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Title: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Lee on September 26, 2007, 15:15:27
The latest proposals to run passenger trains along the Camel Trail have hit the buffers after failing to impress Bodmin councillors.The town council has rejected the ^9 million plan by the Bodmin and Wenford Railway Company which wants to extend the line for trains to run to Wadebridge (link below.)
http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=144125&command=displayContent&sourceNode=232450&contentPK=18490064&folderPk=108202&pNodeId=251466

Members are particularly concerned after studying plans that show the Camel Trail would be reduced in width to 2.5 metres to allow a new line to be built.

There would be enough width for two cyclists and two pedestrians to use the trail in the same direction , but councillors say this would be too narrow for oncoming users.

They also feel that cycling and walking are more environmentally friendly than trains.

Cllr Linda Spear said the Bodmin and Wenford Railway was a wonderful tourist attraction , but the Camel Trail was an even better one.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: vacman on September 27, 2007, 21:08:11

They also feel that cycling and walking are more environmentally friendly than trains.

and trains are more environmentally friendly than the congested roads in the are but thick councillors who sit in their offices all day don't care about that.
Another example of Sustrans screwing things up for railways.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Andy on September 29, 2007, 10:15:16
It seems to me that the only way forward for the Bodmin & Wenford now is to acquire a strip of land alongside the existing trackbed so that the ramblers/riders/cyclists have sufficient space alongside the relaid track to quell the opposition. What is so frustrating is that the stretch from Boscarne to Wadebridge amounts to less than 5 miles whereas the trail network extends for over 17 miles to Padstow, Wenford and into Bodmin. Then, of course, there is the Atlantic coast path as well.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Lee on December 05, 2007, 11:12:39
A decision by North Cornwall District Council's regeneration committee to support the railway application has been carried by one vote (link below.)
http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=144125&command=displayContent&sourceNode=232450&contentPK=19159220&folderPk=108202&pNodeId=251466

Bodmin town mayor Michelle Griffiths , said: "Bodmin Town Council has discussed this at three separate meetings and has resolved not to support the project, in principle, until a full environmental impact survey is carried out. I also feel that consultation about these proposals should go wider than the local community as it is a popular tourist attraction for people all over the country."

However Wadebridge town mayor Carole Buchanan believes that the project is a positive step forward for the area. She said: "I think the Railtrail is an excellent idea. The railway is part of Wadebridge's history."


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Andy on December 05, 2007, 12:47:07
very happy to read that NCDC has voiced its support for this - albeit by the narrowest of margins.  I do feel, though,that the B&W should:
a) continue to offer every possible sop to the trail lobby by seeking further enhancements to the plan so that the trail is protected.
b) focus primarily on the extension to Grogley for the time being so that they can demonstrate their sensitivity to the other users and capacity to safeguard the trail.


 


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Btline on December 14, 2007, 13:43:10
Why was the trackbed preserved as a footpaath?

To allow a cheap and easy way tpo restore the railway!

What are they playing at- don't they see that the footpath was only tempory?


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: smokey on October 21, 2008, 13:49:06
I just wonder if Any Coffee Shop members live in Bodmin or North Cornwall, because it's an unpleasant fact that Bodmin Parkway Station Carpark is often FULL by 09.00 Monday-Fridays, not very good for a Parkway Station.

Cars start to be left on the approach road when the car Park is Full, unlike Tivvy or Bristol Parkway Bodmin is Free parking, part of the deal (with CCC) who put money into the Parkway project.

Wonder what FGW plan to do about it?

Wishful thinking but for me the B&W should have direct connection onto the Main line and at Peak Hours FGW trains should serve Bodmin General, might reduce some parking at Parkway.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Lee on October 21, 2008, 15:21:37
Hope you dont mind, smokey, but I've moved this topic to Plymouth and Cornwall.

Wishful thinking but for me the B&W should have direct connection onto the Main line and at Peak Hours FGW trains should serve Bodmin General, might reduce some parking at Parkway.

