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Title: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: Lee on August 02, 2011, 08:17:15
From a FOSBR member:

Quote from: FOSBR member
Thought you all might be interested to know that the over-grown foliage up Filton Bank between the end of the southern quad. section (South of Lawrence Hill) & Stapleton Road has been cleared from the track-bed, and new lengths of rail (in 4s!) sit on the Down line. Looks suspiciously like re-quadrupling to me!

Why the bloody hell is it so hard to get any info. out of Network Rail?! Does anyone have an idea of the schedule of works? Who's the best person to contact locally in NR to be kept up-to-date?

Could somebody on here possibly make this persons day and provide more info on this?..

..And can TJ please advise me where to put the apostrophe in "persons" ? Damned if I can remember..


Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: TerminalJunkie on August 02, 2011, 10:01:29
Could somebody on here possibly make this persons day and provide more info on this?..

..And can TJ please advise me where to put the apostrophe in "persons" ? Damned if I can remember..

If you are referring to one person, the possessive form would be "person's". Of course, if you changed it to read "make his day" you wouldn't need to worry about it.

Oh, and an ellipsis should be formed with three dots...


Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: Tim on August 02, 2011, 10:36:43
I find it hard to believe that a major project like this would start without it being announced.  I suspect it is just a rerailing exervise.

I'd love to be proved wrong.



Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: paul7575 on August 02, 2011, 11:25:30
Quadrupling Filton Bank is shown in the current enhancement plan as a project that is authorised to draw down development funds only during CP4, ie up to 2014; then is expected to be undertaken during CP5; and the GWML RUS reports "...therefore recommends the development of both the three and four track options for subsequent implementation during Bristol resignalling in CP5", ie beyond 2014 up til 2019.

So it is almost certainly normal renewals. 

Paul


Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: Lee on August 02, 2011, 11:55:41
Oh, and an ellipsis should be formed with three dots...

Thanks, TJ  :) ;D

Frankly, I'm amazed at that. A while back, someone else specifically advised me that an ellipsis should be formed with two dots!

You learn something new every day...


Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: devon_metro on August 02, 2011, 12:18:25
Think some of the bridges would need some attention before 4 tracking can begin.


Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: JayMac on August 02, 2011, 16:28:06
I wouldn't even hold my breath for rerailing. Take a look at the Severn Beach Line. From Narroways Junction down to Redland, there are hundreds of 'new' sleepers along with bags of ballast that have been there for years. So long in fact that nature has taken over and is slowly covering it all in greenery.

Such a waste of materials.


Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: paul7575 on August 02, 2011, 18:00:58
Could also be 'prepositioned for emergency repairs' though...

That's what I'd say if I worked in rail infrastructure and didn't know why the stuff had ever been dropped off and then forgotten about...  ;D

Paul


Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: rich0099 on August 04, 2011, 08:52:08
I've recently noticed Tata branded rails in the middle of the tracks at Avonmouth station (SVB to BRI direction).

Also... possible track work by the Oil refinery at 51.525286,-2.688292 (using google maps)? It may be someone having a laugh, but the 3 or 4 sleepers look very purposefully placed to suggest a set of points.

Nice to see the coal trains back at St Andrew's Road... it's been a bit quiet recently.


Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: Dispatch Box on December 04, 2018, 19:29:12
This has now been done, 2018, Lovely.


Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: TonyK on December 05, 2018, 17:51:53
Then:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4708/39951550694_81d6f774f0_c.jpg)

Now:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4872/45280334405_69cd4145ec_c.jpg)


Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: Red Squirrel on December 05, 2018, 20:33:48
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Two new railway lines into Bristol Temple Meads completed to help improve passenger journeys

(https://cdn.networkrail.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/filton-four-track-horfield-cutting-1035x545.jpg)

This morning (Monday 3 December) Network Rail successfully completed the installation of two new railway lines between Filton Abbey Wood and Bristol Temple Meads – doubling the number of lines into Temple Meads from two to four.

These two new train lines will help improve reliable services for passengers because they enable local stopping services to run on separate lines to faster intercity services – which is often why trains are delayed into and out of Bristol Temple Meads and makes journeys longer. The two new tracks will also help get services up and running faster when incidents occur and critically the new lines pave the way for an increase in direct London – Bristol Parkway – Bristol Temple Meads services that will be introduced at the end of 2019.

Engineers started on the £130m upgrade programme in 2015 and this culminated in up to 350 engineers on the tracks at any one time during an intensive three-week upgrade in November this year, with the final testing being done in the last two weeks of weekend closures.

Mark Langman, route managing director for Network Rail said: “This upgrade will transform rail travel for passengers across Bristol. It will also ease congestion at the bottleneck into Bristol Temple Meads where trains are often delayed getting into the station. From the end of next year it will enable GWR to run more frequent and quicker services between Bristol and London Paddington, providing more seats and better journeys for passengers – a real boost for the region’s economy.

“I’d like to really thank passengers for their patience with the disruption caused whilst we completed the final stages of this work. I’d particularly like to thank the local communities that live around Filton, Horfield, Stapleton Road and Narroways for their patience as we’ve been working in their areas since 2015 to deliver this project. We are particularly grateful for their support.”

Both Bristol City and South Gloucestershire Councils have been highly supportive of the Filton Bank scheme.

Mayor of Bristol, Marvin Rees commented: “I’m grateful for the work Network Rail have done to put these important improvements in place and recognise the patience of everyone affected while these were being done.

