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1  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - 2018 to 2045 / Re: The next decades - aspirations and needs into a joined Wiltshire picture on: Yesterday at 11:56:28 pm
Interesting ideas.

Do you envisage the 4th platform at Westbury being bought back  into use? THat would give the opportunity of cross platform interchanges between the London and Salisbury/Weymouth trains in both directions.

i don't think you'd get third rail from Southampton/ Eastleigh to Salisbury would  need to be 25KV as would Basingstoke to  Reading/Laverstock South Junction (one curve still to be ticked off)/Exeter. This would fit in with the National Freight Spine
2  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Infrastructure problems in Thames Valley causing disruption elsewhere - ongoing, since Oct 2014 on: July 19, 2018, 10:38:32 am


Obviously someone not versed in GWR (1923) terminology.

Main and Reliefs.
3  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Request stops - replacement of arms by buttons on: July 16, 2018, 04:51:12 pm
Sorry to put a damper on it but I've just thought of a snag.

Currently the train slows being prepared to stop so that some one arriving on the platform at the last minute can stick their hand out hopefully in time for it to stop.

Depending on where the driver's indication is trackside or in cab the driver could reach a point where they've received no stop signal so doesn't brake but then someone presses the button at the last minute.

Like pressing the bell of bus 10 yards from the stop.
4  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - 2018 to 2045 / Re: Making our rail corridors more productive on: July 12, 2018, 08:40:24 am
From an idea at The BBC for roads - why not adapt and adopt for rail?

Why not make track panels where the "4 foot" comprises Solar panels ... electrification with self-generation of electricity?

Interesting idea would need all retention tank trains! Not sure how the panels would react to the shadow of a train.

"The second idea in the BBC's report - making use of verge sides as wildlife and pollination corridors is to some extent happening; adding in crop production ... well, I wonder if all those trees being felled and greener being cut back has more that maintenance / nuisance value?"

As for greener road corridors it could be good idea provided the vegetation/trees don't obscure the drivers view particularly at junctions. There are a couple around here which can be difficult until the verge is trimmed.
5  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: National Infrastructure Commission - report issued on: July 12, 2018, 08:32:10 am
Tidal would probably be even better. The tides do seem to be regular and if they are round the coast there would be  continuous
supply  to cover slack water at high and low tide. 
6  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Gove floats scrapping HS2 on: July 06, 2018, 06:22:00 pm

I am not convinced that HS2 will be built and just as a reminder didn't they start building the channel tunnel in 1974 and then stopped in 1975? And yes I know it was built 20 years later but that was a completely different project.

Anyway I believe that Gove is just angling to be the next leader of the Conservative Party as a lot of the party membership are against the project.

Don't forget the 1880 attempt at a channel tunnel.
7  Journey by Journey / London to the Cotswolds / Re: Oxford engineering works July 2018 on: July 04, 2018, 10:30:20 am
You can always try Real Time Trains for your departure station.

If you click on the train number eg 1A25 it will give you the schedule and in the top right block if it has been activated which means the train is running barring unforeseen circumstances.

For instance today 4th 1P25 0954 Great Malvern to London Paddington normally  due Kinghamm 11:01 is cancelled.
8  Journey by Journey / London to Kennet Valley / Re: Avoiding a cancellation report - using part of the path for a stock move. on: July 04, 2018, 10:11:43 am
What do they say about statistics?

Just another example of a poorly specified performance measure which works to the  advantage of the TOC and against the passengers affected by the cancellation.
9  Journey by Journey / Cross Country services / Re: Cross country - Long Distance, or providing full line service? on: July 04, 2018, 10:07:31 am
There is a question or two in the franchise about whether the Cross Country franchise is really the right place for the services that call at these stations, which are distinctly local in nature.    I haven't stirred any pots on this subject on the forum - it's out of area and may only be of marginal interest to members - but then Willington has cropped up, so it may be rather more than marginal.   Interesting to hear views.

My view is that one of the problems with the railways, and in my view the failing of the Beeching report, is that we are still talking about individual stations, and services rather than looking at Network and working out the optimum routes and stopping patterns.