I've often wondered whether any studies along these lines have been conducted. Or are we in "too complicated" territory?


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Chris2 on October 21, 2008, 16:16:04
Wishful thinking but for me the B&W should have direct connection onto the Main line and at Peak Hours FGW trains should serve Bodmin General, might reduce some parking at Parkway.

The car park is chaos in the evening when trying to leave, there have been rumours about starting to charge for parking. Also people use Bodmin Parkway as somewhere to leave there car during the day. It is quite common to see two cars arrive in the morning, the driver of one car gets into another car and leaves it there for the day. If they started charging for car parking and reinbursing on train tickets, this is used in the southeastern region of the uk, it seemed to work well at Canterbury East where if I remember correctly it was ^6.50 for a days parking without a rail ticket, but if you caught the train you got ^4.50 back; this would help ease the situation as some people would not leave there car at the station while on holiday and stop the people that leave it there to go to work. The ticket prices might not need to be this high for it to work. The cars also park in the bus turning bay, but it is very rare that you see cars with penalty notices at Bodmin, for parking in unsafe spaces.

The Bodmin and Wenford railway were proposing to extend the line to Wadebridge a couple of years ago, I don't know what happened to these plans as it included services in the morning to connect with up and down peak services in the morning and evening.

All the official car park spaces were full by 0800 last Thursday and Friday.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Andy on October 21, 2008, 17:12:57
Even without through trains, a Bodmin General-Bodmin Parkway* shuttle, partly funded by CCC (why not - if they can subsidise the car park, they can subsidise a train) or subsidised by car park receipts (let's have the car pay for the train for once!) would seem like a possible idea.

*It'll always be Bodmin Road to me.



Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on October 21, 2008, 20:06:56
Further information on the Bodmin - Wadebridge plans (and their possible scuppering!) is at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=685.0  ;)


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on January 22, 2010, 23:22:04
From thisiscornwall (http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/homepagenews/Network-trains-run-centre/article-1728769-detail/article.html):

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National network passenger trains could be running to the centre of Bodmin for the first time in more than three decades.

Cornwall Council is to look into the feasibility of National Rail operating scheduled services from Bodmin Parkway to Bodmin General as part of its proposals to create a new administrative centre in the town. If negotiations are successful, councillors say it would be a huge boost to the regeneration of Bodmin and its economy.

Leisure steam engines presently use the track, but network passenger services to Bodmin General have not been seen since 1967 when branch line trains were axed by Dr Beeching. Diesel and steam locomotives would share the track.

Last week, Cornwall Council's Cabinet agreed to fund a ^200,000 business case for re-locating local government staff to work from a new purpose-built building in Bodmin.

At the same time, senior officers agreed to explore the possibility of re-opening the branch line with negotiations taking place with National Rail and present track operators the Bodmin and Wenford Steam Railway. If scheduled passenger services run again to the centre, the benefits to Bodmin would be huge, say councillors.

Truro East councillor Bert Biscoe congratulated the council for investing in Bodmin and said an application to the Department of Transport to re-open the branch line was needed. "To re-open the rail connection into Bodmin so that we have proper public transport provision into the town would be a fantastic bonus.''

Bodmin East councillor Lance Kennedy hopes to hold talks with the steam railway company and Network Rail very soon. "The potential for Bodmin is massive. We will be looking at it very seriously, even though it may take quite a few years to instigate. It will provide a green transport system for people coming in and out of Bodmin and shows again that the council is at last considering the people of East Cornwall.''

Fellow Bodmin Cornwall councillor Ann Kerridge said the allocation of ^200,000 to provide a feasibility study into creating a new administrative centre for Bodmin was an important first step, and there were a number of council-owned sites in the town which could be re-developed.

"Opening the line to passengers again is an interesting idea which will benefit a great many people, including council staff who will be able to travel by train instead of by car.''

Bodmin and Wenford Railway currently owns the track between the two stations.

