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1  Sideshoots - associated subjects / The Lighter Side / Re: Advent quiz - day 5 - timetables on: Yesterday at 11:39:35 pm
7 is, I think, a long way from GW (Great Western) territory - looks suspiciously like the southbound timetable for the Highland Main Line (including mainline arrival times at King's Cross). If it's 1971, the last three lines are presumably Edinburgh, Newcastle and Kings Cross

No, but you ain't far out
2  Sideshoots - associated subjects / The Lighter Side / Re: Advent quiz - day 8 - Where is this on: Yesterday at 08:48:00 pm
As the scrapped coach is a KiwiRail SA (a rebuilt BR (British Rail(ways)) MkII) No.6 appears to be Seaview, Lower Hutt.

Yes - number 6 is indeed New Zealand - and my thanks to [name] for permission to use the picture in the quiz.  I saw it and couldn't resist trying to include it.    Very VERY embarrassing - I'm looking back through my feed and failing to find that name and permission ... will take a further look overnight or others (such as the person) welcome to remind me ((turning into forgetful old man!))

47476NightMail - welcome to the forum, and your first post.  Do you have a Kiwi (or Sims) connection?
3  Sideshoots - associated subjects / The Lighter Side / Re: Advent quiz - day 8 - Where is this on: Yesterday at 03:22:17 pm
2. Is it the new Brent Cross West?  Steelwork seems familiar.


1. Reading Green Park


...  - 5 looks like Sete Rios Station in Lisbon, ...

Yes, it is.

Other guesses - sorry, 6 is NOT Neath, and 7 is NOT a Bristol exhibition
4  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture Overseas / Unscheduled stop on: Yesterday at 02:37:54 pm
From the Mail online

An inter-city train driver in Pakistan has been suspended after he made an unscheduled stop to pick up some yoghurt.

A video of the driver's assistant collecting the snack from a street stall before climbing back into the carriage has been circulating on social media.

The incident on Monday raised questions about the safety and regulation of railways in Pakistan, where accidents are common due to mismanagement and neglect.

"When you stop a train in the middle (of the tracks) it becomes a safety issue. Safety is our priority. We cannot tolerate anything which compromises safety," Syed Ijaz-ul-Hassan Shah, a spokesman for the railway ministry, told AFP on Wednesday.
5  Sideshoots - associated subjects / The Lighter Side / Re: Advent quiz - day 7 Railway Bridges Quiz on: Yesterday at 01:40:32 pm
That concudes yesterdays quiz.

Very enjoyable making the trips all of wich where this year and also running the quiz.

I will be back with a mixed bag quiz next Monday.

Tony, THANK YOU, look forward to seeing you next week
6  Journey by Journey / South Western services / Re: Through service - Bristol to London (Waterloo) via Trowbridge ceases 10.12.2021 on: Yesterday at 01:39:32 pm
Last scheduled through train, Bristol Temple Meads to London (Waterloo)
1O60 - 15:50 Bristol Temple Meads to Salisbury (arr 17:06) attach to
1L60 - 17:20 Salisbury to London (Waterloo), arriving 18:49

Last scheduled through train, London (Waterloo) to Bristol Temple Meads
which is also the last SWR» (South Western Railway - about) arrival into Bristol Temple Meads
1L61 - 19:20 London Waterloo to Exeter St Davids detaching at Salisbury
1V81 - 20:57 Salisbury to Bristol Temple Meads, arriving 22:06

Last SWR departure from Bristol Temple Meads
1O86 - 22:25 Bristol Temple Meads to Salisbury (where it arrives 23:38)

I have thought long and hard whether to travel on any of these trains - and I think "for the record" I will do so - I will post my itinerary is the member's area

I do recall travelling on the 17:50 from Chippenham to(wards) Westbury on 8th December 2006 and finding it to be an utterly depressing experience having to tell people who hadn't already learned that it was withdrawn from the following Monday. I fear the same thing on Friday - and from a report this morning from one of our team: "Warminster woman's just joined it, she had a conversation with train manager - checking whether the 16:20 and 19:20 through trains count as peak. Had no idea they won't be running next week - and the last train with a half decent connection to Warminster is the 17:50 which *is* in the peak."

Another report in my email this morning of someone advised to route via Southampton at a higher fare - "nothing direct to London from Salisbury" - no doubt caused by the connections at Salisbury being so cr*p that the fastest routing is via Southampton!
7  Sideshoots - associated subjects / The Lighter Side / Re: Advent quiz - day 8 - Where is this on: Yesterday at 12:06:03 pm
Could 7 be an exhibition somewhere for the proposed Bristol Mass Transit system?

