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4501  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Penalty fares go live in April 2010 on: July 03, 2010, 15:11:16
There must be a situation that can arise where a PF (Penalty Fare) is issued, and then it is discovered later (back at the office maybe) that the culprit is a serial offender.

If he's paid up, is that it?

Since a Penalty Fare is a fare, not a fine, you can't become an offender for receiving one, and you can't become a 'serial offender' it you are issued more than one...


Whatever, if they don't keep records I'd be amazed.  Even if offender was the wrong word, I'd be surprised if they don't have lists of PFs issued on their PDAs...

Paul



4502  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Penalty fares go live in April 2010 on: July 02, 2010, 20:02:41
There must be a situation that can arise where a PF (Penalty Fare) is issued, and then it is discovered later (back at the office maybe) that the culprit is a serial offender.

If he's paid up, is that it? Or do mobile RPIs (Revenue Protection Inspector (or Retail Price Index, depending on the context)) have the ability to check by phone? Can a PF be refunded and a summons issued anyway - maybe there's some appropriate small print on the notice?

Paul
4503  Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Re: Cable theft at Paddington causes severe disruption - 23 June 2010 on: July 01, 2010, 14:33:40
Power Cable running with 650volts in it (scrap valve for 100 metres if stripped down about ^200-^500 for 100 metres).


Surely this cable is only on third-rail electrified routes?  Even on those routes I'd be surprised if it ran in the same trough as signalling cable - wouldn't that cause interference problems?

No, 650 volt AC - [corrected - shouldn't have guessed if unsure  Undecided ] is the normal BR (British Rail(ways)) trackside power supply, all over the country. That's signalling, telecoms, heaters, AWS (Automatic Warning System) etc etc.

DC (Direct Current) traction power supplies mean more big cables again, fortunately for some reason they seem not to be such a popular target - I expect because even the scrotes armed with hacksaws and croppers realise they aren't going to trip the breakers, as the protection arrangements are designed to allow for the 1000s of Amps drawn by trains in normal operation.

Paul
4504  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Class 180 Adelantes - discussions, including their return to FGW on: June 26, 2010, 14:38:19
How about Trans Pennine using them for their 'Scottish' services? 

Five units would only allow for four daily diagrams - so it could only be a small proportion of the existing WCML (West Coast Main Line) services presumably. Could it work if they used 180s only to Edinburgh, allowing doubled up 185s to Glasgow for example?

Paul
4505  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: T cup reverts to the old circle ........ on: June 24, 2010, 19:49:09
....especialy if by then LUL (London Underground Ltd) try the T cup again.

Er.. it's only a three week engineering work closure then back to the 'T cup', which is already permanent - have you misread something?

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Will it be fully disabled access?
P15/16 definitely will be - as shown in the planning drawings I quoted earlier.  Not sure about the NR» (Network Rail - home page) platforms from the footbridge, but aren't they level access from the concourse end?

Paul

4506  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: T cup reverts to the old circle ........ on: June 23, 2010, 18:41:22
Thast's not what Is was told yesterday - to access 15/16 you need to exit via the other bridge to the canal area & re-enter via the northernm ticket hall concourse.

The bridge to 10/11 & 13/14 will be exactly that, blocked off beyond 13/14.....

I'm going by that planning documentation that was posted here a while back. It clearly shows a gateline at both ends on figure 3.2.2. of the 'design and access statement'.

http://idocs.westminster.gov.uk:8080/WAM/showCaseFileDocs.do?appNumber=09/09265/LBC

Having said that - maybe the direct access has to close at some stage of the project, while they demolish all the existing LU platform's roof, stairs, disused lift shafts etc etc?

Paul
4507  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: T cup reverts to the old circle ........ on: June 23, 2010, 11:01:51
When complete, there will be no access to LUL (London Underground Ltd) off the current bridge, only via the new northern entrance....

Not quite Chris. Although the current bridge over platforms 10/11 and 13/14 will not give direct access to the LU platforms, there will be a gateline at its north end giving direct access into the LU concourse, so access from there to 15/16 will no longer be on the paid side of a common gateline, but it will be possible.

Paul
4508  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Scottish Borders Railway - rebuilt Waverley Route link to Edinburgh on: June 22, 2010, 09:24:59
...but even more unbelievable that BAM (they of Cambridge busway) are in contention Shocked

BAM Nuttall work regularly all over the railway, they are currently doing Chiltern's Evergreen 3 for instance. How can you be sure that the busway isn't the fault of someone else, such as the designers?

Paul
4509  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: T cup reverts to the old circle ........ on: June 22, 2010, 01:10:37
Seems a bit harsh to suspend the service from Hammersmith to Edgware Road completely.  Couldn't the H&S (Health and Safety) services still run between Hammersmith and Park Royal using the crossover that was used when Edgware Road was bombed - or is there an issue with trains being locked in that section for that length of time?


