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Title: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: Kingfisherdart on July 06, 2010, 20:14:47
Not entirely sure if this is the appropriate page for this discussion - I'll let the moderators decide!

Spent a few hours cycling around Bruton today, looking for traces of the old Somerset and Dorset railway. Anyone else interested in this line?

I found plenty of evidence, including the station buildings at Cole, as well as several overbridges and embankments, not to mention the abutments of where the S&D crossed the Berks & Hants west of Bruton. I've attached a few photos - hope these are of interest to people...

Luke

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The former station at Cole - just a 5 minute cycle ride from Bruton station.
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An HST heads for Paddington, at the site where the S&D used to cross the Berks & Hants. You can just make out where the line ran, to the right of the trees just in front of the power car.
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Not many people could miss this as being a former railway line...
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The Berks & Hants to the west of Bruton. The S&D would have run across the foreground of this shot
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An overbridge half way between Cole and Evercreech. An original concrete workman's hut survives under this bridge. The trackbed can be seen curving off towards the Berks & Hants line, and Cole station.



Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: grahame on July 06, 2010, 21:31:26
Thanks for posting that. I'm certainly happy to have threads like this - in fact I think I did one up the line at Patney and Chirton at one point.    Where to put it is a really good question to which I don't really and answer for.   Personally, I would go for the board of the neighbouring open line - which is a combination of Heart of Wessex and London to West of England.   If only FGW was as simple as the tube and we could have one colour for each line!


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: Timmer on July 06, 2010, 21:51:15
They are of great interest, thanks for taking the time to post them here.


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: Phil on July 06, 2010, 22:04:25
Yes, thirded - I'm definitely up for more of this. I'd love to find a straightforward resource that shows where to park and walk stretches of this line (and others) but every one I've ever found online and in books has been over complicated and aimed at the serious walker who isn't phased by grid references and "14 mile rambles". I may be in a minority but I just want to be able to park my car somewhere safe and easy, unload the bikes or pull on a pair of wellies, and spend three or four hours at most letting my imagination roam free in a former railway environment.

Most enjoyable outing so far this year was parking in Winscombe and wandering through Shute Shelve tunnel to Axbridge and back along the Strawberry Line, but that felt like cheating in a way given that I used to live there (albeit 40 years ago now). So, yeah: any other recommendations (esp. backed up with photos) much appreciated. Thanks!


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: Kingfisherdart on July 06, 2010, 22:10:13
I quite agree Phil - exactly what I did from Bruton station today!

I'm aiming to see as much of the line as possible - I reckon bike is the best way - you can stop as you wish, but you're never blocking anyone as you would in a car.

Others I plan to do, are Evercreech Junction and Evercreech (from Castle Cary), Broadstone (Hamworthy), the Camerton Branch (Freshford?), and Wincanton (Bruton or Templecombe).

I would be interested in setting up a website for 'manageable' railway walks (or cycles). I stuck to the lanes for my visit - thought trying to follow the line itself may have been a bit of a challenge, but i'm sure I managed to see most, if not all of it.

Luke


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: JayMac on July 06, 2010, 23:03:21
I find Google Earth and Bing Maps very useful in tracing the route of disused lines. Often where there appears no visible remains on the ground an aerial view can show up traces of a route. Handy for finding spots where former lines cross country lanes and farm tracks.

Here's an aerial view of Evercreech Junction and you can see the branch to Highbridge curving off to the top left. Even where fields have been ploughed you can still see the feint impression of the line:

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Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: The Grecian on July 07, 2010, 19:12:32
If you're interested in the S&D, there's an open day where you can walk through the mile long Combe Down Tunnel on the southern outskirts of Bath coming up on Saturday 17th July. It's part of the general intent of the Two Tunnels Group to open the 4 mile Bath-Midford stretch as a cycle path in the long term. More info here:

http://www.twotunnels.org.uk/index.html


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: Kingfisherdart on July 13, 2010, 11:38:06
A further update. Walked from Cole - all the way to Evercreech Junction this week - got some further photos. Extremely sad to see Evercreech Junction in it's present form.