General manager Roger Jones said although network passenger trains had not run since 1967, network freight trains had used it as far as Wenford up until 1983.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: james666 on January 23, 2010, 00:32:36
I wonder if this would advance the dream of relaying the track between Boscarne Junction and Wadebridge.  Has anyone heard any news of the RailTrail project recently?


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: John R on January 23, 2010, 09:49:34
Having endured a couple of hours in Padstow last summer, it occurred to me what a shame the line from Bodmin closed. It would be really useful now to bring the thousands of people who for some unfathomable reason descend on the town.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Andy on January 23, 2010, 09:58:01
I couldn't agree with you more, John R.  Apparently, a line survey from Boscarne to Wadebridge is being conducted (heard on grapevine), so it seems that the return to Wadebridge is still very much on the agenda.

One would think that setting up a contract with the B&W to provide a year-round scheduled shuttle service between General and Parkway stations would be the best way to go.  This could be operated by heritage dmus and dovetail with the "heritage" timetable.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: eightf48544 on January 23, 2010, 12:39:19
Not wishing to put a damper on this idea, I think getting the safety case for a regular public service run by the B and W might prove to be an expensive obstacle.

Unless it's run under light rail conditons with speed restricted to 25 mph then the track will need  upgrading to NR standards.

Also there will be need for a safety case for the heritage DMUs. I think there's a post somewhere else where it was mentioned that some of the community rail groups had looked into running heritage railcars on some of the other branches and the safety cases were definitely one of the problems.

Also it's a huge task for a group run mainly by volunteers to run a regular train service  everyday throughout the year. You would need a paid manager, drivers, possibly guards and maintenance staff to keep the railway running. You couldn't rely on getting enough volunteers to underatke such a committment. 

Basically any regular service would, in practise have to be run by the local TOC holding the current franchise for Bodmin Road.

Unless you can persuade an open access operator to run it, but they'd want to go to Plymouth/Bristol if not London with through trains to get the revenue.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: super tm on January 23, 2010, 13:02:25
Maybe it could be suitable for the parry people mover like at Stourbridge


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: chrisoates on January 23, 2010, 21:17:01
Having endured a couple of hours in Padstow last summer, it occurred to me what a shame the line from Bodmin closed. It would be really useful now to bring the thousands of people who for some unfathomable reason descend on the town.

That would require nuke'ing Wadebridge town centre and leave the Co-Op to Ann's Cottage & beyond the 'wrong side of the tracks'.
Padstow as a destination would however make much more sense than Wadebridge.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: RailCornwall on January 23, 2010, 21:29:17
I note Councillor Biscoe's name is mentioned, wonderful councillor yes, but does tend at times to wear blinkers when Trains are involved.

One of his 'projects' being a Truro 'metro' with services between Redruth and to the east of Truro, re-opening Chacewater, Probus and Ladock Halt and Grampound Road and opening new stations at Threemilestone and Truro City(between the two viaducts).



Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: vacman on January 23, 2010, 23:39:23


Unless it's run under light rail conditons with speed restricted to 25 mph then the track will need  upgrading to NR standards.


I wouldn't like to go any faster than 25 MPH on that line! it would suffice, an hourly service could easilly be run under light railway conditions, you probably could, at a push, run half hourly at 25mph


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: chrisoates on January 24, 2010, 00:43:48


Unless it's run under light rail conditons with speed restricted to 25 mph then the track will need  upgrading to NR standards.


I wouldn't like to go any faster than 25 MPH on that line! it would suffice, an hourly service could easilly be run under light railway conditions, you probably could, at a push, run half hourly at 25mph
You'd require some awesome motive power to exceed 25mph up that gradient !


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: RailCornwall on January 24, 2010, 00:47:28
Thinking ahead .....

Bodmin <> Bodmin Pkw <> Dobwalls P&R site <> Liskeard <> Looe?


