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Title: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: Lee on December 11, 2009, 10:25:13
Apologies if we've already covered this somewhere, but the following proposals are getting a fair bit of press, and I'd be interested to know what forum members think of them - http://windsorlink.co.uk/default.aspx


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: JayMac on December 11, 2009, 12:13:26
Interesting, but far far better if somebody bothered to proof-read the website. It's full of spelling mistakes or typographical errors. Would rather put me off if I were a potential investor.....


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on December 11, 2009, 19:18:03
will someone please tell them about the gmpte funded link from south manchester to salford built in the 80's


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: Electric train on December 11, 2009, 19:33:32
Wishful thinking is the best I can come up with, the Bourne End High Wycombe bit is iffy at best due to the (shortsighted) development on the old alignment although there are some proposals already, a tunnel under Windsor I think the owner of the little house on the hill might have something to say about that.   


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: paul7575 on January 09, 2010, 13:42:25
The local press aren't much interested in this, it would seem:

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Railway plan faces new criticism
 
THE man behind a grand plan to build a new train station and business centre in Windsor and Chalvey has still not received any formal support from local authorities.

http://www.windsorobserver.co.uk/news/roundup/articles/2010/01/08/44074-railway-plan-faces-new-criticism-/ (http://www.windsorobserver.co.uk/news/roundup/articles/2010/01/08/44074-railway-plan-faces-new-criticism-/)

Paul


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: Btline on January 09, 2010, 15:16:17
It's not going to happen for many reasons (money, trackbeds blocked etc)

But the big boo-boo is that none of the "new" services serve London. So they won't be used!


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: Electric train on January 09, 2010, 15:33:09
Had not realised that part of his scheme was to lower the track bed in Datchet, for those who do not know the topography of Datchet the station is really only a few feet above river level the ground is likely to be gravel therefore battling with the water table will be difficult; the Windsor / Stains service is quite busy so what are all those existing passengers going to do for the 2 years it will take to construct the new tunnels he is just pandering to the car drivers who moan about waiting at the 2 level crossings.

Trying to link the 2 Windsor lines with a tunnel  ;D :'( ;D :'( ;D 


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: eightf48544 on February 05, 2010, 11:09:17
We discussed thiss proposal at the Slough and Windsor Railway Society meeting last Friday with Christian  Wolmar.

It was generally agreed that Linging the GW and SR lines in Windsor was  pie in the sky for several reasons. Not least of which is Electric trains little house on the hill. The map on teh web site shows a large U to get round this obsticle.

Further linking the two lines doesn't really gve many more journey oportunities. The main problem being is that the Windsor doesn't haven't direct services onto the SW main line. Thus you would still have to change if you wanted to go Slough to Portsmouth it would still probably be quicker to go via London or maybe Reading.

The only bit that would form a really useful link is Bourne End High Wycombe, which as Electric train says is iffy. However, if it were to be reinstated and East West  reinstatement gets the go ahead then it forms an important North South link in Bucks all the major towns Slough (in Bucks until 1974) Maidenhead, High Wycombe Ayesbury Bletchley Milton Keynes, with onward connections at Milton Keynes and Bedford.

Just a thought they knocked down 14,000 houses when St Pancras was built and demolished a whole road in Walthamstow/Leyton to put in the Motorway.

So a few odd building between Bourne End and Wycombe don't really count. 


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: paul7575 on April 09, 2013, 13:19:33
Is this guy not just flogging a dead horse?  The local press article seems to be implying that any day now NR are finally going to agree that his plans are go.  Personally I just don't see it happening at all.

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Royal Borough councillor and entrepreneur George Bathurst has been planning the Windsor Link Railway (WLR), to link the two Windsor stations by tunnel, since 2009.

The decision has been the subject of a series of delays,  ??? but Cllr Bathurst now hopes to be given the green light in May, with a meeting with Network Rail scheduled for the last week of April.

Cllr Bathurst said: "It's slipped back and been delayed a few times, but it's in progress. I had a chat with them today (Wednesday) and I should know in May what the decision is."

http://www.windsorobserver.co.uk/news/roundup/articles/2013/04/08/88225-councillor-hopes-for-end-to-station-link-saga-and-praises-survey-results/

Paul


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: johoare on April 09, 2013, 14:05:46
I can't see how that would work? Windsor and Eton Central is lot higher up than Windsor and Eton Riverside..As is the line coming into Windsor and Eton Central as it goes across the river..


