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Title: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 08, 2008, 23:45:48
http://www.northsomersettimes.co.uk/content/nst/news/story.aspx?brand=westonmercury&category=newsNorthSomerset&tBrand=westonmercury&tCategory=znews&itemid=WeED07%20May%202008%2010%3A44%3A49%3A010

"Commuters coping with car parking chaos at Nailsea and Backwell Station may soon face charges and an even tougher fight for a spot.

North Somerset Council officer Jonathan Gall said there were four options to consider - leave the car park oversubscribed, introduce charges to put people off driving to the station, expand the car park and keep it a free service or extend it and bring in charges.

He said: "The car park currently has 112 spaces which are filled before 9am most mornings. The overflow is found in residential streets and there is also a problem with people parking at Backwell Lake."

The car park costs ^17,000 to maintain each year and an extension will lead to even higher costs."

My only query over this is: what is actually done in the present car park, that 'costs ^17,000' each year?  :o ::)


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Ollie on May 09, 2008, 00:54:24
The salary for the person who checks to see if it's full by 9am?  :D


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 09, 2008, 01:01:26
Probably best not to tell John R that: for ^17,000 each year, he could have told them, it's usually full from 8am, when he gets the 08:11!  ::) ;D


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Ollie on May 09, 2008, 01:03:52
Well if that's true 9am incorrect statement to make :D

But in all seriousness, i'm not sure, is the car park area maintained by the council?


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 09, 2008, 01:11:59
Well, it's owned by the council, rather than FGW, so the council are responsible for maintaining it.

It depends, however, what you mean by 'maintain'.  Cutting back a few bushes, sweeping up a bit of broken glass after a visit by lively teenagers on a Friday night?  I'm not convinced it's costing ^17,000.

 ::)


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: John R on May 09, 2008, 07:29:52
Good idea, I'll offer my services to the council for ^16k pa. Might as well get an auto-text set up for 0805 each day to say "It's full". (Maybe not Fridays though.)

I presume lighting will cost a bit, but other than that I'm struggling to understand what it costs. I'm not aware anyone checks up on it to check everyone's parked in a bay, because obviously people don't.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: devon_metro on May 09, 2008, 16:37:07
Probably an average considering when retarmacing occurs. Car parks cost over ^100,000 to refurbish for an area holding 100 cars or so.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: John R on June 16, 2008, 22:38:28
And now they've effectively reduced the available space by around 20% by warning people off parking outside marked bays with the threat of a ^70 fine. With season ticket sales up 33% in 2 years from Nailsea, no wonder the car park is heaving.

And the coffee cart lady has given up too. At least I don't need to avoid catching her eye as I fail again to buy a coffee from her in the morning.   


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 16, 2008, 22:47:27
Yes, that's an interesting point, John.  Who is actually going to enforce this new 'ban' on parking outside the marked bays in the station car park?  Perhaps the crew of the unattended police personnel carrier, which was parked on the double yellow lines opposite the turning bay at the station one morning last week??

 >:(


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 18, 2008, 21:30:16
Interestingly, despite the appearance of a cheery notice informing drivers that they will incur a ^70 fine if they park outside the marked bays (or park an 'unauthorised vehicle' - not defined!), I noted eighteen cars in the car park at 08:58 this morning, all 'illegally' parked.

Now, my schoolboy maths is a bit rusty, but: assuming 260 weekdays in a year, and 18 cars fined ^70 each per day - wow! that's ^327,600.  That will pay for quite a few layers of new tarmac, eh?  ;)


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: John R on June 18, 2008, 23:00:12
Yet yesterday there was only one, and the Lake Car Park was overcrowded.

I think there's a slight but obvious flaw in your argument - you wouldn't park there once you've been "done", unless you've cloned your numberplate. 


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 18, 2008, 23:17:09
Ah!  I had considered that, John!  ;D

My case is that it wouldn't be the same local drivers each day that get 'stung'!  And there are still lots of drivers from Yatton who drive and park at Nailsea - to avoid FGW's charges at Yatton station!

However, I do accept your point that, over time, North Somerset Council will see some sort of 'law of diminishing returns' on their decision to fine people for parking outside the marked bays.

