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Title: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: IanC on January 03, 2010, 11:25:28 pm
For every night this week on BBC2, Michael Portillo will travel most of the north of England by train, as part of a new set of programmes about the railways and those who use it.

BBC2 Link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00pykgg)

Also, on S4C over the Christmas period, there was a comedy drama by Ruth Jones (she of Gavin & Stacey fame) about a fictional welsh train company 'Welsh Railways' and the train crew on a journey between Swansea and London.

S4C link (http://www.s4c.co.uk/arytracs/e_index.shtml)



Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: IndustryInsider on January 04, 2010, 02:29:58 pm
Thanks, IanC. It's on BBC HD too and so my Sky+HD box is now all set and ready to record!

I'm not the biggest fan of Portillo though - we'll see whether he does as good a job as Ian Hislop and the rather lovely Julia Bradbury have done on their recent programmes.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on January 04, 2010, 05:48:37 pm
first one sounds like pacer country  :D


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on January 04, 2010, 06:40:06 pm
Ahhh edge hill I know it well! ;D  :-\   :'(


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Btline on January 05, 2010, 06:48:11 pm
Anyone notice that at the start of the first programme, they show a Pacer for outside shots, and a 150 for inside shots! (and for a shot of the guard operating the doors!) ;D ;D

Good BBC accuracy!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 08, 2010, 06:44:56 pm
Starting Monday 18th January Michael Portillo pitches up in 'our' neck of the woods on his 'Great British Railway Journeys' series. All episodes BBC TWO 1830-1900.
 
 
Michael Portillo travels the country by train, with a copy of George Bradshaw's Victorian Railway Guidebook, to discover how the railways changed us and what of Bradshaw's Britain remains.

Monday 18th.
Swindon to Bristol
Michael finds out about free holiday trains for the GWR workers in Swindon, samples the Spa in Bath, and tries his hand at glass blowing in Bristol.

Tuesday 19th.
Yatton to Weston Super Mare
Michael samples local Cheddar strawberries, explores Cheddar Gorge and the famous caves, and visits one of the oldest piers in the country at Weston Super Mare.

Wednesday 20th.
Torquay to Totnes
Michael finds out about Torquay's micro climate, goes salmon fishing on the Dart estuary and spends some of Totnes' new local currency.

Thursday 21st.
Bugle to Mevagissey
Michael visits the largest clay mine in the world near St Austell, goes pilchard fishing in Mevagissey and finds out how the estate of Heligan shaped British gardens.

Friday 22nd.
Truro to Penzance
Michael searches for the lost church of St Piran, explores the last working tin mine in Cornwall and harvests oysters on the Helford River.

(Edited to include details of the Fri 22nd Jan episode)




Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Phil on January 08, 2010, 07:29:17 pm
Friday 22nd is Truro to Penzance, according to DigiGuide


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: moonrakerz on January 08, 2010, 09:07:32 pm
Anyone notice that at the start of the first programme, they show a Pacer for outside shots, and a 150 for inside shots! (and for a shot of the guard operating the doors!) ;D ;D

Good BBC accuracy!

It got better, on the second programme they threw in a 158 as well !


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Btline on January 08, 2010, 09:14:41 pm
I know, I could make a list a mile long with mistakes.

Was there anyone in charge of continuity? :o Or did Northern just sponsor the series so much, they had to put that clip of a really clean 158 with "Northern" really prominent. ::)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 08, 2010, 09:26:42 pm
Hmm.

I'd like to second IndustryInsider's preference for railway programmes presented by

... the rather lovely Julia Bradbury ...

I haven't noticed any continuity problems in those!

C.  :-* :-[ :-X


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 08, 2010, 09:30:06 pm

There were very few aerial shots of rolling stock in the lovely Julia's programmes - what with her walking along disused railway lines.  :P :D


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: TerminalJunkie on January 08, 2010, 11:35:58 pm
In the opening credits, there's a shot of a ticket being passed under a screen, before a hand covers it to take it.

It looks like it's a ticket from Exeter St Davids to Exeter Central, but I can't slow the replay clearly or pause it in the right place to be certain.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Btline on January 08, 2010, 11:41:23 pm
Why doesn't he just get rovers? ???

Perhaps it's because he films short sections on trains and at stations where he then gets into a Jeep to continue his journey! ;) Hence the lack of continuity.

Other thing I've noticed - it's strange how the cameramen never get their tickets checked and they manage to pass through ticket barriers without a ticket inspection. ;D I'll have to carry a camera next time I want to fare dodge and say I'm doing a documentary!

And it was funny when Michael got on a train, the train left, leaving the poor cameraman stranded on the platform!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 09, 2010, 12:05:24 am
In the opening credits, there's a shot of a ticket being passed under a screen, before a hand covers it to take it.

It looks like it's a ticket from Exeter St Davids to Exeter Central, but I can't slow the replay clearly or pause it in the right place to be certain.

Good spot TJ. Looks like a case of "Can you sell us the cheapest ticket, for a shot we want to compose?"

(http://www.mbob.co.uk/bnm/Photobucket_Your%20Bucket//ticket.jpg)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: inspector_blakey on January 09, 2010, 02:33:02 am
Thanks in no small measure to my own efforts, the last few posts in this thread were wandering off topic into the area of "what all the numbers on your ticket actually mean". I've split these topics off into a separate thread with that title in Fares Fair, but to save you the trouble of finding it, just click here:
http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=6074.0 (http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=6074.0)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: inspector_blakey on January 11, 2010, 04:00:18 am
Just watched the first two programmes on the iPlayer and I'm really rather impressed - whatever you may think of him as a politician, Portillo seems like a natural in front of the camera and his enthusiasm for the subject is obvious. Some of the aerial photography is pretty stunning as well; I'm looking forward to his foray into FGW territory.

Anyone notice that at the start of the first programme, they show a Pacer for outside shots, and a 150 for inside shots! (and for a shot of the guard operating the doors!) ;D ;D

Good BBC accuracy!

Come on Btline, rivet counting of the worst possible kind, I'm afraid! I bet you'd be the first to start flaming about the appalling, disgusting waste of the licence fee if the Beeb had sent up a separate helicopter each time to take 100% faithful aerial shots!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Btline on January 11, 2010, 02:53:51 pm
How about the appalling waste of licence fee paying for rail fares, when he could have driven/ faredodged! ;D :P


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on January 11, 2010, 03:48:40 pm
a politition trying to promote the railways, and your knocking it?


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: inspector_blakey on January 11, 2010, 04:09:54 pm
How about the appalling waste of licence fee paying for rail fares, when he could have driven/ faredodged! ;D :P

Did you see how many times his ticket was checked in the first couple of episodes? I don't think that would have worked! ;)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Btline on January 11, 2010, 05:07:11 pm
How about the appalling waste of licence fee paying for rail fares, when he could have driven/ faredodged! ;D :P

Did you see how many times his ticket was checked in the first couple of episodes? I don't think that would have worked! ;)

The cameraman wasn't though!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: TerminalJunkie on January 11, 2010, 05:25:12 pm
http://www.groupsave.co.uk/


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 11, 2010, 05:50:12 pm
Btline, do you really have issue with how this programmes is put together and how much it cost? I think you are posting merely to get a reaction. If you are concerned about whether cameramen had tickets and whether they were checked then may I suggest, as you are obviously a concerned licence fee payer, that you write to the BBC to find out.

As for the editing and mix and match approach to filming rolling stock I think this is hardly central to each programme. The central theme is Bradshaw's Guide and the places it featured, not an anal account of rolling stock on a particular journey.

Finally the BBC is there to inform, educate and entertain. I think these programmes cover that nicely.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on January 11, 2010, 05:51:34 pm
Thankyou!! Lock topic lol


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Btline on January 11, 2010, 06:03:12 pm
Woh! People are getting very agitated! I think the programme is very well put together (if a little patronising at times, maybe...) and is excellent value for the licence fee.

My comments re rolling stock are only there as I am a person that would notice. I don't think it matters, it's just amusing to see a 142 turn into a 158 when watching. I'd thought I'd point that out.

Same with the ticket checking, cameramen being left behind at station etc. The whole thing is done very well to look "natural" and discrepancies stand out.

ALL of my posts on this thread are light hearted and are: " :P " .

Now "chillax"!! :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on January 11, 2010, 07:46:22 pm
..... "discrepancies stand out"...... For certain users like me and you ;D but some people scary as it sounds wouldn't know the difference in a142 and a158 even if they traveled on them, if I take my spotters hat off and ignore the ticket purchase methods... Which I don't care about, it's a good program I'm enjoying it!


Now please can we shut up about it  ;D

 


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 11, 2010, 08:39:30 pm
Thank you all, for perhaps just 'agreeing to disagree' over some interesting minor points of continuity in these programmes.  ;)

I'm certainly not intending to lock this topic - members are welcome to continue the discussion of these generally informative programmes, in the spirit in which they are intended!

C.  :)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: moonrakerz on January 12, 2010, 02:33:51 pm
a politition trying to promote the railways, and your knocking it?

Yes - but he is...........a Tory !!!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 12, 2010, 06:34:21 pm
a politition trying to promote the railways, and your knocking it?

Yes - but he is...........a Tory !!!

Was.

And he was instrumental in saving the Settle-Carlisle when at the DoT.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: devon_metro on January 12, 2010, 07:18:34 pm
Has btline not yet commented on the inclusion of a clip of the fgw loco hauled set in todays Settle & Carlisle programme?  :o :o


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on January 12, 2010, 07:31:33 pm
i missed it tonight... damn snow!

just a reminder anyone that did miss it its on the bbc iplayer


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Btline on January 12, 2010, 07:33:52 pm
Has btline not yet commented on the inclusion of a clip of the fgw loco hauled set in todays Settle & Carlisle programme?  :o :o

I'm getting behind in watching them (only seen first 3) - they're stacking up on my V+ box though! ;D


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: devon_metro on January 12, 2010, 08:58:54 pm
Watch out for 1 min 37s then  ;)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Btline on January 12, 2010, 09:36:57 pm
I've now finished the first journey, and have to say that continuity certainly got their act together from Pontefract onwards! :P

I mean, the cameraman even followed Michael onboard! :o


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Btline on January 13, 2010, 08:50:47 pm
Ok, I don't want to labour the point/ bore you to hell, BUT....

