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1  Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: Is Highways England the best guardian for rail heritage and dormant resource? on: Today at 06:24:41 pm
But do you need planning permission to infill a bridge? I doubt it, unless it was listed by English Heritage.

As I read it, they do need planning permission ... see which reports
Highways England says that the bridges concerned are among 200 to have failed an engineering assessment to carry 44-tonne lorries and, in the absence of weight restrictions, will have to be infilled or demolished on “urgent safety grounds” to “prevent an emergency arising.”
and that Highways England have emergency powers.  It is suggested in the article that those emergency powers are being abused in many cases, as the bridges in question are on narrow lanes that a 44 tonner couldn't get down anyway.
2  Journey by Journey / TransWilts line / Re: Summer 2021 to Weymouth from Melksham (and from Swindon and Chippenham) on: Today at 12:49:49 pm
18:28      19*59-20:05   20:20 EXTRA from 10th July to 13th August (and perhaps later)

RealTimeTrains shows this as arriving at 19:56 making a more robust connection.

Ah, yes, thanks.  It's faster than the norm, missing out Chetnole, Yetminster and Thornford.
3  Journey by Journey / Thames Valley Branches / GWR Served Stations close to the River Thames on: Today at 12:05:28 pm
Inspired by a post from TonyN ... GWR (Great Western Railway) Served Stations close to the River Thames

Windsor and Eton Central
Bourne End
Goring and Streetley

Map under Creatice Commons license created by George Melashvili and cropped by myself.

There are many other stations close to The River downstream of Windsor and Eton - from Windsor and Eton Riverside all the way to Shoeburyness - with different operators.  The River can be reached in London by bus or underground from Paddington station served by GWR

If people like this page, we could follow on with stations close to other navigable waterways - different rivers, tributaries and canals.  I think we have just the expert on our team, too.
4  Sideshoots - associated subjects / Heritage railway lines, Railtours, other rail based attractions / Re: Lynton and Barnstaple Railway appeal: Bratton Fleming station back on the market on: Today at 11:06:10 am
I admire the vision of those in charge of the L&B but i was always for an extension towards Parracombe once the trackbed was purchased in 2009 and some prominent figures such as the FR's Paul Lewin have voiced the same opinion. The actual running line is less than a mile at present and hasn't moved an inch in either direction since 2005.

A step closer there - see Lynton-Rail

The L&B Trust is delighted to announce that it is the new owner of 'The Halt' at Parracombe. More importantly, not only does the L&B own another station - but perhaps more significantly, for the first time in our history - as we own all the trackbed from Woody Bay Station to and including Parracombe Halt - we have joined up two of the L&B's long-closed stations.

As part of the deal, the Trust also purchased the infilled Rowley Cross Cutting - extending our ownership of L&B trackbed all the way from Holwell Wood to Rowley Cross.

These two sections of railway are an important and vital part of extending our land holdings both towards rebuilding and reopening but also towards the length of line we need to unlock the TWAO (Transport and Works Act Order ) application. A very good start to the year and a great cause for optimism for the future!
5  Sideshoots - associated subjects / News, Help and Assistance / Re: Links to all passenger TOC company sites on: Today at 10:57:22 am
I'm having some difficulty with the size that the page is displaying,when viewed on the IPad,as of today it's not filling the screen with a blank on the right margin.

I think that is now fixed and hopefully without any other "funnies" being introduced.  Really a work-around for the iPad - looks like there's an "undocumented / unintended feature" on there relating to setting of the width of popup menus.

In curing this, I have also fixed popups for everyone else too so that they are resized to fit the content. Means that train changes between stations with long names no longer fold (was an issue, for example, with London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street)
6  Journey by Journey / TransWilts line / Summer 2021 to Weymouth from Melksham (and from Swindon and Chippenham) on: Today at 10:16:34 am
I heard from GWR (Great Western Railway) yesterday that two extra trains are running from Westbury / Bristol to Weymouth on Saturdays this summer, staring on 10th July.   More importantly, they's coming back at times that offer good connections back to Melksham, Chippenham and Swindon which was lacking until this point.