However, as you also say - there's still the lake car park ... !  ;) :D ;D


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 21, 2008, 16:13:31
The story has now appeared in the local press: see http://www.thisisclevedon.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=223432&command=displayContent&sourceNode=241560&home=yes&more_nodeId1=224152&contentPK=20907456


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on July 14, 2008, 20:31:31
More controversy over commuters parking outside the station car park, due to lack of spaces: see http://www.thisisclevedon.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=223432&command=displayContent&sourceNode=224133&contentPK=21058249&folderPk=104742&pNodeId=224152


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 12, 2008, 21:13:23
Another quick update from me:

I understand that the lines around the 'authorised' parking spaces in the station car park are to be repainted (and apparently, some spaces which were not 'officially' recognised in the past, but where commuters have now established the precendent of parking there, will now be included)!

And just as an aside ... is anyone aware of any fines actually being imposed, for anyone parking outside the current 'official' bays?  (This includes the Network Rail vans that persistently park on the double yellow lines in the turning bay, by the way!)  If not, what was the point of putting up all those cheery notices about ^70 fines being imposed???  >:(


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Phil on October 13, 2008, 07:51:18
I have definitely seen a vehicle ticketed at Chippenham Station Car Park Number One for parking at the end of a row, outside of the marked bays. On more than one occasion, in fact. You're right about the Network Rail vans though: they do seem to be able to park wherever they like.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: eightf48544 on October 13, 2008, 10:22:05
I have definitely seen a vehicle ticketed at Chippenham Station Car Park Number One for parking at the end of a row, outside of the marked bays. On more than one occasion, in fact. You're right about the Network Rail vans though: they do seem to be able to park wherever they like.

I got a polite note on my car in NSE days for parking outside a marked bay in Slough West car park, the old shed site. I don't know whether they subsequently fined people. because it was a one off, as my usual commute was walking to Taplow.

However, this whole thread just illustrates another case on "non joined up government" I presumme the D(a)fT wants people to commute from Nailsea rather than driving their cars into Bristol. I also presumme that most people aren't able to catch a bus to the station due to lack of services so have to drive.

In a sensible world you would think that increasing carparking  capacity, if that's possible, and/or improving bus services integrated with the train service would be benficial.

Now this is where a tame "bean counter" could do some usuful work in working out the benefits of several hundred cars not entering Bristol compared with the cost of extra parking at Nailsea. The local council could then issue 7% 25 year bonds to fund the work. In the current climate thay would be snapped up and would probaly sell at a premimium.

Or is that a pig I've just seen flying past?



Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: TheLastMinute on November 14, 2008, 12:22:45
Another quick update from me:

I understand that the lines around the 'authorised' parking spaces in the station car park are to be repainted (and apparently, some spaces which were not 'officially' recognised in the past, but where commuters have now established the precendent of parking there, will now be included)!

And just as an aside ... is anyone aware of any fines actually being imposed, for anyone parking outside the current 'official' bays?  (This includes the Network Rail vans that persistently park on the double yellow lines in the turning bay, by the way!)  If not, what was the point of putting up all those cheery notices about ^70 fines being imposed???  >:(

Good news! As I was waiting for the 0846 this morning, low and behold, workmen turned up to start work on the car park!  ;D

According to the notices that have gone up, they will be remarking the existing parking spaces plus converting the "redundant" vegetation and paved areas to provide some more spaces! They also plan to provide more cycle spaces.

There was also a warning on the notice that once the work is complete, no one should park outside of bay. It did seem to imply that they will start issuing tickets for illegal parking.

TLM


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: John R on November 18, 2009, 16:59:01
http://www.thewestonmercury.co.uk/content/twm/news/story.aspx?brand=Westonmercury&category=newsNorthSomerset&tBrand=westonmercury&tCategory=znews&itemid=WeED17+Nov+2009+16%3A29%3A39%3A897

There's no doubt that the existing car park is inadequate, but adding 200 spaces to the existing 112 seems a bit like overkill to me. If they all get used that'll put some pressure on the 0828.

^700k for 200 spaces is ^3500 per space. So expect to see charges introduced to cover the cost (which will reduce demand of course, so the spaces may not be required after all). 


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: clevedonian on November 18, 2009, 18:15:17
about time aswell, if it stays free i am sure a lot of people will travel from Yatton to park there. As you say though they will need to pay for it!


