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1  Sideshoots - associated subjects / The Lighter Side / Re: Does anyone know of a bus station that they actually like? on: June 13, 2019, 08:37:03 pm
St ives on a sunny day has to be the most scenic
2  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: State of the Nation - transport, Cornwall on: June 13, 2019, 05:59:11 pm
I donít know what the sales of Ride Cornwall were like before or after price rise, but the only Ride Cornwall tickets Iíve ever seen was a member of this forum who makes contact to find out my duty and pop and say Hi when heís about on such a ticket. Maybe 3-4 times Iíve seen him present me with a Ride Cornwall. He plans visiting me into his day so distorts my Ride Cornwall ticket holder figures I take!
3  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: State of the Nation - transport, Cornwall on: June 13, 2019, 07:54:16 am
The Ride Cornwall time restriction has also been removed from the bus element.

Looking back through Wayback Machine, there were no time restrictions on buses early this decade. Searched back to 2011.

The restriction was applicable until this price increase. On First Ticketer machines it was greyed out and couldnít be sold before 9.

A restriction on selling them? What if one is presented before 0900 after being purchased from a station, TVM, or online?

Not valid as per the T&Cs, which have now been amended
4  All across the Great Western territory / Introductions and chat / Re: Chatting with strangers on your journey to work on: June 12, 2019, 09:42:46 pm
I know of several seniors who catch the bus with their passes, and just yap to whoever sits near them. Itís almost like a social service for lonely elderly as well as a bus
5  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: State of the Nation - transport, Cornwall on: June 12, 2019, 07:01:23 pm
The Ride Cornwall time restriction has also been removed from the bus element.

Looking back through Wayback Machine, there were no time restrictions on buses early this decade. Searched back to 2011.

The restriction was applicable until this price increase. On First Ticketer machines it was greyed out and couldnít be sold before 9.
6  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: State of the Nation - transport, Cornwall on: June 12, 2019, 05:57:55 pm
The Ride Cornwall time restriction has also been removed from the bus element.
7  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: GWR bans surfboards from IET services on: May 28, 2019, 08:40:34 am
I imagine most staff will try and accommodate or turn a blind eye despite policy if it avoids conflict.
8  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: State of the Nation - transport, Cornwall on: May 26, 2019, 08:30:48 am
Reality is itís too cheap! £13 for unlimited rail, First bus and Plymouth city bus services.

And Now............drum roll............

Buy from:
...train station ticket offices
...train managers/conductors
...bus drivers

The Ride Cornwall pass costs:
£18 for adults

Am I reading that the pass is re-instated at the last minute, at a significantly higher price, or am I comparing a camel with a grapefruit?

Noting it reads as if no online sales, no sales from TVMs, no phone in to buy  ... person to person purchase only?

£13 to £18. Itís only seen 1 small price rise in 10 years I think, and consensus is it was under priced.
Itís always been person to person purchase only.
All partners were pushing for price rise, DfT/RDG apparently approved the price rise late this week, presumably a withdrawal threat worked. The price rise has apparently been waiting for approval for considerable time.
I understand GWR are introducing a Cornwall rail only rover at £12.50 (possibly today, a ticket office staff contact said they had a email on Friday concerning it)
9  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: Dartmouth Park and Ride on: May 25, 2019, 01:40:53 pm
Service 3 is a through to Plymouth, via Kingsbridge. Many long routes now seem to be split but actually run through - does anyone know why?

To maintain them as local services - ensuring (as I understand it) that they are not subject to long distance tachograph rules for heavy vehicles that were designed for goods vehicles but drafted such that they include bus journeys over a certain length. My understanding is that whilst safety with monitoring driver's hours with a tachograph is sensible, extension to bus services such as Plymouth to Dartmouth would be silly - and this mechanism (which you correctly say is widespread) keeps the services legal and sensible.

To add to Grahame, a local service route can be a maximum of 50km before a tacho is required.
Operators split routes but run the vehicle through guaranteeing a through service, normally a 5 min stop at the changeover point.
Under domestic rules the full Dartmouth to Plymouth route is well under maximum driving time without a break. They may also change drivers mid route on some routes planned like this.
In Cornwall Truro to Bude sees on some services driver changes at either Summercourt or Wadebridge.
10  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: State of the Nation - transport, Cornwall on: May 21, 2019, 08:55:13 pm
Reality is itís too cheap! £13 for unlimited rail, First bus and Plymouth city bus services.
Compared to individual fares;

Train Plymouth to Penzance return is I believe £11.10

First Bus Truro to St Ives is £9 return, Padstow to Newquay again £9 return, Truro to Newquay £7.50 return.

Plymouth city bus Liskeard to waderbridge return is between £9 and £10.... strangely PCB all zone day rider is only £8 (their zones havenít been updated since they started cornwall services and they now have some anomalies in their fares, Bude, Padstow, wadebridge)

£13 split between GWR, XC, First Kernow And Plymouth citybus doesnít leave a lot each to allow unlimited travel. All parties have agreed the new price but the railway have failed to implement it on their systems
11  All across the Great Western territory / Your rights and redress / Re: Giving up seat for an "old bird" on: May 18, 2019, 08:55:15 am

 Remember catching an 'off-peak' bus from Teignmouth to Dawlish a few years back.
 Full with 'mature customers', I was quite happy to stand.
 The Driver casually remarked, ''You're the only one on the bus that's bought a ticket''.

Sounds about right.
12  Journey by Journey / Plymouth and Cornwall / Re: GWR bans surfboards from IET services on: May 13, 2019, 12:09:04 pm
Newquay surfboard hire companies I imagine are rubbing their hands!
13  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: "Travelling by train is up to 13 times more expensive than driving" on: May 12, 2019, 06:41:30 am
I drove to Weston super mare and back last Saturday with my children.

They must have been very naughty then to deserve that.
Haha

Just left the car with a friend for flying from Bristol airport. Didnít visit anywhere in the town.
14  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: "Travelling by train is up to 13 times more expensive than driving" on: May 11, 2019, 04:09:50 pm
I drove to Weston super mare and back last Saturday with my children. My 2.0 diesel car averaged 67.2mpg on this round trip. I forget the distance but Iíd guess around 200 miles round trip... but itís not material such is the astronomical train price, 1 adult 2 children.
I could have got 20 gallons of diesel (or maybe more) for the train fare, enough to travel over 1000miles!
15  All across the Great Western territory / Your rights and redress / Re: Giving up seat for an "old bird" on: May 09, 2019, 08:41:01 pm
I donít think my boss would like me giving my seat up on the bus  Grin  Roll Eyes
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