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1  Journey by Journey / Wales local journeys / Re: Class 175 fire Pontrilas 15 February 2019 on: Yesterday at 09:51:10 pm
... In this case, I guess the damage will be repaired and the unit put back into service.  But in event of a vehicle being written off, things maybe start to get rather complicated?

I would guess there might be some insurance ... which involves some sort of forethought as to "what if ..."
2  All across the Great Western territory / Diary - what's happening when? / 11th July 2019 - Great Western Rail Forum on: Yesterday at 08:19:47 pm

Flashed up on my news feed.  New one to me
* At Swindon
* During the week
* Starting at 6 p.m.
* 5 speakers (wonder how long each will get)
* No clear idea of cost on front page ...
Needs further research or is anyone "In the know".

This event is not associated with the Great Western Coffee Shop Forum in any way!
3  All across the Great Western territory / Your rights and redress / Who should you have to give up your seat for? on: Yesterday at 07:37:37 pm
From Digital Spy

In what may be the most random news story of the day, The Chase's Vixen - aka Jenny Ryan - has revealed that she was ejected from a train seat by EastEnders' Dean Gaffney.

The quiz star took to Twitter, joking about the "indignity" of being moved from her seat by the Robbie Jackson actor.

"I have just been evicted from my booked train seat in favour of Dean Gaffney. Oh, the indignity," she wrote.

Is this fair?
Who should you have to give up a booked seat for?
Is this real news?
4  Journey by Journey / Wales local journeys / Re: Class 175 fire Pontrilas 15 February 2019 on: Yesterday at 05:40:46 pm

About 80 passengers had to be evacuated from a train after smoke started to billow from it amid reports of a fire.
The fire was reported on the Manchester Piccadilly-Milford Haven service, Transport for Wales said, as it passed through Pontrilas, Herefordshire.

One witness said the train stopped shortly after 11.00 GMT, smoke was seen and passengers were asked to move carriages before getting out.

West Midlands Ambulance Service attended but no-one needed treatment.

Passenger Mike Robinson said: "The train stopped first and then it started to smoke and then the smoke just kind of got worse and worse...

"Then the staff kind of advised us to all move to carriage number one and then the fire brigade came and then the smoke just kind of continued for the next 30 minutes."

5  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: The Consultation is On! on: Yesterday at 04:37:41 pm
Results Monday?

ITN are doing a feature on railway ticketing on the News At Ten on Monday, and they want to talk to a frustrated passenger. Reporter Cxxxx Cxxx writes:

"The Rail Delivery Group is issuing the findings from its consultation on ticketing reforms on Monday. We just want a quick chat with a passenger who feels they have been disadvantaged by ticketing rules ..."

Good Ole press reporter ... hunting around for the exceptionally negative examples ...
6  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Zero excess on: Yesterday at 03:14:14 pm
Many years ago, I was on a full-and-standing Cross Country train. In the buffet car, naturally, as it was more pleasant to stand and drink beer leaning against a counter than to stand beerless in an aisle. Got talking to the guard, who was bemoaning not being able to meet his ticket sales targets, due to not being able to get through the train. So I asked him if a zero excess counted toward his target. Apparently, it did; so I got him to excess my ticket from Birmingham Stns to Bordesley. Maybe it's silly jokes like that that are partly to blame for reluctance these days.

Welcome to the forum, James ... shows the danger of setting up sales target systems!
7  Journey by Journey / Bristol Commuters / Re: Something rather special - near Bristol - 16th Feb 2019 on: Yesterday at 11:09:47 am
Looks as if whatever it was ain't no more.

Can Grahame elaborate.

Not really (apart from my post above) ... some things that should have come together (outside my and Coffee Shop and Melksham Rail User Group spheres) have not done so.
8  Journey by Journey / Bristol Commuters / Re: Something rather special - near Bristol - 16th Feb 2019 on: Yesterday at 11:06:14 am
Only two days to go?

Sadly, I have pulled that from the diary ... (edit top post of thread too).  Elements that were supposed to come together have not done so and so no "half baked" event.   As we hadn't said what or where, no-one's going to have bought and travel tickets. Sorry about the 'pull' ...
9  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: Liskeard to Looe Derailment 15 Feb 19 on: Yesterday at 08:14:01 am
PhilWakely has also posted in a more appropriate sections. May the Mods please move this one across, or remove post.

