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1  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: The last HSTs to leave Paddington in passenger service - 18 May 19 on: May 18, 2019, 11:17:04 pm
This day was long awaited yet seems to have came so quick, around this time last year I remember there was heavy rain and restrictions were lifted, and standing there in the rain at Didcot for a rammed HST to come. Itís not the same as a rammed voyager or a rammed 800.

Sadly, I didnít plan it out and my last HST was January time. I watched the GWR Facebook livestream from Paddington earlier.

Farewell Class 43.
2  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues on: May 15, 2019, 08:21:21 pm
With the launch of the Azuma I have watched many videos of the train and this is what I can gather from the interior:

I have once been on a IET with a failed PIS (meaning the info screens were down) leading to reservations being outright cancelled and (before the Stonehouse extension) the Peer Trainer and the Trainee Train Manager had to walk up the train telling passengers where they could alright. They have signs at the end of the carriage with info on the coach and other useful bits of information.

As the wheelchair spaces are in coaches A and L, LNER has developed a common sense attitude where they have now made coach H the quiet coach so wheelchair passengers do not have to sit in the quiet carriage..

Obviously, the buffet-trolley system is a good option (with reasons I do not need to point out) and the fact that First Class customers get a more ďFirst ClassĒ service with meals and crockery being used is an upside.

LNER has been able to launch the train to the best of its ability rather than GWR releasing it without the updated moquette, without proper signage, without checks to the reservation system and applicable updates and didnít launch it on one of the busiest services they operate.

Yes, GWR had less time due to leasing but could there have been another way around this?

3  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues on: May 10, 2019, 09:31:56 pm
Itís disappointing to see that debates are still very much a thing regarding the class 800s with what seems to be similar if not the same issues being argued since 19 months ago when the train launched. As someone who uses them a couple of times a week it was sad to think that I didnít know I was on my last HST back in February, however, the 800s have simply became somewhat normal to me and they have grown on me.

They have too many issues still and I full acknowledge that, however, I can see most of them being sorted within the next couple of years - GWR and NR are still to release the new timetable, finish electrification works as well as training new and current staff.

In terms of catering, who would have thought of a genius idea such as a Buffet and a Trolly (cough Virgin Trains and LNER) which will he continued on the Azumas, yes it costs money to run this, however, is it impossible to have never been considered? GWR now offer certain weekend options on selected services for First Class customers, and the two times I travelled on the 11:15 to Paddington from Gloucester I had a First Class customer host offering the menu (dates havenít been updated however I believe that the menu is still in operation)

From my own view, being a regular user of the train, or does the job just fine when it works, however, itís getting it to work which is the issue.
4  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Glastonbury Festival founder Michael Eavis receives locomotive honour - BBC News on: April 12, 2019, 05:52:21 pm

Regarding Cheltenham services all Iíve heard is that from December the plan is to go hourly throughout the day, seven days a week, using IETs, with fairly substantial journey time reductions.  Have you heard different?

An extension through to Birmingham.

 Grin Did you hear that on April fools? There is no way on earth I could ever see that happening...
5  Journey by Journey / London to Swindon and Bristol / Re: Swindon Station to Town Centre "Gateway" Paving To Be Redone on: April 11, 2019, 11:28:36 pm
I was in Swindon today and noticed these works.

Opted for the bus to the outlet.. is the underpass still closed?
6  All across the Great Western territory / Diary - what's happening when? / Re: Timetable and other upcoming changes - overview (from GWR) last Monday on: April 09, 2019, 07:35:50 pm
Letís hope this is the 16:42 that was planned for May 2016!

