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1  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Problems with IET trains from April 2021 on: June 03, 2021, 10:09:52 am
The 06-06 Bristol Temple meads to Worcester is reported today as being 3 car instead of 5 car for part of the journey. Source is Journey check.

That's a 3 + 2 unit (probably turbo) being replaced by a single unit.  Reading between the lines, the 2 cars which come off at Gloucester at 07:12 normally join a 2 car train that calls there at 07:46 on its way from Worcester Shrub Hill (leaves at 07:07) on its way to Weymouth (11:00).  Today, that's showing as a 3 car off Worcester, so just a single carriage down.   Not quite a direct replacement of an IET (Intercity Express Train) by a turbo as is happening on the Bedwyn services.  Of course, this reduction might be explained by the need to find that shuttle unit.

Plans for summer 2020 were for an hourly IET from Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington:
- http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/nrtt20summer/Table%20125.pdf
For summer 2021, one in three of those services are cut back to Cheltenham Spa to Swindon, saving (I think) one IET diagram
- http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/nrtt21summer/Table%20125.pdf
but that has nothing to do with the problems with IET availability unless the Network Rail folks have a reliable Crystal Ball.



I noticed this the other week and found it disappointing. We were promised for years an hourly service to London Paddington throughout the day and for many years have endured GWRs (Great Western Railway) go to "problem solving" which involves everyone crams onto a Bristol/South Wales service and change at Swindon whenever there's a slight delay...
2  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Problems with IET trains from April 2021 on: May 09, 2021, 09:50:46 am
FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) and broadgage answers thereto.

What about the lack of TPWS (Train Protection and Warning System) on a heritage loco ? Give a derogation or exemption for branch line use. Remembering that these are LESS BUSY than some heritage lines and are therefore very low risk.

What about the lack of Cab secure secure radio on heritage trains ? If portable equipment is not available then issue Inmarsat satellite telephones for emergency use, AND cellphones for routine use.

What about the lack of central door locking ? Have stewards to watch each door, volunteers from a preserved line could probably do this for free, for the fun of taking part in such a rare event.

What about lack of route knowledge ? Have a GWR (Great Western Railway) driver on each train to advise WRT (with regard to ) speed limits and signals. Actual driving to be done by someone familiar with the train.

What about emergency procedures ? Two guards, one from GWR and one familiar with the heritage stock being used.



I highly doubt that any "emergency" stock that is available would be available for use on the network. Drivers won't have signed them, neither guards, engineers will he unable to deal with any problems if they arrive, they (possibly) won't have been cleared for most of the network and some will have major passenger safety concerns in terms of compliance with regulations. You then move into problems like depot space, working with the line speed, short platforms, COVID signage compliance etc etc.

If you are a TOC (Train Operating Company) looking at this the difficulty of hiring stock would seem far to problematic.

3  Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / More services for the Worcester to Bristol belt? on: September 06, 2020, 10:13:28 pm
The MP (Member of Parliament) for Gloucester is suggesting that a new every 30 minute service will launch to Bristol and Worcester be 2021.

I've been 'out of the loop' for trains for a while - is this new news or old news? (Remove if discussed elsewhere)

Tweet in question: https://twitter.com/richardgrahamuk/status/1302345970722713602?s=21
4  Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: Stonehouse (Bristol Road) - re-opening of station? on: August 21, 2020, 04:43:15 pm
I understand that many want Stonehouse to have its current station on the Golden Valley line AND a station at Bristol Road.

Meanwhile, Gloucester (pop. 100k plus) and Cheltenham (pop. 100k plus) only have one station - one of which is disconnected from the mainline.

It would make much more sense to open a station in the Hunts Grove area of Gloucester - as development over in the south of the city has been quite significant as of recent. This could then serve connections from the Golden Valley line towards Bristol, possibly see a couple of CrossCountry services and prove a more cost-worthy project.

A complex issue ... I would not like to come to any conclusion on the balance between the current and latent flows, and how new flows might develop with station, service and connections changes ... all laid on top of what can be practically provided.

For traffic from STROUD to Bristol, a new station at Bristol Road would do little - people would be unlikely to walk between the two stations.  A station somewhat north of Standish, also serving the south of Gloucester would make sense as an interchange for that flow, but on the other hand it would not provide the direct Stonehouse to Bristol service.   And has anyone mentioned the growth up the Stroud Valley at places like Chalford?   I offer no solution - I do point out to Charlie that they are on one main line - from South Wales to Birmingham and Nottingham, but agree that all the expresses passing towards the South West through the outskirts of the city, but not stopping, is frustrating.

