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31  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: Oyster Cards for Bristol - an ongoing issue, with no real progress so far? on: November 15, 2017, 05:37:36 PM
Thread revival prompted by me reading this (Polish news link)[url] today. It's about a promotion run from 5th October for tickets on buses and trams in various Polish towns. The price was reduced to 1 zloty (about 20p) if you bought them via mPay, a mobile payment app, using a card registered on Masterpass. Masterpass is a digital wallet app run by Mastercard but you can also use Visa and Maestro cards with it.

The tickets covered in the promotion were of various types normally costing from 1.10 zl up to 5.00 zl, so some of the discounts were rather huge. The first tranche of 100,000 promotional tickets sold out by the end of the month and the second finished last Wednesday. The promotion has now finished and the article makes no attempt to predict whether ticket sales will stay at the higher level nor does it actually give a figure for the increase in sales over normal. It does say that in the third quarter of this year, 4 million urban transport tickets were sold using mobile apps in the 10 largest cities in Poland for a total value of 11.5 million zlotys. mPay is the third most popular of these apps.
32  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: Bus Stops in The Centre, Bristol on: November 14, 2017, 06:26:51 PM
The music hadn't really stopped on Saturday. Still areas fenced off, including one pedestrian crossing, though I think probably all the roads were finished, at least to the extent of being open with maybe a couple of signs still needing to be put up.
33  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: Bus Stops in The Centre, Bristol on: November 14, 2017, 11:42:41 AM
The official First map doesn't show any detail in a blob roughly from Temple Meads to Millennium Square and Stokes Croft to Bedminster Bridge, so I don't hold out much hope of a detailed bus stop map for the new! enhanced! we hope we're going to like it this time! centre.
34  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - 2018 to 2045 / Re: Planning your town for your children, their children and their children on: November 14, 2017, 11:32:05 AM
A useful source for "colour-blind" friendly colours is:
http://colorbrewer2.org/#type=sequential&scheme=BuGn&n=3
not just for maps!

I sometimes use a web site that renders your page as a colour blind person would see it.  Not on may normal computer (and on a train) as I write, so don't have a link to hand.
Someone I know who is colour blind (red-green I think, but I can't remember for sure) says "Ideally it should all make sense when printed in grey-scale". Cos sometimes it will be, anyway. But your point that "bus" is more important than which bus, is a good one.
35  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: No seat reservations - What's the ettiquette, please? on: November 14, 2017, 10:05:04 AM
Which is worth taking into consideration - the walk-up standard class fare for that route is between 40.60 and 48.60, so I at least wouldn't feel confident in trying to turf someone out if I'd only paid 8 for my ticket and they might have paid full price.

I've done it. During one of my split ticket sojourns to Blackpool, I found a rather objectionable young man of seemingly Russian extraction sitting in the seat that had been ordained to be mine. That was on the Cheltenham to New Street leg, where Cross Country had practically paid for the privilege of carrying me. He didn't want to move at first, but did so eventually when I threatened to get the train manager (I may have inadvertently mis-translated that as "Spetsnaz") albeit without so much as a "Spasiba".

On an earlier trip, I turfed a young lady out of my seat. She produced a ticket to prove it was hers - she had the right seat number, but the wrong carriage. She was mortified because she had kicked an elderly gentlemen out at Gloucester, but she went, presumably to kick him out again. Unfortunately, her gorgeous young friend, who occupied the seat opposite mine, went with her.
I've done that.  Embarrassed Misread the A that rather uselessly indicates "airline style seating" as carriage A. Luckily I hadn't turfed anyone out, so it was only me who had to traipse up to carriage Z.
36  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - 2018 to 2045 / Re: Planning your town for your children, their children and their children on: November 13, 2017, 03:16:49 PM
Just a comment on your document; you have bus routes in purple, pink and peach. I had to look very closely to distinguish "pink" from "peach". It might be clearer if you choose some more contrasting colours? Or maybe run it past someone who's colour blind, if you know anyone (I'm not!).
37  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: Bristol: A stupid city? on: November 13, 2017, 09:21:53 AM
A Bristol congestion charge? I don't know how much that would help but I can vaguely see it happening sometime. My feeling is it might not reduce traffic entering the city centre much of itself, but that its existence could be used as a justification for other measures that would (such improved public transport of various natures, strategic road closures, removal of parking, etc).
38  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: Bristol: A stupid city? on: November 11, 2017, 08:06:56 PM
Except that:

1. Who or what is this 'Bristol' that wishes to save money? Maybe we should put the whole Arena topic to a referendum? Actually maybe not; we'd end up having to to call it Arena-y Mc Arenaface, and being tied to having it staffed by 7 space faeries, all called David.
2. We may, just possibly, get a small concert and performance art centre near Temple Meads. And if so, there's a good chance it may be called the Cattle Market Tavern.
3. The BrabArena won't happen. Bristol would never fund something that would largely benefit those utter non-Bristolians who live in Patchway and Bradley Stoke.
4. I reckon I have another 20 or 30 years if I'm lucky. I doubt I'll live to see the Henbury Loop.
Hey, McArenal!
https://youtu.be/anzzNp8HlVQ
39  Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon / Re: Rugby or the Community? Protests about GWR service changes at Sandy Park on: November 11, 2017, 12:38:13 PM
Sorry, that was me misinterpreting this sentence:
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In the summer of 2012 the club announced a five-year plan to redevelop the ground to hold 20,600,
In fact I'm not sure it was even that sentence I saw originally, but something along those lines. 12,500 is the current capacity it gives.
40  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: Tram overturns in Croydon - 7 killed, 51 injured - 9 Nov 2016 on: November 11, 2017, 12:30:41 PM
They might do better to use the tiredness the device uncovers to force the operators to confront those issues. It might be better for all of us, in fact.
41  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: Bristol: A stupid city? on: November 11, 2017, 12:28:50 PM
I don't think the Bristol v South Glos split can be blamed or thanked for the existence of Cribbs Causeway. Every city and large town has an out of town shopping destination nowadays. And even some not so large ones, like Street. They don't appeal to me but they clearly do to a lot of people.
42  Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon / Re: Rugby or the Community? Protests about GWR service changes at Sandy Park on: November 10, 2017, 12:24:10 PM
There doesn't need to be additional line capacity if the shuttle train ferries rugby fans from EXD to DIG and back again with no intermediate stops, while the trains that normally run on the Avocet Line at that time are replaced by buses. Of course that does mean taking a decision to prioritise on "group" of passengers above others, which could lead to all sorts of complications.
43  Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon / Re: Rugby or the Community? Protests about GWR service changes at Sandy Park on: November 10, 2017, 11:15:35 AM
This is the problem for you to solve:

- You have a single track railway, with 1 passing place at Topsham, and a minimum frequency of 2 trains per hour, an end-end journey must only take a maximum of half an hour
- You have short platforms which will accommodate 2, 4 or 5 carriages depending on the make up of the train - these are non-gangwayed stock with no SDO
- You have a lot of people trying to get to and from 2 separate stations within a 2 hour window.
- You have regular passengers trying to board overcrowded trains at intermediate stations.
- A delay alighting and boarding these passengers can take between 5 and 20 minutes.
- You have a lot of through passengers from the rest of Devon trying to get to Exeter Central at the same time.
- Your services run Barnstaple -> Exmouth -> Paignton -> Exmouth -> Barnstaple (in the general)
- Your passengers want the fewest changes and to remain on the train to their destination
Thankfully it's for railway people to solve, not me! But it does look as if TG is right, the railway cannot cope with the rugby traffic. As it's the rugby generating it, could the Exeter Chiefs be persuaded to "sponsor" a platform extension and a match-time shuttle train from EXD to DIG?
44  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: Bristol: A stupid city? on: November 10, 2017, 09:29:47 AM
I'm not sure trains to Cribbs would be compatible with the ethos of the place!
45  Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon / Re: Rugby or the Community? Protests about GWR service changes at Sandy Park on: November 10, 2017, 09:27:33 AM
My initial thought is that the regular service should be regular and the sporadic events which generate additional traffic should be catered for with either extra services, eg direct from Exeter St Davids to Sandys Park, if possible, or buses. As these events are not in fact sporadic but are known at the start of the rugby season (when does that start? September?), it should be fairly simple to organise buses, if needed, from eg St Davids to Sandys Pk, in advance.

But then if the extra traffic is in fact more than the regular traffic, it actually seems more sensible to put that on the train and provide a bus service for the smaller number of non-rugby passengers. It's not clear whether the rugby fans using trains do outnumber the non-rugby passengers, just saying if that's the case. I guess the same applies to the football, though I'm guessing Exeter FC is a fairly lowly football club whereas Exeter rugby is pretty big (League 2 v Premiership).

Of course in Bristol it would be easier cos the football (one of) and the rugby are in the same stadium; but as there's no Ashton Gate station even planned, it doesn't apply.  Undecided

Edit: Rugby stadium capacity 20,600. Football 6,087. (Both from wikipedia).
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