I spy at the end of May there seems to be a new 16:37

Changes in May this year (2019) are hampered by the requirement for them to fit in with the current timetable structure

This new 16:3716:36 service, as Graham has stated, fits into the existing schedule, by removing the current 16:36 to Didcot

To counter balance it, I also spy a new 09:19 service from Cheltenham arriving Paddington at 11:32

(Late reply, sorry, havenít been on here for a long time)

I have noticed this and since booked tickets next month to travel on it. Perfect for my weekend and leisure travels as I donít want to be up too early but 10:51 always seems too late!
7  All across the Great Western territory / Diary - what's happening when? / Re: Timetable and other upcoming changes - overview (from GWR) last Monday on: March 03, 2019, 03:13:46 am
Is Cheltenham still going direct to Paddington hourly/Bristol 4x an hour?
8  Journey by Journey / Portsmouth to Cardiff / Re: Theoretical Design For A New DMU For Portsmouth-Cardiff Services on: March 03, 2019, 03:12:12 am
5 car IETs should do.
Build some more 10 car (not 5+5) IETs, mechanically similar to and interchangeable with the present fleet but with a proper inter-city internal fit out.
Use these new inter-city IETs on the longer distance and more important GWR services, and transfer some of the existing 5 car units to Cardiff-Portsmouth.

My well known objections to IETs are not primarily on engineering or technical grounds, but are due to the downgraded passenger experience on routes previously operated by proper inter-city trains.

I have little objection to additional full length IETs being built with proper inter-city internal arrangements, and cascading the shorter and lower specification units to secondary routes.
New IETs should be more affordable than the first lot.
Maintenance should be simplified if the new units are mechanically like the existing fleet, differing only in internal fittings, equipment and layout.
One type of train from the driving P.O.V. simplifying training and rostering.
Already approved by the various regulatory agencies, unlike a new design.

And how will they be cheaper?
What you gonna say to Bristol/Cheltenham/Cotswolds people who need shorter trains to provide service change?
Who is going to pay for the ďintercity internal arrangementsĒ and will it provide seating capacity improvements?

9  All across the Great Western territory / Diary - what's happening when? / Re: Timetable and other upcoming changes - overview (from GWR) last Monday on: March 01, 2019, 08:05:41 pm
May 2019 - one more Cheltenham - Paddington (service, round trip or diagram?)

Letís hope this is the 16:42 that was planned for May 2016!
10  Journey by Journey / London to South Wales / Re: Awaiting train crew on: February 27, 2019, 11:29:08 pm
Hi All
On the 17.56 from Cardiff to London, been waiting at Bristol Parkway for train crew. This is a new one on me.


It does happen.  There are traincrew changes scheduled here and if the relief crew are delayed by late running of their previous job, that's it

Interesting to note the original surprise, as often wondered if there is just a general lack of appreciation of the logistical side to running a railway that has shifts over a 24 hour period.  I'd suspect most who travel on trains operate 37-40 hour weeks so might not encounter the phenomenon that is shift work, so don't have anyone doing their job before they enter the office, nor taking over from them when their "shift" ends.

All the time i worked in more office based environments, be it local government or private company, we never talked about the shift we worked!

I plan to jack in my job and go for Conductor or Train Manager next year as I have always wanted to be one since I was well 11. It is certainly more complex than the people who go to twitter to moan about their 1 minute delay... especially when staff try their upmost to keep passengers informed.
11  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Infrastructure problems in Thames Valley causing disruption elsewhere - ongoing, since Oct 2014 on: February 27, 2019, 11:23:14 pm
Warm enough for a barbecue Grin

Could have had one on the boiling IET I was on earlier - the driver saw the forecast for rain on sunday it seems!
12  Journey by Journey / London to South Wales / Re: Awaiting train crew on: February 27, 2019, 11:20:06 pm
Drivers work off legal hours as well, and they wonít use a spare for a 5-10 minute wait as it could have a knock on effect on other services.
13  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway since September 2017 - ongoing discussion on: February 24, 2019, 12:32:13 pm
Still better than the non existent service last year
14  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: Cutdown 125's to operate Penzance to Plymouth clockface service on: February 23, 2019, 11:40:10 pm
All I know is that GW02 is still on crew training at St Philips.
15  Journey by Journey / Cross Country services / Re: Bristol TM to Stansted Airport direct from May 2019 on: February 11, 2019, 07:56:32 am
Nice to see an extra (fast) morning service from Gloucester.
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