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Cole Station - taken from the other side of the field. A station sign survives inside the dwelling.

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The two-arch overbridge to the South of Cole - with the line to Wincanton heading off through the partially infilled cutting.

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Crossing Cottage - the site of the former 'Lamyatt Crossing', one of two level crossings situated between Cole and Evercreech Junction. The second was further to the south, and crossed the main Bruton to Castle Road - this was known as 'Cole Road Crossing'.

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The forlorn remains of Evercreech Junction station. The back garden of what was the station building, marks the site of the platforms. The signal box and other buildings on the largely hidden 'up' platform are all but a memory. I believe the platform structures still exist underneath the turf.

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A section of the former 'up' platform is still visible. The posts for the platform fencing are still there, made of old rail - and you can even see the Southern green that was applied to them. A signal box used to stand on this section of the platform. The section of the platform that juts out, is where the waiting shelter would have stood.

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Behind the cars of the 'Natterjack Inn', is where Evercreech Junction crossing used to be. The line from Cole arrived over this road once upon a time.

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Another view of the remaining station building, at Evercreech Junction. This is the former entrance - the platforms are on the other side.


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: 567662 on September 16, 2010, 12:27:07
Hi All
Just joined the forum as i have an interest in the S&D.
We live in the "Crossing Cottage" at Lamyatt. I was interested to notice the photo of my house here on the forum. On a point of interest, the original Crossing Cottage is still standing. I built around it and it is still inside of the new house. The cottage was originally 12ft x 12ft. One up and one down with a small outhouse built on the end furthest away from the road. It was extended with another 12ft x 12ft built on the end. This was how it stood when we bought it. Coal was dropped off from the passing trains. Water was supplied in churns from Evercreech Junction to both Lamyatt and Bruton Road Cottages.
There is still some of the track left here. it runs from Crossing Cottage to the Naterjack Inn next to the old Evercreech junction station. It is very overgrown now. The photo that i have attached is of Lamyatt Crossing Cottage sometime in the 1960's. The gates have been smashed by a local lady in her car. She had washed the car, got water in the brakes and could not stop. We came here in 1984 and have extended the property as you can see from Lukes photo. I notice that several people like to do walks or rides in this area. If anyone needs somewhere to park then we would be pleased to help. We have lots of space here. We also have a friend who has extensive knowledge of the S&D in this area and couldprovide information. If anyone has any photos of this neck of the woods i would appreciate to know. The other Crossing Cottage next along the line towards Cole Station from here was called Bruton Road Crossing. In latter years Mr and Mrs Box lived there. It was demolished as it had no water supply, no drainage and i don't think any electricity.
If you woant to contact me further my email address is gerald@rightway.biz
Hopefully the photo will be attached!!
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Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: JayMac on September 16, 2010, 12:53:50
Thank you very much, 567662, for that informative first post. I'm sure the information provided will be of interest to some of the forum members.

May I, on behalf of the Admin and Moderator team, extend a very warm welcome to the Coffee Shop!  :)


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: Phil on September 16, 2010, 14:44:13
A big welcome to the forum 567662 and also a personal thanks for your kind offer of a place to park - I may very well take you up on that!!