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: chrisoates on January 24, 2010, 01:18:47
Putting on my cynical hat...
is the Glynn valley full of bureaucrats wanting to work in Bodmin - never seen any (that were obviously office types) on the 555 bus - never seen many people at all on the 555 bus.
Where's this bureaucracy centre going to be - top of the hill by the Police station ? - stick with the Bus.

I love the idea of re-instating old rail links but I can't see how B&W could do it or co-exist with a commercial operation - commuters won't pay ^10 as part of their trip to work - their income from a leg of a journey from 'somewhere' would be pennies.

   


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: james666 on January 24, 2010, 12:58:25
Padstow as a destination would however make much more sense than Wadebridge.

I think Wadebridge could be a viable branch line destination (by the standards of the other Cornish branches at least).  It's grown bigger and much more prosperous since the bypass was built and it's the start of the busiest leg of the Camel trail.  There are a lot of people in the surrounding area who travel frequently out of Cornwall and I think they would find the railway an appealing option if they could join it at Wadebridge rather than having to make the hellish journey along the winding road to Bodmin.  It would be even more appealing if the Cornish "main line" wasn't so laughably slow but that's another story...


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: devon_metro on January 24, 2010, 14:14:07


Unless it's run under light rail conditons with speed restricted to 25 mph then the track will need  upgrading to NR standards.


I wouldn't like to go any faster than 25 MPH on that line! it would suffice, an hourly service could easilly be run under light railway conditions, you probably could, at a push, run half hourly at 25mph
You'd require some awesome motive power to exceed 25mph up that gradient !


The bodmin locos manage it with that stop at the centre of the route. Then again, you'd expect a class 50 load 4 to manage it.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: The SprinterMeister on January 24, 2010, 15:07:31
Maybe it could be suitable for the parry people mover like at Stourbridge
If the traffic levels projected are so small that a PPM would cope then the project is a non runner. You wouldnt ever get it to pay for the signalling and points required at the Bodmin Parkway end. Better off poking a bus on in all honesty.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Btline on January 24, 2010, 16:06:50
DON'T run a PPM! Just run a bus - it'll be cheaper and quicker.

If they're going down the rail route, it needs to be >25 mph as well, otherwise - again - you'd might as well run a bus.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: RailCornwall on November 25, 2010, 09:00:53
Flooding closes Cornish steam railway track

A steam railway in Cornwall has closed a section of its 6.5-mile (10km) line because of the recent severe flooding.

The damage at the Bodmin and Wenford Steam Railway includes tonnes of stones underneath tracks and sleepers - known as ballast - being washed away.

Holes up to 8ft (2.4m) deep have also been gouged out beside the line.

The line between Colesloggett Halt and Bodmin Parkway is expected to be closed for up to four months and repairs could cost tens of thousands of pounds.

more^.

WWW.BBC.CO.UK/NEWS (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-11835525)
25-Nov-2010 @ 09:00


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: standclearplease on November 26, 2010, 09:21:46
Not good news for the railway. At least it has happened as the season is ending and not beginning.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Andy on November 26, 2010, 11:53:12
At least the Bodmin General-Boscarne Junction stretch is unaffected, enabling them to operate a limited service over the holiday period.  Here's hoping they can sort out the problems by Easter.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: JayMac on April 02, 2011, 11:22:26
From The (Plymouth) Herald (http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/regionalbusiness/Flood-hit-railway-line-reopens-major-repairs/article-3401535-detail/article.html):

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Flood-hit railway line reopens after major repairs

A heritage railway line in Cornwall damaged by floods five months ago has reopened after extensive repair work.

The Bodmin and Wenford line was hit after two inches (50mm) of rain fell overnight on November 16-17, washing away ballast support and cutting deep sections of earth.

The flood water is believed to have poured directly on to the railway line from the A38, beside a bridge which carries the main road over the railway, between Colesloggett Halt and Bodmin Parkway.

Repair costs, which run into six figures, have largely been covered by the railway's insurers.

Contractors, KGJ Price Ltd, have completed the work on time and the affected section of line was handed back to the railway on Saturday.

