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1  Journey by Journey / London to the Cotswolds / Re: Worcestershire Parkway Station project - ongoing discussion on: Today at 07:14:40 am
WOP, wouldn't some of our European neighbours take offence at that term?

Not unique - there are those of us draw a deep breath when we talk about Barnstaple by code.
2  Journey by Journey / TransWilts line / Re: Go-Op Cooperative - update on: Yesterday at 07:06:11 am
Missed this video - over a year old; sadly, a year is not a long time in setting up a rail service, so still worth a read.

Building a co-operative train line: Alex Lawrie of Go-op

3  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / The "Campaign Against Rail Travel" on: Yesterday at 06:07:46 am
From The Independent by Simon Calder

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AS THE GHOST TRAINS RUMBLE ON, IT’S TIME TO BRING THE RAILWAYS BACK TO LIFE

The ‘modal shift’ from rail to road has been an outstanding success for its proponents – and a disaster for those of us who believe that rail must be at the heart of travel

[snip]

The Campaign Against Rail Travel (or Cart, as I shall call it) begins even as you contemplate a journey. Before you can begin booking an online journey, Greater Anglia’s website insists that you “read these statements in relation to your planned journey and tick to confirm”.

You must affirm that you have considered “all other means of transport before using public transport,” and assert: “My travel is necessary and I need to use the train”.

Walk-up passengers face equally strident opposition.

“Can you travel another way,” barks a massive billboard at what is normally Europe’s busiest rail station, London Waterloo. It includes a picture of a car, to remind travellers there is a better way to go.

The “modal shift” from rail to road has been an outstanding success for its proponents – and a disaster for those of us who believe that rail must be at the heart of travel as something like normal life resumes.

Months of urging passengers to stay away from trains has created the impression that the rail network is an option of last resort, to be considered only in extremis by the 12 million of us with no access to a car.

Nicky Gardner, co-author of Europe by Rail, says: “This is surely the wrong message.  ... [continues]
4  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Creation of new jobs in Border Force on: Yesterday at 05:41:59 am
In amongst the gloom of so many international travel jobs bing lost from airlines and airports (and many will argue that the greening effect of less flying is welcome), here's an article from  The BBC which hails the creation of 500 new jobs to help the UK seize new opportunities.

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A £705m funding package to boost infrastructure and recruit more staff on Britain's border has been announced as the UK prepares to leave the EU customs union at the end of the year.

Plans include new border control posts and 500 extra Border Force staff.

Cabinet Office Minister Michael Gove said the move would help the UK "seize the opportunities" post-Brexit.

Personally, I would rather those opportunities were not available through us taking a very different path which didn't require / need / justify them.
5  All across the Great Western territory / Broadcast media about railways, and other means of transport / Re: TV shows that weren't quite what I expected [DotD 21.04.20] on: July 11, 2020, 05:46:01 pm
I've just realised, 2 posts above, that I completely missed the point of this thread, and as I got 4 likes so did at least 4 others.  Must remember to read previous posts in a thread more carefully in future, and my apologies to PhilWakely.

The point of the thread was a bit o' fun ... and I think it's been on point.  I have been watching 4 other series which haven't turned out to be quite what I expected.

Location, location, location

A program in which old pictures of railway lines are identified by an expert panel based on the signalling and other equipment shown

First Dates

Melinda Messenger, Ulrika Johnson and Josh Ritchie visit heritage line re-opening days after their Coronavirus closures

Game of Thrones

A series filmed at Wabtec in Doncaster as they struggle to install accessible toilets that don't discharge onto the track in old carriages

Saturday Night Live

Reallity show, what happened on board?  Episode 1, the 20:21 from Weymouth to Bristol. Episode 2 - the 23:15 bus from Bath to Devizes via Melksham. Episode 3 - the 22:15 Fishguard Harbour to Swansea. Episode 4 - the 23:10 Bristol Temple Meads to Frome. Episode 5 - the 19:34 Chathill to Newcastle
6  Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: Getting a grip on GRIP. on: July 11, 2020, 11:56:48 am
...demand can't go below -100%, but it surely can go above +100%

A very good point. I worked out that percentage on my way to deriving the more meaningful figure based on actual numbers, but it would probably have strengthened my argument had I not mentioned it!

