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1  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: FirstBust ? on: Today at 12:34:39 am
First don't need to bid for the Greater Western franchise. The government keep giving it to them!

Possibly another four before there's a franchise competition. So that's either four more years with First at the helm, or the DfT taking over if FirstGroup fails.

They're skimming along at the bottom financially at the moment. If their banks start making noises...
2  Sideshoots - associated subjects / The Lighter Side / Re: The end of civilisation in Cornwall as we kernow it? on: Yesterday at 08:57:30 pm
A Devon & Cornwall music festival, featuring classic British bands, has been cancelled.

Organisers couldn't agree whether The Jam or Cream should go on first.
3  Sideshoots - associated subjects / News, Help and Assistance / Re: Cancellation map - what it's showing on: June 20, 2018, 09:01:05 pm
Sadly, "Broadway" in Didcot is probably one of the shabbiest streets in south east England outside Greater London, even though it's now just a few paces away from the recent Orchard Centre which has at least brought a  selection of national chain stores to Didcot.

Thatcham Broadway is not exactly glamorous either...

Well, give them my regards.  Tongue
4  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Incident at Loughborough Junction, South London. Three dead. 18/6/2018 on: June 19, 2018, 08:14:44 pm
I for one wont be mourning the loss of three prolific criminals.

You're a criminal if you're convicted. Do we know that any of these three had a criminal record? Let alone being prolific criminals. I'd prefer to say, based only social media postings about them, that they may have been persistent law breakers.

They were breaking the law (very distinct from being a criminal - innocent until proved guilty) and have paid a heavy price. I have sympathy for them as their 'punishment' has been way beyond that usually given for the laws they were breaking.

Of course I have sympathy for their families and friends too. And for the driver of the train who is now having to come to terms with the news. That will weigh heavily, although it would appear that this driver was unaware his train had hit persons. He's been mercifully spared the dreadful 'first person view'. I also have nothing but respect for the emergency services and those involved in recovery of the victims.

What I can't do though is speak ill of the dead, outrightly condemning them, in this case.


5  Journey by Journey / South Western services / Re: Isle of Wight futures. on: June 19, 2018, 05:48:36 pm
Can the new trains be adapted to shorter lengths though.

Modern tube stock design is geared to fixed formation fully open walk through. The traction package is designed for the required length too.

I don't think it would be as simple as just paring down a full length train to 2/3 carriages length required by Island Line.
6  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Same-day Advance fare trial on GWR on: June 19, 2018, 01:08:23 pm
Not really another ticket type.

Just extending the purchasing deadline of existing Advance Purchase fares and tweaking the reservation requirements. After the existing purchase deadline is passed the reservation system will still issue booked train details but the seat reservation will be marked xx xx.
7  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway since September 2017 - ongoing discussion on: June 18, 2018, 11:46:16 pm
How do you propose GWR pursue the matter then?

Sunday working has been an issue since BR days. Many TOCs have got a handle on it. The majority of the Greater Western franchise area has been in the hands of the same parent company almost since day one of privatisation. The expanded franchise has been with FirstGroup since 2006.

Let's let GWR continue to pursue the matter at their current glacial pace shall we? They've only had 12 years to achieve something.  Roll Eyes

I'm with TG on this one. Time for some toecaps to connect with fundaments.
8  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Incident at Loughborough Junction, South London. Three dead. 18/6/2018 on: June 18, 2018, 12:22:55 pm
To add to the above, as well as that part of the station in use, there are disused platforms through which trains frequently pass, but that have no safe facility for boarding or alighting.

The incident occurred away from Loughborough Road station on the South London Line between Denmark Hill station and Canterbury Road Junction. Approximately where I've pinned in this screengrab:

9  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Incident at Loughborough Junction, South London. Three dead. 18/6/2018 on: June 18, 2018, 11:34:06 am
I've started a topic on this incident too.

See: http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=19956.new#new

A merge mods?
10  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Incident at Loughborough Junction, South London. Three dead. 18/6/2018 on: June 18, 2018, 11:32:49 am
Some extremely insensitive and ghoulish helicopter footage on Sky News feeds. Zooming in on the body recovery. I'm not going to link to it as I hope Sky News realise just how unnecessary the footage is and remove it.
11  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Incident at Loughborough Junction, South London. Three dead. 18/6/2018 on: June 18, 2018, 11:20:54 am
BTP statement:

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Shortly after 7.30am this morning, officers from British Transport Police were called to Loughborough Junction in South London following a report of multiple bodies being found.

Police and paramedics from the London Ambulance Service attended the scene, however three people were sadly pronounced dead at the scene.

Officers remain at the scene where they are working to identify the deceased and inform their families. A number of enquiries are also underway to establish the circumstances of how the people came to be on the tracks. 

Detective Superintendent Gary Richardson from British Transport Police, said: “My team are now working hard to understand what happened and how these three people came to lose their life on the railway.

“My thoughts are with the family and friends of these three people. 

“At this time, we are treating their death as unexplained as we make a number of immediate enquiries. I would ask anyone who was near to Loughborough Junction this morning, and saw something which they think might be relevant, please contact us as soon as possible.”

Train services will be delayed whilst these enquiries are made – therefore, please check with National Rail Enquiries before travelling.

Information can be passed to BTP by sending a text to 61016 or by calling 0800 40 50 40 quoting reference 93 of 18/06/2018.
http://media.btp.police.uk/r/15574/three_people_struck_by_train___south_london_

Initial reports have said that the three were hit by a train. That's not confirmed by BTP in their statement.
12  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Incident at Loughborough Junction, South London. Three dead. 18/6/2018 on: June 18, 2018, 11:02:17 am
Breaking news from the BBC:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44520759

 
13  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Bossing The Crossing on: June 18, 2018, 09:34:03 am
so are conventional flashing road lights the correct solution for pedestrians who probably don't have a clue what they mean and generally can't see them close up anyway?

The road lights are supplemented by flashing 'red man' lights at a more pedestrian friendly height. Not forgetting the audible warning. Six flashing red lights each side and a klaxxon should be enough.

14  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Bossing The Crossing on: June 18, 2018, 07:45:50 am
Doesn't provide an alternative for those on bikes*, with pushchairs, or for the infirm/disabled. Like the regular pedestrians all those are just as able to ignore the Highway Code.


What is also interesting about the footbridge is, once the red lights are showing everyone who chooses to use it is technically breaking the law. Can anyone guess why?



* They could carry their bikes over the footbridge, but won't be thanked by pedestrians users of said bridge.
15  Sideshoots - associated subjects / Campaigns for new and improved services / Re: Heathfield Branch Line - freight use and campaign to restore passenger services on: June 18, 2018, 07:10:45 am
Was it really 20 years ago?!


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