General manager Richard Jones said: "We were all naturally very disappointed over what happened back in November. Thanks to the excellent support we have received from both our insurers and the appointed contractors, we are delighted to be able to report that the Bodmin and Wenford Railway has bounced back and will be fully open for business again from the start of April, and now look forward to our 2011 season with confidence and optimism."


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: chrisoates on April 03, 2011, 00:12:07
Glad they are up and running again - not the most scenic ride but the yard at Bodmin General is great and the ride to Boscarne junction gets me to the Camel trail and a nice walk to Wadebridge.
During the winter deer have been appearing at Bodmin Parkway at dusk via the Bodmin & Wenford track.

 


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 03, 2011, 13:35:56
During the winter deer have been appearing at Bodmin Parkway at dusk via the Bodmin & Wenford track.

Ticket barriers will soon solve that.  ;)


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on April 04, 2012, 22:31:12
From the Cornish Guardian (http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/right-track-town-centre-train-link/story-15714052-detail/story.html):

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On the right track for town centre train link

Reviving a national network passenger train service between Bodmin Parkway and the town centre has taken a major step forward.

Cornwall Council has submitted a bid for the service to be reinstated to the Department of Transport as part of a government consultation on new train operator franchises.

The network service to Bodmin General was stopped in 1967 as part of the Beeching cuts, but councillors and the local business community believe bringing a scheduled passenger service to the centre of Bodmin will be a huge boost to the economy.

Cornwall Council is looking at creating a new administrative complex in Bodmin to serve the east of Cornwall, and for the past two years the local authority has been looking into the feasibility of linking Bodmin Parkway to Bodmin General once again, which would provide improved transport links to the town, including for their own workers.

Cornwall Council owns the Bodmin General Station buildings and is close to finalising a new 35-year lease with leisure steam train operators the Bodmin and Wenford Railway Company, which owns the branch line track to Bodmin Parkway.

Bodmin and Wenford's general manager Richard Jones said the decision on whether the line is reopened for scheduled trains would be up to the train operator that won the franchise.

"We won't have too much of a problem in allowing another train operator to use our track providing it doesn't compromise our own business of running leisure trains,'' he said.

Mr Jones felt upgrading the track may not be necessary. "It depends on how many new train services the operator has in mind. If we are talking about many more trains using the line, then the infrastructure may have to be upgraded.''

The Better Bodmin Group, made up of business people and councillors, has also supported the reinstatement of a passenger train service to the town centre, and has included the proposal in a detailed document forwarded to Cornwall Council, which will be considered as part of Bodmin's programme for regeneration in the coming years.

Bodmin chamber of commerce chairman Chris Wilkes, who is a member of the group, said: "We want to raise visitor numbers substantially.

"This can be done by reintroducing the scheduled rail link to Bodmin General and by developing the town centre as a unique 'must visit' destination."


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: eightf48544 on April 05, 2012, 09:47:55
What's the comparative running time for a train < 25 mph compared with a bus?

I wouldn't have thought the line was suitable for a PPM I seem to remember the 45XX I travelled on the footplate in 1960 coughed quite a lot getting to Bodmin General even with only 2 on.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: grahame on April 05, 2012, 10:53:22
DON'T run a PPM! Just run a bus - it'll be cheaper and quicker.

If they're going down the rail route, it needs to be >25 mph as well, otherwise - again - you'd might as well run a bus.

Nope - I'm going to disagree with you on that.  No "formal" figures, but we've found that most long distance visitors are happy to change train -> train for the final branch, but not happy to change train -> bus.  It would be very interesting to compare the number of people leaving Plymouth westbound by train destined for Looe, Fowey, Padstow, Newquay, Helston etc, and correllating it to which require a bus to complete the journey and which are train connections.

And if you think that getting train -> train connections to tie in is hard, getting intermodal connections right is a nightmare.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: molinnis on April 11, 2012, 09:01:13
Just a note for anyone interested, Bodmin and Wenford Railway are holding an open day this Saturday 14th April to attract new volunteers.

