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« Reply #765 on: July 02, 2016, 14:20:49 »

Plusher is by no means always more comfortable, especially over long periods.
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« Reply #766 on: July 03, 2016, 08:09:32 »

If the seats are based on the 395 seats they are comfortable enough.  Although the journey St Pancras to Ashford is only 45 mins there are longer journeys to Ramsgate etc which 90 mins plus I have never found the 395 seats uncomfortable 
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« Reply #767 on: July 03, 2016, 08:53:25 »

But a 5-hour trip to PNZ may need something better, I feel. Here's hoping
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« Reply #768 on: July 18, 2016, 13:35:42 »

First test trains ran on Saturday & Sunday morning.

Railway Gazette has this - including some video on the link above

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UK (United Kingdom): The first testing of an electric trainset between Reading and Didcot as part of the Great Western electrification programme was undertaken on the mornings of July 16 and 17, in what infrastructure manager Network Rail said was ‘a major milestone for the electrification project’.

Having arrived from its London depot, the Hitachi Class 800 Intercity Express Train made two test runs from Reading to Didcot at up to 200 km/h to test the newly installed 25 kV 50 Hz overhead electrification equipment. The testing was managed by Network Rail, which is currently electrifying the routes between London Paddington and Bristol, Cardiff, Oxford and Newbury. The Reading – Didcot section has been completed first to serve as a testing ground for the power systems and the trainsets.

‘This is a great step forward, and I’d like to pay tribute to the team who have worked very hard to make this happen’, said Mark Langman, Route Managing Director for Network Rail Western. ‘This is the future of rail being built before our eyes and it’s a very exciting time to be involved in this project.  This weekend we’ve come a big step closer to providing faster, quieter, and more efficient services to the people of the region who depend on railways.’

Electric passenger services are now scheduled to begin ‘from 2019’.

Rail Technology Magazine has this - spot the typo

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Network Rail carried out two test runs of a new Class 800 Intercity Express train over the weekend on the recently energised section of the route from Reading to Didcot.

During a series of exercises, designed to test the overhead electric power system, the Class 800 was driven from Reading to Didcot on Saturday and Sunday morning.

Mark Langman, route managing director for Network Rail Western, said: “This is a great step forward, and I’d like to pay tribute to the team who have worked very hard to make this happen.”

He added that over the weekend the team have “come a big step closer to providing faster, quieter, and more efficient services” to the people of the region who depend on railways.

Testing will now continue as construction proceeds on the Greater West programme, with public services scheduled to begin from 2019.

In the latest edition of RTM ((and RTFM) Read The Manual!), we talked to Andy Haynes, project director, West of England, the Greater West Programme, who discussed the complexity of getting the Reading to Didcot section ready for electrification. He also talked about how piling rates have increased using HOPS and installing Furrer+Frey’s new Series 1 OLE (Overhead Line Equipment, more often "OHLE") system.

During our interview with Haynes, he suggested that the delayed programme, which has also seen its costs balloon, is getting back on track.

However, the ORR» (Office of Rail and Road formerly Office of Rail Regulation - about) recently warned that delivery of Network Rail’s obligations as set out in the new Enhancement Deliver Plan (EDP) are not without risk, particularly in relation to GWML (Great Western Main Line) electrification.

The regulator said the key measure will be whether Network Rail is able to test and commission the ‘Series 1’ overhead line system between Tilehurst and Didcot by 20 September. This will provide evidence as to whether Network Rail will be able to successfully complete electrification to Wootton Bassett by December 2017.

Earlier this month, one of Great Western Railway’s Class 800 trains, one of a fleet of 57 designed and built by Hitachi, made its maiden voyage in a special trip from London to Paddington to mark 175 years since the opening of the GWML.
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« Reply #769 on: August 03, 2016, 10:43:35 »

An announcement this morning confirms 7 more trains to bring the total fleet up to a total of 93,  comprised of 57 IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project.), 29 West Country extras, and now these that presumably cope with the slightly decreased number of EMUs (Electric Multiple Unit) following the 387/365 changes made recently:

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UK (United Kingdom): Franchised passenger operator Great Western Railway and leasing company Eversholt Rail confirmed an order for an additional seven electro-diesel trainsets from Hitachi Rail Europe on August 3.

