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16  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues on: August 05, 2018, 12:55:33 pm
People who draw red circles on train seats should be prosecuted Smiley
17  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Future fare system - what elements should it include? on: August 05, 2018, 12:47:32 pm
On local trains or shorter journeys for which seat reservations are not available, I agree that one should consider giving up a seat for someone less able.

On a longer distance service for which one has paid a lot of money and booked a seat, I am now more reluctant to stand.
Whilst some would say "of course you should still stand for children, elderly, and other deserving cases"
That is in effect saying that someone like myself should NEVER take a seat on say the 19-03 from Paddington. There are ALLWAYS standing passengers on that service, at least in the summer, and there will ALLWAYS be among those standing some who consider that they need a seat. (Or two seats for a parent and young child)

I am opposed to air travel due to the fuel used and environmental damage done, but one can see the attraction of air versus rail.
I have never heard of an airline expecting a customer to stand in order that a parent and child may have two seats for one ticket.
18  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Future fare system - what elements should it include? on: August 05, 2018, 11:17:09 am
In the case to which I refer, I had not only paid the full first class fare but had also booked a seat and had taken my booked seat, but was still asked to stand by the train manager in order that a mother and baby could have two seats.

It would seem that having a child not only gets two seats for the price of one, but also overrides a booking.

I was later refused a refund of the difference between first and standard class.
19  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Future fare system - what elements should it include? on: August 05, 2018, 07:52:33 am
The one that annoys me the most is free travel for under fives (under six or seven in practice as no one checks) The theory used to be that young children sat on the lap of the owner.
These days the owner of the child expects a free seat for the child, and can be very militant in demanding this.

I was pretty disgusted when having paid the full open single fare, I was "asked" by the train manager to stand in order that a mother and child could sit (i.e. have two seats with one ticket)
The mother seemed disgusted that she had to seek the assistance of staff, and expected two seats to be an automatic entitlement.

I am also very doubtful about half price tickets for children, since the parents are very militant in expecting/demanding a seat for the child at the expense of those who paid for an adult ticket.
20  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Not just GWR... on: August 04, 2018, 07:41:51 pm
Those whom live in glass houses - -

The reliability of GWR services is far behind that of the bridge crossing.
Weekends=staff shortages
Weekdays=short trains
 
Moderately bad weather, during which roads and airlines work normally, throws the railway into chaos.
21  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues on: August 04, 2018, 12:01:53 pm
Presuming that you were NOT hallucinating, then I am impressed if the promised hot food service in standard class is actually appearing.
I remain un impressed by the lack of a buffet, the hard seats, the frequent short formations and the absence of a through gangway on allegedly intercity trains.
22  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues on: August 04, 2018, 11:20:36 am
The usual selection of half length IETs today.
Two things that I noticed, firstly at least two short formations are listed as being 5 car instead of 9 car. rather than the usual 5 car instead of 10 car. This suggests that the very recently introduced 9 car units are starting to fail.

Also as the IETS spread, more destinations are suffering downgrading to DMUs. Weston Super Mare and Hereford are now affected, which will no doubt upset the tourist authorities in those places.
23  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Great Western Main Line electrification - ongoing discussion on: August 03, 2018, 01:32:44 pm
Meanwhile the newts are no doubt breeding, but not of course breeding to the extent that they become no longer endangered. Indeed the present drought  must be increasing the hazards to newts.
24  Journey by Journey / London to the West / Re: More dangerous overcrowding to the Westcountry on: August 03, 2018, 01:01:11 pm
You may be right in that a more frequent service will make up for half length trains.

However ISTR that they said that about the Voyagers ! In fact voyagers were too short from day one, are still too short, and are generally accepted to have been a failure.

So have lessons been learnt from the voyager problems ? It would appear not. "lets build another batch of short DMUs for long distance services"

And it must be said in addition to the new shorter IETs, the existing west country services are routinely short formed despite all the promises made about extra capacity from cascaded Turbos, and shortened HSTs.
25  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues on: August 03, 2018, 07:23:47 am
A number of the 5 car units have now been in service for 9 months ... and running prior to that for testing.  Routine maintenance programs were laid down with the introduction, with (this bit not exact) monthly, quarterly and annual elements.  It has turned out that one particular time-consuming task that was supposed to be annual is actually needed quarterly at present, and (?) pending potential engineering changes and additional availability of more trained maintenance staff, Hitachi have a challenge.  Problem noted, reasons known, actions in place to fix the issue.