Summer 2021 - days out by train to WEYMOUTH

Day return on any of these trains - £19.60 adult, £9.80 child
Adult tickets for groups of 3 travelling together - £12.90 each
Senior, disabled and many other railcards - £12.90 per person any day
Two together railcards - £12.90 per person at weekends only

Monday to Friday
Melksham   Westbury   Weymouth
09:10      09:26-09:32   11:00
Melksham   Westbury   Weymouth
08:59      through train   10:56
09:59      10:15-10:29   12:08
Melksham   Westbury   Weymouth
10:05      through train   11:55
13:41      through train   15:51

Monday to Friday
Weymouth   Westbury   Melksham
17:23      18:53-20:06   20:21
Weymouth   Westbury   Melksham
16:10      17:40-18:35   18:50
16:54      18:22-18:35   18:50 EXTRA from 10th July to 13th August (and perhaps later)
17:28      19:01-20:05   20:20
18:28      19*59-20:05   20:20 EXTRA from 10th July to 13th August (and perhaps later)
* - Estimated
Weymouth   Westbury   Melksham
16:10      17:39-18:35   18:50
17:53      19:33-20:20   20:35

Services / connections to Weymouth were already good, 7 days a week, for the summer.    Return journeys every day of the week had a long wait at Westbury - the last thing you would want with the children, but good if you wanted to pop down to the pub at the Bottom of Station Approach for a quick bar meal.  On Saturdays from 10th July this is fixed.

Two caveats:

The extra Westbury/Weymouth service will start from Saturday 10 July, and will run throughout the first two phases of the Bristol Rail Regeneration work which finishes on Saturday 13 August.  We are now waiting final confirmation of the timetable plan for the next phase of the Bristol work, which will take the service through to Saturday 5 September.  As soon as I have news on this I will let you know.
As always, and particularly when there are major engineering works, we recommend that customers check their journey before they travel, and book tickets in advance.  While these trains are not reservable we do have a counted places system in operation on our Weymouth route to help with social distancing.
7  All across the Great Western territory / Diary - what's happening when? / Re: "Summer days out are better by train" - Community Rail Network from 30.6.21 on: Today at 09:30:24 am
From CRN(resolve) - the launch will be postponed until "a more appropriate time when we can actively promote leisure travel by rail" if the opening up on 21st June does not happen.

We will confirm our plans with you shortly after 14 June.

SOME elements relaxed ... awaiting news to update this thread.

Speaking with a member of Melksham Morris Dancers last night, she is under the impression that their event at Chippenham Station is confirmed and not dependent on the complete opening up ... there may be other events too which are not easily postponed at this point.
8  All across the Great Western territory / Diary - what's happening when? / Re: Selecting Devon and Cornwall destination(s) for day trip(s) on: Today at 09:26:38 am
I have removed the long-standing provision day out for 26th June from this thread - holding off for a date as and when things are totally open.    Not stopping me make limited trips out though, if I have time!
9  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Great Western Railway: on-board catering, buffets, Travelling Chef, Pullman - ongoing discussion on: Today at 07:02:55 am
(And take a hip flask!)  Smiley

Let's see ... not ScotRail, not TfL» (Transport for London - about) ... yes, that would be allowed.  Don't you love the consistency of rail travel!
10  Journey by Journey / Thames Valley Branches / Re: Walking between Marlow and Henley on: Yesterday at 10:02:57 pm
I will enquire a bit further - may be able to get some follow up.

I should have an answer as to whether this still applies over the next few days.   Grin

I have confirmation that the easement still applies:

'Thames Path' easement of CDR (Off Peak Day Return [ticket type] (formerly 'Cheap Day'))▸ route validity:
Twyford - Henley-on-Thames
Maidenhead - Marlow
Slough - Windsor & E. Central
CDR tickets issued to stations on the above First Great Western Link
branch lines are valid to return from stations on the other branches,
provided that the ticket is issued to the furthest point. This is to
enable customers to walk the Thames Path. This easement is therefore
sometimes referred to as the 'Thames Path Ticket'

Not only does it still apply - I am encouraged to publicise it.  A real opportunity for a great day out.  Thank you to my contacts at GWR (Great Western Railway) for following up on this and in such a positive way.
11  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: G7 Summit - Cornwall - June 2021 on: Yesterday at 05:09:22 pm
I agree that it would have been preferable for the PM to take the train rather than to fly.
I suspect that a special train would have been both cheaper and greener than flying.

Condemning the PM to an IET (Intercity Express Train) is perhaps going a bit far, but a Castle HST (High Speed Train) would seem to be suitable.