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: 34104 on October 08, 2010, 10:33:17
Hi All
Just joined the forum as i have an interest in the S&D.
We live in the "Crossing Cottage" at Lamyatt. I was interested to notice the photo of my house here on the forum. On a point of interest, the original Crossing Cottage is still standing. I built around it and it is still inside of the new house. The cottage was originally 12ft x 12ft. One up and one down with a small outhouse built on the end furthest away from the road. It was extended with another 12ft x 12ft built on the end. This was how it stood when we bought it. Coal was dropped off from the passing trains. Water was supplied in churns from Evercreech Junction to both Lamyatt and Bruton Road Cottages.
There is still some of the track left here. it runs from Crossing Cottage to the Naterjack Inn next to the old Evercreech junction station. It is very overgrown now. The photo that i have attached is of Lamyatt Crossing Cottage sometime in the 1960's. The gates have been smashed by a local lady in her car. She had washed the car, got water in the brakes and could not stop. We came here in 1984 and have extended the property as you can see from Lukes photo. I notice that several people like to do walks or rides in this area. If anyone needs somewhere to park then we would be pleased to help. We have lots of space here. We also have a friend who has extensive knowledge of the S&D in this area and couldprovide information. If anyone has any photos of this neck of the woods i would appreciate to know. The other Crossing Cottage next along the line towards Cole Station from here was called Bruton Road Crossing. In latter years Mr and Mrs Box lived there. It was demolished as it had no water supply, no drainage and i don't think any electricity.
If you woant to contact me further my email address is gerald@rightway.biz
Hopefully the photo will be attached!!
()

I tried to walk the section between Lamyatt crossing cottage and Evercreech Junction many years ago [in the mid nineties,i think],but the cutting adjacent to the cottage was as absolute bog and impossible to get through-has it dried out at all since? If you're interested in the S and D and its possible restoration,try these sites;



http://www.sdjr.co.uk/
http://www.shillingstone.addr.com/
http://somersetanddorset.blogspot.com/

The latter is a plan to restore the entire S and D between Bath and Bournemouth,much debated on other sites! Unlikely in my lifetime i would say,but who knows in the fullness of time?


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: 34104 on May 28, 2013, 09:42:05
Not sure if this is in the right section but an appeal has been launched by the Somerset and Dorset Railway Heritage Trust,who have carried out a wonderful restoration job at Midsomer Norton,to purchase Masbury station about 6 miles down the line with a long term view to joining the two and making a real working heritage line a possibility;

http://www.sdjr.co.uk/

If Masbury station was to be purchased,then i'd have thought that Shepton Mallet would also be a very achievable aim in the longer long term-now that would be a mouth watering prospect.


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: Red Squirrel on May 28, 2013, 12:48:33
I wish them the best of luck with this.

There don't seem to be too many physical obstacles between Masbury and Midsomer Norton, other than (I make it) one missing bridge and a couple of houses at Binegar. Oh, and a couple of level crossings.

Be interesting to see what impact this would have on the East Somerset Railway if it succeeds.

Not sure this really qualifies as a 'Campaign for new or improved service' though - at best this would surely be a tourist attraction?

Edit: Typo and clarification


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on May 29, 2013, 00:22:23
Many thanks to 34104 for the original post, and to Red Squirrel for an initial response.  :)

This topic was originally posted on our 'Across the West' board, but I felt it was rather more appropriate here, as a 'new campaign'.  However, time constraints made it difficult for me to complete that move yesterday as neatly as I'd have liked.  :-[

What I'd now like to do is to combine any previous posts on the subject of the Somerset & Dorset Railway Heritage Trust here - rather as we have done previously, with other heritage lines and their aspirations to expand their services.

Please bear with me, while I do a bit more shunting on the forum!  ;D


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: Red Squirrel on May 29, 2013, 09:43:17

What I'd now like to do is to combine any previous posts on the subject of the Somerset & Dorset Railway Heritage Trust here - rather as we have done previously, with other heritage lines and their aspirations to expand their services.

Please bear with me, while I do a bit more shunting on the forum!  ;D

Your work is much appreciated!


Title: Somerset & Dorset Joint Railway. 50th anniversary of closure.
Post by: JayMac on March 05, 2016, 10:29:48
The 7th March 2016 marks the 50th anniversary of the closure to passenger services on the Somerset & Dorset Joint Railway.