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Mookiemoo on August 07, 2010, 01:04:15

On the other hand: we could then perhaps re-brand our station as Portishead Parkway?  ::)

Especially when after about 10 am your choice is block te pick up road or risk the disabled space

:-)



Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 21, 2011, 21:13:57
I understand that car parking charges at Nailsea & Backwell are now actually being applied - as explained on the North Somerset Council notices:

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Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Mookiemoo on January 23, 2011, 22:08:52
Yes they are - and I got done last week - as I've posted here before - I did park in the disabled bays however:

If you look at what is listed as the possible fines - not parking in a bay and parking a prohibted vehicle - mine was neither of these

No where does it state that parking in a space with a yellow symbol on it is an offence .  In fact, my ticket has hand written offence written on it as they can't find anything on the form to tick!  The hand writing says "parking in a disabled bay without a blue badge" - but if you read the notice, where does it say that is an offence

So, whether I should have been parked there or not, I will be appealing it since I don't think legally they have a leg to stand on




Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Brucey on January 24, 2011, 08:21:32
I believe parking in a council run disabled space is an offence under the Road Traffic Regulations 1984, sections 35(1) and 35A.  Have a read of 35(1) as you may be able to "get out" of the ticket this way.

Note this doesn't apply to private car parks.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: JayMac on January 24, 2011, 09:29:26
Such an offence would need to be specified in the relevant Off Street Parking Order drawn up by the Council. I can't see anything in the most recent published order that specifies an excess charge for parking in a disabled bay when not entitled. I believe also that the Council has to make users of the car park aware of all the possible contraventions they can be 'charged' for. So whilst it may be morally questionable, I think legally, Mookiemoo has a defence against the Penalty Charge Notice.

Station Road, Nailsea is listed on the most recent Order as are the offences you can be excess charged for. Parking in a disabled bay when not entitled is not one of the offences listed.

http://www.n-somerset.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/D9AC2318-7FA9-4854-AFB8-C58CD92A4578/0/VariationToCarParkingOrder_0111.pdf

As always..... IANAL.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: devon_metro on January 24, 2011, 12:09:38
I wouldn't appeal purely out of shame of parking in a Disabled bay with no need to do so  ::)


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 25, 2012, 20:13:37
From the Somerset Post (http://www.thisissomerset.co.uk/Railway-station-set-introduce-car-parking-charges/story-15910881-detail/story.html):

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Railway station set to introduce car parking charges

Commuters using Nailsea and Backwell railway station will soon have to pay ^1.50 a day to park their cars to catch the train.

North Somerset Council is planning to spend ^700,000 on expanding the car park at Station Road, which is currently free, by a further 183 spaces.

The scheme will see the number of parking spaces available increase from 120 to 303, and changed to pay and display.

The introduction of parking fees will fund the ^700,000 scheme and cover operating costs.

The land has already been purchased by the district council and work could start this year to tie-in with ^1million Department of Transport improvements to the platform access ramps.

Season tickets will be offered for regular travellers at ^300 per year or ^90 per quarter with off-peak travellers ^ after 10am and at weekends ^ paying ^1.

Money for the capital costs will be borrowed and paid back over 25 years at ^57,178 per year.

The council is predicting 55 per cent car park occupancy in the first year rising to an average of 61 per cent during the loan period.

The report to the executive said: ^An appropriate level of charge may help encourage those living nearby to walk or cycle and those living further away to car share or catch the bus. The availability of spaces would then improve for other users and make the rail option more attractive.^

Work on the car park expansion is expected to be completed by 2015.

Nailsea Town Council, First Great Western and local environmental groups are in favour of the scheme.

Currently the car park is full by 7.30am on weekdays, deterring people from using the train for their regular commute to work as well as leaving no space for travellers who wish to travel off peak.

The lack of car parking also results in many people parking in adjoining residential streets and in the nearby lake car park.

Nailsea Town Council clerk Ian Morrell said: ^The town council has long supported the extension of the car park at the station. However, there have been no discussions about charges and any implementation of charges at the station car park should be completely unconnected any proposed at the town centre which we continue to strongly oppose.^

North Somerset has been considering introducing fees at all council-owned car parks in Clevedon, Nailsea and Portishead ^ a move strongly resisted by local businesses.

The cash-strapped authority has already given approval to a scheme to install parking meters on 28 streets in the Weston-super-Mare centre where people will have to pay ^1.20 an hour six days a week to park.

It will cost 40 pence for 20 minutes and then 20 pence for each subsequent ten minute period ^ with a maximum two-hour stay.

