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Title: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on July 26, 2009, 02:26:54
Please bear with me on this one: I just think he was a quite remarkable man.

From the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8168691.stm):
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The last British survivor of the World War I trenches, Harry Patch, has died at the age of 111.

Mr Patch was conscripted into the Army aged 18 and fought in the Battle of Passchendaele at Ypres in 1917 in which more than 70,000 British soldiers died.

He was raised in Combe Down, near Bath, and had been living at a care home in Wells, Somerset.

The Queen said she was "saddened" to hear of Mr Patch's death. "We will never forget the bravery and enormous sacrifice of his generation, which will continue to serve as an example to us all."

Prime Minister Gordon Brown said: "I had the honour of meeting Harry, and I share his family's grief at the passing of a great man. I know that the whole nation will unite today to honour the memory, and to take pride in the generation that fought the Great War. The noblest of all the generations has left us, but they will never be forgotten."

A national memorial service should be held as "a special commemoration" of the efforts of Mr Patch and "a generation of people" who fought in World War I, Mr Brown added.

The Prince of Wales said nothing could give him greater pride than paying tribute to Mr Patch. He told the BBC: "Harry was involved in numerous bouts of heavy fighting on the front line but amazingly remained unscathed for a while. Tragically one night in September 1917 when in the morass in the Ypres Salient a German shrapnel shell burst overhead badly wounding Harry and killing three of his closest friends. In spite of the comparatively short time that he served with the Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry, Harry always cherished the extraordinary camaraderie that the appalling conditions engendered in the battalion and remained loyal to the end."

Chief of the General Staff, General Sir Richard Dannatt, said: "He was the last of a generation that in youth was steadfast in its duty in the face of cruel sacrifice and we give thanks for his life - as well as those of his comrades - for upholding the same values and freedom that we continue to cherish and fight for today."

Conservative leader David Cameron said: "The passing of our last surviving WWI soldier marks the end of an era and is a reminder of the huge debt of gratitude we owe Harry and those he served alongside."

Mr Patch was born on 17 June 1898 and left school at the age of 15 to train as a plumber. He was a machine-gunner in the trenches and served as a private from June to September 1917.

Mr Patch was at the time of his death the oldest man in Europe and the third oldest man in the world, according to the Ministry of Defence.

He was married twice, first in 1919 in Hadley, Shropshire, to Ada which lasted 60 years, and then to Jean when he was 81. He had two sons with Ada, Dennis and Roy, both of whom he outlived. From 2003 he had a third partner, Doris, who lived in the same retirement home and died two years ago.

His biographer Richard Van Emden said Mr Patch "had a sparkle about him" and was "one of the most rewarding people to be with". "He was the last of that generation and the poignancy of that is almost overwhelming. He remembered all of those who died and suffered and every time he was honoured he knew it was for all of those who fought," he said.

Mr Patch's friend Lesley Ross said she felt great affection towards him. "Extremely modest, dignified gentleman, with a slightly wicked sense of humour and considerate to everybody he met. Very polite and I would sum him up as a true gentleman," she said.

The Ministry of Defence said there would be a funeral cortege through Wells followed by a service at Wells Cathedral.

The Fletcher House care home said in a statement it extended its deepest sympathies to Mr Patch's family and friends. Andrew Larpent, chief executive of Somerset Care, said Mr Patch died peacefully in his bed having been unwell for some time. "His friends and his family have been here. He just quietly slipped away at 9am this morning," he said. "It was how he would have wanted it, without having to be moved to hospitals but here, peacefully with his friends and carers."


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 05, 2013, 21:41:43
A video update (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-20903124), from the BBC:

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Harry Patch in Oxford Dictionary of National Biography

Harry Patch, the last British survivor of the trenches of World War I, is to receive an entry in the latest edition of the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.

The veteran died in 2009 in Wells, Somerset, aged 111.


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: SandTEngineer on November 06, 2015, 13:21:32
A  naming ceromony at Bristol Temple Meads today (06 November 2015): https://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisperkins/22403357777/in/photolist-A8H4Kg

Harry Patch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Patch


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: ChrisB on November 06, 2015, 14:16:10
Two more....From Rail Magazine

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTIi5PKWoAAx-VN.jpg)

and Network Rail

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTIduanWEAA5RwS.jpg)

You'd have thought thay might have touched up the end of the power car?


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: a-driver on November 06, 2015, 14:21:42
The nameplate on it really is stunning..... but strangely they've applied First Great Western branding to the power car??


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: TaplowGreen on November 06, 2015, 14:27:26
That Power car is probably a similar age to Harry Patch!


