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1  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture - related rail and other transport issues / Re: Headcodes and train IDs: ongoing discussion. on: March 03, 2013, 18:43:08
EBrown, like I said it's possible that some timetabling departments call the RSID a headcode, but in my opinion they do so in error. It is simply not correct to state "definitively".
You cannot accept you are wrong can you? Here are the facts:
Your opinion is wrong
It is definitive. It's in the ATOC» (Association of Train Operating Companies See - here)/NR» (Network Rail - home page) data feeds - go get them yourself and check, or check with one of the names/company I've provided.

I'm well aware of who you are and for whom you work. I don't care.
I obviously can't be expected to know as much on the subject as amateur internet armchair experts.
Personal attacks are banned on this forum, need I remind you of that, since you so quickly publicly remind me?
2  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture - related rail and other transport issues / Re: Ticket problems on: March 03, 2013, 13:29:05
I still stand by my assertion that the four digits of the RSID are most definitely not the headcode, at least by a unanimous opinion amongst the staff who actually run the trains and therefore ought to know, and that whoever is telling you that is using the term incorrectly; it's possible this is common practice with timetabling but in fact having spent a fair bit of time with train planners I've never heard them use the RSID in any context at all, and they have certainly never referred to the four digits therein as a headcode. Even if timetabling staff are doing this, it's absolutely not technically correct to do so.
I am telling you definitively that is what a headcode is within timetabling. I'm afraid you are wrong in this instance. If you wish to find out more I'd suggest you talk to ATOC» (Association of Train Operating Companies See - here)/Network Rail, perhaps Tom Cairns, Peter Higgs or, if you feel brave Rockshore.

An example of the RSID being used is retail with Virgin Trains. (Which probably means retail with thetrainline too - though I cannot back up that assertion).
3  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture - related rail and other transport issues / Re: Ticket problems on: March 02, 2013, 23:50:42
Close, but not quite correct.
Yes and no... Wink

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Firstly, "reporting number" and "headcode" are used interchangeably on the operating railway to refer to the same thing, which is 1A40
That may well be the case in the operating railway, but is not the case within timetabling.

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In the example above, 1276 is most definitely not the headcode.
I'm afraid in this instance you are incorrect. The headcode forms part of the RSID, made up from the ATOC» (Association of Train Operating Companies See - here) operator code, so for the above example, it is GW1276.

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For the sake of completeness, the ten-character ID is made up as follows:

Characters 1 and 2
Every railway location in the country used as a timing point (stations, junctions, sidings...) is allocated a five-digit number called, for reasons no-one has been able to explain to me, a Stanox (Station Number (5 digit code)). As a very coarse rule of thumb, Stanox numbers count up as you go down the country geopgraphically, NW-SE, with the lowest at Thurso and the highest at Dollands Moor. Characters 1 and 2 of the ten-character ID are the first two digits of the Stanox of the location at which the train originates.

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Characters 9 and 10
The date on which the train originates (with a leading zero if it's a single digit), so the example above refers to a train originating on 24 Feb.
Thanks for the info, certainly never knew that before.

Train reporting numbers (aka headcodes [slightly wrongly]) are only used for timetabling and aren't (really) used on the operating railway in their current form. This is why there can be an overlap between different operators.
There I am certainly wrong, I got myself in a pickle it seems. Original post modified suitably.
4  Sideshoots - associated subjects / News, Help and Assistance / Re: On identifying individuals (operational staff in particular) on: March 02, 2013, 19:32:59
Richard I agree, however that isn't what this rule says. The rules primary purpose is to protect staff from staff.

I'm of the opinion that the rule is far more simple and correct if it says:
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You may not name any member of operational rail staff, forum member or member of the public without their consent or they are reasonably believed to already be in the public domain.
5  Sideshoots - associated subjects / News, Help and Assistance / Re: On identifying individuals (operational staff in particular) on: March 02, 2013, 18:19:17
Well, this is old; but I felt the need to bring it up.

You say that identifying operational staff unless we are 100% positive is wrong, but it is happening. Frankly this whole policy is unenforceable, which makes it pointless.

There are posts on this website that offer a precise timeframe at a specific station that makes identifying staff trivial to the management, colleagues and other people.


Example time: I posted in this thread. The thread is on delays at Hayes, the original post is dated 28th February. I post:
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Spoke to the Duty Station Manager (nice guy), he directed me to the ticket office.
In context that is freely available, we know this incident is on February 28th 2013, late evening. I missed the last connection. We know I was caught up in the Hayes fire that puts me at Paddington around midnight. There is only one person this Duty Station Manager could be. Originally I named this man, I was asked to remove it, but they've been identified without the name to management, colleagues and some other people, it's easy!