Council chiefs say the move to introduce the parking meters is necessary to regulate parking in the town and follows concerns from traders, shoppers and residents that motorists are flouting existing parking restrictions by leaving cars in timed bays for longer than they are allowed.

The authority is now looking at expanding the use of on-street parking metres to other towns across the district.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: TonyK on April 25, 2012, 20:51:23
Fair enough, I suppose. Not too dear, and being used to pay for the extra spaces.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: devon_metro on April 26, 2012, 04:40:04
I don't think i've ever paid to park in Weston-super-mud. Tesco seems happy to allow me to park!

Still, cheap parking at Nailsea, similar to Yatton. Only seems fair!


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 09, 2012, 20:22:31
From the Nailsea People (http://www.nailseapeople.co.uk/Rail-commuters-charged-parking-Backwell-roads/story-17277322-detail/story.html):

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Rail commuters could be charged for parking in Backwell side roads

Backwell parish councillors want commuters charged for clogging up village roads.

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Train travellers warned not to leave their cars in Backwell side roads

The councilors are calling for parking restrictions to be introduced on residential roads around Nailsea and Backwell railway station ahead of the introduction of a new charging scheme.

North Somerset Council is planning to spend ^700,000 on expanding Nailsea and Backwell station car park by a further 183 spaces. But there is a price to pay as although the scheme will see the number of parking spaces increase from 120 to 303 they will all become pay and display.

The introduction of parking fees will fund the scheme and cover operating costs. But parish councillors can't wait and are calling on highways chiefs to look at introducing restrictions on nearby roads now.

They say roads including Moor Lane, Waverley Road and Amberlands Close are already regularly gridlocked by travellers leaving their cars to catch the train and the problem will only get worse when people have to pay to park.

Parish leaders are calling for a meeting with the district council highways department  to look at what measures could be introduced to stop on street parking.

Backwell Parish Council chairman Bob Taylor said: "We already have a problem with parking on residential roads around the station and this will only get worse when the charges are introduced. People already drive from Yatton to avoid the parking charges there and when they find the car park in Backwell is full, they just use the side roads.

"Motorists park right up to the junctions, which is very dangerous and often these residential roads are turned into single lane carriageways as a result. It is an accident waiting to happen. The issue needs to be looked at now ahead of the charges being introduced."

A number of measures have already been suggested, including the introduction of a residents' parking scheme on the affected roads and new road markings warning people not to park,

Mr Taylor added: "We could not go as far as considering double yellow lines on these roads because ultimately someone would have to enforce them, North Somerset initially said it would monitor the situation when the work is done to the station car park. But the surrounding roads are already chock a block with cars and measures need to be put in place now."

The land for the car park expansion has already been purchased by the district council and work is due to start next year.

Season tickets will be offered for regular travellers at ^300 per year or ^90 per quarter with off-peak travellers - after 10am and at weekends - paying ^1. People parking before 10am will have to pay ^1.50 a day.

Money for the capital costs will be borrowed and paid back over 25 years at ^57,178 per year.

Work on the car park expansion is expected to be completed by 2015.

Currently the car park is full by 7.30am on weekdays, deterring people from using the train for their regular commute to work as well as leaving no space for travellers who wish to travel off peak.   

Many commuters have returned to their vehicles are the end of the day to find residents have left rude notes under the windscreen wipers suggesting they park eslewhere.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: TonyK on November 19, 2012, 18:59:28
So ^6 a week, or throw a few rude notes into the nearest garden. Hmm.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 11, 2013, 18:28:59
From the North Somerset Times (http://www.northsomersettimes.co.uk/news/pay_to_park_for_picking_up_passengers_1_2186567):

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Pay to park for picking up passengers

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People dropping friends and relatives off to catch a train at Nailsea and Backwell Station will have to pay even if they use the car park for less than 20 minutes.

North Somerset Council has decided to implement a 20p charge for people who use the car park to pick up and drop off passengers, despite opposition from Nailsea Town Council.

Town council clerk, Ian Morrell, said: ^Charging people for less than 20 minutes is inconsistent with what^s done elsewhere in the district and in Bristol. We just think it^s unenforceable if people choose to flout it. Why bother trying to charge people who are just dropping their friends or relatives off. Giving people 20 minutes of free parking is not going to cost the council a lot of money. The real target market is charging people using the car park and then travelling by train.^

Nailsea Town Council objected to the proposal during North Somerset Council^s consultation on the new off-street parking order, which will see the same charges added to Worle Parkway station in Weston.

