Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 15:35 29 Mar 2024
* Delays at Dover as millions begin Easter getaway
* A view from inside ship that hit Baltimore bridge
- Attempted murder charge after man stabbed on train
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 02/06/24 - Summer Timetable starts
17/08/24 - Bus to Imber
27/09/25 - 200 years of passenger trains

On this day
29th Mar (1913)
Foundation of National Union or Railwaymen (*)

Train RunningCancelled
15:14 Swindon to Westbury
15:22 Newbury to Bedwyn
15:28 Weston-Super-Mare to London Paddington
15:50 Bedwyn to Newbury
15:54 Cardiff Central to London Paddington
16:15 Newbury to Bedwyn
16:23 Westbury to Swindon
16:55 Bedwyn to Newbury
17:24 Newbury to Bedwyn
17:29 Bristol Temple Meads to London Paddington
17:36 Swindon to Westbury
18:04 Bedwyn to Newbury
18:26 Newbury to Bedwyn
18:37 Westbury to Swindon
18:55 Bedwyn to Newbury
19:02 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads
19:24 Newbury to Bedwyn
19:55 Bedwyn to Newbury
20:13 Swindon to Westbury
20:49 Newbury to Bedwyn
21:16 Westbury to Swindon
21:16 Bedwyn to Newbury
21:53 Newbury to Bedwyn
22:25 Bedwyn to Newbury
22:30 Swindon to Westbury
22:47 Newbury to Bedwyn
Short Run
13:10 Gloucester to Weymouth
13:42 Exeter St Davids to London Paddington
13:55 Paignton to London Paddington
14:36 London Paddington to Paignton
15:28 London Paddington to Weston-Super-Mare
15:42 Exeter St Davids to London Paddington
16:35 London Paddington to Plymouth
16:50 Plymouth to London Paddington
17:03 London Paddington to Penzance
17:36 London Paddington to Plymouth
18:03 London Paddington to Penzance
18:29 Weston-Super-Mare to London Paddington
18:36 London Paddington to Plymouth
19:04 Paignton to London Paddington
20:03 London Paddington to Plymouth
21:04 London Paddington to Plymouth
23:17 Bedwyn to Reading
Delayed
10:04 London Paddington to Penzance
10:20 Penzance to London Paddington
12:03 London Paddington to Penzance
12:15 Penzance to London Paddington
13:03 London Paddington to Plymouth
13:15 Plymouth to London Paddington
13:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern
14:03 London Paddington to Penzance
14:15 Penzance to London Paddington
15:03 London Paddington to Penzance
15:15 Plymouth to London Paddington
16:03 London Paddington to Penzance
16:15 Penzance to London Paddington
etc
PollsOpen and recent polls
Closed 2024-03-25 Easter Escape - to where?
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
March 29, 2024, 15:36:43 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[211] 2024 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury...
[66] Infrastructure problems in Thames Valley causing disruption el...
[49] Who needs a travel agent these days?
[36] Travel for free on the m2 metrobus - Bristol - 4,5,6 April 202...
[28] would you like your own LIVE train station departure board?
[26] West Wiltshire Bus Changes April 2024
 
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: 1 ... 67 68 [69] 70 71 ... 78
  Print  
Author Topic: Intercity Express Programme (IEP) - ongoing discussion  (Read 743862 times)
stuving
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 7156


View Profile
« Reply #1020 on: July 21, 2017, 20:31:03 »

Did anyone spot this in yesterday's BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) item about the DfT» (Department for Transport - about)'s electrification (really HLOS (High Level Output Specification)) announcements?

Quote
A Great Western Railway spokesman welcomed the decision to upgrade the power of the trains in diesel mode, saying: "In the context of today's announcement, this offers the best solution to protecting the kind of faster journey times, frequency and capacity benefits customers have been looking for."

More to the point, if that means what it seems to - universal unmuzling - is it available from a direct source? I can't find it in anything the DfT have released.
Logged
IndustryInsider
Data Manager
Hero Member
******
Posts: 10096


View Profile
« Reply #1021 on: July 21, 2017, 20:44:44 »

Let's hope so, even if it is only temporarily until Cardiff is wired.  It really will provide an easy negative headline field day otherwise.
Logged

To view my GWML (Great Western Main Line) Electrification cab video 'before and after' video comparison, as well as other videos of the new layout at Reading and 'before and after' comparisons of the Cotswold Line Redoubling scheme, see: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/IndustryInsider/
John R
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 4416


View Profile
« Reply #1022 on: July 21, 2017, 20:54:52 »

Wonder who is paying the additional charges that will be levied. And whether the passenger will end up picking up the bill.
Logged
stuving
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 7156


View Profile
« Reply #1023 on: July 21, 2017, 21:29:02 »

Last December, Philip Rutnam told parliament (the PAC) that DfT» (Department for Transport - about) was paying for all the costs of adding (more) engines to the 801s, whether as a capital sum or annual charge. That should mean that the cost to GWR (Great Western Railway) stays as it previously would have been. Logically any adjustment for making silk 802s out of sows' 800s would be the same, wouldn't it?
Logged
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 40692



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #1024 on: July 21, 2017, 21:52:18 »

More to the point, if that means what it seems to - universal unmuzling - is it available from a direct source? I can't find it in anything the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) have released.