Other world leaders also set a very poor example in terms if the fuel used by numerous aircraft and road vehicles. Extinction rebellion have protested about this, near the Summit.

Flying in from around the globe in a squadron of planes, some elderly, to tell the plebs they're going to have poorer lives because we have to clean up the atmosphere isn't great optics.

I suspect the Communist Party of China, (they're opening coal fired power stations ad-libitum in China) will have found the whole junket very amusing.  And also striking a chord - the Chinese have no real electoral say in who makes their rules, and now, neither do we.  Nine representatives and their lieutenants in Cornwall setting policy direction, only one of whom I, or any of us, had any theoretical influence (?) in choosing

Was Greta's yacht not available?

There was also the electric coach option - but not without its problems.   From Cornwall Live:

A fully-electric coach has found itself stranded in Cornwall after being unable to charge at five different locations across the Duchy.

The Carbon Battle Bus is on a tour of the UK (United Kingdom) and this week travelled from London to Cornwall but was unable to complete its tour after finding charging points did not work.

It came to Cornwall to tie in with the G7 Summit in Carbis Bay where world leaders have been discussing climate change and the need to reach targets for zero carbon.
12  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: A rail pass for “staycationers” on: Yesterday at 03:16:09 pm
Could be a good product - but I thought there was supposed to be a drive to simplify the fare system - why not simply extend the BritRaail pass to be available to anyone?
Agreed, why add a new similar product particularly given that there is already a fairly similar product in the form of the All Line Rover (other than price, the other difference shown in the image in your earlier post is that the BritRail pass is an 8-in-30 days product wheras the All Line Rover is 7 consecutive days).

Striking that the existing 7 day All Line Rover at £540.00 for standard class is more expensive than the 15 day first class BritRail product!

Are the Britrail pass rights, sales and brand owned by an organisation?  If so it might not be easy, or indeed possible, just to extend it to cover residents of the UK (United Kingdom) as well.

Agreed that an alternative would be to remove the peak restrictions on Rovers and change their prices to be in line with BritRail.  Changing them from 7 and 14 day tickets to 8 in 15 and 15 in 30 would make sense too.
13  Journey by Journey / TransWilts line / Re: 2021 - TransWilts cancellation and amendment log on: Yesterday at 02:59:49 pm
Two cancellations today ... Melksham calls:

14:32   Swindon   On time   -
13:40   Westbury      a shortage of train crew
12:33   Swindon      a shortage of train crew
11:30   Westbury   On time   -

I was at the station to pick up a visitor from the arrival at 11:30 and return him for the 14:32

Quite busy - I counted 14 on the platform just before the 11:30 arrived, and at least 5 people got off.
Exactly the same on the platform - 14 people - prior to the train arriving, and three got off.

Good to see it getting busier again - and these are trains that are not typically the busy ones, with numbers counted at an intermediate station.
14  Sideshoots - associated subjects / News, Help and Assistance / Re: Links to all passenger TOC company sites on: Yesterday at 10:44:25 am
I'm having some difficulty with the size that the page is displaying,when viewed on the IPad,as of today it's not filling the screen with a blank on the right margin.

I will get Lisa to have play on her iPad as a first step, to see if I can reproduce this.  Might involve some more back and forth, testing, explanation, etc - not totally clear that I understand what the difference looks like, though I understand that it has made a significant difference.

OK - problem reproduced and confirmed to be something to do with the new code.   Having reproduced it, I can now fix - taking a look overnight as I have lots on today and don't want to do it while the forum's busy.
15  All across the Great Western territory / Introductions and chat / Re: MOVED: Question for rail professionals. on: Yesterday at 07:03:29 am
A week later, we have had eleven useful replies in our "how stuff works" area - at - thank you to everyone who's posted there. And we promoted "Modern Day Slave" (MDS) to a transport scholar so that (s)he could read and respond there.   Rather sadly, no follow up from MDS and forum logs tell me that (s)he hasn't been logged in, which would be necessary to view what's been written outside the public realm.   It is, of course, possible that 'partner' is a member and transport scholar here and has read the thread and responses.  Flagging it up here in public as it would be nice to know if the inputs were useful to the enquirer, and also to thank (from an admin viewpoint) everyone who's spend their time contributing. Even if the original poster has gone away, the responses form a useful resource for the future on this important topic which we can refer people to, just as certain other of such topics do.
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