If you go for the median rather that the mean, you rise from 6.2% over to 7% over.  23 stations listed, and sorted by growth percentage, that 7% over target is in the middle.
7  Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: DfT sifts 60 new rail plans on: July 11, 2020, 08:37:44 am
Further link from Rail Business Daily

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This funding is split into 3 categories to ensure we can support different projects at different phases of development. The 3 categories are:
* the Ideas Fund, to restore rail services (other than rail station creation or restoration)
* accelerating existing proposals, to increase development of a previously submitted rail proposals
* proposals for new or restored rail stations

The list of bids to the second round of the ‘Ideas Fund’ are:

the North West are:
the South Fylde Line Passing Loop
Kenyon Junction Station
reopening Golborne Railway Station
reinstatement of Bolton-Radcliffe / Bolton-Bury
reinstating Beeston Castle and Tarporley railway station
reopening of Midge Hall Station
re-doubling of the Mid Cheshire Line between Stockport and Altrincham and associated station reopening’s
the Stockport to Ashton Line
the Glazebrook Junction to Skelton Junction
the East Didsbury to Stockport
the North East are:
Consett – Newcastle Connection
Ferryhill Restoration

the East are:
reopening of the Wymondham-Dereham line
King’s Lynn to Hunstanton Railway

Yorkshire and Humber, are:
the reinstatement of the Beverley to York rail line
the restoration of a daily train service on the Keighley and Worth Valley Railway
the Upper Wensleydale Railway
restoring Passenger Rail to the Sheaf Valley
restoring a South Humber Link
the South Yorkshire Joint Railway
a new station at Waverley

the Midlands are:
reopening the Stratford upon Avon to Honeybourne-Worcester/Oxford (SWO) Railway Line
increasing stopping services at Radcliffe-on-Trent and Bottesford stations on the Poacher line between Grantham and Nottingham
increasing services to Nottingham and Leicester, via Syston and Loughborough from Melton Mowbray
reconnecting Ashfield Communities through the Maid Marian Line

South West are:
the Shepton Mallet (Mendip Vale)
the Radstock railway reinstatement
St Anne’s Park station
Primrose Line
transforming the Newquay Line
Mid-Cornwall Metro
the restoring of secondary services on the Great Western Main line
Goodrington and Churston Stations
a new station for Langport and Somerton area
Charfield Station
reinstatement of Bodmin to Wadebridge railway and associated works
increasing service provision Bodmin General – Bodmin Parkway
Ashburton and Buckfastleigh Junction Railway
Bristol West Capacity Enhancement
Light railway extension to the Barnstaple Branch (Chivenor Braunton) “TawLink”
the Cirencester Community Rail Project
Project Wareham – Complete the link
improvement of railway services at Pilning station, as well as reinstating the footbridge to platform 2

the South East are:
The Arundel Chord
the re-opening of Camberwell Station, London SE5
the unlocking of capacity and services through Bramley (Hants)
the Chinnor Railway Aston Rowant extension
the Carshalton Beeches step-free access

Wales are:
the Magor and Undy Walkway Station
restoring services on the Anglesey Central Railway between Gaerwen and Amlych

I searched for "the restoring of secondary services on the Great Western Main line"  and came to http://corshamrailwaystation.org

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Wiltshire Council has made a submission (sponsored by Michelle Donelan MP) to the 2nd tranche of the Department for Transport’s (DfT’s) Restoring Your Railway Ideas Fund. An expression of interest on restoring secondary train services to the Great Western Main Line was submitted on 22 May and the full submission (for appropriate initial study work to be undertaken) was sent on 19 June 2020.

