, 22:33:00
that is so wrong


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 07, 2008, 21:56:32
An update to this story, from the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/7714157.stm

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A spokesman for First Great Western told BBC News it was an act of appalling cruelty and the guard had reacted instinctively and done his job.

Well done  ;)


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: stebbo on December 05, 2008, 19:54:05
Whoever it was is plain sick


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: ReWind on December 07, 2008, 21:03:22
Sick


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: winterbourne on July 30, 2010, 10:40:49
Having passed St Erth the other day, I noticed a lot of ground work going on behind the station. I guess this the land clearance for the proposed Park & ride, and subsequent closure of Lelenat Saltings.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: Coombe Stn on July 30, 2010, 15:48:04
Earthworks on the industrial site side I have been told are nothing to do with the Park and Ride.
The propsed site is on the other side of the station.
Cutbacks in spending have put this on the back burner.
This is only what I have been told, if anyone knows different maybee they could shed some light on it ??


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: RichardB on July 30, 2010, 15:59:56
As I understand it, St Erth Park & Ride is still going ahead to open in around two years time.   The current car park will be enlarged and there will be a brand new, large car park built on the field behind the down platform.  The intention is for there to be parking for 600 or so cars as a park and ride not just for St Ives but also for Penzance.

I don't think the work currently happening is linked to the project.

In terms of Lelant Saltings, there is no intention to close it, instead it would get a very basic one train a day type service.   Lelant would get more calls and every train would call at Carbis Bay.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: chrisoates on August 15, 2010, 14:27:32
Let the Train take the strain....

Today it couldn't (2 x 150)

14:25 St Ives to St Erth due 14:39
This train has been revised.It will no longer call at: Carbis Bay and Lelant Saltings.This is due to an unusually large passenger flow.
Last Updated: 15/08/2010 14:07


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: jester on August 15, 2010, 19:20:10
Well it most certainly did! The previous trip missed out the saltings on its run to St.erth as it was running extremly late and made up some time this way.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: LiskeardRich on August 16, 2010, 01:07:18
i was going to go into st ives earlier seen the numbers of passengers at st erth and changed my mind, the service is pretty much a non stop shuttle run isnt it? or is it not run so intensive on a sunday?


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: LiskeardRich on July 18, 2011, 19:07:59
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-14182026

nearing completion for the Park and Ride. is the park and ride for St Ives, or Penzance or both though? its right beside the main road on the way to both!


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: RailCornwall on July 18, 2011, 20:15:41
... PLANS are nearing completion not the scheme itself.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: LiskeardRich on July 18, 2011, 22:08:02
oops only skim read and posted! missed the important bit about only being plAns, but relevant link none the less


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: RailCornwall on August 18, 2011, 12:03:52
More information on the St Erth scheme will be available shortly, meanwhile Cornwall Council have issued a Press Release, which infers enhanced rail services west of Truro as a result.

see here ^..

WWW.CORNWALL.GOV.UK (http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=28802)
18-Aug-2011 @ 12:02


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: jester on August 18, 2011, 13:35:13
Loving the phrase 'taking advantage of the available capacity on the railway' ??? Have any of them travelled recently???


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: Maxwell P on August 18, 2011, 16:56:55
Long overdue, but I hope that if this does go ahead, it will be done sympathetically with due regard for the gem that is St Erth station.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: vacman on November 22, 2011, 01:06:44
Compared to Other places the Size of Penzance, Penzance is riding things well, there aren't that many empty Shops in Penzance.
Nope, Penzance is far worse than most places, the fact that most of the shops that are still open are all pound shops and junk shops says it all, there are probably 4 "big" names in the town and one of those is poundland and Iceland another, need I say more?........... Basically there is nothing to attract people from outside the town, if you live in west Cornwall you may as well go to Truro (like most do), Penzance shot it's self in the foot by not allowing the likes of M&S to come into the town.

If proof were ever needed just look how many commuters travel on the 0741 and 0828 from Penzance compared with how many arrive on the sleeper and the XC that arrives just after and the very few daytrippers outside of holiday season.



Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: grahame on November 22, 2011, 04:16:39
Go 10 miles South, North or West from Penzance and you're at sea.   The metrics of Penzance are bound to differ from the metrics of most other towns due to its geographic location ... how does it compare to Cambeltown? And there links to tell us, because I'm sure that someone has worked it out - Penzance council for starters (And are we going off topic here?   Still interesting, though ... )


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: Lee on March 10, 2012, 17:09:46
From the Western Morning News: (http://www.thisisdevon.co.uk/story-15481429-detail/story.html)

Quote from: Western Morning News
Green light for new ^10m transport hub

Plans to create a new park and ride scheme at a west Cornwall railway station and 750 car parking spaces as part of a ^10 million development have been approved by councillors.

On Thursday members of Cornwall Council's strategic planning committee voted 16-5 in favour of granting planning permission at St Erth station near St Ives.

The scheme includes a park and ride service to St Ives, Penzance and Truro.

Supporters said the new "transport interchange" would reduce congestion on the roads while critics argued the scheme was too costly.

Graeme Hicks, the council's portfolio holder for transport highways and environment said the new system was a key part of the local transport plan to connect Cornwall.

He said: "The rail network in Cornwall has untapped capacity which can help us towards taking people out of their cars and reducing the growth of traffic on our roads.

"I hope that this new transport interchange will encourage people to investigate the local area and be a trigger for further local investment.

"The interchange will improve the connectivity between different transport modes and enable car-free days out for visitors whilst enabling commuters and businesses to use car-free travel for part of their journeys.

"This will help reduce congestion on the A30 through the villages of Rose-an-Grouse, Canon's Town, Cockwells and Crowlas."

Three car parks are planned to lie adjacent to the existing railway station.

A new section of road will be created through the A30 junction for cyclists and pedestrians to use.

The scheme includes improvements to the A30 junction with Station Approach, including traffic signals, along with additional lanes for turning traffic.

Councillors said this would increase the junction capacity and regulate traffic flows by reducing congestion and improve the current situation for vehicles travelling to and from St Erth village.

It is anticipated that construction will commence early next year.

Councillor Rob Nolan, who voted against the scheme said it was far too expensive.

He said: "It will cost around ^40,000 per parking space.

"This is a colossal waste of money.

"We can't ignore the fact we might be wasting money."

When Philip Mason, head of planning and regeneration, interrupted Mr Nolan to remind him to "put cost out of his mind" and leave it to another committee to decide, the councillor replied: "You cannot ignore cost."

I visited the site at St Erth today, along with visits to Lelant Saltings, Carbis Bay and St Ives stations. Good to see a fair few people about wherever I went, with the 2-coach Class 150 unit well-loaded.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: chrisoates on March 10, 2012, 22:31:44

I visited the site at St Erth today, along with visits to Lelant Saltings, Carbis Bay and St Ives stations. Good to see a fair few people about wherever I went, with the 2-coach Class 150 unit well-loaded.

Going to be interesting to see how the extended park & ride works out.
In winter the service is 1x153, March to high season is 1x150, high season is 2x150 .
In summer the 2x150 are PACKED and despite ticket facilities at the Saltings car park and two Conductors St Ives is also barriered to enable revenue collection.
The service is maxed out at 2tph and even with a rumoured extra 153 I wonder if all these potential extra visitors are going to actually get to St Ives.
Would be great if they did as access and parking in St Ives is woeful - the rail link puts you right at a beach and very close to the town centre.

Would also help while there is cash sloshing around - a disabled ramp from St Ives station to the path below the station leading to the town  - the Station has a disabled toilet which I've never seen used as it's sort of isolated by steps and steep hills.

Also a huge sign to the path - 'town & beaches this way'...so many people head out via the car park. 
 


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: Andrew1939 from West Oxon on March 12, 2012, 17:28:08
When were the barriers installed at St. Ives Station? I was there on holiday last June and there were no barriers there then.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: chrisoates on March 12, 2012, 19:04:21
When were the barriers installed at St. Ives Station? I was there on holiday last June and there were no barriers there then.

