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1  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Smoking and wee-ing at gated interchanges on: Yesterday at 03:24:57 pm
Pretty much always have problems at Cardiff Central and Bristol Temple Meads when popping to the shops that are located outside the gateline at both stations. Only with the barriers though. Staff have always been helpful though - never had an issue after explaining to someone.
2  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues on: October 11, 2018, 01:52:34 pm
Are there still issues with the electronic reservation system that the 800's? Was on one from Swansea to Paddington over the weekend (that was delayed by almost 2 hours thanks to a broken down freight train, but that is a different issue!) and the reservations weren't on. No comments from the TM about it, and the service was quiet enough that it didn't matter. Just curious.
3  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Is claiming compensation worth the effort? on: October 02, 2018, 05:24:35 pm
Can't say I disagree. Especially with GWR's abysmal compensation terms if you are even eligible and the fact you have to go through the effort of filling out a paper form and posting it or composing an email in many cases (as the web form they offer doesn't give an "additional details" box that would be useful for journeys that aren't just a simple GWR station to GWR station witho no changes!).
4  All across the Great Western territory / Introductions and chat / Does rail travel actually matter (stupid question day) on: September 28, 2018, 02:40:33 pm
Somewhat spurred on by grahame's postings, I'm making a couple, one now and probably one or two later.
Does rail travel actually matter in the grand scheme of things?

Obviously those of us here are either rail enthusiasts, or depend on the railways for travel, or both.
But for the majority of the public, does it really matter? Certainly most people I know are happy to drive most places and get taxis or walk when drinking etc. London is the main exception, but even then certainly at least some of my London based friends rely on their cars more than the railways.

Certainly I think those of us who do rely on rail tend to easily forget that most people don't, and you could rip up the railways and you wouldn't hear any argument from a large percentage of the British population. Obviously I don't want that to happen, but I think it is helpful if we put it all in prospective a bit sometimes!
5  Journey by Journey / Bristol Commuters / Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks on: September 27, 2018, 11:30:56 am
Considering how bad city centre traffic has been over the last week or so (thanks to roadworks, road closures and a protest yesterday!), I am not surprised GWR opted to not do BRI to BPW shuttles! Does make me wonder how it will cope come the end of October though! My girlfriend tried to get the bus from the bus station to Bath yesterday, it took 50 minutes for the bus to get from the bus station to Thekla!!
6  Journey by Journey / Bristol Commuters / Re: Another Bristol Parkway Closure - for three weeks on: September 20, 2018, 04:05:53 pm
I was already planning on changing to the local buses when the Severn Beach line gets replacement buses when travelling to and from my girlfriends. simonw, your assessment of the current situation when the current blockade is less disruptive than what the Filton Bank blockade will be is a further push for me to go in that direction!
7  Journey by Journey / Bristol Commuters / Re: MetroBus on: September 18, 2018, 12:22:50 pm
So Bristol Sport have announced plans to add a 4000 capacity sports and convention centre amongst other things in a new development next door to Ashton Gate. The interesting bit is that as part of it, they are proposing "an integrated transport hub to connect the Metrobus; the railway line; cycle routes and crossing sections over the Winterstoke Road". You mean the Metrobus that doesn't actually serve Winterstoke Road and that people have been told not to use to get to Ashton Gate despite the stop being named Ashton gate and it only being a 10 minute at most walk away from the stadium?

8  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Person trapped and dragged, Notting Hill Gate station - 31 Jan 2018 on: September 18, 2018, 10:23:28 am
Regardless of the ever so slightly OTT comment, it is a valid concern. If we are going to rely on drivers to self dispatch, and this practice is going to be expanded across more of the heavy rail mainline network (as seems to be the case), then surely systems and processes need to be in place to ensure this doesn't happen? Isn't the driver supposed to be monitoring the doors on departure from stations in a DOO situation (which is essentially what the Tube is).
9  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Intercity Express Train (IET) failure, near Exeter, 13 September 2018 on: September 14, 2018, 04:36:37 pm
No point sending a fitter from Exeter. They won’t know anything about the train.