You say that the line is hard to draw, but the above (which easily) identifies this person, is, by your rule unacceptable. However it's about as discrete as I or anyone else can be while discussing something.

So what do you do?
6  Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Re: 28th Feb - late evening delays on: March 02, 2013, 13:07:38
I imagine this all has to be sorted at Paddington by convincing the station master who probably hasn't a clue when the last trains depart from any number of SR(resolve) terminals?
Not really difficult in anyway. Spoke to the Duty Station Manager (nice guy), he directed me to the ticket office.

The ticket office took my tickets, asked to/from stations, if I'd allowed an hour to cross London (to which my response was no, I allowed the time listed on page 44 of the Commercial Information document). Some questions followed about my choice of trains, why I broke my journey at Reading and a few other attempts to get out of paying. Then a taxi was arranged, I was told to wait for that specific one with my name in the window - a short wait followed, and I got a taxi.

7  Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Re: 28th Feb - late evening delays on: March 02, 2013, 01:51:34
May I ask where was your end destination E B?
East Kent.
8  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Reading Station improvements on: March 01, 2013, 17:04:42
In a useful move the barrier separating ticketed/unticketed traffic across the bridge has been completely removed. It felt rather spacious for the first time in years.
Indeed, the contracting company (I think Carilion) were busy taking it out and filling the holes with concrete when I passed through. I took this at 2245 last night.


I had quite a productive time actually, had a chat with Jim Holden, a bunch of (on-board) revenue staff who would be on the midnight shift telling people about the closed footbridge. Then there was a points failure and ^240 taxi, but that's in the past.
9  Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Re: 28th Feb - late evening delays on: March 01, 2013, 13:30:02
I got caught up in that, and the points failure at Reading West Junction. Myself and another passenger who missed our last connection were given taxis.

So I can't fault FGWs (First Great Western) customer service there.

Just me and my taxi and we managed to get a fair cost up (^243.60), thanks to FGW for paying.
10  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Reading Station improvements on: February 28, 2013, 17:55:19
There was an army of staff out today when I passed through Reading today informing passengers of the footbridge closure, as well as plenty of signs and announcements.
There certainly was not at 12.20 today. Maybe peak only.
11  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Reading Station improvements on: February 28, 2013, 15:34:01
Corrected. Oopsies, I knew what I meant! Smiley
12  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Reading Station improvements on: February 28, 2013, 14:29:47
Categorically, from Network Rail & FGW (First Great Western).

The existing footbridge will close at 2359 tonight (28 Feb 2013). The 'subway' will be in use tomorrow.
13  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture - related rail and other transport issues / Re: Action after boy partially blinded in Essex rail detonator explosion on: February 28, 2013, 01:07:50
As far as I'm concerned if you actively steal something, then you live with whatever the consequences of that theft is, an article asking for NR» (Network Rail - home page) blood because your son either is or associates with thieves gets no sympathy with me.

Sure Network Rail should have 80ft high dual electric fences with guard dogs and razor wire, man traps at every access point, CCTV (Closed Circuit Tele Vision) everywhere rather than a fence no higher than my knee but people also just shouldn't trespass and then steal property.

I'm clearly in ideal world land aren't I.

As a serious point, the explosives should be suitably stored - that's not debatable.

Edit, son not soon! Wink
14  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Reading Station improvements on: February 28, 2013, 01:00:53
According to GetReading, the footbridge is closed.

I think this is more a failure to publish the article on the correct day...
15  Journey by Journey / London to the Cotswolds / Re: Fixing the 07.15 from Charlbury on: February 25, 2013, 14:16:28
I thought the fastest train was the 17.22 from Paddington which takes 53 minutes. 1W07, for those who (unlike me) understand these things! (Previous post on Cotswold Line timings.)
I was referring to this:
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43 minutes it's possible!
Which was referring to this:
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I remeber hearing that Oxford - Paddington was once timetabled for 43 minutes on some of the crack expresses?!

Perhaps your sarcasm would be appropriate if, I don't know, you read my post because OXF» (Oxford - next trains) -> PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) is not the same as PAD -> OXF.


Bignosemac, you are completely correct. I was more talking hypothetically given the current timetable, but that certainly isn't clear in anyway and I hadn't really considered other paths [other than they can be moved Wink ]! Smiley
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