Somerset and Dorset Railway closure marked 50 years on - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-35718199


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset Joint Railway. 50th anniversary of closure.
Post by: Red Squirrel on March 05, 2016, 10:58:22
From the BBC item above:

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...But Michael Eavis, Glastonbury founder, said it would be "impossible" to have a "train coming through the site now".


Well that's it settled then.


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on March 12, 2016, 20:15:48
From itvnews online (http://www.itv.com/news/west/2016-03-07/film-makers-re-discover-footage-of-last-train-to-run-on-infamous-railway/):

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Film-makers re-discover footage of last train to run on infamous railway

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Half a century has passed since this film was made by Bob and John.
Photo: ITV West Country


It's exactly 50 years ago that the old Somerset and Dorset Railway was closed, after it fell victim to the Beeching cuts, which saw thousands of miles of tracks pulled up and stations removed as the rail network was restructured in the 1960s.

Two ITV Westcountry viewers, who were teenagers at the time, filmed one of the final journeys on cine cameras, and they've been kind enough to share this never-before-broadcast footage.

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John was on board the train, filming out of the window. They've only now released the footage. Credit: ITV West Country

Half a century has passed since the film was made, but the memories of that day in 1966 are as fresh as they ever were for Bob Drew and John Harding, school friends in Somerset who set out to record a moment in history.

John was on board the train, filming out of the window whilst Bob was on a bridge at the station to film it leaving and then arriving a few stops down the track, at least that was the plan.

"I jumped into my father's old Austin A40 Somerset and went racing around the roads, hoping to get to Shapwick station before the train got there but, in fact, we didn't quite make that and John, in his excitement I think, forgot to get off!

So I then raced around to Catcott station, where he had got off."

^ BOB DREW, AMATEUR FILMAKER

The old Somerset and Dorset Railway, nicknamed the Slow and Dirty, carried hoards of summer season visitors from towns in the north from Bath down to Bournemouth.

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There was a branch line from Evercreech Junction across to Highbridge and Burnham on Sea where it picked up Bristol Channel steamer traffic. There were stations along the way at tiny rural spots like Pylle, West Pennard, Edington and Bason Bridge.

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The line ran through some picturesque countryside, and right across what is now the site of the Glastonbury Festival.

The track bed is still there and serves as a useful thoroughfare for festival goers, especially when the surrounding fields get muddy.

In the spot where Shapwick station once stood, there nothing more these days than a rather good place for birdwatching - it's a nature reserve. Its railway days are long gone.

The cine film the duo used cost about ^4 a reel in those days - a lot of money when you were only earning about ^7 or ^8 a week - so you had to be careful what you filmed.

John and Bob chose to film this train journey and managed to preserve the memory of this so-called golden age for the future.


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: Chris from Nailsea on August 07, 2016, 20:40:44
A story from Burnham-on-Sea.com:

Somerset and Dorset railway exhibition comes to Burnham-On-Sea (http://www.burnham-on-sea.com/news/2016/railway-exhibition-03-08-16.php)

'Burnham-on-Sea.com' are very protective of their website articles, to the extent that I am prevented from linking to any of their text or pictures here.  Nevertheless, I recommend that anyone who is interested and is able to link to their news item does so, as there are some fascinating pictures there.  ::)


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: ChrisB on September 22, 2016, 14:16:25
(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/f87ce0734049829407b1db204/images/c4967091-4215-4756-b343-a2d3a54280f9.jpg)

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The Lost Railway – celebrating and remembering the Somerset & Dorset Railway
 Green Park Station, Green Park Road, Bath, BA1
 7.30 – 9pm. Free
 The Lost Railway is an outdoor show commemorating and celebrating the rich heritage
 of the Somerset and Dorset Railway and its closure in 1966.  An event for all ages, ‘The
 Lost Railway’ celebrates the S&D in light, sound, song, music and performance. The
 show is for audiences to watch, wander in and lose themselves in. Starting around
 dusk, the show lights up places that once part of or near the railways route, Green Park
 station and the depot that was once alongside it was the terminus of the line. The show
 features performers, live band, lighting effects, mobile tower, songs and stories and has
 been created by the company Rag and Bone. For this Bath performance the company is
 working with the Natural Theatre Company.

