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1  Sideshoots - associated subjects / The Lighter Side / Re: Where were Finn and bignosemac, Autumn 2021? on: October 10, 2021, 02:51:44 pm
I think it’s the corner between the bridge and the ramp to the platforms B/C island.

There’s a number of different constructions, the ramps down to the platforms are timber roofed, the tubular sections across Waterloo Rd are relatively modern, but the bridge that crosses the three platforms is an older floor and walls with a more modern roof.  As Stuving notes it isn’t a 90° turn but I think the camera exaggerates the view.

Aerial view from Google:
2  Journey by Journey / South Western services / Re: SWR Services to Reading on: October 08, 2021, 07:11:16 pm
You mean ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) from Reading to Salisbury via Southampton? If so, why?!!
I think it’s theoretically for route knowledge training for diversions, there aren’t any normal public DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) services on the stretch from Basingstoke to Eastleigh, since the last few peak extras were converted to 450 operation a couple of years ago.

3  Journey by Journey / South Western services / Re: SWR Services to Reading on: October 08, 2021, 03:47:14 pm
Rather than operate in service after that latish evening service into Reading, amazingly it returns ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) all the way to Salisbury!
In the normal working timetable it also runs via Southampton, and takes far longer than the obvious route. That might be why they don’t run it in service.

4  Sideshoots - associated subjects / Railway History and related topics / Re: Horse drawn stagecoach to Minehead. on: October 07, 2021, 09:38:39 am
If stage coaches still operated, after Brexit effects would there currently be major problems with hay supplies, and a shortage of qualified drivers trained for multiple working - of horses?  Huh

5  All across the Great Western territory / Your rights and redress / Re: Delayed Railcard on: October 04, 2021, 07:26:04 pm
Many thanks to those who have replied to my query.  I did phone Passenger Assist at Great Western Railway and Cross Country, the belt and braces approach, to ask about excessing.  Both told me to do it on the train via the train manager, should the Disabled Railcard not turn up. 
That really is unhelpful.  There is not supposed to be a way of excessing a fare to remove a railcard discount, the conditions of carriage are quite clear that if no railcard is carried then a new ticket is to be sold, and a refund given afterwards (limited to only once per year) if entitlement can be proved retrospectively.

As is often the case TOC (Train Operating Company) helplines, Twitter reps etc etc are often worse than useless about detailed fares rules.

6  Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Re: The end of an era - or at least a gas holder on: October 04, 2021, 09:57:46 am
Someone posted about the apparent dangers of gas holders to modern thinking, I was wondering if records show how many were bombed intentionally or accidentally during WW2, and what the resulting damage was?

Secondly, recent news about a general lack of storage has sometimes been illustrated with images of traditional gas holders, but were they really ever providing medium term storage, or did they simply act as accumulators to deal with demand fluctuation over the normal 24 hour peaks and troughs?
7  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Storing petrol on: October 03, 2021, 11:01:27 pm
And fuel tankers have to display signs warning of the flammability of the contents, but I suppose you can not expect the average motorist to understand that.

Doesn't everyone know their 3YE-1203 from their 1T-1910?
The Highway Code does explain the existence, (but not the detailed meaning), of Hazchem signage - and I think the average motorist is supposed to have read it…

8  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Railway bridges struck by road vehicles - merged topic, ongoing discussion on: September 30, 2021, 03:45:24 pm
Apparently, all was not exactly what it seemed.....

…and a week on from that non-story the tabloids have all just repeated it, quoting the Sun’s version…  Roll Eyes
9  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: "‘the worst train service in the UK" on: September 30, 2021, 03:18:41 pm
Durhamshire  Huh or County Durham?
10  Journey by Journey / Heart of Wessex / Re: Network Rail service? on: September 30, 2021, 02:25:11 pm
I think for future reference the Wessex rail head treatment trains in this area, Hants/Dorset etc, mainly run from Totton Yard nowadays, they are typically Q paths valid for the whole timetable period - so the same paths can be used for other purposes such as de-icing, weed killing or track inspections.

Here’s a Totton to Totton service from the 29th that might be what was noted by PhilWakely yesterday:


11  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Southeastern accused of acting "in bad faith" by DfT on: September 29, 2021, 05:40:32 pm
There are some interesting posts on the RailUK forums.
1 - This was referred to in the last set of Go-Ahead's accounts but with a probable cost of £8M, so it is not new
2 - The current contract expired on 17 October and the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) had the option of renewing it.  They have not taken this option.

So if the political speak is stripped away there was a known problem under investigation that has turned out to be larger than expected and the DfT have not extended a contract past its due date.  As usual the media have concentrated on the political statement and have not investigated the full facts.
…and sheer coincidence they discovered it during the Labour conference, rather than next week?
12  Journey by Journey / London to Kennet Valley / Re: Hired in 387s on: September 29, 2021, 05:22:06 pm
The root cause is the IET (Intercity Express Train) structure cracking issues, which Grahame didn’t mention.

I believe there are issues running the c2c versions in multiple with the other 387 variants operated by GW (Great Western) and Gatwick Excess, so they tend to be used singly on the Reading to Newbury route.

13  All across the Great Western territory / Introductions and chat / Re: How many of these 50 things have you done? on: September 28, 2021, 12:52:59 pm
Dined in a Restaurant Car
- a few times, prior to 1984, Newcastle to Kings Cross, back then allowed in the restaurant on a standard fare, so effectively first class travel for the price of a meal.
Travelled on a line that was part of the main network and is now closed
- Alnwick branch, and Tyneside riverside loop, and Tyne Dock to South Shields via the old BR (British Rail(ways)) route nearer the river. I won’t count the parts of the Tyneside system that were converted to Metro as they’re mostly still there and in use. 
Driven a train
- twice (although under extremely close supervision) once in Alnwick goods yard, and later on a works train lifting the Alnwick branch.
Been to Aylesbury Vale Parkway Station
- just because it’s there, like Everest.
"Bought" a zero cost excess
- not quite, but successfully negotiated my way out of an attempt to charge a suspect excess (via Westbury!)
Travelled on the Lymington to Yarmouth ferry
- once just to tick it off.
Crossed the Atlantic by ship
- 3 return trips (if you count getting to Antigua via the South Atlantic and returning direct).
Helped a fellow passenger lift their luggage on or off a train
- yes a couple of times
Overslept your station
- aiming for Newcastle, had to overnight in Morpeth. Got very early bus back.
Travelled through the Channel Tunnel
- two return trips, one on the first day at St Pancras
Let your originally planned train go because it was too busy
- on LU a few times
Used a rover or ranger ticket
- a few, but a highlight was using a bus red rover on the tube all day - in late sixties I think.
Changed trains at Westbury
- a few times en route to/from Plymouth but not since about 1982
Travelled on the DLR (Docklands Light Railway)
- many times
14  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Storing petrol on: September 26, 2021, 01:26:45 pm

Petrol is the new toilet rolls!

Don’t try this at home though…

15  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Storing petrol on: September 24, 2021, 09:42:10 pm
I've seen several social media posts where people are blaming traditional media for the panic buying.

I've not read a single news item that tells people to stock up. In fact, nearly all items have quotes from industry and politicians saying there is no need to panic buy.

Classic cases of shooting the messenger.

It was only when the government said there was no need to panic that I realised how serious this is, and panicked.
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