In the Preston episode, start watching from about 2.30 mins. The overhead shot of the train coming into the station is a 158, he is on a 156, the platform shot of the train coming in is a Pacer, the internal shot of Portillo opening the doors is a 156 and the external shot of him stepping out is a 185!
 :o :o :o :o :o :o

Agggrrrh, is someone at the BBC doing it deliberately to raise my blood pressure? And I havn't even started on the accuracy of the route map at the beginning of the episode. Since when was their a direct line from Blackpool to Morcombe Bay?

Before people moan, the latest episodes have been excellent, esp the Settle to Carlisle one. All the above is " :p ".


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Btline on January 13, 2010, 08:53:48 pm
Watch out for 1 min 37s then  ;)

Well, I watched out and missed it. (looking for an external view of the set! ;) )

But B hell, when I looked at 1.37 on iPlayer, it stuck out like a sore thumb! ;D


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 13, 2010, 09:21:50 pm
Here you go Btline.......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbpointsofview

Pass on your critiques. You never know you might find fellow pedants!*

 ;D ;D :P :P

*BTW, I am a fully paid up member of 'Pedants Unanonymous'


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: TerminalJunkie on January 14, 2010, 04:19:14 am
Since when was their a direct line from Blackpool to Morcombe Bay?

If you're going to attempt pedantry, you should at least do it properly. It's "Morecambe Bay".


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on January 14, 2010, 09:01:36 pm
he didnt say there was...he said he was making the next leg from blackpool to Morecambe Bay


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Btline on January 14, 2010, 09:27:01 pm
he didnt say there was...he said he was making the next leg from blackpool to Morecambe Bay

Ahhh - one of MY pet hates!!!  :-X :-\ :'(

 I must have been in a hurry. Really there is NO excuse to make such a woeful grammatical error. There not their. Apologies...

PS: In Wednesdays programme, why was there a sequence shot at Highley station on the SVR? (the bit with sheep on trains)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: 6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01 on January 14, 2010, 09:45:20 pm
is Ahhh in the dictionary?


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: inspector_blakey on February 02, 2010, 03:33:22 am
Just got round to the FGW land week, and watched the Swindon - Bristol episode. Did it strike anyone else that every time he was on an FGW HST they removed the antimacassars from the seat? I can only assume that was to avoid giving "undue prominence" to the FGW logo but it seems a bit over the top given all the external shots of NXEC, Northern, Virgin, FGW and XC trains in all their liveried glory there have been up to now!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: IanC on December 19, 2010, 06:47:54 pm
Heads up for those who'll be out and about around Christmas / New year time, that a new series of Michael Portillo journeying around Great Britain will start on Monday 3rd January

Quote
DOCUMENTARY:  Great British Railway Journeys
Channel: BBC 2 Wales
Date: Monday 3rd January 2011
Time: 18:30 to 19:00 (starting in 14 days)
Duration: 30 minutes.
Brighton to Crystal Palace. Series 2, episode 1.
Michael Portillo takes to the tracks with a copy of George Bradshaw's Victorian Railway Guidebook. In a series of five epic
...
 the underground quarries of Godstone, and discovers the wonders of the Crystal Palace in suburban south London.
 (Stereo, New Series, Widescreen, Subtitles, Audio Described)

And there'll also be a 'sequel' to Ruth Jones' drama 'Ar Y Tracs' (On the Tracks) on S4C on New Years Eve, with a repeat showing of the Christmas special they did last year about the 'Welsh Railway Company' journey between Swansea and Paddington on the 26th December.

Quote
DRAMA:  Ar y Tracs
Channel: S4C Digital
Date: Saturday 1st January 2011
Time: 21:00 to 22:30 (starting in 13 days)
Duration: 1 hour and 30 minutes.
Y Tr^n I'r G^m.
It's the weekend of the big game. Wales v England. There's excitement in the air, and the tickets are like gold dust. Soon the trains will be packed full of
...
ers on their way to the Stadium, the Welsh Rail crew trying to keep them all in check. Join Reality, Pandora and the team as they go on another colourful adventure.
 (Stereo)



Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 03, 2011, 05:17:43 pm
*Bump*

The new series of Michael Portillo's Great British Railway Journeys starts tonight on BBC2, 1830.

This time round, 5 'journeys' each of five 30 minute episodes Mon-Fri for the next 5 weeks. That's 12^ hours of almost prime-time TV dedicated to the railways of the UK. Well done BBC!

Week one is a journey from Brighton to Cromer.

Week two follows the route of the 'Irish Mail' from Ledbury to Holyhead.

EDIT: Also, following, on BBC4 at 1900 is a repeat of John Sergeant's Tracks Of Empire about the railway legacy the British left in India.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: willc on January 03, 2011, 07:35:34 pm
Quote
Week two follows the route of the 'Irish Mail' from Ledbury to Holyhead.

A route which will come as news to anyone living in Herefordshire, or anywhere else in the Marches, given that the Irish Mail ran Euston-Crewe-Holyhead. Still no-one seems to care these days, given there are those steam-hauled tour trains running around everywhere claiming to be the Cathedrals Express, even though FGW still operates regular services using the name.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 03, 2011, 07:40:07 pm
Indeed willc. I was merely quoting from the Radio Times.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: IndustryInsider on January 03, 2011, 07:40:48 pm
An enjoyable programme today, thanks for the reminder BNM.  I found Portillo's delivery better than the first series - I'm looking forward to catching the rest of the series, though what a shocker of a green jacket!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: chuffed on January 03, 2011, 10:26:13 pm
 The combination of the pink striped shirt and the green jacket reminded me of a raspberry ripple and pistachio ice cream ! Was waiting for a 'crack' about the Brighton nudist beach when quoting from Bradshaw ::)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 04, 2011, 12:03:10 am
An amusing first post, chuffed. I've not watched the episode yet, but I'll be sure to keep an eye out for Mr Portillo's sartorial (in)elegance.  ;D

In the mean time, may I extend a very warm welcome to the Coffee Shop Forum!  ;) ;D


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Electric train on January 15, 2011, 06:33:42 pm
I have enjoyed this series so far.  Last week certainly highlighted my need to revisit the North Wales lines again


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 15, 2011, 07:21:00 pm
And I thought much the same, electric train. My next ALR will have to include another trip to North Wales, this time heading south to Blaenau and Porthmadog.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: eightf48544 on January 16, 2011, 12:33:58 am
Might beat you to it bignosemac booked on the second UKRailtours tour to Bleanau and then through to Ceanarvon first trip on 18th March booked up very quickly lucky to get on the second on 25th. Unfortunately it's coaches from LLanduno Junction and Caernarvon. Anthoer reason for putting back Caenarvon to Bangor  and another loop on the Bleanau line. Which they might need if the plan to ship all the  waste slate out by rail goes ahead.

Not sure it's quite up to the Harz but almost.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: readytostart on January 17, 2011, 04:21:12 pm
Looks like the Beeb have listened to the pedants, continuity seems to be a lot better this series!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Brucey on January 17, 2011, 04:29:40 pm
I've caught up as far as last Thursday and have enjoyed this series very much.  Content has been much more interesting than the previous series (although that was also pretty good).

My only gripe is when Michael chats to the guards/conductors/TMs about some attraction further down the line and they seem clueless about the history but just play along by answering his questions.  Cringeworthy at times.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 17, 2011, 04:39:49 pm
A little cringeworthy at times I agree. But no doubt when the BBC get their filming clearances with the relevant TOCs I'd hope that the on train staff are forewarned of the presence of Mr Portaloo and his camera crew!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Brucey on January 18, 2011, 06:04:07 pm
"I've nothing against buses but its not the same as a train, is it?"

Obviously didn't check the engineering works before setting out on a Sunday :P


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: chuffed on January 23, 2011, 08:45:14 am
Did anyone set up their recorder to record Thursdays programme 20th January ? Mine is set up record the entire series and missed this one ! Speaking to friends, their recorders missed it too ! Does anyone have any idea what happenend ? ???


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Electric train on January 23, 2011, 08:47:22 am
Did anyone set up their recorder to record Thursdays programme 20th January ? Mine is set up record the entire series and missed this one ! Speaking to friends, their recorders missed it too ! Does anyone have any idea what happenend ? ???
Snooker overran I think, it is available on the BBCi player


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 23, 2011, 10:19:04 pm
It is indeed available on BBC iPlayer, at http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00xxr4n/Great_British_Railway_Journeys_Series_2_Batley_to_Sheffield/ until 11 February!

CfN  ;)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: readytostart on January 24, 2011, 07:41:09 pm
Hmmn, about 1:25 into today's episode and a train appears from a tunnel taillights blazing on the wrong road! Methinks someone without much railway knowledge has been in the editting suite making things look prettier!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Brucey on January 24, 2011, 07:42:16 pm
Hmmn, about 1:25 into today's episode and a train appears from a tunnel taillights blazing on the wrong road! Methinks someone without much railway knowledge has been in the editting suite making things look prettier!
Didn't we have this on the last series where the steam was being sucked back into the steam loco and the cars were travelling backwards?


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: inspector_blakey on February 07, 2011, 04:18:22 am
Just been catching up on an episode from earlier on last week (the one with Tarbert and Crianlarich in it) and I'm amazed by the number of 6-car 156s apparently running around western Scotland. Can't be all down to the continuity of the aerial shots as there are a couple of occasions when he quite clearly boards or alights from a six-car train.

Is there really demand for that length of train up there, or is it a reflection of portion working where a few trains leave Glasgow coupled together then divide and go their separate ways to Mallaig/Oban etc? My knowledge of workings north of the border is zero, I've never made it up there by train (one day though, the scenery looks fantastic...) And if they don't need all of those units for capacity or portion working, can we have a couple down in FGW-land please... ;)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: The Tall Controller on February 07, 2011, 04:49:29 pm
They join/separate at Crianlarich unless they are running late in which case its a different station!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: laird on February 07, 2011, 08:06:31 pm
Normal pattern is 6 cars to Crianlarich, then the diagrams either put 4 cars North to Fort William and Mallaig or 4 to Oban. Usually 4 toward Fort William.