If you follow the link to the newsletter LU must have decided that it is more efficient to deal with stuff like platform extensions and track renewals in a full blockade.  IIRC (if I recall/remember/read correctly) some quite significant changes are needed at Hammersmith to allow for the longer S7 stock.

Paul
4510  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Class 180 Adelantes - discussions, including their return to FGW on: June 19, 2010, 20:50:35
They should give some of them at least back to FGW (First Great Western).  I don't know why an earth they got rid of them all in the first place.  They are nice trains.  

I thought it was generally believed that First Group bought up a load of spare HSTs (High Speed Train) specifically so that they could give up the unreliable and non-standard 180s, and save their leasing costs? 

It does seem odd to me that so many people (both here and in other forums)  think the spare 180s will end up with FGW...  You can be pretty sure DfT» (Department for Transport - about) aren't going to cover the extra leasing costs.

Paul
4511  Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Re: Air Con that makes turbo trains warmer on: June 18, 2010, 18:08:32

LUL (London Underground Ltd) have a system for air conditioning tube trains (i.e the ones in the small dia, deep tunnels).

The compressors will be off in the tunnels, so no condenser heat will be emitted.

The appliance of Science,

OTC

I think you are talking about an idea that has been proposed.  It doesn't exist yet, and until it is specified for a new fleet, it remains theoretical...

Paul
4512  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Class 180 Adelantes - discussions, including their return to FGW on: June 18, 2010, 12:36:43
I believe that allocating small numbers of a relatively small fleet (14) to quite a few different operators is too inefficient. If two operators was the minimum, how about 'engineering' the transfer of the 5 to GC» (Great Central Railway - link to heritage line) and HT (Hull Trains) so that they culd run more or longer services?

Then using the odd spare coaches that are about (IIRC (if I recall/remember/read correctly) even GC have some unused spares) make GC's 3 short HSTs (High Speed Train) up to 7, 8 or 9 coaches and offer them to FGW (First Great Western), EMT» (East Midlands Trains - about) or even ECML (East Coast Main Line) Co.   

Can't really see 180s with FGW again though, unless enough top people have changed for them to have conveniently forgotten how they rushed to get rid of them originally...

On a separate point, weren't ATW (Arriva Trains Wales (former TOC (Train Operating Company))) & Northern both in an odd position regarding rolling stock - how could they be short of DMUs (Diesel Multiple Unit) but still able to loan 150s or 142s to FGW when push came to shove?  You'd have to assume therefore that they were leasing more stock than the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) would subsidise them to use?  I seem to recall a situation where ATW wanted to run such and such a service half hourly rather than hourly, and although they had the stock there was no funding...  So the loans to FGW may have avoided the embarrasment of stock sitting in sidings.

Away from DMUs, that's surely the position with EMUs (Electric Multiple Unit) such as the Southeastern 508s.  Everyone wonders why they haven't gone to Merseyside. I reckon it's because Merseytravel themselves can't afford them even though the RUS (Route Utilisation Strategy) is full of ideas about strengthening services, and altering depots etc etc...

Last but not least, the Gatwick Express 460s will by all accounts be stored within a few months, as SWT (South West Trains)'s HLOS (High Level Output Specification) inrease is supposedly dead.

Paul
4513  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Great Western Main Line electrification - ongoing discussion on: June 17, 2010, 23:04:22
The only crumb of comfort is that electrification wasn't included as part of today's announcement about the hit list of projects cancelled or under review. Though there's a steady drip feed of announcements at the moment, so probably best not to read too much into it.

Today's list is all post Jan 2010 'electioneering announcements' according to most reports. Comparable with the ^50m for marginal constituencies, nearly all in the NW, oops, should have said station improvements...    Roll Eyes

Paul
4514  Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Re: Air Con that makes turbo trains warmer on: June 17, 2010, 19:11:25
Traditional LUL (London Underground Ltd) cars have roof mounted extract fans - it is now realised that they should blow rather than suck. LUL have  been learning and new tube cars (as well as surface stock) will have a/c - but with the compressors off in tunnels, to avoid adding to overheating.

The next 'tube' stock to be ordered presumably, as the Victoria Line 09 stock is forced air only.

Paul

Only the sub surface lines will have ac.  On the other lines there is simply no where for the hot air to go in the tunnel so ac is not possible.

I must admit that's what I thought as well - just trying to be gentle with my criticism...  Wink

Paul
4515  Journey by Journey / London to Reading / Re: Air Con that makes turbo trains warmer on: June 16, 2010, 23:43:23
Traditional LUL (London Underground Ltd) cars have roof mounted extract fans - it is now realised that they should blow rather than suck. LUL have  been learning and new tube cars (as well as surface stock) will have a/c - but with the compressors off in tunnels, to avoid adding to overheating.

The next 'tube' stock to be ordered presumably, as the Victoria Line 09 stock is forced air only.

Paul
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