Rail freight was much better at rationalising routes by building spurs to connect different lines. May of which were still had their original pre grouping pattern of traffic. The East to North  Spur at Shirebrook enabled a number of collieries to be single served from the LDEC  via Toton or Worksop to the various power stations.

BR also built several spurs in South Wales which enabled lengths of duplicate lines and  engineering structures, including in one instance, a tunnel and viaduct to be lifted.

There was even a spur in Poplar which enabled most of the London and Blackwell railway to be closed. The viaduct from Limehouse to West India Dock become part of the DLR.

If you look at many services they are still pregrouping eg GWR to Portsmouth
10  All across the Great Western territory / Introductions and chat / Re: Taking the train - even if the rail replacement bus is quicker on: July 03, 2018, 06:07:54 pm
No 7 back to my old gripe you won't see much for all the trees and it seems now sold panel fencing.

Although in general I agree with you that I'd rather be on a train than a bus/coach especially with luggage.

I must admit I did Padd Swindon via Bicester Oxford for no other reason than to to get the new junction at Bicester the revamped   line to Oxford and the curve to Foxhall at Ddidcot.

11  Journey by Journey / Cross Country services / Re: Cross country - Long Distance, or providing full line service? on: July 03, 2018, 06:03:06 pm
My daily commute uses a (an?) XC class 170 for the 7 miles between Willington & Derby.
Willington has a basic 2-hourly service, doubling to hourly(!) in the peaks.
I realise that a 170 stopping all stations between Derby and Birmingham has a huge impact on capacity for pathing Voyagers on that 2-track section.  But I wish the gap between the 1517 and 1717 Willington arrivals could be filled.
Branston 4-track, anyone?


I think rower's commute makes my point about XC being all things to all men. Surely Willington should  be served by an hourly Birmingham Derby/ Nottingham RB service provided by whoever happens to be running the Birmingham suburban service at the time.

XC should not stop at Burton but maybe occasionally Tamworth for WCML connections.

It is sometimes quicker to do Euston Tamworth for Burton rather than changing at Derby.
12  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture Overseas / Re: Competing Channel tunnel trains? on: July 02, 2018, 10:38:51 am
Perhaps cynic that I am, should we be wondering if the Channel Tunnel will survive Brsxit?

13  Sideshoots - associated subjects / The Lighter Side / Re: Two dozen days, 24 locations to identify on: July 02, 2018, 10:30:34 am
It's called the Market Economy everything must compete to give the customer maximum choice. However, having competing forms of transport doesn't work and actually restricts customer choice operators choose the optimum time for their services without considering the possibility of connections with other modes.

Probably a sweeping observation on market led transport in most of the country. However, I can't help comparing it with  TFL which has total control over most of London's public transport, apart from mainline rail, from fares timetables routes etc. Although they are even getting in on what was  considered mainline to Reading with Crossrail, and  have a big say in Thameslink

Are they looking to recreate NSE?

There is a Radio 4 broadcast on this topic tonight Monday 2nd at 20:00 will try and record.

14  Journey by Journey / Cross Country services / Re: Cross country - Long Distance, or providing full line service? on: July 02, 2018, 09:43:36 am
The problem is that XC is all things to all men. It tries to provide long distance IC trains e.g. Aberdeen Penzance. RE (Reginal Express services  like Birmingham Bristol and even straying into RB Region Bus (stoppers) in some places.

One solution would be 3tph on it's routes one IC, one RE with Regional Bus services provided by the local franchise. The RB to also provide connecting services to places not served by XC. Say Stratford on Avon from Birmingham New street and or Leamington Spa.

The RE could be overtaken at suitable places to provide connections into the IC and speed up the ICs times. The problem is it would need more infra structure to provide such connections preferable cross platform.

15  All across the Great Western territory / Introductions and chat / Re: Defensive scheduling on: June 28, 2018, 01:03:59 pm
I think the whole reason for defensive scheduling is the unreliability  of the current of the services.  It is difficult to anticipate what problems you will face be it infrastructure failures train failures, staff shortages etc. etc.

When a rail journey works there's nothing better when it fails there's nothing worse.
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