The crew workings are even more interesting, the Mallaig/Fort William crew bring the set down to Crianlarich where they are relieved by the crew coming from Oban.
The Oban crew then work all six cars between Crianlarich and Ardlui where they swap with the Glasgow crew on the Northbound working.
Presumably this gives the Fort William crew just about enough break time before they work North from Crianlarich, the trolley does the same.

During the summer season the peak services are operated separately, four cars each then work through to Oban/Mallaig without splitting at Crianlarich.
This gives an effective 2 car set increase over the Glasgow to Crianlarich section and increases the number of services between these points by one.

There is also a commuter service which operates over the Southern section of the line allowing the locals to travel in to Glasgow and then return on the 1812 from Queen Street.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 06, 2012, 06:46:43 pm
Series 3 of Michael Portillo's 'Great British Railway Journeys' started this past Monday. The first week focused on journeys in East Anglia and all episodes are still available on the BBC iPlayer (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/search?q=Great%20British%20Railway%20Journeys).

As before, each weeks' 5 episodes focus on one area of the UK, or are linked by one journey (with off shoots). Of interest to Coffee Shop members may be the next two weeks' episodes:

Starting Monday 9th January BBC2 1830, Michael will be making a journey from Windsor to Portland, taking in Didcot, Reading, Winchester, The Isle of Wight, Brockenhurst (hope you don't have problems with the camera crew there Michael  :P), Poole and Weymouth/Portland.

Starting Monday 16th January, Michael travels from Oxford to Milford Haven, taking in Pershore, Great Malvern, Lydney, Newport, Cardiff and Brecon.

As with the second series there are 25 episodes in total. As yet, I've not found any information as to content for the journeys in weeks 4 and 5.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: inspector_blakey on January 06, 2012, 06:53:41 pm
Starting Monday 16th January, Michael travels from Oxford to Milford Haven, taking in Pershore, Great Malvern, Lydney, Newport, Cardiff and Brecon.

I'll have to keep an eye out for that one...made almost exactly that journey many times (except not quite as far as Milford).


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Btline on January 06, 2012, 07:02:38 pm
He was seen filming at Hartlebury station (near Kidderminster). Will this be a deviation from the Pershore - Malvern route? If so, I'm surprised he's ignored the Severn Valley Railway, Britain's premier steam railway...

BNM: Are you referring to SWT "draconian" measures to stop filming, as Brockenhurst must be high on the terror target list. Listen here, you take Brokenhurst out, the whole country will grind to a halt - you never know, a few SWT services might be AXED DUE TO OPERATIONAL CONVENIENCE."

I wish he wouldn't wear that pink shirt/jacket...


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 06, 2012, 07:17:59 pm
He was seen filming at Hartlebury station (near Kidderminster). Will this be a deviation from the Pershore - Malvern route?

Indeed, Hartlebury is to feature in week 3 from Jan 16th.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Brucey on January 06, 2012, 07:34:39 pm
I didn't realise there was a new series.  Thanks for the reminder bignosemac.

Shame it won't let me get this on Series Download as I (ironically) tend to watch these when travelling on the train!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Btline on January 06, 2012, 09:10:17 pm
I wonder if he gets off at the station - only served by a parliamentary service, albeit - double that of Melksham.

Shame he's diverting that way without the SVR. Fingers crossed for Series 4!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: devon_metro on January 06, 2012, 11:35:32 pm
As before, this series is up to the same quality as previous series. Light hearted, enjoyable and showing UK railways in a positive light.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Btline on January 06, 2012, 11:47:50 pm
Fenchurch Street desperately needs Phil Sayer... ;D

Also what was Michael thinking walking on the Royal Mail Tube with LIVE rails?!! I'd assume it was a section that was off but was shocked when they boarded that train and SPARKS flew out. :o


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Rhydgaled on January 07, 2012, 10:22:44 am
Brecon? Long way from a railway nowdays that. Is he only doing Milford Haven, or will the Pembroke Dock and Fishguard branches get a look in too?

Iplayer is a right pain for me now. I found out about this new series on Monday evening (having missed Monday's episode) and only managed to watch the Iplayer clip yesterday evening because I had to borrow my brother's computer since mine won't play the audio and video at the same speed. It is fine with most videos, but not BBC Iplayer ones.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Electric train on January 07, 2012, 11:36:49 am
Also what was Michael thinking walking on the Royal Mail Tube with LIVE rails?!! I'd assume it was a section that was off but was shocked when they boarded that train and SPARKS flew out. :o
Mailrail is defunct now there is it would seem only a small section kept working as a museum piece


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: BerkshireBugsy on January 10, 2012, 08:29:36 pm
It case some of you are interested this program, which goes out on weekdays at 630 pm , is covering some of the area around reading and the south coast.

It goes out on bbc2 and hd. I haven't watched today's completely but there were bits from reading and the watercress line. I personally enjoy the programme although in my opinion it will never win any prizes for continuity!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 12, 2012, 08:51:24 pm
From the Bournemouth Echo (http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/9463064.Michael_Portillo_explores_Swanage___s_historic_steam_railway/):

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Michael Portillo explores Swanage^s historic steam railway

Political commentator and former defence secretary Michael Portillo lets off steam in Swanage this week.

He will appear on television ^ against the backdrop of Swanage^s historic steam railway ^ as part of the documentary Great British Railway Journeys.

This BBC show follows the former Tory MP as he takes to the tracks with a copy of George Bradshaw^s Victorian Railway Guidebook under his arm, in a continuing quest to uncover what of Bradshaw^s Britain remains and how the railways have shaped the nation^s psyche.

The Swanage episode, to be aired on Friday, was filmed last summer. The first episode of Mr Portillo^s five-part journey from Windsor to Portland was aired on Monday and the show will be shown nightly.

^In 1840 one man transformed travel in Britain,^ said Mr Portillo. ^His name was George Bradshaw and his railway guide inspired the Victorians to take to the tracks. Stop by stop he told them where to travel, what to see and where to stop.^

Swanage Railway commercial manager Martin Payne explained how the opening of the ten-mile branch line from Wareham in 1885, some time after Bradshaw^s guidebook was published, changed Swanage from a quarrying and fishing community into a Victorian and Edwardian seaside resort.

He said: ^Purbeck stone was exported from Swanage by train while Purbeck ball clay was exported by rail from Norden and Furzebrook, north of Corfe Castle, to the Midlands^ potteries.^

Mr Payne added that everyone connected to Swanage Railway was ^delighted^ to help the BBC make a small part of the documentary, now in its third series.

^The episode featuring the Swanage Railway was filmed during the summer and looks fantastic,^ he said.

^Seeing those awesome Medieval ruins of Corfe Castle from our steam train makes a stunning and really striking visual for television.^

The award-winning Swanage Railway operates some 2,800 trains a year, mostly steam hauled. It is run by around 500 volunteers, assisted by more than 30 paid staff.

Friday^s show is scheduled to start at 6.30pm on BBC2.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 12, 2012, 08:55:16 pm
From the Worcester News (http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/9465292.As_seen_on_TV__the_day_Mr_Portillo_stopped_by/?ref=rss):

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As seen on TV: the day Mr Portillo stopped by

A Malvern school will feature in TV series Great British Railway Journeys, hosted by Michael Portillo, on Tuesday, January 17.

The documentary series sees former Conservative politician Mr Portillo travel the length and breadth of the country by train, and Tuesday's episode comes to Great Malvern to examine the legacy of composer Sir Edward Elgar.

The programme will focus on Elgar^s connection with the railway, which he used to attend concerts and music festivals throughout the United Kingdom.

During filming last July, Mr Portillo visited Malvern St James, where he was entertained by Elgar's Chanson de Matin, performed by pupil Tamsin Elsey and music teacher Malcolm Forbes-Peckham. Tamsin and Mr Portillo also discussed the influence of Elgar^s music in her life and her interest in the composer.

Headteacher Patricia Woodhouse said: ^We were delighted that Mr Portillo was able to take in the rich heritage and history of Malvern, as well as experiencing the exceptional musical talents of the girls at Malvern St James. We are very much looking forward to seeing the programme.^

He also visits the home of Queen Victoria^s favourite bishop in Hartlebury, near Worcester, sniffs out the secrets of Worcestershire Sauce, and follows in the footsteps of Victorian health fanatics to the Malvern Hills.

Great British Railway Journeys can be seen on BBC2 at 6.30pm.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: readytostart on January 13, 2012, 03:59:36 pm
Iplayer is a right pain for me now. I found out about this new series on Monday evening (having missed Monday's episode) and only managed to watch the Iplayer clip yesterday evening because I had to borrow my brother's computer since mine won't play the audio and video at the same speed. It is fine with most videos, but not BBC Iplayer ones.

It should give you the option to download for viewing on Windows Media Player, it's what I do when the stream goes a bit skewwiff.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Rhydgaled on January 18, 2012, 05:42:43 pm
It should give you the option to download for viewing on Windows Media Player, it's what I do when the stream goes a bit skewwiff.

That's what I do with BBC IPlayer, I download the 'for portable devices' video (which gives me a windows media format (.wmv) file) and play it in Windows Media Player. It used to work fine, then halfway through another TV series I was watching a while back Windows Media Player suddenly stopped playing it in sync. and the DRM stops me trying to use other media players.

I CANNOT stream from IPlayer, it will not buffer fast enough (0.5mbps internet connection speed out here, which is also why I tend to go for the portable devices download rather than the higher quality Windows Media version) so it plays a second or two of video then I have to wait ages for the next second.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Phil on January 18, 2012, 07:53:21 pm
*cough* http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/36542/iplayer%2B


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 18, 2012, 08:11:18 pm
Just watched the latest episode. Won't spoil it too much for those yet to see except to say that I no longer share the same opinion of Newport Station as that stated by Mr P......