What the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) have understood from GWR (Great Western Railway) has been confirmed to me by GWR as what they're working to.  I haven't read anything in a  direct DfT release either - but does everything appear in an immediate release? - would we expect to be told?

Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Acting Chair of Melksham Rail User Group, Option 24/7 Melksham Rep
ChrisB
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 12334


View Profile Email
« Reply #1025 on: July 22, 2017, 11:52:18 »

GWR (Great Western Railway) would definitely expect to be told. We know from the Community conference chat that they were asking for permanent unmuzzling as the only way to at least maintain the current timetable & were hopeful as the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) wouldn't want to be seen in providing new trains that could only operate a slower timetable.

If that quote is correct, seems as though they got their wish. Hey ho though, yet another iteration of the Dec18 timetable required.....

GWR weren't going to pay a penny more though, so DfT/taxpayer will.
Logged
JayMac
Data Manager
Hero Member
******
Posts: 18897



View Profile
« Reply #1026 on: July 22, 2017, 13:09:30 »

Yes, GWR (Great Western Railway) will want to keep costs in check, having shortsightedly relied on HMG/NR» (Network Rail - home page) to deliver what was promised.

That shortsightedness led them to run the 'Building a Greater West' advertising campaign that promised jam tomorrow.

GWR should ask HMG for the money back they wasted on that campaign.
Logged

"Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for the rest of the day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

- Sir Terry Pratchett.
TaplowGreen
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 7751



View Profile
« Reply #1027 on: July 22, 2017, 16:40:20 »

Yes, GWR (Great Western Railway) will want to keep costs in check, having shortsightedly relied on HMG/NR» (Network Rail - home page) to deliver what was promised.

That shortsightedness led them to run the 'Building a Greater West' advertising campaign that promised jam tomorrow.

GWR should ask HMG for the money back they wasted on that campaign.

..............and I hope HMG tell them where they can stick that request - GWR hung on the coattails of NR's project and disingenuously portrayed themselves as "Building a Greater West", whereas in reality the work was nearly all being done by NR and almost all the money/investment was coming from the taxpayer - now they will no doubt equally quickly rush to disassociate themselves from it.

I believe the saying is "hoisted by their own petard"
Logged
IndustryInsider
Data Manager
Hero Member
******
Posts: 10096


View Profile
« Reply #1028 on: July 22, 2017, 18:25:41 »

I very much doubt they'll disassociate themselves with it now that all of the improvements are about to come on stream, albeit delayed and in some cases reduced in scope.
Logged

To view my GWML (Great Western Main Line) Electrification cab video 'before and after' video comparison, as well as other videos of the new layout at Reading and 'before and after' comparisons of the Cotswold Line Redoubling scheme, see: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/IndustryInsider/
1st fan
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 402


View Profile
« Reply #1029 on: July 23, 2017, 13:45:40 »

If everyone gets a seat out of Paddington regularly they *might*.....
I think I have more chance of winning the lottery.
Logged
IndustryInsider
Data Manager
Hero Member
******
Posts: 10096


View Profile
« Reply #1030 on: July 25, 2017, 12:53:23 »

Here's some footage of a change from diesel to electric of a 10 car formation at Maidenhead.  I make it five seconds from the pantograph raising to the train taking power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpI6c2gO1Dk&feature=youtu.be
Logged

To view my GWML (Great Western Main Line) Electrification cab video 'before and after' video comparison, as well as other videos of the new layout at Reading and 'before and after' comparisons of the Cotswold Line Redoubling scheme, see: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/IndustryInsider/
paul7575
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 5316


View Profile
« Reply #1031 on: July 25, 2017, 13:51:38 »

Here's some footage of a change from diesel to electric of a 10 car formation at Maidenhead.  I make it five seconds from the pantograph raising to the train taking power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpI6c2gO1Dk&feature=youtu.be

The overall "wheels stopped time" also shows very well that wherever the calling pattern lends itself to power changeover during a station call, then the changeover itself should never normally be a critical aspect of the overall dwell time...

Paul
Logged
stuving
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 7156


View Profile
« Reply #1032 on: July 25, 2017, 14:08:51 »

Here's some footage of a change from diesel to electric of a 10 car formation at Maidenhead.  I make it five seconds from the pantograph raising to the train taking power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpI6c2gO1Dk&feature=youtu.be

I had not twigged, until seeing that, that these units have a 25kV link (bus) along the roof. I guess that's because people rarely take pictures side-on.

At least that should save a few tons of dead weight, even if it does always look a bit scary on our small trains.
Logged
ChrisB
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 12334


View Profile Email
« Reply #1033 on: July 25, 2017, 18:02:22 »

During the wires down episode testerday, viewed from the 1330 to BRI» (Bristol Temple Meads - next trains), I saw a Connect service heading to PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) pulled by a DRS (Direct Rail Services Ltd) class 86....
Logged
Adelante_CCT
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 1314



View Profile
« Reply #1034 on: July 26, 2017, 10:24:48 »

DRS (Direct Rail Services Ltd) class 86? Should that not be 66 or 68?
Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: 1 ... 67 68 [69] 70 71 ... 78
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link to report). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page