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31  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: TfL to take command of the capital's entire suburban rail network on: January 31, 2016, 15:43:54
The press I've read all refer to services starting/finishing in/around the M25....so inner suburban.

You can get a very good idea of what TfL» (Transport for London - about) are considering on page 20 of the GLA's 'Devolving rail services to London'' report from last year.
 
32  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: New trains from old? on: November 15, 2015, 12:16:36
You may find the following 9 minute video interesting - it's the 230 doing a circuit of their test track, accelerating up to the maximum linespeed (around 30mph IIRC (if I recall/remember/read correctly)) around 6mins in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNmRi6cDNY8

It certainly doesn't seem appreciably different or noisier than conventional D Stock at those speeds, with the traction motors the predominant sound.
33  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: New trains from old? on: November 10, 2015, 15:15:21
For anyone that missed the articles in October's 'Modern Railways' about these, they are now available as pdf files on RRDC's website.


Roger Ford: Class 230 Confounds Critics

Ian Walmsley: Shooter Misses Foot

34  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: New trains from old? on: November 04, 2015, 14:39:26
They've updated the exterior and interior visuals on their website with what appears to be the finalised design:

Interior

Exterior 1

Exterior 2
35  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: New trains from old? on: September 26, 2015, 13:37:10
You can get some idea of what is in Modern Railways from Roger Ford's 'e-preview' which is well worth subscribing too:

http://live.ezezine.com/ezine/archives/759/759-2015.09.21.04.00.archive.txt

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Class 230 in the metal
Informed Sources Fourth Law commands ^When in doubt build a demonstrator^. While it is easy to rubbish a concept, something in the metal demands objective criticism.

During August Mr Walmsley and I were among the 195 guests who visited the Quinton Rail Technology Centre to examine Vivarail^s first conversion of a D78 Tube Stock vehicle into a Class 230 Diesel Electric Multiple Unit and have a ride on the test track. In ^Pan Up^ Ian has covered ambience and the market while I provide the technical description.

Introducing the Vivarail project in the December 2014 column, I admitted to being in a quandary. On the one hand a rival D78 stock conversion seemed a complete non-starter. On the other hand, at Vivarail Adrian Shooter had assembled a team of engineers for whom I have the highest regard.

So I wrote a technical description of Vivarail^s proposal, expressed some reservations over the practicality of the underfloor Ford automotive engines and reserved further comment until I could see the D-Train in the metal. Some readers were less charitable and asked why I hadn^t said what I really thought of the concept.

For our test run we bimbled around the Quinton track reaching a maximum speed of 30-35 mile/h. The five cylinder engines purring away under the floor were less noticeable than, say, a Cummins in a Meridian. When we started power pick-up was smooth and vibration free and the ride was agreed by my fellow travellers to be better than a Pacer (not difficult). You can find the sound level measurements in Mr Walmsley^s column.

Engineering
However, my main interest was in the workshop where conversion of the other two vehicles for the demonstration unit was advanced. With the second powered vehicle up on stands it was possible examine the underfloor equipment layout and the column has an illustrated guide to what goes where and how.

There was one disappointment. It was not possible to look inside one of the engine modules produced by Revolve Technologies. However, Vivarail subsequently provided a photograph, which gives an indication of the packaging.

Early criticism of the Vivarail project focused on the lack of crashworthiness of the cab ends. But from inside the cab the safety cage is massive and has been beefed up following the crash test. Mr Walmsley reckons protection is superior to a Pacer and could even be better than the Class 150 front end.

Spend.
So far Vivarail has spent around ^4million on the project and it shows in the quality of the engineering. Based on the capital rental figures provided by Vivarail I estimate the cost of a converted Class 230 vehicle at around ^800,000, roughly half the price of a putative new DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit).

Certification of the demonstrator three car Class 230 is scheduled by the end of this year. Testing in passenger service will follow ^in the new year^, initially on the Plymouth-Gunnislake branch fulfilling a requirement in the First Great Western Direct Award franchise agreement.

This has exposed some interesting internal DfT» (Department for Transport - about) politics. Rail Minister Claire Perry, who is clearly not a Vivarail fan, claimed in a recent written answer that the obligation in the FGW (First Great Western) franchise agreement covers only an initial feasibility study. According to Claire, the franchise agreement makes clear that any proposals for a trial that might derive from that report would be subject to a separate decision by the Secretary of State and would be subject to initial examination confirming likely viability.

Well, FGW inspected the first vehicle back in July and has begun planning for the trial. So it looks as though ^likely viability^ has been confirmed and someone in New Minster House has given the go ahead. As ever, is it Claire or the civil servant who drafted the reply the one out of the loop?
36  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Scottish Borders Railway - rebuilt Waverley Route link to Edinburgh on: September 22, 2015, 16:47:50
Not sure if the source is accurate, but I've read in the past that there is one loco which can run tender-first at 60mph (see here).

That may be true but posts on this thread a year before do not suggest 76079 benefits from a higher limit, and it would seem surprising tbh.
37  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Scottish Borders Railway - rebuilt Waverley Route link to Edinburgh on: September 21, 2015, 23:53:55
I'd also suggest that a run around facility near Tweedbank should be high on the list of future enhancements, to avoid the need for two locos and enable steam haulage both ways, which would reduce costs and increase the attractiveness of the steam proposition. 