This gives rise to at least two questions.
Firstly, do we know what the problem is ? Is it the not very accessible radiator that becomes debris clogged and is a challenge to clean ? or something else.

Secondly, whatever the problem is, will it also affect the mechanically VERY similar 9 car units ?

Are Hitachi paying the price in money for all this non availability of the new trains, or is there some wiggle room whereby they can claim that it is a customer problem and not a supplier problem.
26  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues on: August 03, 2018, 06:32:54 am
The seating capacity of a 5+5 IET and a 9 car are virtually identical, so the substitution of a 9 car for a 5+5 is of almost no direct significance to the passenger.

It does however perhaps suggest a worrying level of non availability of 5 car units.
A pair of 5 car units are broken, so send a 9 car.
9 car unit therefore not available for planned working.
Send an HST instead of the 9 car.
All well and good whilst HSTs are still available, but when they are gone ?
27  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues on: August 02, 2018, 05:29:44 pm
AFAIK, the intention is to run many services as 5+5 car from London to Plymouth* with a single 5 car unit going forward.
The intention is that all busy services will be full length, with relatively small numbers of lightly used services being 5 car throughout.

However my natural cynicism leads me to suspect that many services planned as 5+5 for the busy part of the route, will in fact be 5 car throughout.
I also suspect that some busy services that should be 9 car or 5+5 will end up being 5 car.

Many recent short formations have been due to train faults, and whilst the delivery of the 9 car sets will help some routes or services, if the 5 car units do not improve then the problem is only transferred to whatever route or service that the 5 car units are used on.

*Or a suitable point on another route.
28  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Crossrail - The Elizabeth Line - ongoing discussion, merged topics on: August 02, 2018, 10:57:23 am
It is noticeable that in general that the older bits of the tube are the hottest. They have had well over a century to warm the surrounding earth.
Newpaper reports from the early days of the Central London Railway remark on how cool it was there.


Indeed, I have read somewhere that the increase in temperature is very roughly one tenth of a degree a year. About ten degrees a century then. Very roughly 15 degrees about 150 years ago has increased to very roughly 30 degrees today.
No great accuracy can be claimed as the measured temperature varies a lot depending on when and where measured.

Older parts of the deep level tube may soon become dangerous without active cooling and preferably dehumidification.
29  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Crossrail - The Elizabeth Line - ongoing discussion, merged topics on: August 02, 2018, 09:34:45 am

While the high temperature results mostly from traction current/braking (which won't change, unless the service has to be reduced), the high humidity (which results from too many customers) may well come down.

It is high humidity that causes discomfort and eventually heat stroke by limiting the ability of the body to sweat and hence cool evaporatively.

OTC

Regenerative braking also helps a little since energy from braking a train is returned to the supply, rather than being dissipated as heat in the tunnel.
More efficient lighting in trains and on platforms helps a little, but it must be said that the existing lighting is reasonably efficient.
On the other hand, temperatures will probably continue to increase as the earth around the tunnels continues to heat up.
It is noticeable that in general that the older bits of the tube are the hottest. They have had well over a century to warm the surrounding earth.
30  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent performance issues on: August 02, 2018, 09:04:05 am
Sad thing for me is that the travelling public will largely blame the new technology for these problems (50% of trains locked OOU etc) when it's all down to a good old-fashioned (and I mean old-fashioned) industrial dispute  Angry

I blame the problems on the ordering of a fleet of mainly 5 car DMUs for so called inter city services.
The order should have been mainly 9 car with perhaps a limited number of short units for lightly used services.

Some naysayers like me predicted that short formations would be a regular event as has happened.
Whilst the obstructive attitude of the RMT has not helped (other multiple units run without a union member in each portion), a lot of the short formations yesterday and today, have been due to train faults and not RMT demands.
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