“By investing in infrastructure with our partner organisations, we move closer to delivering a thriving transport exchange at Temple Meads that will support our ambitions for Temple Quarter, Bristol and the wider city region. Better and faster transport connections are crucial to building Bristol’s success, ensuring accessibility to new jobs and homes and supporting inclusive growth across the West of England.”

Cllr Colin Hunt, South Gloucestershire Council Cabinet Member for Planning, Transport and Strategic Environment, said: “As a strong supporter of rail travel, South Gloucestershire Council is very pleased to see the progress Network Rail has made on the project.  We have worked with Network Rail over the last few years to help them deliver this important project which will greatly contribute towards improving capacity for passengers, as well as sustainable travel for residents and commuters in South Gloucestershire and beyond.”

Source: Network Rail (https://www.networkrail.co.uk/feeds/two-new-railway-lines-into-bristol-temple-meads-completed-to-help-improve-passenger-journeys/)


ENDEX ENDEX


Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: TonyK on December 05, 2018, 20:52:12
Why thanks for our patience? I for one don't count it as one of my virtues. As Spike Milligan said in Puckoon: "Patience? That word was invented by dull buggers who can't think quick enough."


Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: JayMac on December 06, 2018, 05:33:32
Ahh, Puckoon. A favourite book of mine. One of the naughtiest books in our school library.

"Caw," said the crow.
"Balls," said the Milligan.


Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: Red Squirrel on December 06, 2018, 08:17:26
Why thanks for our patience? I for one don't count it as one of my virtues. As Spike Milligan said in Puckoon: "Patience? That word was invented by dull buggers who can't think quick enough."

Patience would have been a very useful virtue for those who had to negotiate the astonishingly heavy traffic between Montpelier and Clifton Down during the three-week blockade.

Some people might think that a 3-car train running every 40 minutes wouldn't make that much difference to traffic, but with narrow already-congested roads I have no doubt that it makes a huge difference. It would be interesting to ask the scores of schoolkids who use the Severn Beach line to get to Cotham, Colston's and Redland Green schools what mode they switched to during the blockade; my guess is that more than half of them went by car.


Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: metalrail on December 06, 2018, 10:15:56
As usual (and also an appropriate subject for the question of the future of the Metrowest project) there's absolutely no mention of the fact that the Four Tracking was originally part of the campaign to enable more local trains to be run more often, and was the key to being able to effectively unlock that potential

It's just been sold again as a boost in the Bristol to London services, same as always;

"The two new tracks will also help get services up and running faster when incidents occur and critically the new lines pave the way for an increase in direct London – Bristol Parkway – Bristol Temple Meads services that will be introduced at the end of 2019"

Yes, it will reduce the journey time from BPW to PAD by running directly, but that doesn't - in any way - solve the Greater Bristol transport problems we're still stuck with

In fact it goes on to say how it will help to boost Bristol's economy and growth - which is fantastic - but which just adds yet more footfall and congestion to a local transport system which is already years behind being able to cope with the existing living & working population of the area


Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: TonyK on December 06, 2018, 11:19:47

Patience would have been a very useful virtue for those who had to negotiate the astonishingly heavy traffic between Montpelier and Clifton Down during the three-week blockade.

Some people might think that a 3-car train running every 40 minutes wouldn't make that much difference to traffic, but with narrow already-congested roads I have no doubt that it makes a huge difference. It would be interesting to ask the scores of schoolkids who use the Severn Beach line to get to Cotham, Colston's and Redland Green schools what mode they switched to during the blockade; my guess is that more than half of them went by car.

St Mary Redcliffe too. There are around 300 seats on a 3-car Turbo, meaning you should be able to cram around 500 onto one. That is five double-deck bus loads, or up to 500 cars removed from the road - far from insignificant.


Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: Dispatch Box on December 06, 2018, 12:26:13
As usual (and also an appropriate subject for the question of the future of the Metrowest project) there's absolutely no mention of the fact that the Four Tracking was originally part of the campaign to enable more local trains to be run more often, and was the key to being able to effectively unlock that potential

It's just been sold again as a boost in the Bristol to London services, same as always;

"The two new tracks will also help get services up and running faster when incidents occur and critically the new lines pave the way for an increase in direct London – Bristol Parkway – Bristol Temple Meads services that will be introduced at the end of 2019"

Yes, it will reduce the journey time from BPW to PAD by running directly, but that doesn't - in any way - solve the Greater Bristol transport problems we're still stuck with

In fact it goes on to say how it will help to boost Bristol's economy and growth - which is fantastic - but which just adds yet more footfall and congestion to a local transport system which is already years behind being able to cope with the existing living & working population of the area


I Thought it was this month, That new trains start, do not want to wait that long, starting to go grey?.


Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: grahame on December 06, 2018, 15:12:29
I Thought it was this month, That new trains start, do not want to wait that long, starting to go grey?.

The public timetable is virtually unchanged this month.  After all the problems on Northern and Southern / Thameslink, a "review before we do" policy has brought in and for December that's close to "The answer is NO, what is the question". when TOCs ask Network Rail.   Very irritating because some things are ready to go.

You will find two sets of changes on Filton Bank. Firstly, as St Phillip's Marsh ramps down on HSTs and Stoke Gifford ramps up on IETs, you'll find movements getting trains to and from depots change. Second, and we're see in it already, redistribution of existing trains make things far less prone to delay and cancellation through capacity issues between Temple Meads and Parkway, including service that only use a part of that line such as Avonmouth and Severn Beach trains.


Title: Re: Filton Bank Update?
Post by: grahame on December 06, 2018, 22:45:16
We appear to have re-opened a very old topic here and now have two thread running.

Continuing posts at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=13113 ... and I am going to temporarily lock this topic to nudge people over there.



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