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61  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - after Coronavirus to 2045 / Re: Potential new services GWR could start? on: August 31, 2018, 15:19:26
One new service I would like to see, using existing lines, is to run direct services from Bath to Swindon and along the line to Cheltenham Spa. At present this isn't a permitted route, so needs two tickets to be bought and usually quite a long wait at Swindon, and it would avoid Temple Meads and all the chaos and overcrowding that happens there. It could also tie into a new station at Corsham. Alternatively it could just be made into a permitted route, and perhaps run some Trans Wilts services from Westbury via Swindon to Cheltenham Spa to provide extra capacity and better connecting times.

Not sure why that would happen when there are already direct Bath to Cheltenham Spa services tbh.
Yes these are overcrowded, but surely the answer there is to solve the overcrowding on those services?
62  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - after Coronavirus to 2045 / Re: Potential new services GWR could start? on: August 31, 2018, 10:16:02
I have to agree with bignosemac's comments. GWR (Great Western Railway) can't even deal with their current services at the moment. Surely they should sort that out first?
Then maybe start looking at improvements to current services (higher frequencies, new stations on existing services) etc.
63  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Part of comic's scooter missing after Stansted flight on: August 30, 2018, 15:40:39
Blimey this woman gets some real bad luck using public transport - I am surprised she even bothers

Bad luck? Or a true reflection of how poor the provision is for such things when travelling?

Whilst no where near the same, I travel by rail a fair bit (I commute by train for work, I travel to football games most weekends partly or fully by train, I travel to see my girlfriend sometimes by train), and I seem to always be caught in delays / disruption. My friends and family have said how much bad luck I seem to get, but in reality it is simply what the rail network in this country (at least in GWR (Great Western Railway) land) is actually like. No luck (good or bad) in it at all.
64  Journey by Journey / Heart of Wessex / Re: Should Heart Of Wessex Transfer To South Western Franchise? on: August 29, 2018, 12:20:32
The biggest issue with this is the splitting of the Bristol - Bath services between two ToC's.
At the moment with them being run by the same ToC, if disruption hits specific services then the other services often pick up the slack (e.g. if the stoppers have issues, the Cardiff - Pompey or sometimes even the high speed services stop off at Keynsham and Oldfield Park). I somehow doubt that would happen as often if it was another ToC!
65  Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: Economics of operation of shorter trains on: August 21, 2018, 15:30:24
At Temple Meads the train was supposed to be on platform 11 but was sat somewhere in the nether region between 11 and 12, so that some of those who came up the stairs presumed their train hadn't yet come in because it looked as if the only train was on platform 12 (I could only just read the destination on the train by walking down towards it). I'm sure there were some who missed the chance of trying to get on because of that, I certainly saw many people running down the platform at the last minute. One bit of me wonders whether this might have been deliberate, given that it was obvious not everyone who wanted to get on would be able to.

The stopping locations have changed since the works around Easter time, whilst I can't remember exactly where it now is, I do remember the stopping location for platform 11 having changed a fair bit so that it is now basically around where the Pumpkin cafe is. (edit, I see RA has replied in the time I was typing this saying the same!).

I should add that Graham talks about the crowding from Temple Meads to Keynsham, but the crowding lasts far longer than that. Certainly always to Oldfield Park, but on the few journeys at rush hour I've taken eastwards from there, the trains have always been packed at the least, and on occasions severely overcrowded, right down to Bradford on Avon and Trowbridge. Economically, having extra carriages on these services at least as far as Westbury must make sense.

You also have the problem of people jumping on these trains to get to Bath, when in an ideal world they'd be getting the Cardiff - Portsmouth services (well maybe not yet, but when they start to run as 5 car turbos), or even better the London bound high speed services.
66  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: GWR mobile tickets on: August 17, 2018, 21:38:42
...  and specifically bar break of journey ...

That is no longer the case for most tickets. The National Rail Conditions of Travel allow break of journey on all except certain special ticket types, and GWR (Great Western Railway) cannot break the national conditions of travel just to suit themselves.   That has now been clarified and accepted by GWR (( contrary to earlier comment in this thread;  condition can be applied to NEW fares and ticket types not the old standard ones )) - though I'm not sure how far the clarification has been implemented into systems.

A word of caution - the RDG(resolve) "easier fares" consultation could come up with recommendations that change the National Rail Conditions of Travel, and if that happens a number of useful and very fair things you can do could be swept away in the interest of "simplification", co-incidentally making some journeys more expensive or less convenient in the process.


In which case GWR may want to update their app because it is still saying that break of journey is not allowed for mobile tickets (that is of today, as I used a mobile ticket this morning and specifically checked for the wording). Is there anywhere where GWR have publicly confirmed this wording is incorrect?
67  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: GWR mobile tickets on: August 13, 2018, 12:11:11
I saw somebody using one of these get on at Keynsham the other day. So GWR (Great Western Railway) but not gated. She just showed her phone screen to the guard when he came round. Of course her destination could have been a gated station – does it work if only one end is gated?