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: paul7575 on April 09, 2013, 14:12:30
I suspect that aspect (linking the two stationss) is an error, I'm pretty sure from earlier discussions his plan is just to link the two routes, and the existing Central platform would almost certainly close. But even then there's no easy solution to the height difference, once you start looking at curvatures and gradients - assuming you use the existing river bridge on the Slough branch...

Engineering design by using a coloured pencil on a route map, as someone once said...

Paul 


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: swrural on April 09, 2013, 16:09:27
Have you seen this link?

http://windsorlink.co.uk/

Any comment?

Edit
This is the relevant paragraph:

"To correct this, phase 1 of the Windsor Link Railway proposes a new tunnel to connect the two lines. Connecting these had been proposed before but failed to resolve the problem of the two existing stations being at such different levels. The Windsor Link Railway resolves this by ignoring the two existing stations and proposing a new station in between the two with a tunnel connecting them. As the two lines enter the town at similar levels this results in less steep gradients than on the existing lines. Also, by proposing a cut-n-cover tunnel under an existing road, construction time and cost are minimised, as is the environmental impact. This new tunnel is shown in red in the phase 1 circle on the above map. This is the tunnel in Windsor (shown in red in the phase 1 circle). For aerial photos on this route through Windsor, have a look at the Windsor page."


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: paul7575 on April 09, 2013, 16:29:16
Yes, but I think the whole plan is completely irrational.  People want direct - the HLOS proposal for WRAtH is a bit non specific, but I'll put a few bob on NR not being interested at all in a round the houses route as per this proposal. There are far easier solutions, straight out from T5 and take a right, connecting with a westwards curve to the GWML - and they don't require a cut and cover underground station in Windsor...

I also see he suddenly throws into the mix a 20 minute reduction in journey time to Waterloo - how the heck does that work then?

Paul


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: eightf48544 on April 09, 2013, 16:48:19
Knowing Windsor quite well the route between the two lines is probably just about feasible. The curve off the Slough line after the bridge would be quite sharp as shown on the map of Phase one almost 180. Then apart from the fact you are close to river (probably require continuous pumpoing during construction) it would be possible to build a cut and cover line to meet end on with the Datchet line. See the alingment. Building it would cause massive disruption to the coach park and the road to Datchet. The curves and gradients could  be less than some on East London link at Shorditch or for gradient Farringdon to Blackfriars on Thameslink but not by much.

As far as I could see on their map there was no sign of where the station would be. I presumme that it would be like Crossrail Paddington next to and a lower level than the existing SWT station.

In my view re-instating Bourne to High Wycombe would take priority, over this link, but as we are squeamish about knocking down buildings to build railway lines (for roads it's OK) it's unlikely to happen.It would also require long stretches of double track to cater for 4tph in each direction, this would also apply to the open section between Maidenhead and Bourne End as well. There's also the level crossings in Bourne End and Loudwater to consider. So I don't think there's much chance.

But probably greater than the Winsor Link.


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: Electric train on April 09, 2013, 19:28:54
I am sure that NR will GRIP http://www.networkrail.co.uk/aspx/4171.aspx (http://www.networkrail.co.uk/aspx/4171.aspx) George Bathurst's plans very firmly .........

............  to death  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 15, 2013, 00:31:14
From Get Surrey (http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/2132229_egham_should_have_say_over_windsor_link_railway?):

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Egham 'should have say' over Windsor Link Railway

(http://m.gmgrd.co.uk/sbres/906.$plit/C_67_article_2132229_body_articleblock_0_bodyimage.jpg?11%2F04%2F2013%2007%3A36%3A22%3A067)
Proposed routes for the Windsor Link Railway

A new privately financed rail link will not gridlock Egham^s level crossings if built, according to its boss.

George Bathurst, managing director of the Windsor Link Railway (WLR), hopes support for its proposals in Windsor will be echoed in Runnymede.

The scheme would link Windsor with Heathrow Airport via a new line through Wraysbury, or alternatively via Staines on the route championed by BAA^s now defunct and opposed Airtrack scheme.