 The Lost Railway is not a history lesson, but an evening tale evoking the life, sounds,
 stories and closure of an important feature of the life of Bath and Somerset.
 Lost Railway is inspired by the many stories of the railway, the awesome power of
 steam, the magic of railway lines and journeys through the landscape. The show
 immerses people in the evocative sounds of the railway and creates a railway line of
 light into a lost past

 The Somerset and Dorset Railway was a key sight and sound in the west, and an
 important part of the economic and social fabric of the counties. Its trains last ran in March 1966. The memory of the railway, its equipment, archives, rolling stock and even
 trains was revived and treasured by the Somerset and Dorset Railway Trust
 The Lost Railway is part of a series of events commemorating the closure of the
 Railway line. The show has been created by the outdoor performance company Rag
 and Bone and is funded by the Heritage Lottery Fund.
www.rag-bone.org (http://www.rag-bone.org)
www.sdrt.org (http://www.sdrt.org)
naturaltheatre.co.uk (http://naturaltheatre.co.uk)


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: Gordon the Blue Engine on September 22, 2016, 16:40:02
I managed to “do” the S & D from Bournemouth to Bristol TM just before it closed - it was a round trip from Coventry, so must have been quite a long day. 

There’s a lovely poem in the 1964 publication “4ft 8 ½ and all that – a Sort of Railway History” which goes:

“Oh Wellow, Wellow down the line,
And Blandford Forum too,
Dear Evercreech is out of reach,
Now “The Pines” does not pass through.

“Will Bournemouth West go with the rest,
Now that the S and D,
Has heard its last “West Country” blast?
Ask Beeching, don’t ask me!


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: grahame on August 28, 2018, 14:20:13
From my news feed at https://www.facebook.com/somersetanddorsetrailway/photos/a.1332511273441474/2647347978624457/

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ACTION REQUIRED TO SAVE S&D TRACK BED FROM DEVELOPMENT!

A planning application has be submitted for the development of former S&D infrastructure at Pitcombe. Objections need to be lodged by 5th September.

BANES & Mendip councils have protected S&D trackbed from further development, South Somerset Council currently doesn't.

Can everyone please contact South Somerset Council an lodge and objection to the planning application. Objections can be made on the website (www.southsomerset.gov.uk),
Quoting ref: 18/01820/OUT.

Reason for objection can be based around protection of former S&D trackbed for future strategic transportation use.

Not expressing any view on the application - just bringing it to members attention.   Comments welcome here (where they will make no difference to the process!) or via the site above (where they just might!)


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: RA on August 28, 2018, 18:35:24
One of my favourite films about the Somerset & Dorset:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03495yn/lets-imagine-a-branch-line-railway-with-john-betjeman# (https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03495yn/lets-imagine-a-branch-line-railway-with-john-betjeman#)



Another one that I can remember watching on TV as part of a series called ' The Seaside Trains':

https://youtu.be/FXC-FopdH74 (https://youtu.be/FXC-FopdH74)


Title: Re: Somerset & Dorset - heritage line - the remains and possible resurrection
Post by: Lee on November 28, 2018, 13:18:53
From Somerset Live: (https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/midsomer-norton-railway-plans-submitted-2267348)

Quote from: Somerset Live
Plans to completely redevelop the Midsomer Norton railway station have been officially submitted after an initial proposal was put forward.

The proposal included micro-brewery space, commercial units and apartments as part of an attempt to overhaul the railway station, which currently houses a museum and small cafe and the neighbouring land is a nature reserve.

Plans have now been officially submitted and are being considered by the local planning authority according to the company behind the proposal.

Joseph Marchant, the director of Context Logic, recently met with Midsomer Norton mayor Paul Myers and other town councillors to discuss the plans.



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