Despite its objection, the council received a reply stating that the authority will be going ahead with the charges, which will be implemented when the car park extension is completed in August.

Commuters will be charged ^1.50 to use the car park for 24 hours, or ^1 off-peak. Travellers will also be able to park at the facility throughout the weekend for ^2. A seven-day ticket is priced at ^6 and commuters will also be able to buy permits at a price of ^200 for 12 months, ^110 for six months and ^60 for three months.

Once work has been completed the car park in Station Road will be renamed Nailsea and Backwell Station Car Park.

A couple of points on that article from me, if I may:

- Commendable use of a particularly relevant picture to illustrate the article  ;D

- Please don't tell me they spent any money at all on 'consultants' to dream up that new name ...  :o


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: devon_metro on May 11, 2013, 19:55:10
Presumably they will have barriers which require a ticket then? Otherwise why would anybody in their right mind pay 20p if they are merely stopping to pick somebody up! Worle doesn't have barriers so same question...


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 11, 2013, 20:17:23
At Nailsea & Backwell Station, the turning bay on the public highway has double yellow lines throughout: that is where First Great Western staff park their vehicles, and that is where those picking up passengers will continue to 'wait', I suspect.

I really cannot see that even North Somerset Council will actually send someone to collect the occasional 20p from those waiting in cars at the station for a passenger on a slightly delayed First Great Western train service to arrive ...  ::)


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Bristolboy on May 11, 2013, 22:48:59
Maybe they will do like Glasgow airport and have automatic cameras which catch anyone dropping off without paying a fare. They would probably make more out of fines than actual payment (20p is hardly much).


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 27, 2013, 12:16:19
From The Post (Bristol) (http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/story-19102520-detail/story.html?#axzz2URUCYX7d):

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Charge for drivers dropping off at Nailsea railway station under fire

Council chiefs in Nailsea have criticised plans to charge people 20 pence to drop off and collect passengers using the town's railway station.

North Somerset Council is to press ahead with plans to introduce a 20 pence charge for people using Nailsea and Backwell railway station car park for up to 20 minutes to collect or drop off passengers.

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The car park at Nailsea and Backwell railway station

The move comes despite Nailsea Town Council objecting to the charge, saying it would be "unenforceable".

The parking charges will come into force following the completion of a ^700,000 expansion of the station car park to provide a further 183 spaces.
 
People who currently use the car park can do so for free.

A planning application for the expansion is due to be submitted shortly and work is expected to start in the autumn and take three months to complete.

Nailsea Town Council clerk Ian Morrell said other stations ^ including Temple Meads in Bristol ^ had designated drop off and collection points. He said: "The town council raised its objections to the 20 pence charge during the consultation. Councillors felt this charge would be unenforceable and although it is not a lot of money it is also the hassle factor for people and could force motorists into the side roads or to park at Backwell Lake. If people decide they are not going to pay how, realistically, is the council going to enforce it?"

He added: "It's not as if there will be someone there checking all the time and it raises questions over the credibility of introducing parking charges at the station. Councillors felt that a 20 pence charge was not critical to the business case of charging at the car park. The real income will come from those people parking at the station all day. At a time when people are being encouraged to use public transport, we feel this small charge could be a source of contention."

The expansion will see the number of parking spaces available increase from 120 to 303 which will be changed to pay and display spaces. The introduction of parking fees will fund the ^700,000 scheme and cover operating costs.

Councillors in Backwell have already raised concerns that charging will force travellers to park on residential roads in the village. They say roads including Moor Lane, Waverley Road and Amberlands Close are already regularly grid-locked by commuters leaving their cars to catch the train and the problem will only get worse when people have to pay to park.

Details of the charges to be implemented at the station have already been agreed. Season tickets will be offered for regular travellers at ^300 per year or ^90 per quarter with off-peak travellers ^ after 10am and at weekends ^ paying ^1. People parking before 10am will have to pay ^1.50 a day.

Currently the car park is full by 7.30am on weekdays, deterring people from using the train for their regular commute to work as well as leaving no space for travellers who wish to travel off peak.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: alan_s on August 06, 2013, 18:36:52
Evening all, can anyone advise whether Nailsea/Backwell car park is still free at the moment, or have they started charging? 

