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Author Topic: Intercity Express Programme (IEP) - ongoing discussion  (Read 743850 times)
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« Reply #570 on: April 07, 2015, 18:18:31 »

......can I reserve one of the 30 spares?  Grin
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« Reply #571 on: April 07, 2015, 22:20:09 »

......can I reserve one of the 30 spares?  Grin

Only if I can have one as well !
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #572 on: April 07, 2015, 22:26:48 »

Member 'broadgage' would prefer his seat to have a table in front of it, too ...  Tongue Roll Eyes Wink
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« Reply #573 on: April 08, 2015, 17:45:53 »

Member 'broadgage' would prefer his seat to have a table in front of it, too ...  Tongue Roll Eyes Wink

Yes please, a table seat, and near the buffet counter also Smiley
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #574 on: April 08, 2015, 18:45:11 »

Discussion on the potential for industrial action over the introduction of IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project.) sets has been given its own topic:

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=15598.0
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« Reply #575 on: July 12, 2015, 18:27:54 »

Not a cause for regoicing at all in my view.
Mainline services to be downgraded to DMUs (Diesel Multiple Unit), even if these can also use electric power.
I stand by my earlier remarks about the likleyhood of bus style seating layout, reduced legroom, minimal catering, and shorter trains.
Voyager mark 2 Cry

3 years ago almost to the day, I wrote that.
Largely (over half) bus seats now confirmed.
Legroom, yet to be seen but unlikely to be impressive.
Minimal catering, now confirmed as only a trolley for steerage.
Shorter trains, now confirmed that most of the new DMUs are to be half length.

First class now confirmed as being downgraded to just 36 seats.

Isn't progress wonderful !
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #576 on: July 12, 2015, 19:09:37 »

No confirmation of numbers of DMUs (Diesel Multiple Unit)....subject to the review
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« Reply #577 on: July 13, 2015, 11:39:14 »

'Bus seats'

'Steerage'

Quite irritating by now...

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« Reply #578 on: July 13, 2015, 11:46:55 »

Yes, I think the needle has got stuck....especially when the bus seats I know are effectively two-person benches, not the individual seats that you do get on trains, so inaccurate description, methinks.
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« Reply #579 on: July 13, 2015, 13:42:36 »

All right then, over half of the seating now confirmed to be uni-directional and not facing across tables.
Catering now confirmed to be only a trolley in standard class.

My negative forecasts regarding the new trains made over 3 years ago have regrettably been found to be substantially correct, despite the many members of these forums who felt that I was being unduly negative.



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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #580 on: July 13, 2015, 13:55:03 »

Women actually *like* uni-directional seats. They feel safer, and no playing footsie under tables.
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« Reply #581 on: July 13, 2015, 15:25:27 »

Sauce?

Sorry, I meant, Source?
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« Reply #582 on: July 13, 2015, 15:30:05 »

Passenger Focus - but can't remember exactly when. Within the last couple of years.
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« Reply #583 on: July 13, 2015, 15:32:49 »

I'm not a woman and I prefer them  Wink

I used to despair when I had reserved a seat on busy services and find on getting on that the system has booked me into a foursome - which shows they can't be all that popular or the seating reservation system is lacking. Especially as nearly always the three people already there have spread themselves out over the whole space and look at me resentfully for disturbing their peace and leg room. Indeed these days I will check on the seating chart and book on a different service instead rather than this.

I'd vote for no increase on tables of four please  Grin
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« Reply #584 on: July 14, 2015, 09:30:57 »

I'm not a woman and I prefer them  Wink

I used to despair when I had reserved a seat on busy services and find on getting on that the system has booked me into a foursome - which shows they can't be all that popular or the seating reservation system is lacking. Especially as nearly always the three people already there have spread themselves out over the whole space and look at me resentfully for disturbing their peace and leg room. Indeed these days I will check on the seating chart and book on a different service instead rather than this.

I'd vote for no increase on tables of four please  Grin

I guess some will say that's the price you pay for being a peasant who travels in "steerage"  Cheesy
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