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1  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Infrastructure problems in Thames Valley causing disruption elsewhere - ongoing, since Oct 2014 on: Yesterday at 05:58:38 am
Electric units blocking all lines between Slough & Paddington. Nothing moving east of Slough/Reading until at least lunchtime.

Have pax been evacuated or are train managers taking orders for breakfast now ?

Sorry, don't want to offend RMT so I'll add drivers to that quote where DOO applies.

.... and ASLEF.
2  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Infrastructure problems in Thames Valley causing disruption elsewhere - ongoing, since Oct 2014 on: Yesterday at 05:43:38 am
Electric units blocking all lines between Slough & Paddington. Nothing moving east of Slough/Reading until at least lunchtime.

Have pax been evacuated or are train managers taking orders for breakfast now ?

Sorry, don't want to offend RMT so I'll add drivers to that quote where DOO applies.
3  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Infrastructure problems in Thames Valley causing disruption elsewhere - ongoing, since Oct 2014 on: Yesterday at 05:39:47 am
Electric units blocking all lines between Slough & Paddington. Nothing moving east of Slough/Reading until at least lunchtime.

Have pax been evacuated or are train managers taking orders for breakfast now ?
4  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Infrastructure problems in Thames Valley causing disruption elsewhere - ongoing, since Oct 2014 on: Yesterday at 05:00:32 am
And opentraintimes maps appear frozen nationwide, so ...
1) us laypeople can't see what's happening
and
b) conspiracy theory - have NR cut the real-time information feed because of the disruptions (this one and the power outage at Victoria) tonight?
Still appears to be frozen as of 01:15 Wednesday.

Still appears to be frozen as of 04:55 too with over 100 cancellations on JourneyCheck already, shuttle service between Didcot - Reading and Slough.

Wonder if they'll declare today a void day before its even got going ?

Everybody take the day off.

I think that's what they mean when they say 'NOT ATTEMPT TO TRAVEL BY TRAIN'.
5  Journey by Journey / Bristol Commuters / Re: Four track for Filton Bank - ongoing discussion on: October 16, 2018, 06:07:21 pm
I thought that some signalling enhancements were carried out a few years ago to allow pax services to run the loop when works in conjunction with platform 3 at FIT undertaken. Previously when pax were run on the loop a Pilotman had to be used between Avonmouth and Chittenham.

Be interested to find out if anyone knows what enhancements were done?  Would certainly mean less work in the long run which 'sometimes' helps make for a better case for re-instatement!
I'll have a look through my records, but it might take a few days (probably at the coming weekend).

Had a look through the records I have.  They are dated 1992.  They show the single line loop from Filton Abbey Wood to Filton West as signalled to passenger line standards using Track Circuit Block (TCB).  Nothing to stop passenger services using that line and the double track to Holesmouth Junction, which is also signalled to passenger line standards using TCB.

If I remember correctly the track between Avonmouth Station and Holesmouth Junction or Chittenham as I stated was signalled for through running but as the routing Avonmouth to Parkway had a number of consecutive ground signals a Pilotman was employed between Avonmouth and Holesmouth. I travelled in both directions at the time into Bristol on a Cardiff - Pompey service from Patchway via the curve to the closed Filton North Platform and from BRI to Parkway on a Voyager. We picked up the Pilotman at Avonmouth who rode to Holesmouth/Chittenham where the Pilotman detrained to pilot another Voyager to Avonmouth and thence the Voyager would continue to BRI.

The Severn Riviera line was RR'ed that weekend with diverted services passing at Clifton Down.

The enhancements I mentioned was merely to replace the ground signals by colour light 3 aspect signals. I WAS surprised by the use of a pilotman on the occasion as I had travelled over the route on specials previously with no problem but I presume with a number of movements involved it was as a precaution as I was informed NR didn't take kindly to passenger trains being signalled past more that 1 consecutive ground signal on a signalled routing.
6  Journey by Journey / Bristol Commuters / Re: Bristol's Temple Gate layout change planned in £21m revamp on: October 14, 2018, 09:57:20 pm
Well not really - the eastern half, from St James Barton to Temple Meads, is still very much in evidence as a major road, despite the diversion around Cabot Circus. Surely the thing that killed it deader as a Ring Roads was - well - removing half of it? The junction at the end of the M32, inevitably, was always heavily loaded; I'm not sure we can reliably state that that the diversion has made things worse. Increasing car ownership has probably been more significant.

Before Cabot Circus you had traffic from SJB to M32, OM & OMU, now we have the same plus OM/OMU to M32 merging into the previous 3 traffic flows with god knows how many traffic lights and remember we had a pedestrian bridge over the ICR by the Spectrum Building which has been replaced by 2 sets of pedestrian lights and then there is the myriad of pedestrian lights around The Bearpit which slows traffic down despite GF's 20mph speed limit.


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No; buses went round the Square for a period but other traffic was diverted down The Grove. This was all done in the context of an overall plan to downgrade the western half of the Inner Circuit Road, which (as I alluded elsewhere) had blighted some of Bristol's most historic areas.

There is no access to many of the premises around Queen Square other than their front doors and whilst inbound traffic was recommended to use The Grove, outbound traffic still preferred to use the square because it was quicker than waiting for a gap in inbound traffic from the square to turn right into Prince Street and at the Bascule Bridge waiting to turn right out of The Grove by The Severn Shed.
7  Journey by Journey / Bristol Commuters / Re: Bristol's Temple Gate layout change planned in £21m revamp on: October 14, 2018, 08:46:57 pm
You've hit the nail very squarely on the head there, grahame.