Also I assume I am likely to find a space on Sunday morning, particuarly if they are charging!!

Cheers
Alan


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Andrew1939 from West Oxon on August 06, 2013, 19:29:09
Nailsea and Backwelll get their parking cheap.
The new car park at Hanborough costs ^3.00 a day and this is cheaper than other Cotswold Line stations such as Charlbury and Kingham.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: alan_s on August 06, 2013, 21:53:10
Nailsea and Backwelll get their parking cheap.
The new car park at Hanborough costs ^3.00 a day and this is cheaper than other Cotswold Line stations such as Charlbury and Kingham.

So, are you saying the charges are in place now ?  What is the charge?


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: John R on August 06, 2013, 22:15:41
Still no charge at Nailsea. And you will have no problem at the weekend.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: alan_s on August 06, 2013, 22:49:43
Great, thanks.

Alan


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Andrew1939 from West Oxon on August 08, 2013, 09:38:19
In response to the Alan_S comment, the charges at Hanborough station for parking were introduced on 22 July and are as follows:

Tariffs
Monday - Friday before 10am: ^3.00
Monday - Friday after 10am: ^1.80
Saturday: ^1.80
Sunday: FREE

Hanborough now has amongst the biggest number of parking spaces on the Cotswold line with plenty of space for around 100 or so car borne rail users to come to the station.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: TheLastMinute on August 16, 2013, 23:22:37
Planning application for the car park has been submitted to North Somerset Council by, umm, North Somerset Council. Details here....

http://wam.n-somerset.gov.uk/MULTIWAM/showCaseFile.do?action=show&appType=Planning&appNumber=13/P/1446/RG3

Cheers,
TLM


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 02, 2014, 14:40:37
Work on extending the car park is under way (and under water, in some parts):

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Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on February 19, 2014, 16:05:46
An update on work in progress on the car park:

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Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 22, 2014, 01:12:54
A further update on progress, from your local reporter:

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Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Andrew1939 from West Oxon on March 22, 2014, 17:51:08
If it is as successful as Hanborough's new car park is it will do well. At midday last Thursday week there were 158 cars in the new car park with an official capacity of 191.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 30, 2014, 20:39:27
Another update on progress, as at today:

(http://i.imgur.com/ho9NHBA.jpg?1) (http://i.imgur.com/abwtZEw.jpg?1)


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: John R on April 30, 2014, 21:00:36
At a cursory glance yesterday (0740), there were already more cars in the new opened section than the total capacity of the old (currently out of use) park. Though how many of these are the workmen's cards I'm not sure.  Though we're still BC (before charging) of course.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 07, 2014, 20:55:47
Work is proceeding apace:

(http://i.imgur.com/4yFlsLM.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/lbmq80g.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/cJkGt7L.jpg?1)

That will be for the final resurfacing, line marking and landscaping, apparently?


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: John R on June 16, 2014, 15:02:24
So, here's the impact of introducing charging:-

Before expansion: 100 places. Usually fulll by 7.40am.

After expansion pre charging: 300 places, between 170 and 190 taken by lunchtime.

After expansion, third week of charging.  300 places, 113 cars (excluding the attendant's van checking cars).

The good news is that anybody who wants a space now can have one, but what has happened to the other 70ish cars? I've overhead a couple of commuters discuss and say that they now park in the side roads, so the only effect appears to have been a redistribution of who parks in the side roads from being based on time of arrival to inclination to pay. 


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: trainer on June 17, 2014, 14:24:09
May I ask what they're charging Chris?  I believe some people drove to Nailsea and Backwell from Yatton (or in preference to) when charging was introduced there, but they may now feel it not worth the extra daily mileage and start from the station nearer to them.  Yatton has been quite tight for parkable space sometimes recently, especially after wet periods when deep pot holes become large ponds.  The side roads have been subject to the same issues since charging came in.

For the record and comparison, at Yatton the Daily Rate is ^2:30 falling to ^1:40 after 10am.  A nice new surface would be very acceptable.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: John R on June 17, 2014, 19:41:21
Charge is ^1.50 before 1000 and ^1.00 thereafter. I agree that some passengers displaced from Yatton may now have returned there, although the train fare + car parking is still considerably cheaper from Nailsea. 