Hitachi have numerous fitters in the region, including travelling fitters, the nearest available fitter would have been sent.

I wasn't really just talking about Exeter. It was more a question of: has the change to Hiatchi staff looking after / fixing the trains (as opposed to GWR staff which is the case for the HST's) meant that staff who can fix issues will now take longer to get to incidents compared to similar GWR staff for HST's? 90 minutes away seems to be quite a distance away (especially when that is 90 minutes AFTER initial fault finding, so what, closer to 2 hours at least before someone even arrives on site, let alone does anything useful).
10  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Intercity Express Train (IET) failure, near Exeter, 13 September 2018 on: September 14, 2018, 03:32:44 pm
I started a thread about this incident on an IET Facebook group. There was a reply there from the Network Rail Incident Controller.
I managed this incident from start to finish on a NR perspective. Firstly the fitter was 90 minutes away after early diagnostics proved unable to fix. Single Line Working was ready to be implemented at 1825, just over an hour after after the train stopping. Upon the fitter being unable to fix it was deemed evacuation was the only solution left. The plan was to use the Fire Brigade. Their response was 60 minutes and the XC Voyager to stop behind the failure and passengers detained via the Up Main cess to enable single line working to keep going. Underfoot ballast conditions prevented this so the Down Main had to be closed too. Evacuation although taking as long as it takes was the highest priority for the 389 passengers on board.

Does anyone know if the fitter being 90 minutes away was due to the whole ludicrous staff situation (where it is Hitatchi's staff who have to look after the trains, not GWR's)?
If it was a HST instead would a fitter been able to get there sooner (e.g. from Exeter)?
11  All across the Great Western territory / Your rights and redress / Re: Who to claim from? on: September 14, 2018, 11:04:17 am
Definitely to the TOC whose trains were delayed, never to the TOC that sold the tickets (unless one & the same, obvs)

Unless you are getting a refund because you didn't travel, in which case it is to the retailer! So simple isn't it!
12  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: The most incompetent Customer Service response ever? on: September 13, 2018, 02:01:30 pm
Surely the main problem here is with the BoJ not being properly considered when planning the software for the ticket gate?  If the barrier had understood the rules, the passenger would not have had to go through this palaver.

How would you do that? I guess for some journeys it is easy. But many journeys can be done multiple ways, and depending on which route you take, that will change if your are having a BoJ or if you have actually overrode and should be charged extra.

The real problem is the staff. Gateline rules are great for the simple stuff, and then staff should be able to fill in the rest. If the staff aren't trained, or do not accept the rules, then that is the real failing.
13  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Cable / copper / metal theft - ongoing problems on the railways and elsewhere on: September 11, 2018, 10:44:07 am
Was first discovered yesterday morning but not identified as attempted cable theft until later in the day.

Has affected Greenland Mill level crossing near Bradford-on-Avon station.

Explains why it was being announced as problem with a crossing throughout the day then!
14  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway since September 2017 - ongoing discussion on: September 10, 2018, 02:24:31 pm
15:42 Plymouth to London Paddington due 19:29
15:45 Paignton to London Paddington due 19:50

That had the fun of funneling three lots of train passengers onto one train when the 16.12 Plymouth to Paddington rolled into Exeter St Davids at 17.17!

Thankfully I was in First class (thanks to some really good advance tickets!) so didn't have to deal with any of it, but based on how full the platform at Exeter was when boarding, it didn't look great!

Not sure I'd have like to seen what would have happened if it had been a 5 car 800 either!
15  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Brizzle Arenal....where to mi babber ? on: September 06, 2018, 12:43:42 pm
I hope that any plans for Filton include

  • local rail access
  • monorail for Mall@Criibs car parks
  • central bus station for local and national buses to ensure people can get home

Or how about you put a station on the Henbury loop that just so conveniently passes right by the proposed arena site there!
Of course that would require joined up thinking and actually public transport planning. By a council who have spend millions on replacing three bus routes, with well, three bus routes.
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