As well as improving connectivity between Bristol to Oxford (and potentially further east) this would help realise new stations at Corsham and Royal Wootton Bassett / Swindon West. It would also potentially help realise new stations at Swindon East, Grove (Oxfordshire), Saltford and St Anne’s Park (West of England).

It is anticipated that the DfT will make an announcement on the submission in 6 – 8 weeks.

We will keep this page updated with any progress.
8  Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: DfT sifts 60 new rail plans on: July 11, 2020, 08:16:16 am
Does anyone know if the list will be/has been made public at some point and/or what other schemes in GW-land are on it?
Thanks.

No immediate list, but question has been asked.

From Business Live

Listing the second batch ... and not sure what the definition of "South West" is.   I suspect it does not include Wiltshire, nor the Southampton area, where I am pretty sure of a couple of applications.

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The 18 South West bids

Ashburton and Buckfastleigh Junction Railway
Bristol West Capacity Enhancement
Charfield Station
Cirencester Community Rail Project
Goodrington and Churston Stations
Improvements at Pilning station and reinstating the footbridge to platform 2
Increased service provision Bodmin General – Bodmin Parkway
Light railway extension to the Barnstaple Branch (Chivenor Braunton) “TawLink”
Mid Cornwall Metro
New Station for Langport and Somerton Area
Primrose Line
Project Wareham – Complete the link
Radstock railway reinstatement
Reinstatement of Bodmin – Wadebridge railway and associated works
Restoring secondary services on the Great Western Main line
Shepton Mallet (Mendip Vale)
St Anne's Park station
Transforming the Newquay Line

List sorted into alphabetic order to avoid any hint of meaningful categorisation.
9  Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: Getting a grip on GRIP. on: July 10, 2020, 02:35:47 pm

Of the 10 stations that didn't achieve their demand forecasts, the worst appears to be Newcraighall at 60% below par. Of the 13 that exceeded them, the best was Ebbw Vale Parkway at 450% over para

... taken as a whole the reopening schemes in the report did 33% better than forecast.  ...

Maybe that's a crude measure....

((5126661/5443769)*100)-100 = 6.2%

One thing it highlight is how difficult even those with appropriate background find it to forecast how a new station will do.  Figures can be wildly out!

Aylesbury Vale Parkway is an interesting one as it opened early in June 2009 rather than planned in 2010.  The report does gives some detail, but as it was being built to provide a station for several large house build projects nearby and it opened before most of those had been built.  The recession led to long delays on some phases of those estates, some of which have only recently been completed and usage has been strongly increasing since 2010.  That perhaps explains that one?

Now that is a very interesting case.  When significant estate of new houses is built, there's often a pull towards getting a bus service in early so that people can use it from first occupancy, and a pull towards getting in late to reduce the early carriage of fresh air.  Best approach (IMHO) is to get the bus / train early so that people use it as they move in and don't buy a second car due to the (early) lack of public transport, which then has to compete for the market it's come to late. On that basis, thank goodness for Aylesbury Vale Parkway opening early. 
10  All across the Great Western territory / Broadcast media about railways, and other means of transport / Re: TV shows that weren't quite what I expected [DotD 21.04.20] on: July 10, 2020, 08:28:49 am

Ghostbusters
The campaigners - the people who've got bums on seats on some of our least used lines and at our least used ststions. Dronfield, Manea, Gainsborough Central, Redditch and Stonehaven.  With a look forward to cases underway - Bromsgrove, Breich and Brigg.

From the Fenland Citizen

It would appear that Manea is victim of Cross Country's decision to cease calling at stations where it has limited passenger numbers.    For Brockenhurst and Winchester, alternative SWR services allow passengers to continue to travel, all be it with a change of trains if they're part of what I suspect is a minority of passengers joining at those stations headed north of Basingstoke. 

Looks like the news wasn't terribly well publicised (or consulted ...) in Manea ...

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Village train travellers are facing major disruption after a rail operator announced it was cutting the service until early September.

The move by CrossCountry Trains was initially flagged up by a concerned Manea resident who reported a drop in the number of trains stopping at the village station.