I guess you are right about Gloucester being on the mainline - just disconnected from CrossCountry services.

Obviously in the past there has been much conversation around Gloucester and it's railway station - with ideas surrounding a station near Elmbridge Court and one on the railway triangle.  As most of us probably know both proved to have complications.

The reason I would campaign for a station around the Hunts Road area of Gloucester is for three reasons:

- A: There has been significant housing development around this area in the past decade and would probably prove somewhat successful for commuters to Bristol and in the Swindon direction.

- B: Connections could be (quite drastically) be improved for those travelling from Stroud and Stonehouse who wish to travel towards Bristol or even Cheltenham. Leading into point C...

- C: There COULD be a case to call SOME CrossCountry services that (currently) travel non-stop between Bristol Parkway and Cheltenham Spa.

Obviously, it would cause many operational challenges. Would there be a case to call London-bound and services from London at a new station? Would there be a case to call CrossCountry services here? What effect would this have on journey times? Would services that reverse at Gloucester be reduced?

But it would certainly make more sense - in my opinion - than having a station for a fairly small-ish town that would not improve connections for people outside of the town.
5  Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: Stonehouse (Bristol Road) - re-opening of station? on: August 21, 2020, 01:18:54 pm
I understand that many want Stonehouse to have its current station on the Golden Valley line AND a station at Bristol Road.

Meanwhile, Gloucester (pop. 100k plus) and Cheltenham (pop. 100k plus) only have one station - one of which is disconnected from the mainline.

It would make much more sense to open a station in the Hunts Grove area of Gloucester - as development over in the south of the city has been quite significant as of recent. This could then serve connections from the Golden Valley line towards Bristol, possibly see a couple of CrossCountry services and prove a more cost-worthy project.
6  All across the Great Western territory / Introductions and chat / Re: No news is good news on: August 18, 2020, 06:20:29 pm
An outsiders view here - but dare I say a brief step back from things generally supports the re-starting?

I am returning to commuting very soon and trialled it yesterday - it was the most peaceful and stress free journey I've ever had.
7  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - after Coronavirus to 2045 / Re: Patterns of returning passengers? on: August 16, 2020, 10:12:31 pm
Is there a possibility that people are taking advantage of the fact that on-board of ticket examinations have been suspended?

And on that matter - are they still suspended or has revenue protection continued? As soon as it does the better.
8  Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: Gloucester to Hereford via Ross on Wye on: August 15, 2020, 12:45:51 pm
I haven't contributed to this forum in a little while however all of us have had a hectic year so many things I haven't found the time for.

I used to go to school in Newent - I left about 6 years ago. I commuted via the school service that was provided from my area in Gloucester. Generally the service was fine and I saw the building of a bus lane down the A40 that really did help at peak times.

The bus service is - meh. You can get to Ross-On-Wye using the 32 bus (the long way) or the 33 bus giving a combined frequency of every hour. It could be worse, although doesn't really promote the use of the bus network. In some cases there are gaps of 90 minutes in the 32 service and it ends up clashing with the 33.

Being from Gloucester - I am obviously going to back the case for a railway line along here. The A40 between Highnam and Gloucester is the city's key commuter belt. We have been graced recently by the hourly London service, are soon to be graced by a twice hourly Cardiff service and maybe one day we might get that forever promised twice hourly Bristol service.

There is only so much you can do to relieve congestion on the roads and to me it feels like not much else can be used around there. Mentioned above was a park and ride service from Westbury-on-Severn which could work - if the bus lane was extended.

I think there is a case for a railway line and it should be looked at. If connections were improved between the Forest of Dean, Gloucester and Hereford then I think it will be an all round positive thing for the two counties.
9  Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: 'Bath is ready to have things done' on: September 02, 2019, 01:44:05 pm
When will we know if finishing electrification will happen in CP6 (Control Period 6 - The five year period between 2019 and 2024)? If not I’d assume it will be postponed even further intonCP7/8?
10  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: LNER To trial simpler fares on: September 01, 2019, 11:29:31 am
As much as I think that this is a good start to improving ticketing, there is clearly a lot more to do. As someone who travels regularly, I can just about get my head around the ticketing system. For somebody travelling to Cornwall in the holidays for the first time, how do they know they are getting value for money?