Portable crush barrier type of thing.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 02, 2013, 21:23:30
From The Cornishman (http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/St-Erth-Railway-Station-reaches-final/story-20249553-detail/story.html):

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St Erth Railway Station reaches final of international awards

Staff at St Erth Railway Station have been celebrating after reaching the finals of an international competition.

The railway station reached the top six of of the International Station Awards of the Year 2013 which rate stations based on their appearance, the facilities available, transport links and customer focus.

(http://www.cornishman.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276350/Article/images/20249553/5573747.jpg)
St Erth Railway Station reaches final of international awards

Judges from different railway companies looked at the station, which is managed by First Great Western (FGW), over a two month period.

Sara Rogers, station manager, represented St Erth at the awards in Cardiff. She said: ^We did so well to achieve a place in the finals, but of course I am sad that we didn^t achieve the top prize. Especially after the hard work that was put in to show the judges how good our passengers feel about St Erth Station.^

First place went to Aylesbury Vale Parkway, which was named Best Small Station of the Year.

Despite not taking home an award, Jeremy Joslin, director of the Sterling Group who created and run the First Class Buffet on the Station, was delighted with the result.

^We have a great relationship with First^s staff from Sara to the regular duty station managers Ray and Peter and including the train crews who rest over at the station,^ said Mr Joslin. ^We always help each other to make the passengers feel welcome and a little less worried about their long journeys. This international recognition is a great boost to the buffet and to the hard work done by our FGW staff.^


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: John R on April 14, 2014, 22:22:42
Whatever happened to this scheme. Is it ever going to happen?


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: FarWestJohn on August 27, 2014, 16:16:06
I have just heard that Cornwall Council has rejected the idea of demolishing the listed footbridge and installing lift towers.
At present disabled passengers cannot cross the line at St.Erth from the down platform to the exit. There is a dispensation that you can travel to Penzance and get a train back.

One idea aired for the lifts not being required is that all down trains crossover to the Up platform and then back to the Down again for the onward trip to Penzance!! This would be great for line capacity and virtually turn St.Erth into a single line.

It will be interesting to see what the plans will be in the future with the Park and ride and the through trains from St.Ives to Penzance.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: LiskeardRich on August 27, 2014, 17:04:12
There is a dispensation that you can travel to Penzance and get a train back.

Is there always a connection to get someone back? Would a taxi option be used where no connection back.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: trainbuff on August 27, 2014, 17:45:08
The last train back is often the Crosscountry service after the sleeper at 22.08 weekdays. If arriving after that a taxi is essential.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: brompton rail on August 27, 2014, 18:43:26
Would sighted disabled (probably wheel chair users) be better getting of at Hayle if they are not continuing by train. I assume the barrow crossing is still in use. Otherwise Penzance is the only option.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: LiskeardRich on August 27, 2014, 18:46:22
Would sighted disabled (probably wheel chair users) be better getting of at Hayle if they are not continuing by train. I assume the barrow crossing is still in use. Otherwise Penzance is the only option.

Barrow Crossing is closed at Hayle - There is a fully wheelchair friendly underpass in place now.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 10, 2017, 21:56:14
From Railway Gazette (http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/single-view/view/uk-railway-news-round-up-14.html):

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Cornwall County Council has awarded Wills Bros Civil Engineering a £4∙6m contract to design and build a multi-modal hub at St Erth station. The scope includes the provision of 440 new car parking spaces, ramped pedestrian access from the south car park to platform level, improvements to the station forecourt and amendments to the existing junction on the A30 trunk road.



Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: marky7890 on June 10, 2017, 23:26:59
I went to St Erth a couple of weeks ago (to change for the St Ives train) and a lot of work was going on in the carpark, trees have been cleared on the A30 side of the carpark too, most of the station building was fenced off apart from the shop next to the small siding platform. I imagine they must be carrying out work to the interior of the building.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: Gordon the Blue Engine on June 11, 2017, 16:46:00
it would be good of they could provide lifts for access to/from the down platform.  The footbridge steps are steep and carrying cases up and down is not easy.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: marky7890 on June 12, 2017, 15:14:30
Network Rail want to replace the current footbridge with a new one with lifts and ramps. The Council keep refusing them planning permission. It would completely ruin the feel of the station. There is a barrow crossing the northern end of the platforms, although I'm not sure if this gets used.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: Gordon the Blue Engine on June 12, 2017, 15:26:54
I sympathise with NR.  St Erth station is not a museum piece, it’s there to enable people to join and leave trains in the safest and most convenient way possible. 

It’s not as if it’s in a particularly salubrious area where the character needs to be maintained – it’s next door to the tyre dump which caught fire last year. 



Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: SandTEngineer on June 12, 2017, 16:19:59
Yes, but the character of the station would be destroyed in the process.  It would be cheaper (and quicker) to build a ramp from the down platform to the underbridge just west of the platforms and use that for PRM access.  A copy of the recent solution adpoted at Hayle station.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: Gordon the Blue Engine on June 12, 2017, 16:59:10
It would be a long walk round if you’re changing for St Ives, which many if not most of passengers alighting on the down platform want to do.  Looking at Google Earth you can see that Station Approach, the road that S&TE refers to, is narrow and unlit (I accept the latter can be fixed) and that the footway is on the side away from where the ramp would come down.

It maybe cheaper to build the ramp, but in my view it would not properly address the need to provide safe and convenient access to/from the down platform for those with luggage, buggies etc and/or cannot use stairs. 

I don’t accept that maintaining the character of the station (or any other station for that matter) should trump the need to provide the standard of access which passengers can reasonably expect nowadays.  Of course the new footbridge needs to be sympathetically designed (ie unlike the hideous structures you see at Honeybourne and Charlbury etc), but retaining the existing bridge in perpetuity just because it’s a relic of the GWR is not the way to go.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: SandTEngineer on June 16, 2017, 18:15:23
Passed through St.Erth on Wednesday 14 June 2017 and captured these photographs of the start of the Car Park work (at the back of the current car park):

[Missing images to be reloaded at later date]


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: bobm on June 16, 2017, 19:48:07
Learned today that there are plans to widen the bay platform at St Erth by slewing the track to where the unused second platform line currently is.  Will ease congestion at busy times when those waiting for the St Ives train have to jostle with those getting off an incoming service.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: Cornish bobby on August 30, 2017, 18:08:05
Learned today that there are plans to widen the bay platform at St Erth by slewing the track to where the unused second platform line currently is.  Will ease congestion at busy times when those waiting for the St Ives train have to jostle with those getting off an incoming service.

I heard that the existing bay siding is to be shortened back and the disused platform on that side extended and widened. When complete this would allow trains from St Ives when arrived at St Erth, to unload on one side and load on the other.

Unrelated but I found out today that when work on the St Erth hub is complete early next summer the bus stops on the A30 by the station will be removed. All bus services will then call at the stop right outside the station meaning all buses will divert off and back on the A30 and no risking your life trying to walk across a busy trunk road.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: GBM on August 30, 2017, 19:27:56
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I heard that the existing bay siding is to be shortened back and the disused platform on that side extended and widened. When complete this would allow trains from St Ives when arrived at St Erth, to unload on one side and load on the other.

Unrelated but I found out today that when work on the St Erth hub is complete early next summer the bus stops on the A30 by the station will be removed. All bus services will then call at the stop right outside the station meaning all buses will divert off and back on the A30 and no risking your life trying to walk across a busy trunk road.

If that means busses 'diverting' to the station, then out again, even with traffic light assistance, that will add to their delays.  Joy  :( >:(




Edit note: Quote marks fixed, for clarity. CfN.


Title: Re: St Erth Station - incidents, facilities, improvements and awards (merged topic)
Post by: Cornish bobby on August 31, 2017, 12:27:14
That is the down side of buses routing via the station although the junction will be traffic light controlled. Talk is that the existing foot bridge will be modified and have lifts installed at either end to allow disabled access from the down platform and south side car park to the up side and Bay platform for St Ives.



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