Posting on the village Facebook page he said trains had failed to stop at their usual times on Wednesday (Cool.

Edit with further research ... it would appear that services are halved at Manea, with Peterborough - Ipswich services running about every 2 hours.  Direct services to Cambridge (which is probably the most popular destination are (?)all gone - so that's going to be a major disruption for passengers toad from that city having to change at Ely and finding that they have to start an hour earlier / be home an hour later in many/most cases.
11  Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: Getting a grip on GRIP. on: July 10, 2020, 06:45:12 am
You can look ahead to all sorts of number

Your forecast
Your target
What is necessary level for it to "work"

and you can do so over all sorts of time periods and measure the numbers in all sorts of different ways

Ticket sales
Passenger numbers (not the same thing?)
Income from the service
Income from ticket sales that use the service as part of the journey
Benefits to the local community
12  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - after Coronavirus to 2045 / Re: Public transport -"essential travel only" replaced with "no staying away"? on: July 09, 2020, 07:57:56 pm
From the Mail Online

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The UK's biggest bus company and rail operator has urged the Government to stop deterring people from using public transport to get them back into shops, pubs, restaurants and offices.

FirstGroup chief executive Matthew Gregory said it is time to 'move away' from appealing to passengers not to use trains and buses for non-essential journeys.

With people required to wear face coverings on public transport, he called on the Government to 'change the message to the fact that public transportation is safe'.

Rishi Sunak's attempts to kick start the UK's cobweb-covered economy could be derailed by inconsistent messaging as the Department for Transport (DfT) continues to insist that people keep away from public transport.

Government guidelines still state those that can work from home should continue to do so, even as cafes and retail stores warn it is strangling their business and lay-off thousands due to the absence of white-collar employees.

Train and bus journeys are languishing at 49 per cent below pre-lockdown levels, data from Apple suggests, while driving is just seven per cent lower.

Raising the possibility of people being encouraged back onto buses and trains, a DfT spokeman today told MailOnline their advice on public transport is under 'continual review'.
13  Sideshoots - associated subjects / The Lighter Side / Re: Four new stations... on: July 09, 2020, 01:35:54 pm
The word Capacity had made me wonder if it didn't actually refer to a station at all but capacity for more frequent services on the Severn Beach line.

Has to make you wonder about 5 coach trains, then.   Oh - wait - haven't active platform lengths been cut back to 3 carriages??
14  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Return of public transport - how is YOUR town doing? on: July 09, 2020, 08:52:34 am
As from next Monday ... for Melksham
* All commercial and supported local bus services will be back to "normal" timetables
* 85% of trains running - the handful that are missing are sensible ones to be missing too
* The daily National Express Coach remains suspended
* Trains are quiet and there is capacity to travel with social distancing and without knocking key workers off
* Buses are quiet and passengers are encouraged to use "any service they wish"
See http://www.mrug.org.uk/timetable.html and http://www/mrug.org.uk/coronavirus.html for our local details - pages which have been a bit of a moveable feast to keep up to date but may be stable after next Monday for a couple of months.

How do we compare to other towns?
15  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - after Coronavirus to 2045 / Re: Public transport -"essential travel only" replaced with "no staying away"? on: July 09, 2020, 06:45:34 am
From The Standard

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Transport bosses have urged the Government to stop encouraging people to avoid trains and buses.

Matthew Gregory, chief executive of transport giant FirstGroup, said it is time to "move away" from telling passengers not to use public transport for non-essential journeys.

Despite coronavirus lockdown restrictions easing in recent weeks, the Department for Transport continues to tell people to "avoid public transport if they can" amid the pandemic.

"Face coverings are now mandatory on public transport and I think with that we can change the message to the fact that public transportation is safe," Mr Gregory told the PA news agency.

"We’ve enhanced the cleaning, we’ve enhanced the disinfectant, we’ve dealt with social distancing properly to try and avoid crowding.

"We’ve made this case to Government to start moving away from that avoiding public transport (message) because we have to get the economy moving again, people want to travel again and move again."
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