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Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: Four track for Filton Bank - ongoing discussion
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on: November 13, 2018, 20:14:46
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Is there any plans to alter the layout east of Bristol temple meads, I wonder as some signals were not replaced, only renumbered, while at the Plymouth end they were all renewed.
Its already been 'resignalled/recontrolled' from TVSC» at Didcot, so nothing planned as far as I understand it. Next and final stage is Bristol North Somerset Junction to Box Tunnel in April 2019. Not sure if there are any CP6▸ plans to close Bristol Panel and recontrol the remaining area to TVSC (or even Exeter ROC▸ thats being planned or at least talked about). Of course, if the long mooted plan to reopen the Old Bristol Train Shed platforms comes to pass, then Bristol Panel will have to go as its in the way...... I had been told that a new I E C C. Was planned for Exeter to work to Penzance as TVSC Was now full. |
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Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: Four track for Filton Bank - ongoing discussion
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on: November 13, 2018, 19:44:07
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Gloucester Area resignaling was originally scheduled for 2021, with susposed reverse time improvements buy up to 2 minutes.
Presumable achieved with quicker entry and exit speeds into the platforms? IET▸ 's will also see reversal time improvements over HST▸ operated services as the cab is a couple of minutes quicker to set up. We will see if the timetable planners take advantage of that next December I suppose. When the IET Trains first ran into Gloucester they tried the 10 car ones and found that the platforms 1 and 2 were not long enough and had to then use platform 4. At the moment some 5 car and 9 car ones are used for now. Signals G58 and G133 on platform 2 needed to be moved slightly. I think they would be better off getting rid of platform 1 and moving to the top of platform 4. You would have two long ones plus a bay for swindon and Malvern turbos, Is there any plans to alter the layout east of Bristol temple meads, I wonder as some signals were not replaced, only renumbered, while at the Plymouth end they were all renewed. |
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Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: Four track for Filton Bank - ongoing discussion
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on: November 13, 2018, 13:56:35
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The Up and Down Filton Mains were supposedly closed due to the weak condition of the former bridge over Stapleton Road, which for several years, had a permanent speed restriction over it.
To add to that: The River Froom/Frome used to run under the northern span of the old Stapleton Road viaduct, but was diverted when the M32 was built. I'm told that as the land dried out as a consequence of this, it did for the viaduct's foundations. Obviously they could have been fixed at the time, but this was the early 80's - no-one was planning for expansion; the future of the Severn Beach line was in doubt, and two tracks would just have to do. Thanks for that, see it, say it, sorted. Severn Beach is still there and in use. One last thing for now as I have to go to Sainsburys, Are dispatch boxes now to be fitted on Bristol parkway and filton AW stations. This would be so staff would have the close door and right away function for trains. |
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Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: Four track for Filton Bank - ongoing discussion
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on: November 13, 2018, 13:40:44
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BL1815 only has Position 1, 2 and 3 JUNCTION INDICATORS. There has never been a main route from there to the UP FILTON RELIEF towards BRISTOL EAST JUNCTION, only a subsidiary one preceeded by shunt signal BL6625 leading to BARROW ROAD DEPOT.
Not at all supprised by the condition of signals at Gloucester. NR» has no money for maintenance renewals these days (although might get a little bit in CP6▸ ).