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: inspector_blakey on January 19, 2012, 02:30:04 am
Series 3 starting to find its way onto Youtube, much to my delight. And who should crop up in episode one but Adrian Vaughan (http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=7264.0), former BR(W) signaller and railway author? Although in this case he was discussing the history of Somerleyton Hall in Suffolk.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Rob S on January 22, 2012, 08:45:58 pm
I don't know if someone has already mentioned it but you can now buy a hard backed facsimilie of the edition of Bradshaw's guide used in the programme from Amazon. :)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bradshaws-Handbook-Facsimile-Famous-Guide/dp/1908402024/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327264597&sr=8-1

A bargain at ^5. I ordered mine on Friday evening after finally deciding to google it after all these episodes and noticed that only the day before the Daily Mail had printed this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2089047/Bradshaws-Handbook-railway-guide-breaks-Amazon-bestsellers-list.html

edit....it looks like they are currently out of stock for now (maybe I got the last one as mine is already been dispatched) but in the meantime you can read it online thanks to these links (as its out of copyright)

http://lacithedog.wordpress.com/2010/07/01/michael-portillo-bradshaws-guide-and-great-british-railway-journeys/


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Brucey on January 22, 2012, 08:54:32 pm
Except for the price, I'm not sure what is different between the issue mentioned by Rob S and this one: http://www.bookcascade.co.uk/search/1908174056 :?

I finally watched a few episodes today.  The continuity has certainly improved and the content as enjoyable as ever.  Now to download the rest of the series (thank goodness for 100mbps internet).


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Rob S on January 22, 2012, 09:14:11 pm
The difference is stated in a couple of the reviews for both versions of the book on the Amazon website.

The ^20+ version is a bigger sized paperback, published a couple of months earlier than the one I mentioned. It apparently has all the maps and the adverts of the original....the cheaper one is apparently the same dimensions as the original and a hardback. According to someone that bought both, the hardbacked cheaper version lacks the maps and ads. That said one of the reviews for the cheaper book says that it contains maps too.....so maybe there are fewer maps rather than no maps. When mine arrives I'll see.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Rob S on January 24, 2012, 05:39:57 pm
Well it's arrived already...astonished given that I chose free delivery!! :o

It's fantastic....especially for ^5 :)

Regarding the maps and illustrations....there is a publishers note at the start that states that due to the size and condition of the original maps they have been unable to reproduce them in there entirety....they do include street maps of Birmingham, Sheffield, Liverpool, Manchester, Hull, Leeds, Glasgow & Edinburgh...the writing on the maps is tiny...there also a small selection of illustrations including a page of cathedrals, castles of England, views of Edinburgh, London (including the crystal palace) views of the Isle of Wight, abbeys of England, some Welsh bridges....and some adverts including insect destroying powder, a sewing machine, a glass and china shop in Oxford Street with prices.

Hope this helps


Title: Michael Portillo's - Great British Railway Journeys
Post by: RailCornwall on January 27, 2012, 07:10:12 pm
Not the best of quality but series one and two, which feature the Swindon to Penzance trip, are available to watch FREE online from Michael's own website....
 
here ^..

WWW.MICHAELPORTILLO.CO.UK (http://www.michaelportillo.co.uk/broad.htm)
27-Jan-2012 @ 19:08



Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 27, 2012, 08:04:01 pm
An alternative source for Series 1 is this page on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/user/GreatBritishRailway1#g/c/986822D8B854B8B8

Better resolution and correct aspect ratio than the videos on Mr P's website. Downside is each episode split into three parts, but queueing up clips using youtube's playlist function can overcome that.



Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: inspector_blakey on January 28, 2012, 04:43:05 am
I know I witter on about this fairly frequently, but it never ceases to amaze me how someone who appeared so reptilian as a politician can come across so well and be so engaging as a TV presenter!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 28, 2012, 10:42:21 am
A rather dubious taste in jackets, however.  ::) :o ;D


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Brucey on April 24, 2012, 01:45:08 pm
Portsmouth's Evening News is reporting that Michael Portillo was on board HMS Dragon today to film for a new series of Great British Railway Journeys.
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/now-i-m-sure-i-recognise-you-1-3767564


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on December 21, 2012, 05:01:43 pm
The latest series of Great British Railway Journeys starts on BBC Two on Monday 7th January 2013 at 18:30 and runs every night Monday to Friday as before.

7th Jan High Wycombe to Stratford Upon Avon
8th Jan Birmingham to Stafford
9th Jan Stoke on Trent to Winsford
10th Jan Dudley to Bridgnorth
11th Jan Welshpool to Aberystwyth

It continues the following week but episode details are not available yet as far as I know.

Meanwhile a link from Michael Portillo's website gives details of a digital version of Bradshaws
http://lacithedog.wordpress.com/2010/07/01/michael-portillo-bradshaws-guide-and-great-british-railway-journeys/ (http://lacithedog.wordpress.com/2010/07/01/michael-portillo-bradshaws-guide-and-great-british-railway-journeys/)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: BerkshireBugsy on December 21, 2012, 06:06:05 pm
Thanks for posting this. I normally enjoy these programmes but as the first one goes through my home town of Banbury I will be paying particular interest.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on December 21, 2012, 10:56:34 pm
Looking forward to seeing MP on the Severn Valley Railway. He was there just a few days after my most recent visit. I believe he followed in my footsteps as well - visiting the Bridgenorth Cliff Railway.

I also got the chance to fire a locomotive at Bridgenorth SVR, albeit briefly and only whilst stationary. If MP doesn't do that then I can rest happy in the knowledge that I've gone one better than him.  :P ;) ;D


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on December 22, 2012, 07:51:12 am
Is it Bridgnorth or Bridgenorth?

The media handout I have includes an e - but I thought it was wrong and left it out.  If you go to SVR on Google the preamble includes an e but the actual website doesn't.

Having upset someone in Bridgwater by giving them an extra e once I'd be keen not to repeat the faux pas.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: grahame on December 22, 2012, 08:16:31 am
Is it Bridgnorth or Bridgenorth?


Bridgnorth ...

http://www.wellsteedphotography.co.uk/portfolio/railways/attachment/3/


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: swrural on December 22, 2012, 11:31:52 am
My old favourites also include 'Oakhampton' and Barnstable'.  Perhaps a competition for citing wrongly-spelled GW station names could be started - it's Christmas and I only got one (that's 1 ) of the BNM quiz photos.  >:(   


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: grahame on December 22, 2012, 11:48:59 am
My old favourites also include 'Oakhampton' and Barnstable'.  Perhaps a competition for citing wrongly-spelled GW station names could be started - it's Christmas and I only got one (that's 1 ) of the BNM quiz photos.  >:(   

Thanks for that reminder about BNM's prize quiz - http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=11647 - and it really is worthwhile putting in an answer, even if you're only certain on one or two and have had to guess many of the others  ;D

I'm a very bad smpeller as member here know very well ... and I tend not to notice the most horrifabulous corruptions as long as the sense is there.  What really "gets my goat" is being asked to spell the name of the station I'm at when I press the button on the help point to ask a question.   You get a feeling that (a) caller ID should tell the person you're speaking to where you are calling from and (b) the person you're speaking to really should know the stations that he / she is providing customer service for well enough to recognise their names.

"M-E-L-K-S-H-A-M (and I don't suppose you've been there by train yourself to help you provide customer suppot from first hand experience!  :-\ ) "


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: swrural on December 22, 2012, 11:56:25 am
I am so ignorant, I did not know the river that flows through Taunton is the Tone.  How noble of those people to name their river after our ex prime minister.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on December 22, 2012, 12:11:37 pm
Many a day, when I were nobbut a lad, was spent messing about on, in or near the Tone. Some good stretches for chub and pike fishing. Happy days.

Another misspelling you often see is Newton Abbott.

My apologies to the good folk of Bridgnorth for giving them a spurious 'e'. I should know better, having lived in Bridgwater for a few years* - the locals there can get very animated when you insert that extra vowel.



*Don't worry. I managed to escape.  :P


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: swrural on December 22, 2012, 12:36:14 pm
It's the Earl of Bridgewater and his canal wot dun it.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on December 31, 2012, 11:39:47 am
Details for the second week of the latest series are now available

14th Jan Portsmouth to Gomshall
15th Jan Woking to Clapham Junction
16th Jan London Victoria to Abbey Wood
17th Jan London Kings Cross to Peterborough
18th Jan Spalding to Grimsby



Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: eightf48544 on December 31, 2012, 12:48:25 pm
Be interesting to see if doing Dudley to Kidderminster he changes at Smethwick Galton Bridge and has a look at Telford's fine Galton bridge over the BCN New Line. Which unfortunately is now blocked in by the railaway bridge and  newish sewer pipe road tunnel.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 28, 2013, 07:27:18 pm
A reminder that this weeks' series of five episodes feature, in large part, the area covered by this forum.

Michael is travelling from Paddington to the West via Hungerford, Westbury, Salisbury, Yeovil, Taunton, Minehead, Barnstaple, Exeter, Exmouth and finishing in Newton Abbot.

Broadcast on BBC2 6:30pm Mon-Fri and on BBC iPlayer shortly after.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: BerkshireBugsy on January 28, 2013, 07:40:53 pm
I enjoyed it - but then I suspect like a lot of others here I am biased! I am surprised by the jump from Hanwell to Hungerford but then I seem to remember did the reading bit a few series ago.

What with this program, the program about railways in Wales and the Dan Snow series I need a bigger ipad !


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Wilf19 on January 29, 2013, 09:52:54 pm
The household authority has gone out this evening so have been working my way through several episodes of "Great British Railway Journeys". The children gave up and went to bed early in disgust (or was it despair?).

I've just watched Monday evening's Paddington - Warminster episode, I was intrigued by the editing/continuity  that allowed MP to get on a Turbo at Hungerford, then showed him sat on an HST on his way to Westbury. Heading west from Hungerford I didn't think you could do that?

On to the next episode....


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 29, 2013, 09:59:10 pm
then showed him sat on an HST on his way to Westbury. Heading west from Hungerford I didn't think you could do that?

There are three westbound HST services per weekday that call at both Hungerford and Westbury.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 29, 2013, 10:17:45 pm
The household authority has gone out this evening so ....

Lucky you!  :'(


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Ollie on January 30, 2013, 02:55:53 am
then showed him sat on an HST on his way to Westbury. Heading west from Hungerford I didn't think you could do that?