All details here :- http://bwronline.co.uk/bwr/timetable/volday.html (http://bwronline.co.uk/bwr/timetable/volday.html)




Edit note: Thanks for posting this, molinnis - I've added it to our calendar, too. CfN.  :)


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on December 05, 2012, 21:31:09
From the Cornish Guardian (http://www.thisisdevon.co.uk/story-17467320-detail/story.html):

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Archive secrets of Cornwall's oldest railway

The stories and traditions of a pioneering Westcountry railway have been published in a new book.

Author Michael Messenger has delved into the archives to present a detailed account of the Bodmin and Wadebridge Railway which was Cornwall's first steam railway, opened in 1834. It was worked by primitive steam engines and remained independent of Britain's national railways for more than 60 years.

"It was very much a local railway, funded by the people of Bodmin and the Camel Valley and its purpose was to bring sea-sand inland for agriculture," said Mr Messenger. "It had ambitions to expand to Delabole and beyond, but never got beyond the planning stage."

It was acquired by the London & South Western Railway (LSWR) in 1846 but that made little difference to its way of working.

Mr Messenger added: "Even when the LSWR had put their own man in, the line kept going in its individual Cornish way. Workers were rewarded with pints of ale or cocoa, and the management had to take care not to break the rule of not working on a Sunday."

While the story of one of Britain's oldest steam railways is well-known, Mr Messenger spent many years delving in archives throughout the country to compile a very detailed history of how the railway worked and was managed, how it served and was part of the community and why it was essential to local industry. He also tells the story of the people who ran it and benefited from it.

Later the line became a little more like a standard British branch line, but kept a character all of its own, says Mr Messenger.

Three of its original carriages, dating from the 1840s, are now in the National Railway Museum in York.

Vintage steam engines worked the line until 1964 and it survived until 1983. The route is now part of the popular Camel Trail walk.

The illustrated book, titled The Bodmin and Wadebridge Railway 1834-1983 is published by Twelveheads Press, priced ^39.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Andy on December 06, 2012, 12:36:29
It's too bad that, given its special historical significance, efforts to restore this stretch of line between Bodmin & Wadebridge have not met with more success. Here's hoping that in time a solution may be found which enables rail and trail to coexist.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on November 06, 2013, 17:36:52
From the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-24827526):

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Steam engine line secures 35-year lease

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Trains started running on the line again in 1986

A steam railway line in Cornwall has secured a new 35-year lease, managers say.

The Bodmin and Wenford Railway Trust, which operates 6.5 miles (10.5km) of former branch line track, had been operating on five-year leases.

The new extended lease had been negotiated with Cornwall Council, trust chairman Keith Searle said.

The trust has six operational engines running on the track more than 200 days a year.

The branch line closed to passengers in January 1967 and then completely in November 1983.

A group of volunteers got together in 1984 to work on reopening the line and trains started running again in 1986.

Mr Searle said the organisation originally had one-year renewable leases from the then North Cornwall District Council because there was "no idea whether we'd be successful or not".

The leases were later increased to five years and are now with Cornwall Council, which took over from the previous authority in 2009.

Mr Searle said: "As we improved and business increased and our spending increased, it became obvious that just a five-year lease was not enough. If you want to get grants, you won't get them with that short a lease."

He said he and other trust members were relieved the new lease was in place. "I think the future is looking good," he said.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Andy on November 07, 2013, 07:49:48
Excellent news for the Bodmin & Wenford, who can hopefully take full advantage of the added security this agreement provides. Does anyone know if they're moving forward with their plans to extend the half-mile from Boscarne Jcn to Nanstallon Halt?