The new trainsets will be built at Hitachi Rail Italy’s Pistoia plant. They are in addition to the 57 trainsets which Hitachi is providing for GWR (Great Western Railway) from 2017 under the government’s Intercity Express Programme, and GWR’s separately-financed order for a further 29 trainsets to enter service in 2018.

‘They give us greater flexibility in our fleet to deliver faster, more frequent, services and additional seats for customers, particularly while Network Rail completes the modernisation of the Great Western Main Line’, said GWR Managing Director Mark Hopwood.

Hitachi Rail Europe Managing Director Karen Boswell said Hitachi was ‘pleased GWR and Eversholt Rail Group have exercised one of the options they have with us to increase their fleet. This further strengthens our working relationship with two major customers.’

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« Reply #770 on: August 03, 2016, 11:09:34 »

Sounds as those are extra AT300s as they're being built in Italy along with the other 29 of these. So 36 AT300s with larger fuel tanks & higher-output engines.
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« Reply #771 on: August 03, 2016, 11:29:15 »

Bigger fuel tanks and higher rated engines is not what makes the train an AT300,  all trains ordered under the IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project.) are part of the AT300 family.   So far they come in four versions, known in the UK (United Kingdom) as classes 395, 800, 801, and 802.

http://www.hitachirail-eu.com/at-300-high-speed_47.html

However I don't think that it is logically correct to assume this order will necessarily be the same spec as an 802.

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« Reply #772 on: August 03, 2016, 11:36:09 »

The electric class is now presumably dead in the water at GWR (Great Western Railway) as they are all now specified electro-diesel.

So only two classes with GWR - 801 & 802. (the 800 was the electric? I can't remember)

Logic does say they'll be 802s, otherwise they'd be added to the build at Newton Aycliffe, surely?
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« Reply #773 on: August 03, 2016, 11:40:47 »

The electric class is now presumably dead in the water at GWR (Great Western Railway) as they are all now specified electro-diesel.

So only two classes with GWR - 801 & 802. (the 800 was the electric? I can't remember)

Logic does say they'll be 802s, otherwise they'd be added to the build at Newton Aycliffe, surely?

Why? The difference between 802 and (bi-mode) 800 is pretty trivial, much less than between 800 and (electric) 801. The choice of plant was based on capacity, surely.
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« Reply #774 on: August 03, 2016, 11:47:58 »

The 800 engine has had its power reduced, presumably in order to preserve fuel. The 802 hasn't, and has larger fuel tanks, and is the one being constructed in Italy. Surely they won't change the Italian set-up (even by a small amount) if these extra 7 are to be 800s?
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« Reply #775 on: August 03, 2016, 12:43:09 »

AIUI (as I understand it) the power reduction or increase (depending on viewpoint) is only a software function.   That leaves the fuel tank size, and I'd be surprised if fitting one or other was of much significance once the design has been properly documented.

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« Reply #776 on: August 03, 2016, 15:31:49 »

Interesting - I'm hearing these extra 7 units are going to be 9car sets.....so looks like you're right, Paul.
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« Reply #777 on: August 03, 2016, 17:59:11 »

Definitely a follow on of the AT300 order - some reports at the time mentioned an option for additional ones although I get the impression they're being vague because they won't necessarily be used for WoE. All 9 car I hear - assume with the bigger power output and fuel tanks
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« Reply #778 on: August 03, 2016, 19:19:00 »

So the 802s will be mixture of 5car & 9car units
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« Reply #779 on: August 03, 2016, 19:50:21 »

If they are to replace 387s then I would have thought they were for the Oxford services where 9 car would be needed. 
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