There are three westbound HST services per weekday that call at both Hungerford and Westbury.

Don't believe we have any direct services from Southall to Hungerford though :)

On a different note: Watched Miranda this evening. Showed her at Marylebone attempting to get a Chiltern Railways service to... WICK!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: trainer on January 30, 2013, 08:53:11 am
Watched Miranda this evening. Showed her at Marylebone attempting to get a Chiltern Railways service to... WICK!

AND the Passenger Information Screen showed that same destination with Brora scrolling underneath.  I wonder if this was an edited in from another programme or they had one of Marylebone's especially programmed.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: rogerpatenall on January 30, 2013, 10:33:09 am
Yes - the continuity is interesting, but not really of relevance to 99% of the viewers. Last night he was shown descending the footbridge onto platform 1 at Cary. the camera then panned to show him going up from plats 2/3. At our recent 'Steampipes' film show in London we showed a film (circa 1960's) of the Flying Scotsman train, showing its development over the years. The conclusion was that '. . . and today The Flying Scotsman still leaves at 10am for its high speed run to Edinburgh. . .' accompanied by film of a Blue Pullman.Much appreciated by the audience.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: BerkshireBugsy on January 31, 2013, 07:55:31 pm
Yes - the continuity is interesting, but not really of relevance to 99% of the viewers.

Although I get irritated by the continuity issues I totally agree with this. Having watch the Dan Snow program I found the Portillo programme tired BUT this weeks has been good because its a part of the world I have connections with. I haven't been on the west Somerset railway for many years I would to do the full journey through to minehead


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on February 01, 2013, 05:33:27 am
Learnt something new about my home town Taunton in Wednesday's episode. I never knew the tower of St Mary's Church swayed when the bells pealed.

Also really nice to see Michael visit one of my favourite places in the whole world, The Valley of the Rocks near Lynmouth.

Watching cricket there on a summer's afternoon is my idea of heaven! A more stunning location for a cricket ground you'd struggle to find.

(http://www.mbob.co.uk/bnm/Photobucket_Your%20Bucket//Lynton-and-Lynmouth-Crick-001_zps5fb97ffc.jpg)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/interactive/2013/jan/25/worlds-most-beautiful-cricket-grounds


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: swrural on February 01, 2013, 10:17:14 am
Agreed. It's a bit 'Down your Way' though isn't it?  Nevertheless I always think of those who are housebound, or bedridden; for those it's like a day out.  We love Taunton and i used to attend meetings there and with the journey over the Blackdowns and then down through Corfe with the Tone Valley (river named after our ex-PM)... magnificent..


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on February 01, 2013, 10:25:27 am
Great - someone else who remembers Down Your Way - and with Brian Johnston as presenter there's another link with the cricket.  My father recorded some of them on reel to reel tape when they were broadcast.

Having watched all the series I have been encouraged to visit a few of the places mentioned that I have not been to before.   The problem the programme has is he has covered most of the main lines so he is having to dart about to fill in the missing bits.  For example this week he is travelling to Newton Abbot - which he covered part of in the first series when he went from Swindon to Penzance.

Be interesting to see if there is another series in the future and which parts he will travel to next.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Andrew1939 from West Oxon on February 01, 2013, 02:25:02 pm
Rail enthusiasts have to remember that these programmes have to appeal to a wide audience, most of whom are not enthusiasts. The rail journey is just a means of linking a number of disparate items together. What I enjoy is that although I have visited many of the locations in the past, most items relate to something I have not seen or only vaguely noticed and would probably have not thought anything about. I just smile at the artistic licence taken that sometimes shows Michael getting on one type of train but getting off from a different type. It all adds to the entertainment.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: eightf48544 on February 01, 2013, 05:17:21 pm
One other thing I think I've noticed is lot of wrong line running especialy with aerial shots. I am also fairly sure the 170 arrived wrong line at Whittlesea. Must re-run my recordings.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: trainer on February 01, 2013, 06:23:52 pm
It's not wrong line running: they're running the film backwards for a better effect.  If you have the programme where he visits Tintern Abbey there's a wonderful helicopter zoom-in shot of the ruins.  Only problem is the first moments of the shot clearly (or perhaps not too clearly) all the traffic and walkers are moving backwards!  I re-ran it because I couldn't believe my eyes. The editing is only irritating if you are aware of the tricks and know that there is no such thing as simply 'a train' which is true of most of us in this forum.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: inspector_blakey on February 01, 2013, 08:24:17 pm
I thought I'd spotted the odd instance of trains approaching the camera with tail lights rather than head/marker lights illuminated, glad I wasn't imagining it!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on February 03, 2013, 10:56:09 am
Just been catching up on some old viewing and stumbled across "The Restoration Man" series on Channel 4.  The episode last Thursday (31st Jan) was based on converting the water tower at Settle station into a three storey home.  Also has a bit of the history of the line and an appearance by Michael Portillo.  Will be on 4oD for a while.  Worth a watch.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on December 20, 2013, 05:08:08 pm
After the turkey and tinsel have gone, Michael Portillo will be back with his fifth series of Great British Railway Journeys.

The first week of the series will be broadcast on BBC2 between the 6th and 11th January 2014 in the usual 6.30pm timeslot.  It takes him from Manchester to Chesterfield by way of Birkenhead, Southport, Leyland, Preston, Rochdale, Haworth, Huddersfield and Honley.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on December 29, 2013, 10:16:06 am
The second week of series 5 (starting 13th January) takes him from Euston to Leeds by way of Harrow & Wealdstone, Cheddington, Bletchley, Newport Pagnell, Northampton, Nuneaton, Leicester, Loughborough, Nottingham and Doncaster.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on December 21, 2014, 07:49:56 pm
New Year, new series.  His sixth set of programmes starts on Monday 5th January on BBC TWO.

The first week traces a journey from west to east Scotland.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Four Track, Now! on December 22, 2014, 09:51:52 pm
New Year, new series.  His sixth set of programmes starts on Monday 5th January on BBC TWO.

The first week traces a journey from west to east Scotland.

I shall watch with keen interest!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on January 06, 2015, 04:36:01 pm
Just a reminder this starts again tonight.

Meanwhile next week's journey is a London based one from Amersham to London Bridge.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 06, 2015, 04:49:13 pm
Did it not start yesterday? Or did I dream about the new pre-title sequence and Michael Portillo trying curling?  :P ;) ;D


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on January 06, 2015, 05:26:49 pm
You are, of course, correct.  Still catching up from Christmas on my planner!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Four Track, Now! on January 06, 2015, 09:33:37 pm
You are, of course, correct.  Still catching up from Christmas on my planner!

What, Christmas has happened?


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on January 06, 2015, 09:39:10 pm
Like me, you'll notice it when the bank statement comes....


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: ellendune on January 06, 2015, 09:40:16 pm
You are, of course, correct.  Still catching up from Christmas on my planner!

What, Christmas has happened?

In the some orthodox calenders I believe it is tomorrow so its all right you haven't missed it.  Or you could wait until 19th January and celebrate it with the Armenian Patriarchate of Jerusalem!  


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Timmer on January 06, 2015, 09:41:49 pm

What, Christmas has happened?
Becoming a distant memory with the only reminder the pile of sweets and chocolate sitting in the corner. Same every year!

Back on topic. Always nice to start the year with a Great British Railway Journeys. Gives me inspiration for travelling by train come the summer on these long dark evenings.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Phil on January 07, 2015, 05:23:36 pm
Thanks for the heads-up! These are repeated so often that I hadn't noticed that a new series was starting, and would have missed it otherwise. I love the pace of these programmes.

Must confess that when I saw "Greenock to Larkhall" my immediate thought was that it's one heck of a long journey, right down the length of Britain from north of the border all the way to Bath. But apparently there's another Larkhall, up in Scotland somewhere.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: BerkshireBugsy on January 07, 2015, 05:28:37 pm
I watched the first one of the new series on iplayer today. Am I dreaming or has the production company pushed the boat out and created some new titles?!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 07, 2015, 05:51:30 pm
We shared the same dream BB. See reply #124 in this thread.  ;D


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: BerkshireBugsy on January 07, 2015, 05:56:14 pm
We shared the same dream BB. See reply #124 in this thread.  ;D

Ahh...Oh yes...I'm not sure I really ought to admit to dreaming about Michael Portillo though :)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on January 13, 2015, 09:05:26 pm
Week three of the series (w/c 19th Jan) takes him from Derby to Lindisfarne - via Grantham, birthplace of his former boss Margaret Thatcher.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: macbrains on January 18, 2015, 11:52:47 am
With regard to the new title sequence, does any one have an idea which station Mr Portillo is standing on as the "Horsham" train approaches?  It's possible to catch a distant glimpse of the station nameboard and it's possibly "B.... and W......." but where? Is this all TV trickery?

I've been looking through a railway atlas but my detective work has yielded precisely... nothing!

One of the many experts on this site must know! :o

rgds
Rob


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: grahame on January 18, 2015, 12:08:42 pm
Not seen the sequence, but Boxhill and Westhumble would be logical for "Horsham"


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: macbrains on January 18, 2015, 12:30:23 pm
That's it! :)

Thank you grahame...


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on January 21, 2015, 11:57:28 am
Week four of the series (w/c 26th Jan) goes from Pembroke Dock to Cambridge.  Includes the North Coswold Line and Oxford.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: NickF on January 28, 2015, 04:00:03 pm
Did anyone notice from the episode on the 19th January there was a shot of a train (a 158 I think) approaching Grantham with it's red tail lights on.  On rewinding and watching again I couldnt see a driver so perhaps the clip was being played backwards?
Or were my eyes just playing tricks on me?


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 28, 2015, 04:50:24 pm
Not the first time Portaloo's production team have done that. I seem to remember from an earlier series a DMU coming out of Standedge Tunnel, backwards and driverless.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: eightf48544 on January 28, 2015, 05:26:19 pm
On double track it appears the train is running wrong line!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 28, 2015, 08:33:17 pm
Did anyone notice from the episode on the 19th January there was a shot of a train (a 158 I think) approaching Grantham with it's red tail lights on.