If it wasn't the "she" there I'd have asked if it was me you saw!
But yes, at the moment they are only offered if the start or end of the journey is gated, and specifically bar break of journey (presumably so you can't just get off at a station that isn't gated).
Out of curiosity did the guard scan the QR (QR Code - Quick Response code) code on her screen or just look at it? I've had a bit of a mix regarding this. I suspect they are meant to scan the code, but its a bit faffy with them having to get the camera app up on their device etc.
68  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: Chippenham to London - coaches on: August 03, 2018, 10:45:37
This also affects Bath (as Bath is where the coaches through Chippenham used to go to and from). This happened a couple of years ago too when Megabus started running the services then dumped them after about a year. The services were reintroduced last year and until reading this post I wasn't aware they had stopped again. I suspect they see initial high usage (with the service being "new" and getting media publicity etc) and then it probably drops off pretty quickly (thanks to competition from National Express and the railway) to a point where they give up again.
69  Journey by Journey / London to Swindon and Bristol / Re: IEP between Bristol and WSM on: July 31, 2018, 15:58:17
Curve too sharp at Bristol to split or join trains

Is that really the case?
Wasn't splitting at Temple Meads part of the original plan?
Did nobody check that was actually possible?
70  All across the Great Western territory / Looking forward - after Coronavirus to 2045 / Re: Long term consequences of present/recent railway problems. on: July 30, 2018, 15:45:41
The major disruption at York and Leeds was caused by a direct lightning strike on the IECC (Integrated Electronic Control Centre) (Integrated Electronic Control Centre) at York.  Not too much you can do to protect against a major strike like that.  Internally it 'fried' two of the Leeds workstations and externally destroyed up to 20 trackside signalling modules.  Moving trains at York meant having to manually operate and Clip and Padlock (C&P) 30 sets of points, which is a significant task.

I guess the question is, has the move the IECC's and RoC's meant that disruption is spread around a larger area?
Is it acceptable that say a lightening strike on Didcot (to bring it more towards GWR (Great Western Railway)'s area) would mess up the Severn Beach line?
I accept there are reasons why larger signalling centres work and make sense, but I also think the public have the right to then complain when railway industry controlled decisions (aka the move to larger centres that control larger areas) end up making non railway caused disruption worse.

In the example you mention at York, would the disruption at York caused disruption at Leeds like that if systems and signalers were more spread out?
71  Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: The s-l-o-w train?? on: July 27, 2018, 17:33:22
2.5 hours Taunton to Cardiff.

The "fast" Bristol to Cardiff services (aka the ex Portsmouth services) are timetabled for 48 minutes at their fastest (tho still can do it faster due to padding in the timetable).
The slower services to Cardiff are generally given just over an hour (though some are just under).
The "fast" services between Taunton and Bristol are given 30 minutes (some are 31, but its close enough!).
The slower services are given just over an hour too.

All isn't as it seems though due to the connection at Bristol, so most journeys with the connection are given as somewhere between 1 hour 50 mins and 2 hours 8 minutes.
Given that that particular direct train seems like the slowest, and others are timetabled for between 2 hours 6 minutes and 2 hours 20 mins, depending on when you travel, taking the "slower" train may work out quicker!

Of course all that only applies if you are travelling west of Bristol towards South Wales and in that case you have the additional benefit of it being a through service, especially right now when changing to a new GWR (Great Western Railway) service at Bristol seems like it can be a bit like rolling a dice when it comes to will it be on time or even be running at all. If you are just travelling to Bristol then the XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) services are a no brainer at about half the journey time (unless you have literally just missed a fast one).
72  Journey by Journey / South Western services / Re: South Western Railway franchise could be under threat on: July 26, 2018, 13:15:23
Which may be summarised as "largely due to network rail, but not entirely"

Even for network rail, upgrading the power supply along an existing route should not be that hard. There is an existing 33KV distribution network along the railway, this feeds numerous transformer/rectifier stations.

Additional transformers and rectifiers are mature technology and available from several suppliers.
If the existing 33KV network is inadequate, then replacing the cables with larger ones is a simple task. HV cable is used in vast quantities by the electricity supply industry and is readily available.

Isn't it more like largely due to the DfT» (Department for Transport - about)?
The DfT specified the level of service they expected from the bids without checking with Network Rail if it was possible. The DfT won't give Network Rail funding for the work that would need to be done to make that level of service possible.
73  Journey by Journey / Bristol (WECA) Commuters / Re: Bristol Doors Open Days, explore unseen Temple Meads on: July 25, 2018, 11:24:29
I actually managed to get onto the page in time to get tickets, but then realised that I wasn't actually available for any of the times Sad.
74  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Safe use of stations on: July 24, 2018, 15:45:15
Having pulled NR» (Network Rail - home page) up from that silliness, a 153 at 30 m.p.h. would leave the child in pieces.

Indeed. There was an incident a few years ago at the station near my old secondary school where a child died after being hit in the head by a train that was stopping at the station. Just shows the speed doesn't have to be high for an incident to be fatal.
75  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: Wessex to close operations in Bristol on: July 24, 2018, 15:40:11
Some lovely modern bus shelters, with live running information, on routes served only by Wessex will now stand useless. A testament to the stupidity of the local authority.

Sounds like most of the route will be taken up by either the new route of the U2 or First's new 20 service, so thankfully there shouldn't be many new shelters left unused.
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