The route you describe formed part of the Inner Circuit Road, and the Tempry Flyover was to have been the precursor to a much bigger junction which was to be developed as this road was enlarged. In the 1970s it slowly began to dawn in the City Parents (well OK; Fathers in them days) that most of the through traffic they were trying to divert around the city centre was actually quite capable of bypassing the city altogether, mostly via the M5. Others had spotted that the motorway across Queen Square was not as lovely as they had first hoped, nor was the racetrack around The Centre. So ever so quietly they killed the Inner Circuit Road using the Death of a Thousand Cuts. Local traffic now goes a bit further south via Temple Gate, and then heads west along York or Clarence Road (instead of roaring past St Mary Redcliffe church). It was also noted that surrounding Bristol's great ecclesiastical masterpiece with dual carriageways on two sides had not enhanced its setting. One of these - Redcliffe Way - is now in its overdue death throes, leaving the other (Redcliff Hill) looking a bit oversized for a road that connects a smallish car park at one end to an elevated motorway that (thankfully) was never built at the other. It can't be long before that too becomes nothing but a bad memory...

I thought the Inner Circuit Road was killed off when sime pillock on BCC recommended that a shopping centre be built bisecting the road and merging a number of traffic flows into one only for the merged traffic flow to be split further on and causing daily gridlock in the morning and evening peaks.

.... the motorway across Queen Square was not as lovely as they had first hoped ....

Yes, I remember that, but didn't the experts shut off the motorway and divert the outbound traffic around the north and east perimeter roads with inbound traffic round the south and west perimeter roads making those roads a one way square rounabout.
8  Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon / Re: Sinkhole at Newton Abbot - main line closed 14/10/18 on: October 14, 2018, 08:26:28 pm

This is an old document and from recent reported incidents I am sceptical whether the actions GWR committed to in that document ever materialises or whether the deployments mentioned actually take place or whether its a printers error and failed to include in the "deployment to stations" statement the word "messrooms" was omitted after the word "stations" in view of the numerous comments on this forum regarding frontline staff evaporating at the first sign of disruption.

Old document, well read it and find the statement ;-

In 2015/2016, customers will also benefit ....
9  Journey by Journey / Bristol Commuters / Re: Bristol's Temple Gate layout change planned in £21m revamp on: October 14, 2018, 07:16:40 pm
The next phase of this junction improvement kicks in on 21 Oct 2018

Looks like traffic coming south down Temple Way wanting to head west on Redcliffe Way can't.  Isn't that the very journey the flyover used to provide?   Not really needed now??  Not sure if that was possible in previous phases either - I normally just hoof it from Temple Meads ...

They can, travel south over south bound Bath Road bridge do a u-turn onto the north bound Bath Road bridge and thence to Redcliffe Way. A two way flyover over the alignment of the "temporary" flyover would have been the best plan but you know Bristol Politicians, can't see any further than the end of their noses.
10  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Where do YOU travel on: October 14, 2018, 06:58:55 pm
Yate to Bristol (PW & TM)
Yate to Didcot
Yate to Gloucester
Yate to Taunton
Yate to Weymouth
Yate to Cardiff
Yate to Parson Street
Yate to Paignton
Yate to Weston-Super-Mare
Yate to Warminster (for ImberBus)
Yate to Glasgow (sorry EasyJet for this one)

and returns from above destinations.
11  Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon / Re: Sinkhole at Newton Abbot - main line closed 14/10/18 on: October 14, 2018, 05:32:11 pm
What happened to David Camerons pledge to bring forward a plan to ensure that the closure of the line should never happen again.
12  Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon / Re: Sinkhole at Newton Abbot - main line closed 14/10/18 on: October 14, 2018, 05:28:39 pm
From JourneyCheck ;-

Cancellations to services between Liskeard and Looe.
 
Due to urgent repairs to the track between Liskeard and Looe the line is closed.

Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.


Customer Advice

The train that would normally be used to run this branch line is being used to run additional services between Newton Abbot and Truro because of urgent repairs to the main line following the collapse of a culvert beneath the track near Newton Abbot.

Further Information

An update will follow within the next 3 hours.

Last Updated:14/10/2018 17:16


Why oh why does conflicting information get put on JourneyCheck to confuse the already delayed passenger.

13  Journey by Journey / Bristol Commuters / Re: Bristol's lost railways stations on: October 14, 2018, 05:16:11 pm
Would like to see the routing from, right at Mangotsfield to Yatton, my suggestion, without a reversal, Mangotsfield to Gloucester, thence towards Newport taking the curve at Maindee East to join the Welsh Marches line to Hereford thence through Great Malvern to Worcester, Cheltenham and Yate taking the original GWR curve to join the South Wales Main Line at Westerleigh Junction to Stoke Gifford taking the line to Filton Abbey Wood to Temple Meads and thence to Yatton.

I think the journalist meant Yate.
14  Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon / Re: Sinkhole at Newton Abbot - main line closed 14/10/18 on: October 14, 2018, 10:42:22 am
Culvert?

That's a dead end street isn't it?


Thats a cul-de-sac  Grin
15  Journey by Journey / Shorter journeys in Devon / Re: Sinkhole at Newton Abbot - main line closed 14/10/18 on: October 14, 2018, 10:37:59 am
When did “sinkhole” become the all embracing term used by journalists for any underground fault such as the aforesaid collapsed culvert?

Is “collapsed culvert” too difficult to understand?

Paul



That'll be at least a weeks work to repair.
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