With thanks

Topics now both in "Cornwall" and merged ... breaking news broke in two places at the same time  Grin Grin
10  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / MOVED: Likeard to Looe Derailment on: Yesterday at 08:11:33 am
This topic has been moved to Plymouth and Cornwall.
11  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - 2019 to 2045 / Re: WECA Alphabet Soup on: February 14, 2019, 04:27:41 pm
Not sure if this is the right place

Have your say on plans for new M5 junction, railway upgrades and Banwell bypass

from the Weston Worle and Somerset Mercury

A public consultation on the West of England Combined Authority’s (WECA) Joint Local Transport Plan (JLTP) has been launched.

The project plans to transform the transport network in North Somerset, with a long-called-for Junction 21A near Weston and a Banwell bypass topping the proposals.

Council bosses hope a revamped travel network will spark economic growth and bolster infrastructure to cope with an increasing population and rising demand on roads and rails.

The JLTP forms part of the wider Joint Spatial Plan (JSP) – WECA’s scheme to tackle the region’s housing shortfall by building more than 100,000 homes before 2036, including 25,000 in North Somerset.
12  Sideshoots - associated subjects / News, Help and Assistance / Re: Papers prepared for the Coffee Shop / Planning and Constitution meeting 9.2.19 on: February 14, 2019, 04:09:30 pm
I have in the past drafted constitutions for a couple of societies, and there is plenty on the web to guide the process. Happy to help.

Thanks, Tony. One of our members is researching a near-equivalent constitution and business model, and we have a couple of other guidances too; also have helped draw up several.   Can we take you up on the "help" offer when there'  draft together ... perhaps even meeting up somewhere near you ... when you're in the UK.
13  All across the Great Western territory / Other ways to travel: cycle routes, cycles, and how the railways deal with them / Facilities for cyclists - looking beyond GWR on: February 14, 2019, 11:18:37 am
Some examples from overseas ... or is this first example what the Scotrail 153 conversions for cycles will look like?
14  Journey by Journey / Bristol Commuters / Re: Rhubarb! on: February 14, 2019, 11:08:13 am
In bygone days, days of which I can remember, most, if not all, services between Cardiff and the South Coast via Salisbury / Southampton used the Rhubarb Curve as Stapleton Road was the Junction for South Wales.

And many of the trains carried on around the east to north loop at Newport via Hereford and Shrewsbury ... that loop was subject of a closure procedure a few years ago of the sort that would be needed if the single Rhubarb Loop train was withdrawn. Other loops in the GW area include Didcot West to North, served by one (XC) train per day, and the service from London to Bristol via the Westbury East to North curve - an experiment - was withdrawn a few days before it could no longer be classed as an experiment to avoid a closure procedure.
15  Journey by Journey / Bristol Commuters / Re: Rhubarb! on: February 14, 2019, 07:41:06 am
Those services that use the Rhubarb curve are a remnant of the services introduced when Filton Abbey Wood was opened together with the MOD which brought many passengers fram Bath who were transferred there from their various scattered locations in that city.

That makes sense. And there were quite a lot of people who boarded at Filton, some in uniform.

There is a significant flow of commuters past Bristol Temple Meads - from the Avon Valley (Keysham, Oldfield Park, Bath, Freshford) and the upper Avon Valley (Avoncliff, Bradford-on-Avon, Trowbridge and beyond) to Filton Abbey, Patchway and Aztec West ... and the remaining Rhubarb train suits the inner sections of those flows, for people who have jobs which they can leave earlier than the traditional 5 p.m. finish.  So much stronger in passenger use than many "parly"s.

How / whether services from Wiltshire through to Filton Abbey Wood / stations beyond to Newport, avoiding Temple Meads, are justified in their own rights is an interesting question - perhaps a case for commuter time trains but additionally having good off peak service at Patchway, Aztec West, Pilning, Severn Tunnel Junction, Magor, Newport and St Mellons  even with a delay / reversal at Temple Meads.  That way, you have a commuter service that is relatively fast, supplemented by a service that takes 15 minutes longer for those who sometimes have to travel away from the peak.
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