It isn't ... though it is a good example of trains and buses coming together at the same place.
8  Sideshoots - associated subjects / The Lighter Side / Re: Advent quiz - day 5 - timetables on: Yesterday at 12:04:39 pm
Is 3 the Par to Newquay branch?

A series of dated trains perhaps (columns headed A and B), with a number of other trains from further afield (many travelling long distances overnight)? If it is, it’s likely pre-1980s I would think; perhaps 1978, or 1972 given the dates for the Saturdays. Certainly pre-dates the days of removing the local service to allow the long-distance trains to run (shades of TransWilts…!).

It IS indeed the Newquay branch - and there must have been multiple platforms at Newquay and sidings in use there at the time too.  The days of overnight trains on a Friday night from the likes of Bradford and Wolverhampton, arriving with holiday makers from the Midlands and North and taking last week's holiday makers back home later in the day.   I really wonder how Robert and Dorothy would have entertained Joseph and Mildred from 06:00 until being allowed into their B&B mid afternoon ...
9  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - after Coronavirus to 2045 / Re: Are the railways fit for their (future) purpose? on: Yesterday at 11:58:22 am
I have a question about the Serpell maps posted earlier. Were they proposed services or proposed track? Would some lines have remained open freight-only?

Full report at - looking at the "reference case" network, some lines such as Torrington / Meeth, and to Claydon, to Looe, in Ayrshire, the Waterside line were shown - indicting that it was considering the full network at the point.    Some such as option C2 clearly include freight only lines - Looe and Claydon again (and some wonders like Aylesbury served via Princes Risborough but not via Amersham ... and I have to wonder if that was freight only)
10  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - after Coronavirus to 2045 / Re: Are the railways fit for their (future) purpose? on: Yesterday at 09:11:22 am
it's serious enough at Bradford-on-Avon to displace people back onto the roads, at Beeston to give severe overcrowding even in the time of depressed covid travel numbers, and at Barrow Haven to leave a station and line without a morning commuter hour train.
Not just Barrow Haven, the two 'Fishguard' stations have lost both their morning and evening 'commuter hour' services to COVID. I'm sure they aren't the only other stations to have lost their commuter-time services.

I'm aware of Fishguard (took a look on our National Rail timetable mirror at ) - but my post was examples and to make it a good soundbite, I chose just three places rather than a long list, and all starting with "B" to help it roll off the tongue.  If I could find three "Bs" there are lots more elsewhere in the alphabet.  You have Fs ... and there are more than just the BFs (Brake First (carriage)) around, even if there are (in my view) some BFs making decisions to cut morning services but leave afternoon ones ... similar pattern seen elsewhere are not just in West Wales.   It seems odd to remove all practical get-to-work trains from people but leave the get-them-home services at the end of the day.

The government purpose (as conveyed by by SWR» (South Western Railway - about) last week, confirmed by FOI (Freedom of Information)) seems to be to look at the bottom line of cost and not at the balance sheet. The talk is all of the cost of running the service with no allowance made for the fare box income generated by the extra journeys it generates.  It counts track access charges against the service, where in reality the track maintenance has to continue and Network Rail will need almost all of that money from another source. 

11  Sideshoots - associated subjects / The Lighter Side / Advent quiz - day 8 - Where is this on: Yesterday at 08:08:15 am
Just one each, please, for the first 24 hours







12  Journey by Journey / TransWilts line / Re: 2021 - TransWilts cancellation and amendment log on: Yesterday at 07:59:56 am
06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:08

06:11 Swindon to Southampton Central due 08:08 will be starting late from Swindon.
This is due to a fault on this train.
13  Journey by Journey / South Western services / Re: South Western Railways Waterloo - Bristol services axed on: December 07, 2021, 10:03:14 pm
From myLondon

The tiny Hertfordshire villages set to get direct trains from London for the first time in over 30 years
14  Sideshoots - associated subjects / The Lighter Side / Re: Advent quiz - day 7 Railway Bridges Quiz on: December 07, 2021, 01:22:56 pm
4. Fulham Railway, Putney Bridge (LU)?

Correct but I think Stuving also answered in post #8 above I may have to ask Graham to adjuicate Smiley
Ah, my mistake I just scanned through looking for a “4”…  Cry

Ah ... I think I would have to on balance to give it to paul7575 - on the grounds that I looked at stuving's post and understood it to be challenging my answer rather than answering the next picture, and Paul probably did the same.    It's "only" lighter side, so awards / honourable mention to both gentlemen, me thinks!
15  Journey by Journey / London to the West / Re: Storm Barra on: December 07, 2021, 01:17:35 pm
What about the passengers on the drowned trains ?
Was rescue arranged or they still stuck there.

Remind me why the excellent crews who relaid to Okehampton haven't been carrying on their good work to Meldon and beyond, and started from the other end at Bere Alston too ... been talked about long enough!
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