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13996  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Split ticketing question - BRI to LIV this wednesday on: September 20, 2010, 22:32:08
BOOK ADVS BEFORE MIDNIGHT!

OUT
XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) 0900 Bristol TM(resolve) - Cheltenham Spa 0940 1st Anytime Single (XC only) ^16.00
same train
0942 Cheltenham - Birmingham NS 1026 1st Advance ^13.55
change
LM (London Midland - recent franchise) 1101 Birmingham NS - Liverpool LS 1244 1st Advance ^12.55 

RTN
LM 1804 Liverpool LS - Birmingham NS 1947 1st Advance ^12.55
change
XC 2012 Birmingham NS - Cheltenham Spa 2051 1st Advance ^13.55
same train
2052 Cheltenham Spa - Bristol TM 2138 1st Advance ^10.90

Total: ^79.10 (1st Advance include valid 16-25 Railcard discount)

XC=CrossCountry
LM=London Midland

Best I can find.

13997  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: Split ticketing question - BRI to LIV this wednesday on: September 20, 2010, 22:00:40
You've quoted the single fare but mention 'Leave after 0900 - depart after 1700'.

Returning same day I take it?
13998  Journey by Journey / Heart of Wessex / Re: Weymouth 2012 on: September 20, 2010, 21:56:41
Increased train service frequency is planned from Waterloo and Bristol. I imagine the frequency can be increased between Castle Cary and Dorchester without too much problem; there are two passing places at Yeovil Pen Mill and Maiden Newton.

I think Weymouth Station will cope, maybe a temporary platform on the Quay branch alongside the coach park for a bit of extra capacity.

And I expect we'll see more loco hauled or maybe even HSTs (High Speed Train) from Bristol.
13999  Journey by Journey / Transport for London / Re: Crossrail/Elizabeth Line. From construction to operation - ongoing discussion on: September 20, 2010, 18:56:55
Perhaps it was written by a builder!  Grin

14000  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: New Off Peak Ticket Restriction Oxford Reading Cross Country? on: September 20, 2010, 18:07:23
Need two fellow travellers. Any takers?  Grin
14001  Journey by Journey / London to the West / Re: Pre Christmas and early New Year Travel to/from the West on: September 20, 2010, 13:58:26
Timetables can and do contain errors. I thought we'd covered this. I'm 99% certain there are currently 2 up Pullmans. Take a look at the FGW (First Great Western) Pullman Dining part of their website:

http://www.firstgreatwestern.co.uk/Content.aspx?id=70

If you are still not convinced then give Customer Services a call. Details upthread.
14002  Journey by Journey / Transport for London / Re: Crossrail/Elizabeth Line. From construction to operation - ongoing discussion on: September 20, 2010, 08:52:44
From Building Magazine:

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CBI warns spending review must not target Crossrail

Business group urges Treasury to protect work on Crossrail and Tube upgrades in order to boost growth

The CBI is calling on government to guarantee that Crossrail and work upgrading London^s Underground continues after next month^s Spending Review.

In a submission to the Treasury today, the business group said that as government limits spending it should prioritise areas that foster the economies ability to grow and and has outlined a number of proposals.

The government has said that it will make ^32bn of annual spending cuts by 2014/15. However, while the CBI agrees that spending must be limited to avoid major tax rises that would damage the UK (United Kingdom) economy and undermine competitiveness, it says protect funding in areas that foster economic growth must be protected.

It adds that the government must prioritse investment in infrastructure as well as research and development and education and training. Inparticualr it highlights the importance of investing in transport infrastructure as this offers high returns and will play a crucial role in boosting domestic and international trade.

This includes Crossrail and upgrades to London^s Underground as well as maintaining existing transport infrastructure and returning public sector capital investment to 2.25% of GDP.

The CBI says savings can be made by subjecting all public sector transport projects to rigorous value for money assessments and by attracting more private sector funding and by reducing concessionary fares and the number of Highways Agency contracts.

John Cridland, CBI deputy director general, said: ^Cutting spending means tough choices. We think that the need for economic growth, not the noise of the loudest voice, should determine where cuts are made. The Government must improve the efficiency of public services and focus the limited public money available on areas that do most to galvanise growth.^
14003  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: Newquay and Plymouth Airports - their rise and fall - ongoing discussion on: September 20, 2010, 08:46:48
From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

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Plymouth-based airline Air Southwest sold

Plymouth-based airline Air Southwest has been sold to Eastern Airways.

Air Southwest employs about 150 people and flies to UK (United Kingdom) regional airports as well as the Republic of Ireland and the Channel Islands.

Owner Sutton Harbour Holdings made the decision to sell in May after the airline's operating profits fell by ^600,000.

Air Southwest will continue to fly under its existing brand and staff will be employed by Air Southwest .

The airline was created in 2003 when British Airways withdrew flights to the South West.

Humberside-based Eastern Airways employs 420 staff and operates a fleet of 30 aircraft serving 21 destinations in the UK, Ireland, Norway and France.