It does happen in real life, too: see http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=12141.msg128464#msg128464  ;) :D ;D


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Cynthia on January 28, 2015, 10:40:50 pm
Week three of the series (w/c 19th Jan) takes him from Derby to Lindisfarne - via Grantham, birthplace of his former boss Margaret Thatcher.

Much to my surprise, Mr. P. didn't get down on his knees to pay homage to Mrs T whilst in Grantham.  Probably didn't want to spoil his snazzy slacks.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Four Track, Now! on February 14, 2015, 11:36:10 pm
Week three of the series (w/c 19th Jan) takes him from Derby to Lindisfarne - via Grantham, birthplace of his former boss Margaret Thatcher.

Much to my surprise, Mr. P. didn't get down on his knees to pay homage to Mrs T whilst in Grantham.  Probably didn't want to spoil his snazzy slacks.

Certainly, he was an ardent fan of the "Iron Lady", and was said by some to have some traits that were more Thatcherite than Thatcher. He coined the phrase "clear blue water", and was tipped for the Tory leadership until unexpectedly losing his seat in the 1997 election. There may indeed have been a bit of quasi-papal dirt kissing, therefore, but off-camera to preserve the BBC's stance of neutrality (during licence fee negotiations at least).

His love of railways can be traced to his early ministerial career, when he claimed to have rescued the Settle and Carlisle route whilst in charge at transport. It is by no means his first foray in the heady world of professional television. In 1961, the star of a Ribena advert was none other than an 8-year-old Michael Portillo Blyth. (I was 5 at the time, and changed my cold beverage of choice to dandelion and burdock, experimenting briefly with Tizer, until I discovered beer. O, to be 13 again!)

TV pays better than politics. It is much easier, and if people don't like what you are doing, you don't have to worry about them voting you out. The bonus of getting to ride around Britain, stay in fine hotels, and eat the best food available locally, then charging the tab to expenses, is common to both professions.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Cynthia on February 15, 2015, 08:42:22 am
Week three of the series (w/c 19th Jan) takes him from Derby to Lindisfarne - via Grantham, birthplace of his former boss Margaret Thatcher.

Much to my surprise, Mr. P. didn't get down on his knees to pay homage to Mrs T whilst in Grantham.  Probably didn't want to spoil his snazzy slacks.

Certainly, he was an ardent fan of the "Iron Lady", and was said by some to have some traits that were more Thatcherite than Thatcher. He coined the phrase "clear blue water", and was tipped for the Tory leadership until unexpectedly losing his seat in the 1997 election. There may indeed have been a bit of quasi-papal dirt kissing, therefore, but off-camera to preserve the BBC's stance of neutrality (during licence fee negotiations at least).

His love of railways can be traced to his early ministerial career, when he claimed to have rescued the Settle and Carlisle route whilst in charge at transport. It is by no means his first foray in the heady world of professional television. In 1961, the star of a Ribena advert was none other than an 8-year-old Michael Portillo Blyth.

TV pays better than politics. It is much easier, and if people don't like what you are doing, you don't have to worry about them voting you out. The bonus of getting to ride around Britain, stay in fine hotels, and eat the best food available locally, then charging the tab to expenses, is common to both professions.

If there was a 'Like Very Much' button I would have pressed that!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on September 08, 2015, 12:18:36 pm
Having not seen any reports of Michael Portillo been seen out and about filming this summer, I emailed his website to ask if there was another series in the making.

It seems he has been very busy!

Quote
This summer I am working on the seventh series of Great British Railway Journeys, the fourth of Great Continental Railway Journeys and the first of Great American Railroad Journeys, all of which will be shown on BBC 2 between November 2015 and February 2016.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on December 18, 2015, 02:17:28 pm
The seventh series begins at 18:30 on the 4th January 2016 on BBC Two.

Mr Portillo (and his blazer) sets out from Carlisle and during the first week passes through Penrith, Carnforth, Windemere, Preston, Swinton, St Helens, Knutsford and Macclesfield.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on December 31, 2015, 07:55:57 am
Week two (starting 11th January 2016) goes from Dover to Porthcurno via Lewes, Newhaven, Worthing, Littlehampton, Beaulieu, Lymington Town, Exmouth and the Royal Albert Bridge.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: TaplowGreen on December 31, 2015, 09:20:46 am
Michael Portillo's still doing it?

I heard they'd asked Bignosemac to take over, but there were some questions over the validity of his tickets?  ;)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on December 31, 2015, 09:22:11 am
Not sure Bignosemac would be at home in the sartorial jackets...


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on December 31, 2015, 09:43:14 am
I quite like the pastel coloured jackets.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on December 31, 2015, 03:16:15 pm
I quite like the pastel coloured jackets.

I'm not averse to them - just can't see me wearing one personally.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: TaplowGreen on December 31, 2015, 03:56:18 pm
I quite like the pastel coloured jackets.

I'm not averse to them - just can't see me wearing one personally.

How about a nice "GWR green" number? (......fitted the next time you go in for maintenance?)  :)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on December 31, 2015, 04:51:49 pm
To rework a Tony Hancock joke (and just to beat Chris from Nailsea saying it first) the size jacket I'd need would solve the unemployment problem in the tailoring industry.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 31, 2015, 05:04:18 pm
I understand that, in tailoring terms, 'bobm' means 'blazer on bloke massive'.  ;) :D ;D


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Four Track, Now! on January 04, 2016, 09:28:29 pm
I quite like the pastel coloured jackets.

But what is the gin ration?


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on January 14, 2016, 11:07:08 am
Week three of the current series starting on 18th January 2016 takes him from Birmingham to Dartmoor (I think - info taken from the Radio Times but Digiguide has them a week later)

On the way he passes through Kidderminster, Cheltenham, Gloucester, Stroud, Bath, Bristol, Nailsea and the Somerset Levels.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on January 15, 2016, 11:33:44 am
..and week 4 (25th to 29th Jan) Ashford (Kent) to Henley on Thames via Sevenoaks, East Grinstead, Guildford, Woking, Wisley, Brooklands, Walton on Thames, Hampton Court, Teddington and Egham


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Post by: grahame on January 15, 2016, 12:42:15 pm
..and week 4 (25th to 29th Jan) Ashford (Kent) to Henley on Thames via Sevenoaks, East Grinstead, Guildford, Woking, Wisley, Brooklands, Walton on Thames, Hampton Court, Teddington and Egham

So that's an "any permitted" ticket?   ;D


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on January 15, 2016, 12:44:44 pm
No but is all Network area so you could get a discount with a Network Rail card if travelling after 10 am on a weekday!   ;D


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Andrew1939 from West Oxon on January 15, 2016, 02:34:11 pm
I believe he will also shown visiting the site of the Battle of Sedgemoor at Weston Zoyland and St. Marys Church in Bridgwater (unless this item has been edited out since recording last summer).


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 15, 2016, 04:42:34 pm
I believe he will also shown visiting the site of the Battle of Sedgemoor at Weston Zoyland and St. Marys Church in Bridgwater (unless this item has been edited out since recording last summer).

But for one of the Duke of Monmouth's men having an itchy trigger finger the lineage of the monarchy may have been very different. The rebels darn near crept up on the king's troops in the dead of night. Then, as the rebels aporoached Bussex Rhine, one of them let off his musket losing the element of surprise. The rebels were routed in the subsequent battle.

Mr Portillo should have visited the Tudor Tavern in Taunton. Here the Duke of Monmouth held his Privy Council and he was declared the rightful heir before the ill fated battle. Then MP should have visited Taunton Castle. Many of the captured rebels were tried here by Judge Jefferies in what became known as the Bloody Assizes. The lucky ones were transported. Those not so lucky were burned, beheaded; or hanged, drawn and quartered.

Because of the rebellion, and the fact so many of the rebels came from Somerset, no subsequent reigning monarch visited Taunton until QE2 in the early 1980s. Queen Victoria is said to have drawn the blinds whenever she passed through Bridgwater and Taunton by train. Long memories those nobs.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: TaplowGreen on January 15, 2016, 07:02:22 pm
I believe he will also shown visiting the site of the Battle of Sedgemoor at Weston Zoyland and St. Marys Church in Bridgwater (unless this item has been edited out since recording last summer).

But for one of the Duke of Monmouth's men having an itchy trigger finger the lineage of the monarchy may have been very different. The rebels darn near crept up on the king's troops in the dead of night. Then, as the rebels aporoached Bussex Rhine, one of them let off his musket losing the element of surprise. The rebels were routed in the subsequent battle.

Mr Portillo should have visited the Tudor Tavern in Taunton. Here the Duke of Monmouth held his Privy Council and he was declared the rightful heir before the ill fated battle. Then MP should have visited Taunton Castle. Many of the captured rebels were tried here by Judge Jefferies in what became known as the Bloody Assizes. The lucky ones were transported. Those not so lucky were burned, beheaded; or hanged, drawn and quartered.

Because of the rebellion, and the fact so many of the rebels came from Somerset, no subsequent reigning monarch visited Taunton until QE2 in the early 1980s. Queen Victoria is said to have drawn the blinds whenever she passed through Bridgwater and Taunton by train. Long memories those nobs.

Rather surprising that the Royal Family have been so hostile to the inhabitants of Somerset in the past, given that both have such a long & proud history of inbreeding in common!  ;D


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: chuffed on January 15, 2016, 07:31:06 pm
 Alas,I fear that even the Blessed Saint Michael of Peccadillo may have had trouble getting through the Paddington gateline with an F4 restriction !


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 15, 2016, 07:37:10 pm
I'll ignore that.  ::)

Having  been raised in that part of Somerset, the Battle of Sedgemoor and the wider Monmouth rebellion is something I've read extensively about. A fascinating period of British history.

Related to that period is one of my favourite novels. Lorna Do one. Written in the 19th century but set in the period immediately after the Battle of Sedgemoor. It's referred to as a 'Romance of Exmoor' but it's certainly more than just Jane Austen with a wesscundry burr.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: chuffed on January 15, 2016, 07:47:47 pm
Thought you might put Your 'Oare' in.....


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Phil on January 15, 2016, 08:26:30 pm
Lorna Do one. 