If built, the project aims to expand to the Reading line, which passes through Egham before diverting at Staines on the new line, meaning more services across Egham^s four level crossings.

Campaigners strongly objected to Airtrack, fearing the extra services would cause level crossing barriers to be down so long it would gridlock the town, discouraging businesses and shoppers. Egham Chamber of Commerce led the protests against the project, which was ditched two years ago.

Chairman Mark Adams said of the WLR: ^The Chamber of Commerce broadly welcomes plans to improve the railway network as a means to dealing with transport problems and providing better connectivity and services. However, as was the case with the Airtrack scheme, we would not support a scheme that does not tackle other related parts of the transport network at the same time, particularly in relation to level crossings and the significant impact of increased barrier downtimes on the local population and economy.^

Mr Bathurst said: ^The railways were built when the South East was mostly rural, and while many towns in the region have relatively easy links to the capital, orbital connections remain difficult. The WLR will not only tackle these historic problems but will also provide much needed jobs and growth.^

Results from an online survey running since March 3 show 95% of 237 respondents in Windsor backed the plan. Yet, anti-Airtrack petitioner Richard Smith, of Wavendene Avenue, Egham, felt if the rail link would affect wider communities, they should be included in the survey. He added: ^If it is going to provide as much traffic as the Airtrack scheme it is not going to be good for the Egham area, that^s for sure. We suffer enough with the crossings as it is, and certainly an increase in traffic will cause us problems ^ we^ll be back to the same situation we were in a couple of years ago and we would ask for the same investment we asked for then ^ a road tunnel.^

WLR said the Department for Transport confirmed the plans satisfy government specifications for a westerly link to Heathrow, and Mr Bathurst said WLR^s approach to Egham would be different to BAA^s.

He said: ^We would consult and design a system that works with them, we would be replacing level crossings or other mitigations to work out what people needed. It^s a scheme for local transport improvements throughout the area.^

To take part in the survey, visit: http://windsorlink.co.uk/.


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: Electric train on June 22, 2013, 12:15:55
Seems to have gained a little more traction .........

http://www.windsorobserver.co.uk/news/roundup/articles/2013/06/20/90502-boost-for-windsor-link-railway-project/ (http://www.windsorobserver.co.uk/news/roundup/articles/2013/06/20/90502-boost-for-windsor-link-railway-project/)

Although in Network Rail speak ...... you find all the money and we'll be happy to support the project as long as it don't cost us anything


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: JayMac on June 22, 2013, 12:30:34
I've said elsewhere, porcine aviation will happen first.


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: Electric train on June 22, 2013, 15:03:53
I've said elsewhere, porcine aviation will happen first.

maybe so but you have to admire there enthusiasm and even eccentricity


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: eightf48544 on June 22, 2013, 21:55:35
Still think curve and gradient of Link makes it impractical.


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: tom m on June 09, 2014, 16:32:25
Seems that it is being pushed a little more:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-27760760

Its only funding for planning permission, but if the permission is granted, is it a serious proposal that can be privately funded?


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: Electric train on June 09, 2014, 19:29:14
Seems that it is being pushed a little more:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-27760760

Its only funding for planning permission, but if the permission is granted, is it a serious proposal that can be privately funded?

I went to an IET lecture last month in High Wycombe where George Bathurst gave lecture, he has the business plan laid out for funding the project, his first objective raise the funding for planning permission once planning permission is granted he sees the funding for the design and construction being unlocked, he has various thoughts who would fund it.


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: eightf48544 on June 10, 2014, 08:22:11
Still think curve and gradient of Link makes it impractical.

To add to my misgivings there's the question of electrifcation. by the time any work could start the Slough to Windsor branch will have the wires slung. Riverside is already third rail. So are SWT (or whoever) going to have a set of dual voltage units for the service, for just for 2 miles?

Maybe the 313s if there are any left. The Riverside passengers aren't going to like those after their Desiros and refurbed Junipers.


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: Electric train on June 10, 2014, 18:37:08
Still think curve and gradient of Link makes it impractical.