Most travellers I speak to book via the trainline. The misleading advertising saying that they have “cheaper fares” is simply not true, it often just shows you slower trains or different times in a more obvious way. They also charge a booking fee (unless booking on the day) which is a rip off.

Paper tickets are becoming ever more confusing. Soon I will be using the train to travel to Birmingham International airport with another person - and the whole booking system wasn’t exactly ‘simple’. The paper tickets don’t provide the best information and I really think that QR (QR Code - Quick Response code) code style barcodes should be used to check the validity of a ticket and at the exit gate-line/on the train be logged as used.GWR (Great Western Railway) don’t use the paper style long tickets on HSS (High Speed Services) services because of LU.
11  Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: Petition - Reopen Pilning Station's 2nd platform and make it a request stop on: August 30, 2019, 11:56:07 am
Ultimately it barely serves nearby Pilning village, and yes it would be ideal to have connections to the South Wales Mainline however it’s statistics only increased after the campaign to reopen the second platform was made public. A lot of the passengers are enthusiasts or travellers who find the station interesting. Before this it was getting usage below 100 people per year.

If you are going to improve the station you might as well go all out, asking for 2tph to serve it is optimistic.
12  Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon / Re: GWR December 2019 TT on: August 28, 2019, 10:09:39 pm
Not from knowledge but observation there seems to be more 150/2s in pairs and 143's in pairs this summer although with the occasional 2 coach train still runs. I just bet they will not let the 143s go. In the North they already keeping some into 2020.

Also the artists impression of the rebuilt Exeter Depot showed 3 coach 158s

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=20516.15

I really don’t think the artist who designed those images is the same person who decides the train lengths come December   Wink
13  Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon / Re: GWR December 2019 TT on: August 28, 2019, 05:31:48 pm
Will there be enough DMUs (Diesel Multiple Unit) to run the planned services in Devon and Cornwall from December? At the present time GWR (Great Western Railway) regularly struggle to fulfil 3 / 4 car diagrams as there really is no spare capacity, meaning that short formed trains are a regular occurrence.

One Exmouth/Barnstaple/Paignton diagram is currently 2 car. One 150/2 currently works in the Bristol area.

By the 31st December all eight of the 143s must leave and there are also question marks over how long the 3 x Angel 150/2s will remain; also the future of the 2 x 150/0s is unclear.

As I understand it a couple of Turbos will be able to switch move from Reading to Bristol from the start of the new timetable. No more will be able to transfer until the Flex trains are in service but, on present progress, that isn’t going to be any time soon!

I believe that there are currently 10 Castle Class diagrams, so not much more leeway there. I am open to correction on this one.

Three 3 car 158s have to be found to work the Tarka (Line from Barnstaple to Exeter) Line.

I read that a number of 3 car 158s are being converted to 2 cars; where will these be used? 158s are needed for the Brighton services; will these be 2 or 3 cars?

Away from the summer months I calculate that GWR needs 20 x 150s to operate the planned Devon and Cornwall branch services, the exact number that they have. No fat there!

Is anyone able to provide some clarification on these issues?


GWR have spent an extra year working on the timetable to ensure that it is ship shape, I am sure enough that the planning teams have allocated trains to routes where appropriate. Unfortunately, some capacity improvements will be postponed due to various changes to plans around the Thames  Valley however all that means is retention of more sprinters.
14  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: e railcard on: August 28, 2019, 03:10:29 pm
I have used an e ticket once before and it worked just fine on the barriers however wasn’t inspected on train. I use the GWR (Great Western Railway) Touch to travel on a weekly pass now and it’s quite convenient.

I’m sure if you are trotting along the Stroud Valleys or the Cotswold Line and you struggle to get signal the Ticket Examiner/Train Manager would be understanding.
15  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Do longer duration journeys need longer trains? on: August 28, 2019, 03:08:06 pm
Building another 4 intermediate vehicles so as to make a 5 car unit into a 9 car sounds a lot more attractive.

I am sure you are aware about the deployment of 5 car vehicles after the December TT. It’s not my place to comment whether it will work out or not, however you would think that after a year of it being postponed it will be in ship shape.

I can see that in the next 30 years that we will have the IETs (Intercity Express Train) more being ordered for further frequency improvements. Ultimately, if you want to deliver some of the stuff in the Western Route Study then you are going to need more units.
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