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All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Labour to renationalise train operators with no compensation
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on: February 12, 2024, 15:36:19
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Always worth remembering that any proposed form of "renationalisation" will not recreate a fully integrated BR▸ in the previously accepted sense. Labour is really only talking about nationalising the passenger TOC▸ 's (when contracts expire) and perhaps integrating them better with Network Rail to form ?GBR▸ .
Large parts of the overall rail operation are now fully in private hands and unlikely to be brought into public ownership. These include ROSCO» 's + suppliers of new trains with/without maintenance contracts, infrastructure contractors, repair workshops, freight operations, open access passenger operators.
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All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Call for rail fare simplification
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on: December 28, 2023, 15:35:07
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On potential loss of flexibility?
With the LNER» "trial" of single leg tickets, there has been comment that this leads to loss of flexibility. The examples appear to relate to journeys from South to North of England (and v/v). Previously many tickets, notably "Any Permitted" (i/c returns) would be valid on alternative routes, ie in some cases interchangeable between West Coast, Midland and East Coast routes and then alternative options Up North.
An interesting question is whether the LNER trial actually withdrew the pre-existing tickets, or simply promoted the new singles?
The further question is whether this form of simplification is a price worth paying for this lack of flexibility which would only be exercised by a few people?
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Journey by Journey / South Western services / SWR through services to Westbury
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on: November 21, 2023, 15:58:09
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Many will know about the group of through SWR» services from WAT which continue to serve WMN» , WSB» , FRO» and onwards to Yeovil (plus the return journeys). I have read the odd review of the December timetable which seems not to capture the complete story.
Reading RTT» and the SWR pocket timetable the services are from WSB:
Mo-Fr UP 07.42, 11.44, 14.54 and 15.54 Sa UP 08.10, 11.43 Su UP 10.43
From WAT: Mo-Fr DN 07.50, 09.50, 11.20 Sa DN 08.50, 17.50 Su DN nil
The 16.50 WAT is routed via Gillingham and Yeovil and terminates at WSB 20.05. Useful for extended scenic travels in Somerset. There is one other late service to SAL departing WSB at 23.14 Mo-Fr.
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All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Westbury to Gatwick Airport - December 2023
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on: October 12, 2023, 17:22:57
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[I thought I was familar with rail tickets and pricing but I can now see why the public are so confused. Recently I planned a trip to London from FRO» /WSB» . There are probably 4 versions of (normal) routing and pricing. Unless one buys an anytime fare, I was amazed to find that selection of various journey pairs produces a wide variety of price variations, even within the same peak/off-peak slots. The route selections also generally make the journey route specific.]
So to the future, I need tickets WSB to GTW for 12 December out mid-morning and 27 December back mid/late afternoon. There are a plethora of routings available, including via Southampton, which is quite attractive apart from a bus replacement on the return!
Now peak time restrictions are lifted after Christmas which helps the price situation. Since there will be uncertainty about airlines/airports on the return I will avoid any trickery with fixed split tickets or shorter distance advance fares. This leads me to consider outward:
10.47WSB SOP▸ fare £45.80 via RDG‡/GLD, or 11.44WSB OP▸ fare £45.50 via SAL/CLJ
(Both railcard prices. Changes only at RDG or CLJ, in spite of certain journey planner information).
These fares appear route specific so I am wondering if there is any ticket that allows greater flexibility, such as use of the alternative routing above on the return, or travel via Central London. I would rule out the cost of Anytime via London. Suggestions on the use of flexible split tickets might also be useful but there will probably be little benefit there.
Alternatively I would hope that a change of route would be allowed by payment of the excess (as happened in the olden days). The excess being calculated by payment of any higher cost attributable to 50% of the return fare? No doubt it might be a challenge to get such a change duly processed - however, we live in hope.
Colleagues - I would welcome your thoughts and suggestions.
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Sideshoots - associated subjects / Railway History and related topics / Re: Built but never opened ...
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on: October 12, 2023, 12:11:52
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This type of scheme at Yeovil Junction has been proposed since Noah was a young man. The question today is what is the real demand for such an interchange facility. There are (good?) alternative options to Exeter and beyond from Castle Cary. Weymouth to Exeter demand cannot be especially large and an interchange would really only enhance services - Weymouth to Crewkerne, Axminster and Honiton. Axminster already has a reasonable bus connection. Some eastbound journeys towards Salisbury might also be improved.
There are various proposals for a Weymouth to Waterloo service via Yeovil and Salisbury. These are especially promoted by local MPs▸ who claim a faster journey would result compared to that via Southampton. I have not looked at the timings but without some express services (YVJ to SAL/WAT) and an increase in capacity over all the single line sections, it looks like fairy dust.
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Journey by Journey / Heart of Wessex / Re: Weymouth station disapointment
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on: May 31, 2023, 14:05:30
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Weymouth station and immediate area have actually been upgraded in recent months. The front of the station has been remodelled with a new public space and history boards. The car parking has been reorganised and the platform canopies have been repainted and ?reglazed where required. A cafe also operates in the station which last year was a much newer innovation. The former quay branch nearby was made into a linear park (although not to the original glamorous plan!). This mostly involved Dorset Council funding although NR» and SWR» probably contributed. The final change has been erection of a new fence and gate on the car park side to prevent access out of hours. I always found it surprising that open access prevailed until now when trains were parked overnight.
The toilets do seem to be permanently shut now which is disappointing but due to the anti-social behaviour experienced in the past. Although I have not visited the station very late in the evening (recently) I do believe it is staffed until close of play (ie after midnight) but you need to seek out the staff in their little office to the left of the ticket office area when viewed from the platform. A sign indicates "customer help etc."
I have not visited the station for a few weeks so it is possible that some of the above is not accurate but I have been a regular visitor over many years.
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Sideshoots - associated subjects / The West - but NOT trains in the West / Re: Local elections, 4th May 2023
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on: May 05, 2023, 15:58:00
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Frome tends to do things differently (one of our slogans?). Frome Town (parish) Council has a full complement of Independent councillors. This has been the situation for a while now with the national party affiliations/candidates being pushed aside by the electorate. Although the councillors are independent they have an affiliation as "Independents for Frome." In my limited experience, they seem to work together harmoniously and with good support from the council officials. No sign of bullying here.
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