To add to my misgivings there's the question of electrifcation. by the time any work could start the Slough to Windsor branch will have the wires slung. Riverside is already third rail. So are SWT (or whoever) going to have a set of dual voltage units for the service, for just for 2 miles?

Maybe the 313s if there are any left. The Riverside passengers aren't going to like those after their Desiros and refurbed Junipers.

Nop!

Windsor Rail Link intention is to de-wire the Slough - Windsor route and install third rail, the WR trains terminate at Slough, SW Trains have told WR they don't want to run AC/DC stock, also the AC/DC change over area is a complex bit of electrification.

They have to terminate at Slough because the cost of a grade separated junction at Slough is prohibitively expensive, NR will not allow a flat junction across the Mains to Reliefs.  Also WR will almost certainly have to build one new Traction Substation and at least one Track Paralleling Hut between Datchet (currently the nearest Traction Substation to Windsor Riverside) and Slough.  Its more these aspects that make me think it will falter


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: eightf48544 on June 10, 2014, 18:55:03
Thanks for spelling out the problem Electric train.

I tackled Councillor Bathurst on the problems of elctrifcation and it was brushed aside. You've given me some good ammunition for any future encounter with him.

Whilst in general terms I would support such links they have to have a point.

I can't see what advantage Windsor gets from the link.

OK Slough gets direct access to Staines Feltham, Twickenham (for rugby fans)and Richmond, but I'm not sure many people from Slough want to go to those places and even less from them to Slough! Plus as the Windwor line to  Waterloo is slow it will probably still be quicker to go via Crossrail and the Bakeloo  from Slough.


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: grahame on August 01, 2018, 17:35:42
Consortium submits proposal for Windsor Link Railway in the UK - Global Rail News (https://www.globalrailnews.com/2018/08/01/consortium-submits-proposal-for-windsor-link-railway-in-the-uk/)

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A consortium including global investor Meridiam has submitted a market-led proposal to the UK government to build the Windsor Link Railway.

Phase 1 of the project will cost £370 million and will see a new rail tunnel constructed in Windsor – as well as new houses – to connect the South Western and Great Western main lines. Phase 2 will connect Heathrow to the west.


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: ellendune on August 01, 2018, 17:40:44
Consortium submits proposal for Windsor Link Railway in the UK - Global Rail News (https://www.globalrailnews.com/2018/08/01/consortium-submits-proposal-for-windsor-link-railway-in-the-uk/)

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A consortium including global investor Meridiam has submitted a market-led proposal to the UK government to build the Windsor Link Railway.

Phase 1 of the project will cost £370 million and will see a new rail tunnel constructed in Windsor – as well as new houses – to connect the South Western and Great Western main lines. Phase 2 will connect Heathrow to the west.

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So houses are now to be provided to connect South Western and GW Main lines - will the passengers be delayed that long they will need to live there?
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Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: FarWestJohn on August 01, 2018, 19:15:20
Hope it is completed more speedily than the re-opening to Tavistock.


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: paul7575 on August 01, 2018, 19:24:46
Heathrow doesn’t need three new links does it? 

If the more direct western link via Langley towards Slough is built, which already seems to have DfT&NR backing, surely the second priority should be the Southern link via Staines and West Byfleet towards Woking and Guildford?

Paul



Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: Noggin on August 02, 2018, 11:26:00
Consortium submits proposal for Windsor Link Railway in the UK - Global Rail News (https://www.globalrailnews.com/2018/08/01/consortium-submits-proposal-for-windsor-link-railway-in-the-uk/)

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A consortium including global investor Meridiam has submitted a market-led proposal to the UK government to build the Windsor Link Railway.

Phase 1 of the project will cost £370 million and will see a new rail tunnel constructed in Windsor – as well as new houses – to connect the South Western and Great Western main lines. Phase 2 will connect Heathrow to the west.

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So houses are now to be provided to connect South Western and GW Main lines - will the passengers be delayed that long they will need to live there?
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As far as I can see it's effectively a property development scheme which is enabled by burying the railway under Windsor and as a sweetener, ties the two lines together. Whilst such tunneling is hardly going to be cheap, the resulting property is going to be highly desirable, and thus very lucrative for the developers.