By the way, in my original post I forgot to acknowledge Chris from Nailsea's help in compiling the pre-charging figures.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: trainer on June 17, 2014, 22:06:02
And I forgot to acknowledge you, John R, in my post: apologies and thanks for the info.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on June 18, 2014, 17:52:51
... I forgot to acknowledge Chris from Nailsea's help in compiling the pre-charging figures.

No worries.  ;)


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: John R on November 19, 2014, 22:28:49
So, here's the impact of introducing charging:-

Before expansion: 100 places. Usually fulll by 7.40am.

After expansion pre charging: 300 places, between 170 and 190 taken by lunchtime.

After expansion, third week of charging.  300 places, 113 cars (excluding the attendant's van checking cars).

The good news is that anybody who wants a space now can have one, but what has happened to the other 70ish cars? I've overhead a couple of commuters discuss and say that they now park in the side roads, so the only effect appears to have been a redistribution of who parks in the side roads from being based on time of arrival to inclination to pay. 


An update, I've been able to count a couple of times recently and the number of cars has risen to around 190. So it would appear as though people are coming round to the idea of paying.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 20, 2014, 17:26:00
... and, just as an aside, I've noted the presence of an attendant checking the site on a Saturday and a Sunday recently ...  :o


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Andrew1939 from West Oxon on November 21, 2014, 09:56:51
At Hanborough our new 191 space car park opened just over a year ago (July 2013). Use has expanded steadily in the 16 months since despite a ^3.00 a day parking charge. I monitor use regularly and last month counted 187 vehicles parked there at around midday so it is now virtually used to capacity and there are talks about a further increase in capacity as A40 road congestion steadily increases. However this car park has reduced the illegal on road parking in the area as the planning consent required NR to pay the county council as highway authority for the costs of introducing parking restrictions on the roads around the station. This should have happened at Nailsea and Backwell station but it would appear from this thread that no highway parking restrictions have been introduced.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 21, 2014, 22:31:47
No, there have been no new parking restrictions imposed on any of the roads around Nailsea & Backwell station car park.

In Station Close, the existing double yellow lines were merely repainted, at the conclusion of the construction work, I think.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: John R on December 02, 2015, 21:10:20
So, here's the impact of introducing charging:-

Before expansion: 100 places. Usually fulll by 7.40am.

After expansion pre charging: 300 places, between 170 and 190 taken by lunchtime.

After expansion, third week of charging.  300 places, 113 cars (excluding the attendant's van checking cars).

The good news is that anybody who wants a space now can have one, but what has happened to the other 70ish cars? I've overhead a couple of commuters discuss and say that they now park in the side roads, so the only effect appears to have been a redistribution of who parks in the side roads from being based on time of arrival to inclination to pay. 


An update, I've been able to count a couple of times recently and the number of cars has risen to around 190. So it would appear as though people are coming round to the idea of paying.

And one year on, I counted 245 cars at lunchtime today.  Only another year and it will be full and time to add another deck...


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: drakehouse on December 17, 2019, 14:04:21
Four years on, it looks as though additional capacity is now required. Prior to the Christmas slowdown in the last week or so, the car park has been pretty much full by 08.30.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: grahame on December 17, 2019, 14:14:27
Four years on, it looks as though additional capacity is now required. Prior to the Christmas slowdown in the last week or so, the car park has been pretty much full by 08.30.

Welcome to the forum, DrakeHouse.    We have a number of members (and lurkers too!) from Nailsea on the forum, and I'm sure they'll be able to give you an update on the specific parking issues there - as well as other improvements which have been hindered by the station's location up on the embankment.

On car parking in general, GWR have been relatively innovative in getting it increased, but as theirs is only a franchise for a limited period and car park investment is for the longer term, arrangements need to be in place to have the car parking investment back to them should they no longer be the organisation leasing the station and running the trains. And that's a particularly hot issue at the moment, with no announcement yet as to who'll be running the trains from 1st April next year, and GWR's parent company looking for short term returns across many of its divisions even at the expense of longer term development.


Title: Re: Car parking at Nailsea & Backwell station
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 12, 2020, 21:31:44
Indeed, welcome to the Coffee Shop forum, drakehouse.  ;)

It's been rather spooky, driving past the station car park at Nailsea & Backwell during the day in the past couple of weeks, seeing it absolutely deserted.  There have still been a few cars parked in adjoining residential side streets, which could be assumed to be rail users avoiding the charges for the official car park, but it's still a remarkable change from what was considered 'normal' only a few months ago.




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