It's also an encouraging development for other railway groups in the county.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Cynthia on November 07, 2013, 21:20:04
The latest proposals to run passenger trains along the Camel Trail have hit the buffers after failing to impress Bodmin councillors.The town council has rejected the ^9 million plan by the Bodmin and Wenford Railway Company which wants to extend the line for trains to run to Wadebridge (link below.)
http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=144125&command=displayContent&sourceNode=232450&contentPK=18490064&folderPk=108202&pNodeId=251466

Members are particularly concerned after studying plans that show the Camel Trail would be reduced in width to 2.5 metres to allow a new line to be built.

There would be enough width for two cyclists and two pedestrians to use the trail in the same direction , but councillors say this would be too narrow for oncoming users.

They also feel that cycling and walking are more environmentally friendly than trains.

Cllr Linda Spear said the Bodmin and Wenford Railway was a wonderful tourist attraction , but the Camel Trail was an even better one.


 :'(
Oh, drat and double drat, Mutley.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 04, 2014, 17:52:50
From This Is The West Country (http://www.thisisthewestcountry.co.uk/news/devon_news/11378925.Ground_breaking_ticketing_deal_for_Devon_And_Cornwall_Rail_Partnership/):

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Ground breaking ticketing deal for Devon And Cornwall Rail Partnership

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After months of behind the scenes hard work and storm damage delays, the Bodmin And Wenford Railway and First Great Western in association with the Plymouth based Devon And Cornwall Rail Partnership were able to announce their ground breaking inclusive ticketing deal.

Believed to be the first such arrangement between a heritage railway and a national railway company, passengers can now travel from any station in Cornwall and Plymouth through to Bodmin General and Boscarne Junction and return for just ^12 (Seniors ^11, Children ^6).

In effect travel on the mainline is free. From any station in Devon (as far apart as Barnstaple and Exmouth, Tiverton and Paignton) the fare is a very good value ^20 (Seniors ^19, Children ^10).

To mark the occasion a special train (Pannier tank no. 6435 and 1881 built GWR Special Saloon) with invited guests ran from Bodmin General, and was in the adjoining platform at Bodmin Parkway to coincide with FGW's 1119 hours departure to Paddington.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: JayMac on August 04, 2014, 19:40:50
Whoever wrote the article believes wrong. Inclusive through tickets are available for many heritage railways:

Severn Valley Railway, Ravenglass & Eskdale Railway, Bluebell Railway, Keighley & Worth Valley Railway, Isle of Wight Steam Railway, South Devon Railway, Spa Valley Railway, Ecclesbourne Valley Railway - all offer through tickets from selected National Rail stations. These ticketing arrangements are usually overseen/managed by the National Rail TOC who operate the relevant interchange station.

Also, looking back through fares manuals for previous years I've found through fares for the Bodmin & Wenford Railway. A Through Off Peak Day fare at ^12 (^11 Senior, ^6 Child) from stations in Devon & Cornwall has been in the current fares manual since May.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: alexross42 on September 16, 2015, 09:31:01
It seems the ambition to rebuild to Wadebridge has been reignited in so much that a new(?) website has appeared:

http://www.bodminandwadebridgerailway.co.uk/ (http://www.bodminandwadebridgerailway.co.uk/)

Not a lot of info there at the moment but hopefully it'll serve as a useful point for updates on the proposal as and when they're available.


Title: Re: Bodmin & Wenford to Wadebridge re-opening (merged topic)
Post by: james666 on September 21, 2015, 22:15:18
It seems the ambition to rebuild to Wadebridge has been reignited in so much that a new(?) website has appeared:

7 or 8 years ago bodminandwenfordrailway.co.uk had some quite detailed proposals for a trailway or railtrail that would relay the tracks to Wadebridge while accommodating the Camel trail.  These included a short diversion of the cycle path so it uses the old North Cornwall bridge rather than Pendavey, and creating a new tunnel at Polbrook.  All this material mysteriously disappeared not very long after it was first posted and has since purged from the waybackmachine as well.  I'm delighted that the idea is being floated again.  As I've said before, Wadebridge is a much more prosperous town than it was 30-odd years ago.  A link to Bodmin Parkway could be as viable as any of the other Cornish branch lines.



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