Nigel Godefroy, chief executive of the Sutton Harbour Group, said: "Being part of a larger airline will bring stability to Air Southwest and that is good news for air travel to and from the far South West, and for Plymouth and Newquay airports."

Richard Lake, managing director of Eastern Airways, said: "Air Southwest is well regarded by its customers and we want to ensure we retain that loyalty by continuing to offer excellent service and value for money."
14004  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: Final Bristol VRT left in service with first on: September 19, 2010, 20:19:12
Um, blakey.... the bus to which anthony215 refers is intended to be draughty. It's the open topper that plied its trade around Weymouth in the summer.


There is a newer, recently converted, model of bus that First Hampshire & Dorset could use next year. Conversion carried out in Glasgow:

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=7427.msg74013#msg74013


 Grin
14005  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: New Off Peak Ticket Restriction Oxford Reading Cross Country? on: September 19, 2010, 18:07:33
Irrelevant whether NRCoC (National Rail Conditions of Carriage) is a Train Company publication.

It may well be nitpicking but the condition refers to Train Companies whose trains you are entitled to use. ATOC» (Association of Train Operating Companies See - here) doesn't run any trains, it is not a Train Company so under Section 12 it's publications bear no relevance to the use of a GroupSave ticket on CrossCountry.

A simple solution would be to re-word Section 12 to include mention of trains you cannot use.

Those TOCs (Train Operating Company) that offer GroupSave need to make clear in their notices and publications that GroupSave is not valid with certain operators to comply with the NRCoC. This should then be backed up by a printed restriction on the ticket to comply with Section 10. ALso, correct entries are needed in the fares manual. Until such time as this happens or the wording of the NRCoC Section 12 changes I remain of the opinion that GroupSave is valid on CrossCountry.

Not forgetting that outside of the NRCoC there is legislation that protects the consumer when there is ambiguity in the contract terms for the supply of goods or services:

The Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1994

Specifically Provision 6:

Construction of written contracts

6.  A seller or supplier shall ensure that any written term of a contract is expressed in plain, intelligible language, and if there is doubt about the meaning of a written term, the interpretation most favourable to the consumer shall prevail.
14006  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: New Off Peak Ticket Restriction Oxford Reading Cross Country? on: September 19, 2010, 15:59:16
Section 12 says:

These restrictions are set out in the notices and other publications of the Train Companies whose trains you are entitled to use.

ATOC» (Association of Train Operating Companies See - here) is not a Train Company.

14007  Journey by Journey / London to the West / Re: 17:39 Penzance - Paddington on: September 19, 2010, 10:31:44
Penzance to Paddington via Bristol is specifically mentioned in the Franchise Agreement Service Level Commitment:

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A3 LONDON PADDINGTON ^ BRISTOL TEMPLE MEADS ^ WESTON-SUPER-MARE.
<snip>
 3 Limited Stops
  <snip>
   3.13 Penzance
      (a) On Mondays to Fridays and Saturdays, one service from London
            Paddington, arriving in Penzance before 1330, shall call.
      (b) On Mondays to Fridays and Saturdays, two services to London
            Paddington shall call, one of which shall depart Penzance after 1715.
      (c) On Sundays, one service from London Paddington arriving in
           Penzance before 1415 shall call.

So a service after 1715 from PNZ-PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) is indeed a franchise commitment.
14008  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: New Off Peak Ticket Restriction Oxford Reading Cross Country? on: September 19, 2010, 09:22:33
I'll withdraw my concession. Well spotted TJ.

For Section 12 to apply the operators who do allow GroupSave need to produce notices and publications that say GroupSave is not valid on CrossCountry.

I'm yet to find any notices or publications from FGW (First Great Western) that say you cannot travel with CrossCountry.

So section 12 does cover FGW for the times when they withdraw GroupSave (sporting events, Galstonbury etc), but does not cover CrossCountry's blanket ban.
14009  Journey by Journey / Wales local journeys / Re: Cardiff Station Announcements on: September 19, 2010, 08:56:59
After a bit of research, including the Welsh Wikipedia (Wicipedia) I've discovered that 'popty ping' is Welsh slang for microwave oven. The actual translation is 'popty microdon'.

Popty being the Welsh for oven.
14010  Journey by Journey / London to South Wales / Re: 'Station revamp ahead of Ryder Cup' at Newport on: September 19, 2010, 08:26:25
In that case, may I suggest refraining from posting such (lack of) information. It serves no purpose whatsoever if people post about things they 'know' but are unable to share.

A possible alternative view about the redevelopment of Newport Station and any problems it has caused, from that provided by Network Rail and the Welsh Assembly would be interesting to hear. However any such view needs to be a bit more than just a dismissive "Yeah, yeah!!!"

I appreciate that rail staff may need to be careful about what they say on a public forum, but merely sounding off about something ("One big **** up from start to finish") without explaining why you hold that view is pointless and does nothing to further the debate.

So, I remain of the opinion that an excellent job has been done with the redevelopment. Yes, it was a little late but still within plenty of time for it's first real test, the 2010 Ryder Cup.

Now, if only we had the modern trains to go with the modern building, as pictured......



...... but that's another story. Smiley


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