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Sideshoots - associated subjects / Railway History and related topics / Re: What's the link?
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on: July 27, 2023, 22:42:49
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Pneumatic railways! (Though I'm not sure if Foyles' one was a true railway or just a cyclinder-in-tube one.)
Yep, Pneumatic transport. I remember the Foyles system that took your cash and invoice to the central payment department and bright the receiptd invoice back. Well, if you’d mentioned my local Co-op in 1960s Newcastle I’d have got it straightaway…
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All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: Bus fare evasion arrest, Croydon
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on: July 27, 2023, 18:02:52
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Also on the DLR▸ to Lewisham on Monday I had my ticket checked - the guy was lovely about it but firmly believed that a national rail ticket with cross-London transfer included wasn't valid on DLR. This is partly down to the Elizabeth line, which has enabled a lot of new interchange options so staff are unfamiliar. We didn't want to start talking knives on the DLR but were able to point out that the ticket( had the † that indicated it was valid. My understanding of that cross was that you could use the London Underground (is the DLR underground?) or London Buses between two national rail stations. Is The Elizabeth Line part of London Underground or has it been added to the allowed routes? Although Lewisham (DLR) is in the National Rail list of cross London transfer stations, it’s not in the LU version of the list in their ticketing handbook - presumably because the latter is intended for underground staff. It’s possible that’s confused the revenue inspector, depending who he works for? On the other hand, the National Rail guidance doesn’t mention buses being generally available, although it does mention the use of night buses when the underground is closed. Paul
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All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: Bus fare evasion arrest, Croydon
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on: July 26, 2023, 00:46:27
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I believe on TfL» buses the revenue inspector can download a list of contactless cards that have been touched in, and when he scans a card he will be warned if it is not touched in. They can only do this on buses, and no other mode, because only the bus carries its touch in data around with it.
If you are on anything except a bus, then all they can do with contactless is to attempt to touch you in, this will only fail if the card is hotlisted due to previous issues. Otherwise the touch is resolved later as already mentioned.
Paul
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Journey by Journey / London to the West / Re: Dawlish - permanent resilience work - ongoing discussions
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on: July 09, 2023, 11:10:01
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Looking at the beachcam this morning, the down side lift tower was topped off overnight last night, and it looks as if the protective wall sections by the steps are now complete.
That suggests they will soon be in a position to fully open the promenade walkway, for a few weeks now it’s had a temporarily narrowed section on the seaward side of the lift tower, and I think one of the videos showed that on “opening day” there was still an under track concrete pipe present, hence a gap in the platform wall.
But definitely on the last stretch of the overall project now.
Paul
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All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Southern - west coastway proposed changes
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on: July 01, 2023, 12:48:43
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On the last point I believe there’s only platform 3 that allows a train to do the crossing from east to west, and it’s a mid platform set of points so very short, only 4 car. The full platform 3 takes 12 cars as usual with the main part of Brighton station.
But even then I believe reliably timetabling a crossing move across the entire throat at Brighton is usually considered next to impossible, it must be quite a while since it was routinely done.
I think the 2017 SWR» proposals included a Portsmouth to Bournemouth through service, that was to be a semi fast on the Netley line but a stopper west of Southampton, but I don’t ever recall any serious proposals to have through trains to Lymington. I think the probable reason is that there’s only a finite capacity on the Redbridge to Brockenhurst section, with the mix of fast and stopping trains, and the timings on the branch are suited to a shuttle. If a through train an up service would have to cross to the up side west of Brockenhurst, and coincide with a suitable path towards Southampton.
Extending any SN service west of Southampton would always require an extra unit, or possibly units depending how far it went, but the times would have to fit in with SWR and XC▸ . SN used to run Victoria to Bournemouth until about 2003, (from memory), and the service was apparently binned because it carried very few through passengers and got in the way of more useful services.
I also suspect if you theoretically could extend a Brighton service through to Lymington Pier it would not be able to have an adequate layover at that end of the route, so the only option for reliability would probably be to do that at Brockenhurst.
Paul
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Journey by Journey / London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury / Re: Black Bridge, Nuneham: southern abutment failure
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on: June 09, 2023, 17:44:59
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*From Saturday 29 July until the early hours of Monday 7 August Network Rail will be working to upgrade the track just north of Oxford Station - installing new high speed crossovers. To the south of the station, Osney Lane footbridge will be modified, moving one of the piers to make way for track layout changes. Work will also be carried out to adjust the coping stones on platforms inside the station. Which of the piers are to be moved and where to? None of them seem to be intruding far into operational railway land at the moment. The new down through line (platform 5) alignment starts a short distance south of the footbridge, so the present three tracks under it become four. My money is on the western pier being moved a bit further west. I’ve subsequently found that’s definitely the case, it’s specifically mentioned in the TWA order inspectors report. Not much detail that I can find yet, but the track change extent is shown at the bottom of this drawing: https://sacuksprodnrdigital0001.blob.core.windows.net/twao-oxford-corridor-phase-2/Environmental%20Statement/Volume%203%20-%20Book%20of%20figures/Ch%2002%20-%20Figure%202.1%20-%20Scheme%20Layout%20and%20Location.pdfBut is this the best place to discuss it, or should the question be moved to the main Oxford station thread? Paul
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