Love it! Poor old Lorna, always the scapegoat.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Four Track, Now! on January 15, 2016, 09:28:33 pm
Not quite read it yet, but I have visited the church. My daughter has by now stopped telling me "Dad, it's not Laura Dune!".


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 15, 2016, 10:05:40 pm
Lorna Do one. 

Love it! Poor old Lorna, always the scapegoat.

Oops. New phone and should have checked. Old phone went swimming. I of course meant Lorna Doone.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 15, 2016, 10:13:33 pm
Thought you might put Your 'Oare' in.....

Nice one! A pun lost on many I suspect.

Been there and seen the layout. Carver really should have got a fatal shot in. Dramatic licence from R.D. Blackmore.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Pb_devon on January 16, 2016, 11:50:06 am
If you liked last nights episode, especially the Royal Albert Bridge section, and thought the handsome 'expert' was erudite and charming, then please post your glowing comments here.  If otherwise, then email Mr P that his production team should be more selective in who they ask to appear.
 ;) ;D


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: trainer on January 16, 2016, 10:28:15 pm
I genuflect in respect for the post immediately above from Pb_devon before making my own observation on this weeks programmes.  ;D

I noted that while on the Southern Railways South Coast line from Brighton a GWR train appeared a few times.  I don't know if they had been warned, but a 3 coach 158 was turned out, which is a respectable train for such a long journey.  I believe it is not unknown for a lowly 150 to trundle its way all the way from Great Malvern to Brighton, perhaps not reflecting the image wanted for long distance travel.  I know no-one in their right mind would go all the way (but a train buff might!) but long distances are covered by individuals, I'm sure.

The usual reversing of the film, and expansion of the trains from between 2 and 8 coaches between shots (eg over the Tamar Bridge) peppered the most informative programmes.  If they are for dramatic effect it was certainly working in my house as I dramatically announced the types of units in each shot.  Fortunately, there was no-one to listen.

Looking forward to next week.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 16, 2016, 11:33:30 pm
A three car 158 is the norm to/from Brighton with GWR.

The evening return can be a very busy service as it fulfills the role of a commuter service on the West Coastway. Somewhat to the detriment of longer distance passengers. I once made the mistake of turning up at Brighton just a few minutes before departure, on a journey to Bristol. I had to stand as far as Chichester.

Subsequent use of the service has been with a seat reservation.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: grahame on January 17, 2016, 07:47:12 am
A three car 158 is the norm to/from Brighton with GWR.

The evening return can be a very busy service as it fulfills the role of a commuter service on the West Coastway. Somewhat to the detriment of longer distance passengers. I once made the mistake of turning up at Brighton just a few minutes before departure, on a journey to Bristol. I had to stand as far as Chichester.

Subsequent use of the service has been with a seat reservation.

The morning run into Brighton - around 7 a.m. from Portsmouth - is pretty busy too, I understand (reports would be welcome). It has always struck me as a bit ironic that a GWR diesel train is being used in the peak to provide an extra peak commuter service on a frequent-service electric railway way beyond the normal franchise "territory".   The one Monday to Friday though service from the heart of GW territory to Brighton, and the two through services back from Brighton to GW territory, are greatly loved trains (if not as crowded all the way as the peak ones / Brighton end) and much has been argued that they encourage traffic to make this journey on rail that would not otherwise use rail if it had to change somewhere in the Solent area.  On that basis, I suppose, a neat matching up of needs - but a bit of an interesting oddball train for timetabling through some places like Southampton as an "extra".


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 17, 2016, 10:29:50 pm
I'll ignore that.  ::)

You didn't.  You 'liked' it.  And so did I.  ;) :D ;D

Having been raised in that part of Somerset, the Battle of Sedgemoor and the wider Monmouth rebellion is something I've read extensively about. A fascinating period of British history.

I agree - and recommend 'Monmouth's Rebels - The Road To Sedgemoor 1685' by Peter Earle (ISBN 0 297 77384 4) as a good introduction to the subject.  ;)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 17, 2016, 11:25:08 pm
I'll ignore that.  ::)

You didn't.  You 'liked' it.  And so did I.  ;) :D ;D

I was actually referring to the preceding post from TG. I posted around the same time as chuffed but was actually responding to TG's rather off colour remark about the parentage of Somerset folk. Hence the rolling eyes.

Just couldn't be bothered to go back and edit my post to include a quote of TG.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 17, 2016, 11:27:33 pm
Oh, sorry.  ::)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: chuffed on January 18, 2016, 07:04:43 pm
Not sure what was more :o on tonights episode....Mr P's organ or his hairy legs ! We have to thank Mr William and Sir Rowland Hill for the  unforgettable pairing of sights for sore eyes.
Given the previous clip about the production of the Acme Thunderer, I was surprised he didn't pick up on John Knox's thunderous  comment on the pipe organ as 'a kist o' whistles !' ;D
Think the programme could be summarised as Shrill, Hill, Hill and pill !


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Western Pathfinder on January 18, 2016, 10:36:19 pm
Not sure what was more :o on tonights episode....Mr P's organ or his hairy legs ! We have to thank Mr William and Sir Rowland Hill for the  unforgettable pairing of sights for sore eyes.
Given the previous clip about the production of the Acme Thunderer, I was surprised he didn't pick up on John Knox's thunderous  comment on the pipe organ as 'a kist o' whistles !' ;D
Think the programme could be summarised as Shrill, Hill, Hill and pill !
What about Cuthbert Dibble and Grub .


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Four Track, Now! on January 22, 2016, 11:11:10 pm
Just catching up and have watched the episode with Bristol and Avonmouth.

Did Mr P call it "Nailsea and Blackwell"?


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: ellendune on January 23, 2016, 09:07:24 am
Did Mr P call it "Nailsea and Blackwell"?

He did indeed


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 25, 2016, 12:02:47 am
Alerted to the incident by my colleague bobm (I unfortunately missed watching the live programme, as I was working), my complaint about that particular transgression is on its way to the BBC!  :o ::) >:( >:(


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 25, 2016, 12:10:25 am
No problems with Mr P pronouncing the name of my home town*. Even giving viewers an explanation of the etymology.



*Where I was raised, not where I currently reside. Although he could have taken a quick detour from Avonmouth to El Dub. We do have a Roman Villa worth visiting. Slap bang in the middle of a post war housing estate. And an Iron Age hill fort overlooking said estate.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on January 28, 2016, 11:11:10 am
Just in case you thought your Sky box had missed last night's episode in error, it seems it was dropped at the last minute.  The BBC have not said why or when it will be shown.   Speculation on other forums suggests, as Mr Portillo was visiting a crematorium, it would sit uneasily with the following programme on World Holocaust Day while others said it might be due to him visiting Walton on Thames where Milly Dowler came from and who was in the news yesterday.

Some sources have the programme being shown tonight - so, if true, I suspect the former reason.

What happens about fitting in the rest of the episodes remains to be seen.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: chrisr_75 on January 28, 2016, 11:47:34 am
Great American Railroad Journeys starting on Monday 1st, for anyone who hadn't noticed.

Did anyone else pick up on the truly dreadful overdubbing of a steam loco sound (the producers chose to use the sound of a steam loco at speed when the pictures showed one slowly pulling away from a station) when MP was visiting the Bluebell railway a couple of days ago?!  ::)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Rhydgaled on January 28, 2016, 12:15:23 pm
Did anyone else pick up on the truly dreadful overdubbing of a steam loco sound (the producers chose to use the sound of a steam loco at speed when the pictures showed one slowly pulling away from a station) when MP was visiting the Bluebell railway a couple of days ago?!  ::)
I didn't notice that, but they seemed to be re-using the same (or very similar) shot(s) of a class 455 or 313 which I don't think are used on the routes he was travelling, although I could easily be wrong on that.

On the steam section, I was paying more attention to the fact there seemed to be two drivers (they referred to the woman as the driver, but rather than a fireman I thought I recognised the second member of staff on the footplate from a programme I watched frequently on video years ago, where he was described as a fully-qualified driver himself).


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: chrisr_75 on January 28, 2016, 12:22:09 pm
On the steam section, I was paying more attention to the fact there seemed to be two drivers (they referred to the woman as the driver, but rather than a fireman I thought I recognised the second member of staff on the footplate from a programme I watched frequently on video years ago, where he was described as a fully-qualified driver himself).

Ha, it wasn't just me who recognised him from elsewhere then?! I guess he must be the Bluebell Railways equivalent of a driver manager, who would typically accompany any visitors on the footplate such as MP.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: paul7755 on January 28, 2016, 01:06:35 pm
Some sources have the programme being shown tonight - so, if true, I suspect the former reason.

What happens about fitting in the rest of the episodes remains to be seen.

The online BBC schedule now shows two programmes in succession on Friday, 1830 and 1900.

Paul


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Timmer on January 28, 2016, 05:26:58 pm
Just in case you thought your Sky box had missed last night's episode in error, it seems it was dropped at the last minute.  The BBC have not said why or when it will be shown.   Speculation on other forums suggests, as Mr Portillo was visiting a crematorium, it would sit uneasily with the following programme on World Holocaust Day while others said it might be due to him visiting Walton on Thames where Milly Dowler came from and who was in the news yesterday.
I did at first think my Sky box had failed but a little digging on another rail forum soon absolved my Sky box of all blame.

I agree that in all likelihood the decision to pull yesterday's episode was linked to World Holocaust Day.

If you were being critical, it was unfortunate that this was missed when compiling episodes and when they were due to air but there is so much to be aware of these days.

Agreed, the dubbing of a different steam engine sound on Tuesday's episode over the original sounded awful and should not have been done IMHO.

Other than that, Great British Railway Journeys is a truly wonderful program brilliantly produced. Long may it continue.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: trainer on January 28, 2016, 10:39:07 pm
Agreed, the dubbing of a different steam engine sound on Tuesday's episode over the original sounded awful and should not have been done IMHO.

Other than that, Great British Railway Journeys is a truly wonderful program brilliantly produced. Long may it continue.

The dubbing of out-of-sync steam engine sounds at the Bluebell Rly was indeed distracting for those of us of a pedantic disposition who like our train sounds to be authentic.  What I think happened was that as the train commenced it's departure from the platform there were two sound tracks.  Under the annoying faster beat, I clearly heard the slow piston sounds correctly synchronised, apparently from the actual event.  However, the following shot of the train moving at greater speed had the correct sound.  This was overlapped on to the first shot in an attempt to give a smoother transition than a sudden jump in the soundtrack would have been had only the 'natural' sounds been used.