I've not read all the bumph, as ever, the devil is in the detail and a few things strike me as problematic (some of which are mentioned above). Presuming that the intention is to extend Waterloo services to Slough rather than reverse them in a new underground Windsor station:

1) The line from Windsor to Slough will need to be redoubled. How practical/costly is that going to be? There are a number of bridges to be replaced for a start.
2) Slough station will likely need an additional platform (at least) to terminate Waterloo services, that will presumably block the current access to the car park. 
3) The line will need to be electrified. The obvious way to do it would be to extend 3rd rail to Slough as it will be less visually intrusive and not require dual-voltage stock, but will the regulators allow this through a semi-rural area which is difficult to control access to? As we know, running 3rd rail and 25kV in close proximity is tricky and the cost of NR making alterations to the wiring in Slough station is likely to be high.
4) The plans indicate a west-facing curve linking the Windsor line to the GWML. As far as I can see from Google Maps it's going to be extremely tricky to provide access to Stranraer Gardens as the ORR now frowns on level crossings. 



 


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: paul7575 on August 02, 2018, 12:15:48
The gradient from a tunnel to the existing bridge and Slough branch is not going to be easy.  Unless perhaps they tunnel right under the Thames as well, and half way to Slough...

Paul


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: Red Squirrel on August 02, 2018, 12:50:01

...There are a number of bridges to be replaced for a start.
 

It's way out of my area, so forgive me if this is a daft question, but are there? A quick squizz at Google's satellite view suggests that the disused sides of the bridges are all in situ and in no worse a state of repair than the active sides. Has the girder bridge over the Thames been re-used for some other purpose though? There's something yellow occupying the trackbed...


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: eightf48544 on August 02, 2018, 14:05:43

From Wikipedia:

The bridge is a single-span structure comprising three bowstring trusses which created two bays for the original two GWR tracks.[3] The bridge is the World's oldest wrought iron railway bridge still in regular service,[4] and is a forerunner of Brunel's final masterpiece, the Royal Albert Bridge, Saltash.[1] The bridge was Grade II* listed in 1975.[1]

Although the bridge was built to take two tracks, the track on the upstream side was removed when the line was rationalised in the 1960s. The trackbed on this side now carries a sewage or water main pipe.

I think noggin has outlined the problems well. 

Slough and Windsor railway Society had an update on the project from Mr, Bathurst.

They've marginally eased the gradients and curves on the link with a different alignment, but the problem of electrification remains.

One thing the new platform at slough will have to be considerably longer and will need to be 12 cars long so extend under Stoke Road bridge.. Means the SWRS's Manor and the West Car Park will have to go.

If any reopening in the Thames Valley is needed it is Bourne to High Wycombe. Coupled with the Western Link to Heathrow and East West Rail would give an alternative route from Milton Keynes to Heathrow serving Aylesbury and High Wycombe.




Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: Red Squirrel on August 02, 2018, 14:14:56

The trackbed on this side now carries a sewage or water main pipe.


Well as long as the powers that be know what type of pipe it is, I suppose we're alright...


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: grahame on August 02, 2018, 14:17:24
Taking a wider and theoretical view, I got my crayons out.

Windsor has two stations, both to the south of the Thames, both approached from the north of the Thames by separate river bridges.   The two lines aren't all that far apart north of the river, and between them there's significants amounts of green rather that developed housing.  Admiteddly this particular green is likely to bet quite eloquently defended.

Why not build a link line over the fields - as shown in the diagram below.  There's a choice as to whether you complete all legs of both triangles, and indeed whether you route all trains into a single Windsor station.

(http://www.wellho.net/pix/mycrayonswindsor.jpg)


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: eightf48544 on August 02, 2018, 14:31:15
Grahame you've got a safe  bet that your route would be vigorously defended. After all they opposed a station on the main line at Slough in the 1840s and to this day the GW branch is well to the  West and there is still no station in Eton/ Eton Wick.

I also think your plan is not what the sponsors of the link are after which is one through station in Windsor serving both Slough onto Paddington and Waterloo and maybe the airport


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: Noggin on August 03, 2018, 14:01:19

If any reopening in the Thames Valley is needed it is Bourne to High Wycombe. Coupled with the Western Link to Heathrow and East West Rail would give an alternative route from Milton Keynes to Heathrow serving Aylesbury and High Wycombe.


