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4321  Journey by Journey / London to the Cotswolds / Re: A petition has been created.... on: February 07, 2008, 16:48:49
William,

While I have signed your petition, I do have reservations about your reference to "village stations", which might cover just about everywhere on the line apart from Evesham and Pershore. The reason the trains make as many calls as they do is because people want to use them.

In the 1970s, Pershore and Hanborough (PS Lee, the second platform survives here too) were down to a single daily train each way, now passenger journeys are in the 60,000-70,000 per year range at both. Honeybourne is somewhere near 30,000, despite having been closed from 1969-1981. If it had a decent train service, Shipton (and the Wychwoods generally) could well match that figure. Charlbury (232,000) generates almost as much traffic as Evesham (239,000), despite a far smaller population. Figures given are all for 2006.

If and when more double track is laid, the need to meet this demand will not change. Indeed a much enhanced service at Shipton would be justified and possible if the current timetabling constraints are removed.

By all means deal with slack scheduling on the Cotswold Line itself and the padding built into timings between Reading and London, but the days of the Cathedrals Express sweeping imperiously past everywhere except Moreton and Evesham are long gone. We may be a long way from London, but this route and much of the FGW (First Great Western) network as far out as Bath and Bristol is now outer-suburban, not InterCity, which means current stopping patterns are here to stay.

I agree that one of the problems is that the Cotswold line as with most of the GW (Great Western) mainline out of Paddington is now outer suburban so most trains will need to stop at most stations with double track you could have say an hourly semi fast (fast to Oxford) to and from Paddington and an hourly all stations that follows the fast from Oxford (connection from Padd) and arrives Oxford to connect with an Oxford to Paddington fast service (on the other half hour to the through fast).

However this will require  very expensive diesel units to give the necessary acceleration to provide attractive journey times. So given the increasing outer suburban nature of the Cotswold line electrification should be the long term goal. 
4322  Journey by Journey / Wales local journeys / Re: Ebbw Vale train service resumes 46 years on on: February 06, 2008, 15:38:04

I would love to take a trip up there sometime.
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I've been up there on a railtour and teh scenary after Aberbeeg is superb.

Do you realise that the lower end of this line from Basseleg to Park junction (Cardiff, Newport Docks and Neport Station) was six tracks. It was called the Park Mile and made the landowner the very rich. In selling the land he got the railway comapny to pay him 1d for every ton of coal that passed over the line. Even at 240d to the ^ he made a lot of money! The GWR (Great Western Railway) finally had to buy him off I don't know for how much.

It's also a pity that Crumlin Viaduct on the Pontypool Neath line (another very scenic line) has gone. Ther use to be a High and Low Level staion here literally. The High level being a 200' above the low level. 

It will be intersting if they get the line to Abertillery  as unlike to Ebbw Vale the track has been lifted from Aberbeeg. Who knows they may even get back to Brymawr.
4323  Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Re: Tonights 8.30pm Paddington to Maidenhead and platform 13 (again!) on: February 06, 2008, 14:54:22
This is a very intersting topic and shows just how complex running a railway actually is.

Given that until Paddington is rebuilt (sometime/ never?) 13/14 are for historic reasons out on a limb. You use to be able to get through trains from Windsor through to Moorgate.

Unfortunately, they are operationally very convienient platforms in which to run stoppers to and from  the Relief  Lines

One of the reasons they are so convinient is that they connect direct to Lines 5
& 6 so trains can slip in and out with least disruption to other platforms.

E.g a train can arrive from line 6 (off Up Relief at Ladbroke Grove) and into  13/14 when a train is leaving 12 downwards to line 5 or 4 (joining Down Relief at Ladboke Grove).

Whereas a train from line 6 to 10  blocks 11 to 14 for outgoing trains.

So it's operationally convenient to use these platforms even when others might appear free. There is also a drivers' mess room on the platform. Which means drivers can arrive at 13/14 take their PN break and then take a another train off 13/14. This minimises walking time which otherwise have to added into the duty, thus increasing driver productivity. I would suggest that may be why they used at around 20:30 because the late shift drivers who booked on in the afternoon would be coming up for their PN breaks around that time.

Given, therefore, they will be used there is still the issue of late display of the platform on the concourse. Now that should really only be a problem when a train is not going to use it's booked platforms and the departure board operator doesn't know what platform it is going to arrive at until the IECC (Integrated Electronic Control Centre) informs them. O course in the old days of teh integrated railway teh stion staff would tell the signalman what platform they wanted the train, but now hey work for differnt comapnies. However, if things are running well then  there should be no reason why trains using 13/14 can't be displayed either immediately  after the previous train has left or say at least 15 minutes before departure.

Trains for 12/9 could be displayed at least 10 minutes before departure.

There is also a third problem and that is the poor reliability of the general infrastructure and trains means there is a need to change platforms, from that timetabled, at the last minute more frequently than one would like.

However, we could move more towards the continental method, particularly used in Germany where particular services will leave from the same platform throughout the day. Those of you that travel by express trains on the continent know you can find the posistion of  the coach with your reserved seat from the train formation display on the platform. There is some use of this method at Paddington with Heathrow Exprees using 6 and 7 (although other platforms are electrified for emergency use) and Heathrow Connect often 12. Some Reading stoppers seem to use 11 some part of the day.  However, it's not consistent.

To do this requires a degree of thought in planning the timetable/platform, stock diagrams etc and the day to day operational discipline of running rains on time which is probably beyond any current TOC (Train Operating Company) and Networkrail signalmen.

Of course I loved coming in and out of 13/14 when I worked at the Royal London because I used the Hammersmith line off 15/16. Now with only leisure use it can be annoying if I want the Bakerloo, Inner Rail Circle or bus for onward journey or arrive from those. But as it's leisure travel I usually try and arrive at Paddington in time to have a pint in the Bear.

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