Pedant?  Moi?  ;D

(I agree an excellent series with excellent ideas for days out.)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: BBM on January 30, 2016, 11:31:01 am
Good to see yet another TV appearance by Twyford's very own Norman Topsom MBE last night!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: phile on January 30, 2016, 02:44:32 pm
Viewers in Wales did not see the re-arranged 1900 episode last night due to BBC2 Wales covering pre-arranged Live Rugby.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: phile on January 30, 2016, 07:28:10 pm
Shown at 1830 Saturday after a re-hash of programmes.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Chris125 on January 31, 2016, 04:52:13 pm
On the steam section, I was paying more attention to the fact there seemed to be two drivers (they referred to the woman as the driver, but rather than a fireman I thought I recognised the second member of staff on the footplate from a programme I watched frequently on video years ago, where he was described as a fully-qualified driver himself).

It was Clive Groome who is well known for his footplate courses, firing for one of his daughters who is now a driver.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on December 19, 2016, 10:46:52 am
After the tinsel and turkey, Michael Portillo will be back on January 2nd with a new series of Great British Railway Journeys.

The first week is London to Edinburgh - including the Flying Scotsman,

It is on BBC Two in the usual 18.30 slot.

Details of the following week's subjects have not been advertised yet.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Rob on the hill on December 19, 2016, 11:19:46 am
Slightly off topic, but Michael Portillo is appearing at the Wyvern Theatre, Swindon on 17th February 2017.
https://swindontheatres.co.uk/Online/default.asp?doWork::WScontent::loadArticle=Load&BOparam::WScontent::loadArticle::article_id=4C26A80E-CFC3-4AB2-A2FE-4573829AEB81


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on December 19, 2016, 11:20:54 am
He is indeed - I booked a ticket 20 minutes ago!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Western Pathfinder on December 19, 2016, 08:07:26 pm
And I've just booked mine I look forward to seeing you there Sir Bob.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 19, 2016, 08:22:35 pm
Hold on a minute - bobm got an ACoRP award, not a knighthood!  :o ::) ;D



Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Western Pathfinder on December 19, 2016, 08:27:12 pm
Hold on a minute - bobm got an ACoRP award, not a knighthood!  :o ::) ;D

Wait and see what happens in the new year ! ;D




Edit note: Quote marks fixed, for clarity. CfN.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on December 19, 2016, 09:56:28 pm
Hold on a minute - bobm got an ACoRP award, not a knighthood!  :o ::) ;D

Caused much amusement.  My partner wanted a pet name for me and I suggested Sir. Hasn't found universal favour!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Four Track, Now! on December 19, 2016, 11:25:25 pm
My partner wanted a pet name for me too.

Regards,

Rover.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on February 20, 2017, 05:47:40 pm
Slightly off topic, but Michael Portillo is appearing at the Wyvern Theatre, Swindon on 17th February 2017.
https://swindontheatres.co.uk/Online/default.asp?doWork::WScontent::loadArticle=Load&BOparam::WScontent::loadArticle::article_id=4C26A80E-CFC3-4AB2-A2FE-4573829AEB81

A few days late - but just a note to say it was an enjoyable evening.  The balance probably tipped, understandably, in favour of his political past rather than the railway programmes.  However he has a good entertaining speaking style and I learned a few things.

Also had the opportunity to speak to him beforehand while he was signing books and there will be another series of Great British Railway Journeys next January although he, mysteriously, added "It might be slightly less Victorian".

Good to meet member Western Pathfinder too.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Western Pathfinder on February 20, 2017, 06:59:42 pm
Likewise Sir Bob  ;D


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Four Track, Now! on March 01, 2017, 06:23:13 pm
Presumably he won't be doing Edge Hill to Liverpool Lime Street just now?


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Pb_devon on July 13, 2017, 07:55:26 am
With apologies for being a bit late (feeble excuse...I've been on holiday).
Mr P was in Plymouth filming on 28 June, specifically in Devonport Dockyard. I was asked if I was available for interview, but then stood down. Sob, oh the rejection.  However my spirits were greatly lifted when on the day of filming it was tipping it down, and I was at home nice and dry!!  ;D ;D


Edit: I spoke too soon. I'm now told the filming that day was cancelled.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Western Pathfinder on September 13, 2017, 04:08:57 pm
Looks like we are getting some more from Mr P this year after all !. ;D
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2017/great-indian-railway-journeys .


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: ChrisB on September 13, 2017, 04:36:27 pm
Sure its not Spring 2018 transmission?


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: didcotdean on September 13, 2017, 05:08:16 pm
Towards the end of the Press release it says:
Quote
It is a Boundless (part of FremantleMedia UK) production for BBC Two and will air Autumn 2017
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Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on November 05, 2017, 10:23:26 am
From the letters page of the latest Radio Times

(http://www.mbob.co.uk/rforum/rtport.jpg)


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Four Track, Now! on November 05, 2017, 05:40:34 pm
Having spent time in Shepton Mallett prison, I shall watch with interest. I believe it has the longest continuous wall in Europe. I found three bishops outside it, looking for the gate.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on November 05, 2017, 08:53:54 pm
Shepton Mallet prison is supposedly being redeveloped into housing. Along with a prisons museum and community space.

There is though little evidence of progress toward this since the last prison in Somerset closed in 2013.



Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Rob on the hill on November 10, 2017, 10:59:42 am
Shepton Mallet prison tours are run by Jailhouse Tours, who also operate tours at Gloucester and Shrewsbury prisons. I visited Gloucester prison earlier in the year, and found it to be most interesting.

https://www.jailhousetours.com/


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Four Track, Now! on November 10, 2017, 07:47:22 pm
Shepton Mallet prison tours are run by Jailhouse Tours, who also operate tours at Gloucester and Shrewsbury prisons. I visited Gloucester prison earlier in the year, and found it to be most interesting.

https://www.jailhousetours.com/

I am also a veteran of HMPs Bristol, Guys Marsh, Dartmoor, Eastwood Park (which scared me more than any of the others), Long Lartin, Littlehey, and others. I should have mentioned that I always had a "get out of jail free" card at the very least.

It's even more interesting when it is still actually a prison. I could spout anecdotes to cover every emotion, but won't do online. Ask me next time you see me.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: TaplowGreen on November 10, 2017, 10:01:29 pm
I played rugby against Aylesbury Athletic a few times....it was actually HMYOI Aylesbury  (and no, they didn't play any away matches!) Team was inmates, mostly under 21s with a few Screws playing & coaching.....we played on a pitch in the prison grounds.....if you ever want to put youngsters off a life of crime, take them there for a day or two. One of the most thought provoking & sobering experiences I ever had....not often you meet 19 year olds doing a 15 stretch, never mind scrummaging against them!


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on December 13, 2017, 08:32:55 pm
After the last of the turkey has been served up as curry but before the decorations come down, Michael Portillo returns with a new series of Great British Railway Journeys on 2nd January 2018.

Quote from: Digiguide
Great British Railway Journeys
On: BBC 2 HD (102)   
Date: Tuesday 2nd January 2018
Time: 18:30 to 19:00 (30 minutes long)

Cromer to Cambridge.
Michael Portillo fast tracks to the early 20th century to embark on a new series of railway journeys through Edwardian Britain. His "new" guide book, published over a hundred years ago, unlocks Britain's railways at their zenith, when some 20,000 miles of track reached into every corner of the country. His first journey follows in the footsteps of the new monarch for the new century, King Edward VII, from the grand estates of Norfolk to a bivouac on Brownsea Island. Michael takes a pot shot at the sport of kings at a country estate, where the king dallied with his mistress. He learns the ropes aboard an Edwardian wherry on the Norfolk Broads and joins variety performers to tap dance on Cromer Pier. In Cambridge, he investigates the student days of the young Prince of Wales and the novelist EM Forster.
(Stereo, Widescreen, High Definition, Subtitles, Audio Described, 2010, 4 Star)



Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: chuffed on January 10, 2018, 04:24:53 pm
ALERT Mr Portaloo is in Clevedon tonight hearing the Christie pipe organ in the Curzon cinema 6.30pm BBC 2


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: patch38 on January 10, 2018, 05:14:24 pm
I spent 10 minutes during the first episode trying to adjust my television.

Turns out his jacket is supposed to look like that...


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Surrey 455 on January 16, 2018, 09:53:40 pm
Every episode of Great British Railway Journeys in a nutshell!

https://twitter.com/davidclewis/status/952980642886799361



Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on January 16, 2018, 10:21:00 pm
One of the responses to that tweet:

"... done up like Rupert Bear on acid."

;D ;D :D


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: Rob on the hill on March 20, 2018, 06:29:31 pm
New series from Mr P tonight BBC 2 at 8pm - Great Indian Railway Journeys. Not British railway journeys, but I'm sure we'll get a mention...
Wonder if he's got any new outfits.. :D

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09x4jhh/episodes/guide


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: old original on March 20, 2018, 08:31:46 pm
Definitely the same seat covers as Truronian and Western Greyhound....


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bignosemac on March 20, 2018, 09:49:48 pm
Definitely the same seat covers as Truronian and Western Greyhound....


I knew I'd seen a similar moquette before on Mr P's train from Amritsar. Was racking my brain trying to remember where. I thought it was on a UK train, but yes, Western Greyhound had something fairly similar.



Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: bobm on June 12, 2018, 05:41:32 pm
There is a piece in the latest issue of the Radio Times outlining Michael Portillo's planned series for 2019.  As well as new episodes of Great British Railway Journeys and Great American Railroad Journeys there is a trip down under with Mr Portillo taking a 1913 edition of Bradshaw's Handbook to the Chief Cities of the World to produce Great Australian Railway Journeys.


Title: Re: Great British Railway Journeys - Michael Portillo's television series
Post by: chuffed on June 12, 2018, 06:33:44 pm
After todays summat of a summit I won't be putting any money on Great North Korean Rail Journeys any time soon ! ???



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