AIUI the issue is that there has been significant construction on the trackbed, particularly in Bourne End, but further north too, and you'd need at least two level crossings, which you'd never get permission for. There's also a lack of paths on the GWML as it is, so I can't see if being particularly practical, even if it had a magic money tree.

Access to Heathrow from stations along the Chiltern Mainline would probably best be handled by running Chiltern services into the new Old Oak Common station as has been mooted, giving them access to HS2 and Crossrail. Similarly, Milton Keynes might best be dealt with by routing services to OOC.

Regarding my earlier comment, I meant that there appear to be a number of single-span overbridges between the Thames and Slough which would need to be widened. 



Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: eightf48544 on August 03, 2018, 16:52:37
Regarding my earlier comment, I meant that there appear to be a number of single-span overbridges between the Thames and Slough which would need to be widened. 

The double track alignment is complete from the Thames bridge to Slough they even built the newJubilee River bridge double track.

If you double track from Slough to just before the river bridge you could run a fairly robust 10 minute service with 2 trains.

1st  train leaves Slough dep  00 6 minutes to Windsor arr 006
2nd train leaves Windsor dep 00 6 minutes to Slough arr 006

1st train leaves Windsor dep 10 6minutes to Slough  arr 16
2nd train leaves Slough dep 10 6 minutes to Windsor arr 16

Dynamic passing on double track.


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: Electric train on August 03, 2018, 22:35:35
If the construction of the tunnel under Windsor putting aside the cost, technical and environmental challenges, the re-doubling could be achieved with passing loops; however when I attended the IET presentation on it a couple of years ago, the person presenting either could not or did not want to understand the issues around interfacing DC and AC traction areas.  I know how complex they are I have to deal with more than my fair share of them at work.

The grade separation at Slough will possibly be as expensive as the tunnel in Windsor, the Stoke Rd over bridge would have to be replaced I am sure


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: Lee on November 24, 2018, 08:50:01
George Bathurst defends his scheme in this article - https://www.sloughobserver.co.uk/news/17242113.windsor-link-railway-plan-defended-by-the-man-behind-it/

Interestingly, he says "we will all be dead by the time it’s finished"...


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: TaplowGreen on November 24, 2018, 10:11:31
George Bathurst defends his scheme in this article - https://www.sloughobserver.co.uk/news/17242113.windsor-link-railway-plan-defended-by-the-man-behind-it/

Interestingly, he says "we will all be dead by the time it’s finished"...

Which is a great relief to all of us who live locally. It's a pleasant stroll from Central to Riverside in one of England's most picturesque towns which does no-one any harm. Hideously expensive, disruptive construction work is completely unnecessary.


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail Rejected by DfT
Post by: paul7575 on December 07, 2018, 10:43:17
Rejected by DFT according to new Civil Engineer article:
The proposed Windsor Link Railway (WLR) which would have provided southern access into Heathrow has been “rejected outright” by the government as part of its call for market led proposals (MLP).

https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/exclusive-windsor-to-heathrow-rail-scheme-rejected-outright/10037993.article?blocktitle=News-Feed&contentID=13612

As I always expected, personally.  A solution to a non existent problem as an excuse for property development alongside the Thames?  (Maybe - see post 29 above...)

Paul


Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail Rejected by DfT
Post by: Dispatch Box on December 07, 2018, 13:18:02
Rejected by DFT according to new Civil Engineer article:
The proposed Windsor Link Railway (WLR) which would have provided southern access into Heathrow has been “rejected outright” by the government as part of its call for market led proposals (MLP).

https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/exclusive-windsor-to-heathrow-rail-scheme-rejected-outright/10037993.article?blocktitle=News-Feed&contentID=13612

As I always expected, personally.  A solution to a non existent problem as an excuse for property development alongside the Thames?  (Maybe - see post 29 above...)

Paul


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Title: Re: Windsor Link Rail
Post by: RichardB on January 28, 2023, 15:12:45
I can't imagine why but I was thinking about this earlier and thought everything had gone very quiet about it.   That 2018 rejection seems to have killed the idea stone dead.  Can't say I'm sorry.

Someone has written it up in a fair bit of detail on Wikipedia.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Link_Railway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Link_Railway)



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