Running backwards 'tender-first' is limited to 45mph, so steam haulage both ways would almost certainly require a turntable as well - an expensive prospect, and not one that could be justified without knowing how successful these trips prove.
38  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - after Coronavirus to 2045 / Re: IEP - Capacity shortfall or plenty of seats? on: March 25, 2015, 16:23:53
My concern is that with so few full length trains and with most being half length, that a great many services will be operated by half length units.

If the alternative is 19 HSTs (High Speed Train) that simply isn't the case - with the extra capacity per carriage, the extra carriages per train, and the wider increase in services also being proposed this represents a considerable improvement.
39  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - after Coronavirus to 2045 / Re: IEP - Capacity shortfall or plenty of seats? on: March 25, 2015, 00:11:10
If they are going to run as 10-car all the time, that would largely settle the capacity concerns on that route (south Wales and the Cotswolds still looking in trouble) but then you'd be paying for 10-car when you only need 9-car to provide the same number of seats if you had fixed formation 9-car units instead.

I see no need, nor desire, to run full length sets all the time - if that was the intention they wouldn't have bothered with all the 5-car sets.

Clearly the fleet composition is designed to give them flexibility, to tailor train lengths to the expected demand rather than have full length trains to Penzance at all times and that seems perfectly sensible to me.

40  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - after Coronavirus to 2045 / Re: IEP - Capacity shortfall or plenty of seats? on: March 24, 2015, 18:10:22
I don't see any reason to think services will be mainly 5-car - there have been consistent suggestions that 19 trains, new or retained, would be needed for services to the West Country and this would fit with the 18 9/10-car sets the new fleet will allow.
41  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - after Coronavirus to 2045 / Re: Independently Powered EMU to be tested on: January 18, 2015, 12:43:32
On a serious note, though, these would be ideally suited to routes such as Waterloo to Exeter if they could take power from any or all of third rail, overhead and battery (although not at the same time of course).

Alas they don't have anywhere near enough battery power for Waterloo-Exeter services, this RTM ((and RTFM) Read The Manual!) article has the key targets for this trial:

- a range of 50km (regional service)
- an acceleration and speed similar to a DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit)
- operational cycles of 30km battery and 50km overhead
- a lifetime of five to seven years
- a ^high level of intrinsic safety^

At best it could manage a branch service that involves a decent amount of running under wires but they are hardly ten-a-penny and should have a decent business case for conventional wiring, so may only be viable as an interim measure if the cost of new rolling stock can be justified.

Chris
42  Journey by Journey / Transport for London / Re: Crossrail/Elizabeth Line. From construction to operation - ongoing discussion on: October 09, 2014, 20:59:35
A map of the proposed Crossrail WCML (West Coast Main Line) link has appeared as part of HS2 (The next High Speed line(s)) Ltd's community consultations, with thanks to an eagle-eyed poster on London Reconnections:

http://assets.hs2.org.uk/sites/default/files/event_speakers/LWM-HS2-EN-MAP-010-000002-P06.pdf

Fully segregated from the Dudding Hill line with turnback sidings, this looks likely to be the route put forward in the forthcoming consultation.

Chris
43  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture - related rail and other transport issues / Re: ScotRail franchise on: October 09, 2014, 18:19:56
It has also been reported that there will be 27 HSTs (High Speed Train) for 'Scotrail Intercity' services between Inverness and Aberdeen and down to the Central Belt.

Chris
44  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - after Coronavirus to 2045 / Re: Have your say on a proposed London Overground station at Old Oak on: October 09, 2014, 15:49:49
I am rather worried that as far as i can see non of the propsals show the link from Acton to Acton Wells. This is the major link off the FGWL mainline for both North South and east London and beyond It carries heavy freight traffic, containers to and from  East Coast ports and stone traffic for various outer London terminals. Plus passenger trains to Euston when WCML (West Coast Main Line) is  blocked and interegional excursions/specials. And when electrified it would enable Gatwick Heathrows!

Also the OOC (Old Oak Common (depot)) to Greenford line is not shown.  I consider that it should be electrified at least to Greenford plus the  Loop should be used to enable some Crossrail trains currently planned to terminate at Eastbourne Terrace to terminate at West Ealing with an interchange station at North Acton.

The diagrams are simplified for clarity, if you look at the documents on the consultation page there are more detailed maps showing other rail infrastructure such as the Dudding Hill Line.

The OOC-Greenford line is not relevant to this proposal but will be affected by the Crossrail link to the WCML, for which a separate consultation is expected shortly.

Chris
45  Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Re: Extending Crossrail to Reading - ongoing discussion, merged topic on: May 27, 2014, 20:36:38
I just checked and the Class 700 EMU (Electric Multiple Unit)'s coming (eventually) to FGW (First Great Western) as an add-on to the FCC (First Capital Connect) order are 100 mph for FCC, but maybe they can be upped to 110 mph for the GWML (Great Western Main Line) like the Class 350/1's on the WCML (West Coast Main Line) have been "to make better use of train paths" (according to Wikipedia).

Not quite, the Class 700 units are specifically for Thameslink services.

However Thameslink will get an interim fleet of 110mph 387s which could be used on Great Western services once the 700s have arrived.

110mph would help but we are back to the same differences we currently have with the turbos and 125's if the IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project.) class 800 is increased to 140mph although this is only possible with a completely new signaling system and this would also help with the pathing.

Don't forget that the GWML is being resignalled with ERTMS (European Rail Traffic Management System.) at the same time as electrification, so this will provide the necessary cab signalling for 140mph - the effect on capacity will remain however, probably ruling out higher speeds for the foreseeable future.

Chris
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