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: JayMac on November 06, 2015, 14:46:56
For those with access To Facebook here's a link to a selection of photos posted to the HST Enthusiast Group page:

https://m.facebook.com/groups/192811564180260?view=permalink&id=803890483072362


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 06, 2015, 20:21:49
I've simply moved a previous topic and merged it here, in the interests of continuity. CfN.  :)


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: ray951 on November 06, 2015, 20:52:41
  I dont want to be pedantic but isn't a class 43 power car?
naming a class 143 after a WW1 veteran would be a bit of an insult :)


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: Adelante_CCT on November 06, 2015, 21:02:21
Such as 143609 'Sir Tom Jones'


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 06, 2015, 21:09:27
My mistake: sorry!  Too many '1's in the topic heading - now corrected.  :-[


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: bobm on November 06, 2015, 21:37:46
I hadn't realised until today that Harry Patch died aged 111 years, 1 month, 1 week and 1 day - so poignant given the Armistice at the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month. 


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: grahame on November 08, 2015, 07:40:17
Limited edition model - available for sale

http://www.locomotionmodels.com/british-model-railways/oo-gauge-4mm/nrm-exclusive-editions-and-collection/hornby-fgw-class-43-172-harry-patch.htm

There's an interesting discussion this Remembrance Sunday as to what degree of commercialism is tasteful alongside the Harry Patch and indeed whole WWI rememberance business. 


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: ChrisB on November 08, 2015, 11:04:16
Interestingly, Paul Gentleman is employed by GWR in their project team. Interesting, nice guy


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: bobm on November 08, 2015, 11:33:05
Coming back from Bristol yesterday I was able to get a proper look at power car 43172.

Here it is pictured at Swindon.

(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/hstharry.jpg)


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: bobm on September 08, 2016, 10:09:06
Power car Harry Patch was on hand to help the Royal British Legion launch this year's Poppy Appeal at London Paddington this morning.

(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/legion1.jpg)

After a short service by the War Memorial on platform 1 led by Fr Henry Everett of St Mary Magdalene, Paddington and Rev Chris Newport and attended by Barbara Windsor a long time supporter of the Legion, the set for the 10:06 to Penzance led by 43172 Harry Patch drew into the platform.

(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/legion2.jpg)

The set did have 43056 The Royal British Legion on the other end earlier this week but not today.  The train had been turned though so Harry Patch was at the London end.

(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/legion3.jpg)

Some limited internal decoration too

(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/legion4.jpg)


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: bobm on September 08, 2016, 13:15:39
Seems 43056 Royal British Legion was stopped with a wheel flat - hence the replacement with an un-named power car - seen here leaving Newton Abbot (20 minutes late)

(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/legion5.jpg)


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 14, 2016, 21:45:32
Seems 43056 Royal British Legion was stopped with a wheel flat ...

An old war wound, possibly?  :P

Seriously: I commend the Royal British Legion, and honour the memory of Harry Patch.

Lest we forget.  :-X


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: bobm on September 14, 2016, 21:51:06
Totally agree Chris, which is why I made the effort to go.

...and Plymouth being your home city, been to the memorial on the Hoe to see the name of a distant relation of mine remembered on the memorial after he lied about his age and then was sunk on a ship in WW1.


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on September 24, 2017, 18:52:55
From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-devon-41362973/peace-garden-for-last-war-veteran-at-devon-school):

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Peace garden for last war veteran at Devon school

A peace garden is being officially opened in memory of the last surviving British veteran of World War One.

Harry Patch, from Somerset, died in 2009 aged 111.

Exactly 100 years ago he was badly injured, and three of his friends were killed in the Battle of Passchendaele.

As a result, he always called 22 September his personal remembrance day.

Clyst Vale Community College in Devon has created a peace garden that remembers all those who died in the war, from all sides.




Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: grahame on January 27, 2021, 15:38:12
Epitaph - uncarried spare name plate for sale  on Ebay (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Class-43-43172-Nameplate-Harry-Patch-Uncarried-Spare/114648563535) - 4 days left to go (until 31 Jan 2021). Didn't even know they made spares.


Title: Re: Class 43 power car named after WWI veteran Harry Patch, who died aged 111
Post by: a-driver on January 28, 2021, 22:20:05
Epitaph - uncarried spare name plate for sale  on Ebay (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Class-43-43172-Nameplate-Harry-Patch-Uncarried-Spare/114648563535) - 4 days left to go (until 31 Jan 2021). Didn't even know they made spares.

It’s a fake, the spacing on the lettering is slightly wrong for starters. If you go on Newton Replicas you can buy them for around £300.  There’s even a picture of it on their Facebook page.  Avoid.



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