I have just been told that under CP6 That Network Rail are planning to resignal Gloucester and Cheltenham within the next 18 months, The plan he said was to put the ine from Charfield to Churchdown onto TVSC» And the line on towards Birmingham on to WMSC. Does anybody know if signal BL1511 At Bristol Parkway being replaced. Lastly the open train times map is now now out of date for the filton lines. Some signals seem to be showing OFF, when they shouldnt be. BL1511 signal isn't being renewed but will be fitted with a flashing double yellow aspect once the Filton project is completed in the new year 2019. There are some big NR boundary changes going to take place in the Gloucester/Cheltenham area in 2019. I've not heard of any resignalling plans for that area yet and I would think that "in the next 18 months" probably means the start of design work only.... Isuppose the flashing double yellow on signal BL1511 is because of the signal BL1573 Which I assume will flash a single yellow on approach to the new crossovers. |
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Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: Four track for Filton Bank - ongoing discussion
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on: November 13, 2018, 13:28:51
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Thanks for the pictures there, it showed signal no BL1815 With its pos 1 2 3 indicators on and another on the filton down when it was previously there,One thing why was the filton lines removed, only to cost NR» loads of money to put back, there is so much waste in this country.Not to mention the contents of a bin bag in my kitchen full of unnessary packaging. |
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Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: Four track for Filton Bank - ongoing discussion
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on: November 13, 2018, 13:04:04
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BL1815 only has Position 1, 2 and 3 JUNCTION INDICATORS. There has never been a main route from there to the UP FILTON RELIEF towards BRISTOL EAST JUNCTION, only a subsidiary one preceeded by shunt signal BL6625 leading to BARROW ROAD DEPOT.
Not at all supprised by the condition of signals at Gloucester. NR» has no money for maintenance renewals these days (although might get a little bit in CP6▸ ).
I have just been told that under CP6 That Network Rail are planning to resignal Gloucester and Cheltenham within the next 18 months, The plan he said was to put the ine from Charfield to Churchdown onto TVSC» And the line on towards Birmingham on to WMSC. Does anybody know if signal BL1511 At Bristol Parkway being replaced. Lastly the open train times map is now now out of date for the filton lines. Some signals seem to be showing OFF, when they shouldnt be. |
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Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: Four track for Filton Bank - ongoing discussion
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on: November 13, 2018, 12:01:29
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Its actually about 300m North of MULLER ROAD bridge (wherever that might be). If you looked it up on Google Maps (or something similar) an approximate postcode would be BS7 9NZ which takes you into a retail park: the bridge in question is next to the southern end of said retail park as are some allotments. after looking at the picture from dave harries that signal BL1818 does look a bit too tall and weired, could,nt they have just replaced the head to 4 aspect and added a junction indicator to the old one, would of been much cheaper. lastly just noticed the ones in the picture of the gantry look like the elite type, much nicer. Interesting point. The same applies to Signals BL1981 on the line from Bath Spa, just before Bristol East Junctio: BL1981 is, for whatever reason, taller than BL1983. Love the pictures, what is that thing we can see the back of, is it a new style banner repeater?.
Yes. Its BL1812BR. I hope they are leaving the banners for signal BL1580 as I loved seeing them off from a train, I assume signal BL1580 will be left as it is needed to route trains into filton by now having the pos 1 junction indicator for the turnout just beyond the station and the position 4 indicator for the route towards Bristol parkways platform 1. Sandt plans did not show signal positions on. Affraid not. They are abolished. BL1850 remains as before (but without its POSITION 4 JUNCTION INDICATOR), but is renewed due to the track slew. Pity to see the BRs▸ for BL1580 go as I also used to look at them when passing. I guess they will be kept for spares. On another point I am surprised that, when I last looked over the weekend just gone, nothing has been done with BL1815 which is the starting signal for trains from Lawrence Hill towards Doctor Days Junction. This signal has been supported by a metal pole for some time so I am surprised that no opportunity has been taken to replace it. Dave BL1815 is a signal that has pos 1 2 3 4 Junction Indicators on, or it did when I last looked, it probably is alright, Any way better than the ones we have in Gloucester as those have been there for so long that the bare metal now shows on many of them, G154 plus its pos 1 ji G54 G58 G52 G50 are some examples, Also G133 that a route indicator that has gone green and now the routes no longer show through. |
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Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: Four track for Filton Bank - ongoing discussion
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on: November 12, 2018, 19:59:32
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Love the pictures, what is that thing we can see the back of, is it a new style banner repeater?.
Yes. Its BL1812BR. I hope they are leaving the banners for signal BL1580 as I loved seeing them off from a train, I assume signal BL1580 will be left as it is needed to route trains into filton by now having the pos 1 junction indicator for the turnout just beyond the station and the position 4 indicator for the route towards Bristol parkways platform 1. Sandt plans did not show signal positions on. |
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